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Person Who Knows 3 Languages Puts Rude American In His Place: “The Only Language You Know”
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Person Who Knows 3 Languages Puts Rude American In His Place: “The Only Language You Know”

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Mocking someone for mispronuncing a word is a jerk move no matter the circumstances; unless, maybe, it’s a good friend and you do it in a gentle teasing kind of way. But ridiculing someone’s pronunciation when it’s their second, third, or Xth language, especially when you’re monolingual yourself, is definitely not right.

Yet that’s exactly what happened to this redditor. Being trilingual himself, the OP was mocked by his American friend for the way he pronounced a word in English. But the mocking didn’t last long, after the redditor clapped back at said friend.

Scroll down to find the full story below, where you will also find Bored Panda’s interview with Dr. Viorica Marian, Professor of Communication Sciences and Disorders at Northwestern University and author of best-selling book The Power of Language: How the Codes We Use to Think, Speak, and Live Transform Our Minds.

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    Learning a foreign language is not always easy. In some instances, it can actually be very, very difficult. (I am certain that having to learn numbers in French or verb conjugation in Lithuanian, just to name a couple of examples, have pushed many learners to the brink of tears.) Be that as it may, a number of people manage to master a second, a third, a fourth language and sometimes even more.

    The Eurobarometer survey carried out in 2023 found that in Europe, for instance, most people have positive attitudes towards multilingualism and value language diversity; nine-in-ten of them believe that everyone should speak at least one other language than their mother tongue. In most cases, that one other language is English, which close to half of Europeans (47%, to be exact) have mastered to some extent, making it the most popular foreign language in the region.

    According to the survey, the youth—people between ages 15 and 24—seem to be especially motivated or interested in learning foreign languages. Out of them, roughly four-in-five are able to carry out a conversation in a language that they are not native to (marking a 5% increase since 2012). Out of Europeans of all ages that are proficient in a foreign language, close to a third reportedly use it on a daily basis.

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    Learning or practicing a foreign language is also good exercise for the brain. “Being bilingual and multilingual has multiple benefits for the brain, for aging, and for cognitive, social, and economic outcomes,” says Northwestern University professor and author of The Power of Language: How the Codes We Use to Think, Speak, and Live Transform Our Minds, Dr. Viorica Marian.

    “Knowing multiple languages is like a superpower that helps delay the onset of Alzheimer’s and dementia, improves cognitive control, benefits metalinguistic and metacognitive skills, and boosts creativity, in addition to immediately noticeable benefits like being able to communicate with people who speak other languages, facilitate travel, and making one eligible for jobs in which knowing a specific language is required.”

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    English is the most commonly spoken language in the world

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    The US, too, is home to millions of bilingual and multilingual people. Though English is the official language, according to the United States Census Bureau (as of 2019), close to 68 million people in the US spoke a language other than English at home. The most frequently spoken languages, other than English, were Spanish or Spanish Creole, Chinese, Tagalog, Vietnamese, and Arabic respectively.

    According to Statista’s 2023 data, Spanish and Chinese were among the most common languages not only in the US, but in the entire world as well. Taking into consideration all of the speakers (not only those to whom it is a foreign language), English is the most common one worldwide, followed by Chinese (Mandarin), Hindi, Spanish, French, and Arabic respectively.

    Because of his background and his interest in the English language, the OP was fluent in three of the five most commonly spoken languages in the world, while his friend, Max, spoke one. That was one of the reasons why said friend mocking his pronunciation made the redditor snap back at him, which some netizens believed to be too strong of a reaction. Many, however, agreed that Max was being a jerk to the OP, too. Both sides shared their thoughts in the comments.

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    Many netizens believed that Max was in the wrong for mocking his friend

    Some, however, thought that the OP was a jerk to some extent, too

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    CanadianDimes
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially the one that said "it seemed like he was just having fun at your expense"! Uh, yeah, that's the actual problem - it was at OP's expense!

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    Trillian
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, he was being mean and tried to cover it up as a joke when called out.

    Rachel Pelz
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definition of joke or prank: only if the other person (who is suject of joke/prank) considers it funny as well. Period.

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    Chips&FriedRice
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I joke about your pronunciation, you can joke about my lack of languages. it's fair game, I started it, I should be prepared for consequences. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tho the guy (Max) seems like he was being an a*s about it and it wasn't actually said in a fun, joking way, and was used to mock them. He definitely deserved that comeback lol

    Pernille
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I bet all the ytas are people who only speaks English. English speakers can be really annoying with their unsolicited language corrections, I'll as, if I need your help, Jim! The french sometimes corrects too, but years ago it occurred to me that I tend to use an upwards infliction when saying something I'm not sure is correct, and thus ask a question instead.

    arthbach
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have a guy who is living and studying in Paris without being able to speak French. He is using a French person as a translator as he could not function in the country without one. Then he berates the person for being unable to pronounce a word correctly, and berates them again for 'not having a sense of humour'. Yeah, as I said, he is *using* the 'friend', and if he doesn't sort himself out soon, he isn't going to have a friend, nor a translator.

    M4tt
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm amazed that I had to read this fast down before someone finally pointed out that the American had gone to Paris, to study at Le Sorbonne, and was unwilling (or unable) to speak French.

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    Jessica SpeLangm
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have said to Max "You don't like how I pronounce some English words? Fine. You figure out how to communicate in French yourself. I'm out of here." Then I would have walked away.

    The Big Bad
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once had it the other way around. I'm Dutch and dutch is known to be a pretty hard language to really master perfectly (even for dutchies!). I met this guy at a party and he told me he got here only a year ago. I didn't even hear an accent and complimented him on his great dutch. Another guy heard me and told me that it was clearly racism that I gave this guy this compliment. Because "I should not find it amazing that this guy learned Dutch so quickly"? I've never heard anyone speak Dutch so well only after one year... White, black, brown, it's just a hard language.

    Sue User
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Dutch teacher took us to a bar. As lomg as we spoke Dutch, she paid. I left hoarse but drunk. ETA: learned Dutch ASAP after going to butcher, trying to buy beef ( only thing that cane to mind was boeuf ) , trying to moo and going home with paardenvlees. Turns out cows dont " moo " in Dutch.

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    veryvenasaur
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been trying to learn French for 6 years and last summer I finally got to go to France. I'd say my French is decent but my main problem is I have a stutter that gets really bad when I'm nervous and also makes pronouncing foreign and even certain non foreign words. Basically I went into a little bakery and tried to order an item but ended up panicking and not being able to stammer out the words. The other customer in the store started laughing but the wonderful woman behind the counter just turned and slowly and clearly said, "Vous voulez un [item name I can't spell with a gun to my head]" and I managed to say "Oui, sil vous plaît" and she smiled at me and said "Vous parlez bonne" then she switched to English and said, "Languages are hard keep trying." I don't know who you are random woman but you made my day and I still think of you sometimes. ----------- Translations "do you want item?" "yes please" "you speak well"

    Lady Lava
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's really sweet and so much more helpful than just laughing at someone who tries their best.

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    Blma1025
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The YTA crowd are probably also rude americans. Seriously, to only know one language nowadays is embarrassing.

    GalPalAl
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the yta comments must have been written by Americans. We are the only country where people who behave like that and troll you for being sensitive, and misrepresent those of us who don't do this. Shameful

    Panda McPandaface
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm an Englishman that spent some years in Spain and did my best to learn the language. I often made mistakes but because people knew I was making the effort I rarely got laughed at and if I did it was because I had made an error that in itself was funny - so I laughed too (eg. estoy caliente/tengo calor & pollo/polla). Once you have really tried to learn a second, third or more language then laughing at someone's efforts is no longer a reaction, you just want to help someone improve. It's not just Americans, the British too are convinced that thier language is the only one worth speaking (despite it only being the third most spoken language on the planet). I have never been brilliant at Spanish, but I am ashamed of most of my fellow Brits that just think if they speak louder then that will make them understood. There is one 'YTA' comment that really makes my blood boil, such blind arrogance! I'm glad that a second language was compulsory at school when I went.

    Roland Nijveld
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's only the 3rd language if you only count native speakers. In total English is number 1

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    Robert T
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An American criticising any pronunciation in English is laughable, but especially so for someone speaking it as a second or third language. It's to-mar-to FFS.

    Julia Cargile
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    America is getting more illiterate by the day so don't worry about mis-pronouncing words.

    Traveling Lady Railfan
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have many legally deaf/hearing impaired friends. They are voracious readers, so they have an incredible vocabulary and they use the words correctly, but because of their hearing disability, they don't always know how to say the word. Very infrequently in a conversation. Maybe one word out of a thousand. But I would never correct them, they are all in their 60s 70s and 80s, it's not like they're six seven or eight years old and just learning the language and a correction at this point could be beneficial. Someone who knows more languages than you do is already doing a lot better than you, you shouldn't be trying to correct them unless of course they ask you to ("if I'm saying a word wrong, let me know"). This person making fun of his trilingual friend mispronouncing a weird English word, is this rude and cruel. It's one thing to point out that they said it wrong it's another thing to keep pointing it out

    Andy Frobig
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why someone would spend a year at the Sorbonne and not bother to learn French. Max sounds like the kind of guy upon whom time abroad is wasted. OP is NTA

    BrownEyedPanda
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. I feel that if you spend at least three months in a foreign land, you should at least learn the basics of the local language. If you are having difficulty, it won't kill you to ask for help with learning. But mocking someone for accidentally mispronouncing words shows that you have no class.

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    Ciaran McK
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Americans being americans. The most condescending people on earth bar none

    Christian Golden
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Always, always, always encourage anyone who's making an effort to communicate. Especially when you're the fish out of water. I had the shoe on the other foot once, when a colleague - a native Spanish speaker living in the US - publicly "corrected" my double L pronunciation in a room full of people. I took her aside and said not only was she rude, but she wasn't even correct.

    Seán Hannan
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was once in a pub with a bunch of guys from work and one of them told a story about how he tried to get vitamins in a pharmacy in the States and the person working there had no idea what he was talking about until he said it in an American accent. Everyone laughed at the story except the French guy who did not know the word "vitamin". I said, "But it's the same word in French: 'vitamine'!" Then he said "Aaaahhh!" and laughed. My story is about genuine difficulties people have communicating in different languages (English, American English and French). OP's story is about someone being a d!ck and OP putting them in their place.

    JoMeBee
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an American who is angry about the difference in pronunciation between despite and respite, I am on OP's side. English is dumb with so many loopholes. Aw-ree makes perfect sense phonetically. I was mocked an Egyptian friend because I mispronounced a Middle Eastern city. Noone likes to have their mistakes called out and repeated incessantly....

    Terran
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because you pronounced a middle eastern city wrong?!?!? That's hilarious, given the vast amount of different pronunciations in arabic. There is hardly a "correct" way to pronounce any city in that broader region.

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    Sarah Léon
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The guy is in a prestigious university in France and he doesn't speak a French word ? And when he finds a French person who accepts to translate the French courses from the French university of France for him, he mocks her English prononciation ? Yeah no he's just a petit con.

    Anxious&Bored Bear
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am very slowly learning Spanish (in the US), and none of my Latin coworkers have ever mocked me for mispronouncing a word, or for using the wrong word in a sentence. Max is a culo.

    Display_Name
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a slight speech impediment and I'm American. My entire life someone has always pointed out the way I pronounce Drawer, World, Rory. It makes me feel unintelligent. I understand the issue OP is having.

    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "whyy arre youuu soooo meeeaaannn...?" Honestly, if you can't take it, don't give it! #Melt. OP = NTA

    Me. Just Me.
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an English speaker learning Spanish, I am so grateful that I learned English first. It has to be one of the hardest languages to learn. There are so many exceptions and variations. What's worse, even though we speak the same language, the same word can be spelled and/or pronounced differently in the U.S., the U.K., and Australia. I know this happens in most languages, but I think it's far more frequent and confusing with English.

    Roland Nijveld
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No it's not. It's the easiest of the Germanic languages. And Spanish is said being one of the easier languages to learn.

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    Enuya
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I HATE people who condescendingly correct other people's pronounciation or make fun of them because of their accent. I started learning English when I was 16, mostly by reading, and had almost no opportunities to speak in this language. I am always ashamed while speaking English because I heard few too many people laughing at my accent. I KNOW that I've a hard eastern-European accent that likely won't ever go away. You really don't have to make fun of me because of this, as I do my best to communicate even if it's not perfect.

    BarfyCat
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate that you feel ashamed of your English because of idiots who laughed at you. That's horrible!!!

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    SirWriteALot
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, mah dude, you killed it :-) I bet he also says he speaks "american"

    Aerial (Any pronouns/Canadian/Jewish)
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a native English speaker, and I don't know how to pronounce 'awry' or what that word even means. I'll probably Google it in a minute, but this is the first time I've ever read it.

    Abner_Mality
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Old joke (but true! And yes I am American): what do you call someone who speaks 3 languages? Trilingual... What about someone who speaks 2 languages? Bilingual... How about someone who only speaks 1 language? American !!

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell Max to STFU in all three language. Same goes for the YTA's.

    Robin Roper
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am American and can attest to the fact that about half the US citizenship is stupid and uneducated. It's sad and uneducated.

    Joe G.
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. His friend is American and gas lit him when he called him out. Classic!

    michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So many Americans butcher our own "language " it's embarrassing 😳. There are so many "dialects", "accents " across this country it's ridiculous, so we have no right to "correct " or mock anyone, period. Mocking, etc is a form of gaslighting and bullying, just stop this c**p 💩 😤. You should hear how many people f**k up "Spanish" in California, Arizona, New Mexico (yes, it's a State, not a country). BTW, it's not real Spanish, it's a mixture of Mexican and Spanish dialects. We do not really speak English, we speak American.

    KDS
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mispronounce words in English often I have a slight speech impediment so people correct me often so I am ok with that what I am not ok with if someone teases me about it. You are trying your best and no one gets it perfectly.

    ElfVibratorGlitter
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a friend who is born and raised in the US, speaks English well but mispronounces a few words constantly, like epitome (epi-tomb). I remember having to read out loud in elementary school and said clergy (cler-ghee) and got mocked and ridiculed. Like ffs, we're just imperfect humans trying to communicate.

    Carilyn Beverly
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am an American who grew up in Germany and went through the German school system. I remember when we started learning English, I felt like I was learning a whole new language lol jk; but I remember asking my mom if something was wrong with our English. That's when I learned the difference between American English and "The Queens" English lol. Certain words and phrases still make me laugh :) Not all English is created equal LOL

    Anony Mouse
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyway, I pronounce it “ uh-rye “ with the emphasis on the second syllable. This seems to be the most common pronunciation description.

    Christos Arvanitis
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Given the state of just our voting population here in the US, I imagine that a good percentage or 'Murcans couldn't pronounce "awry" if they saw it written.

    Martin Johann Christian Lorentz
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Max is American ..what do you expect? They can't speak proper English themselves. We're talking about the people, who are the reason why the warning "Do not dry pets in the microwave oven" is issued in the manuals. And yes, I'm not a native speaker myself. And before I'll geht slammed: My native language is German, but I'm also fluent ( but not native level) in English, and basic Level in Dutch, Polish, Japanese, and passive skills in Lower German, Latin and ancient Greek.

    Joe G.
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. His friend is American and gas lit him in the end. Classic American move.

    Ace
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I spent many years working with a majority of non-native English speakers and learned very early to be extremely careful when offering any advice, lest they take it as a criticism. Very rarely got it wrong, but some (very few) people are very sensitive, seem to feel that their English is good enough and refuse to try and improve. Conversely I'm always very open to being corrected when speaking French or German (let alone the other languages I know less well). Never has anyone mocked my pronunciation however bad it is, and I think this guy is perfectly justified in his reaction.

    MadRatter
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother and I are trilingual and my sister is quatrolingual (????) (English, danish, German and in her case Dutch) and we all make mistakes in each language, and apart from Dutch we all grew up with three languages. Even native speakers make mistakes. My dad is from the UK and when people apologize to him for "bad English", he will usually tell them that there's no need, since they speak his language better than he speaks theirs. I've said the same thing to people as well. It's normal.

    Earonn -
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTAs only put on the list to generate reactions. Why are you still falling for it?

    Lene
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just realised that I have been pronouncing awry wrong for the past 30 years. Lol. It's not a word I really use, but still it's funny to me to learn in bp via an aitah-post. Haha! It definately was not a word we even heard in school (had English in school from 4th grade/10yo and through high school/18yo). Anyways, I think OP needs to find a new international friend. OP is not the a-hole.

    Chris Riccardino
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    English, especially American English is wicked hard to learn. At its core, our language is the robber baron of languages. A third of our words we just stole from other languages. We don't even pronounce words the same in different parts of our own country. Hell, words don't even mean the same thing depending where you are. (as an example; in parts of our country wicked only means bad, or morally corrupt. (Hitler was a wicked man.) In my part of the country wicked can mean that, but it also can mean very or extreme (He was wicked happy) NTA. your friend was being an Ahole.

    KatSaidWhat
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA - we don't need to speak another language, you will acquiesce to our ignorance of yours instead. FRO. Don't mock people with language skills if you have none of your own.

    CP
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    I only read the headline, so let me take a wild stab. People mocked each other and should have laughed it off, but didn't. Neither person will give in and OP thinks because they did the mocking second that they were justified. Was I right?

    CanadianDimes
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially the one that said "it seemed like he was just having fun at your expense"! Uh, yeah, that's the actual problem - it was at OP's expense!

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    Trillian
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, he was being mean and tried to cover it up as a joke when called out.

    Rachel Pelz
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definition of joke or prank: only if the other person (who is suject of joke/prank) considers it funny as well. Period.

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    Chips&FriedRice
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I joke about your pronunciation, you can joke about my lack of languages. it's fair game, I started it, I should be prepared for consequences. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tho the guy (Max) seems like he was being an a*s about it and it wasn't actually said in a fun, joking way, and was used to mock them. He definitely deserved that comeback lol

    Pernille
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I bet all the ytas are people who only speaks English. English speakers can be really annoying with their unsolicited language corrections, I'll as, if I need your help, Jim! The french sometimes corrects too, but years ago it occurred to me that I tend to use an upwards infliction when saying something I'm not sure is correct, and thus ask a question instead.

    arthbach
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have a guy who is living and studying in Paris without being able to speak French. He is using a French person as a translator as he could not function in the country without one. Then he berates the person for being unable to pronounce a word correctly, and berates them again for 'not having a sense of humour'. Yeah, as I said, he is *using* the 'friend', and if he doesn't sort himself out soon, he isn't going to have a friend, nor a translator.

    M4tt
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm amazed that I had to read this fast down before someone finally pointed out that the American had gone to Paris, to study at Le Sorbonne, and was unwilling (or unable) to speak French.

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    Jessica SpeLangm
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have said to Max "You don't like how I pronounce some English words? Fine. You figure out how to communicate in French yourself. I'm out of here." Then I would have walked away.

    The Big Bad
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once had it the other way around. I'm Dutch and dutch is known to be a pretty hard language to really master perfectly (even for dutchies!). I met this guy at a party and he told me he got here only a year ago. I didn't even hear an accent and complimented him on his great dutch. Another guy heard me and told me that it was clearly racism that I gave this guy this compliment. Because "I should not find it amazing that this guy learned Dutch so quickly"? I've never heard anyone speak Dutch so well only after one year... White, black, brown, it's just a hard language.

    Sue User
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Dutch teacher took us to a bar. As lomg as we spoke Dutch, she paid. I left hoarse but drunk. ETA: learned Dutch ASAP after going to butcher, trying to buy beef ( only thing that cane to mind was boeuf ) , trying to moo and going home with paardenvlees. Turns out cows dont " moo " in Dutch.

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    veryvenasaur
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been trying to learn French for 6 years and last summer I finally got to go to France. I'd say my French is decent but my main problem is I have a stutter that gets really bad when I'm nervous and also makes pronouncing foreign and even certain non foreign words. Basically I went into a little bakery and tried to order an item but ended up panicking and not being able to stammer out the words. The other customer in the store started laughing but the wonderful woman behind the counter just turned and slowly and clearly said, "Vous voulez un [item name I can't spell with a gun to my head]" and I managed to say "Oui, sil vous plaît" and she smiled at me and said "Vous parlez bonne" then she switched to English and said, "Languages are hard keep trying." I don't know who you are random woman but you made my day and I still think of you sometimes. ----------- Translations "do you want item?" "yes please" "you speak well"

    Lady Lava
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's really sweet and so much more helpful than just laughing at someone who tries their best.

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    Blma1025
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The YTA crowd are probably also rude americans. Seriously, to only know one language nowadays is embarrassing.

    GalPalAl
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the yta comments must have been written by Americans. We are the only country where people who behave like that and troll you for being sensitive, and misrepresent those of us who don't do this. Shameful

    Panda McPandaface
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm an Englishman that spent some years in Spain and did my best to learn the language. I often made mistakes but because people knew I was making the effort I rarely got laughed at and if I did it was because I had made an error that in itself was funny - so I laughed too (eg. estoy caliente/tengo calor & pollo/polla). Once you have really tried to learn a second, third or more language then laughing at someone's efforts is no longer a reaction, you just want to help someone improve. It's not just Americans, the British too are convinced that thier language is the only one worth speaking (despite it only being the third most spoken language on the planet). I have never been brilliant at Spanish, but I am ashamed of most of my fellow Brits that just think if they speak louder then that will make them understood. There is one 'YTA' comment that really makes my blood boil, such blind arrogance! I'm glad that a second language was compulsory at school when I went.

    Roland Nijveld
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's only the 3rd language if you only count native speakers. In total English is number 1

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    Robert T
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An American criticising any pronunciation in English is laughable, but especially so for someone speaking it as a second or third language. It's to-mar-to FFS.

    Julia Cargile
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    America is getting more illiterate by the day so don't worry about mis-pronouncing words.

    Traveling Lady Railfan
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have many legally deaf/hearing impaired friends. They are voracious readers, so they have an incredible vocabulary and they use the words correctly, but because of their hearing disability, they don't always know how to say the word. Very infrequently in a conversation. Maybe one word out of a thousand. But I would never correct them, they are all in their 60s 70s and 80s, it's not like they're six seven or eight years old and just learning the language and a correction at this point could be beneficial. Someone who knows more languages than you do is already doing a lot better than you, you shouldn't be trying to correct them unless of course they ask you to ("if I'm saying a word wrong, let me know"). This person making fun of his trilingual friend mispronouncing a weird English word, is this rude and cruel. It's one thing to point out that they said it wrong it's another thing to keep pointing it out

    Andy Frobig
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why someone would spend a year at the Sorbonne and not bother to learn French. Max sounds like the kind of guy upon whom time abroad is wasted. OP is NTA

    BrownEyedPanda
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. I feel that if you spend at least three months in a foreign land, you should at least learn the basics of the local language. If you are having difficulty, it won't kill you to ask for help with learning. But mocking someone for accidentally mispronouncing words shows that you have no class.

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    Ciaran McK
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Americans being americans. The most condescending people on earth bar none

    Christian Golden
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Always, always, always encourage anyone who's making an effort to communicate. Especially when you're the fish out of water. I had the shoe on the other foot once, when a colleague - a native Spanish speaker living in the US - publicly "corrected" my double L pronunciation in a room full of people. I took her aside and said not only was she rude, but she wasn't even correct.

    Seán Hannan
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was once in a pub with a bunch of guys from work and one of them told a story about how he tried to get vitamins in a pharmacy in the States and the person working there had no idea what he was talking about until he said it in an American accent. Everyone laughed at the story except the French guy who did not know the word "vitamin". I said, "But it's the same word in French: 'vitamine'!" Then he said "Aaaahhh!" and laughed. My story is about genuine difficulties people have communicating in different languages (English, American English and French). OP's story is about someone being a d!ck and OP putting them in their place.

    JoMeBee
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an American who is angry about the difference in pronunciation between despite and respite, I am on OP's side. English is dumb with so many loopholes. Aw-ree makes perfect sense phonetically. I was mocked an Egyptian friend because I mispronounced a Middle Eastern city. Noone likes to have their mistakes called out and repeated incessantly....

    Terran
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because you pronounced a middle eastern city wrong?!?!? That's hilarious, given the vast amount of different pronunciations in arabic. There is hardly a "correct" way to pronounce any city in that broader region.

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    Sarah Léon
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The guy is in a prestigious university in France and he doesn't speak a French word ? And when he finds a French person who accepts to translate the French courses from the French university of France for him, he mocks her English prononciation ? Yeah no he's just a petit con.

    Anxious&Bored Bear
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am very slowly learning Spanish (in the US), and none of my Latin coworkers have ever mocked me for mispronouncing a word, or for using the wrong word in a sentence. Max is a culo.

    Display_Name
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a slight speech impediment and I'm American. My entire life someone has always pointed out the way I pronounce Drawer, World, Rory. It makes me feel unintelligent. I understand the issue OP is having.

    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "whyy arre youuu soooo meeeaaannn...?" Honestly, if you can't take it, don't give it! #Melt. OP = NTA

    Me. Just Me.
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an English speaker learning Spanish, I am so grateful that I learned English first. It has to be one of the hardest languages to learn. There are so many exceptions and variations. What's worse, even though we speak the same language, the same word can be spelled and/or pronounced differently in the U.S., the U.K., and Australia. I know this happens in most languages, but I think it's far more frequent and confusing with English.

    Roland Nijveld
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No it's not. It's the easiest of the Germanic languages. And Spanish is said being one of the easier languages to learn.

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    Enuya
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I HATE people who condescendingly correct other people's pronounciation or make fun of them because of their accent. I started learning English when I was 16, mostly by reading, and had almost no opportunities to speak in this language. I am always ashamed while speaking English because I heard few too many people laughing at my accent. I KNOW that I've a hard eastern-European accent that likely won't ever go away. You really don't have to make fun of me because of this, as I do my best to communicate even if it's not perfect.

    BarfyCat
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate that you feel ashamed of your English because of idiots who laughed at you. That's horrible!!!

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    SirWriteALot
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, mah dude, you killed it :-) I bet he also says he speaks "american"

    Aerial (Any pronouns/Canadian/Jewish)
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a native English speaker, and I don't know how to pronounce 'awry' or what that word even means. I'll probably Google it in a minute, but this is the first time I've ever read it.

    Abner_Mality
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Old joke (but true! And yes I am American): what do you call someone who speaks 3 languages? Trilingual... What about someone who speaks 2 languages? Bilingual... How about someone who only speaks 1 language? American !!

    Mike Loux
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell Max to STFU in all three language. Same goes for the YTA's.

    Robin Roper
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am American and can attest to the fact that about half the US citizenship is stupid and uneducated. It's sad and uneducated.

    Joe G.
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. His friend is American and gas lit him when he called him out. Classic!

    michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So many Americans butcher our own "language " it's embarrassing 😳. There are so many "dialects", "accents " across this country it's ridiculous, so we have no right to "correct " or mock anyone, period. Mocking, etc is a form of gaslighting and bullying, just stop this c**p 💩 😤. You should hear how many people f**k up "Spanish" in California, Arizona, New Mexico (yes, it's a State, not a country). BTW, it's not real Spanish, it's a mixture of Mexican and Spanish dialects. We do not really speak English, we speak American.

    KDS
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mispronounce words in English often I have a slight speech impediment so people correct me often so I am ok with that what I am not ok with if someone teases me about it. You are trying your best and no one gets it perfectly.

    ElfVibratorGlitter
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a friend who is born and raised in the US, speaks English well but mispronounces a few words constantly, like epitome (epi-tomb). I remember having to read out loud in elementary school and said clergy (cler-ghee) and got mocked and ridiculed. Like ffs, we're just imperfect humans trying to communicate.

    Carilyn Beverly
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am an American who grew up in Germany and went through the German school system. I remember when we started learning English, I felt like I was learning a whole new language lol jk; but I remember asking my mom if something was wrong with our English. That's when I learned the difference between American English and "The Queens" English lol. Certain words and phrases still make me laugh :) Not all English is created equal LOL

    Anony Mouse
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyway, I pronounce it “ uh-rye “ with the emphasis on the second syllable. This seems to be the most common pronunciation description.

    Christos Arvanitis
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Given the state of just our voting population here in the US, I imagine that a good percentage or 'Murcans couldn't pronounce "awry" if they saw it written.

    Martin Johann Christian Lorentz
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Max is American ..what do you expect? They can't speak proper English themselves. We're talking about the people, who are the reason why the warning "Do not dry pets in the microwave oven" is issued in the manuals. And yes, I'm not a native speaker myself. And before I'll geht slammed: My native language is German, but I'm also fluent ( but not native level) in English, and basic Level in Dutch, Polish, Japanese, and passive skills in Lower German, Latin and ancient Greek.

    Joe G.
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. His friend is American and gas lit him in the end. Classic American move.

    Ace
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    2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I spent many years working with a majority of non-native English speakers and learned very early to be extremely careful when offering any advice, lest they take it as a criticism. Very rarely got it wrong, but some (very few) people are very sensitive, seem to feel that their English is good enough and refuse to try and improve. Conversely I'm always very open to being corrected when speaking French or German (let alone the other languages I know less well). Never has anyone mocked my pronunciation however bad it is, and I think this guy is perfectly justified in his reaction.

    MadRatter
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother and I are trilingual and my sister is quatrolingual (????) (English, danish, German and in her case Dutch) and we all make mistakes in each language, and apart from Dutch we all grew up with three languages. Even native speakers make mistakes. My dad is from the UK and when people apologize to him for "bad English", he will usually tell them that there's no need, since they speak his language better than he speaks theirs. I've said the same thing to people as well. It's normal.

    Earonn -
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTAs only put on the list to generate reactions. Why are you still falling for it?

    Lene
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just realised that I have been pronouncing awry wrong for the past 30 years. Lol. It's not a word I really use, but still it's funny to me to learn in bp via an aitah-post. Haha! It definately was not a word we even heard in school (had English in school from 4th grade/10yo and through high school/18yo). Anyways, I think OP needs to find a new international friend. OP is not the a-hole.

    Chris Riccardino
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    English, especially American English is wicked hard to learn. At its core, our language is the robber baron of languages. A third of our words we just stole from other languages. We don't even pronounce words the same in different parts of our own country. Hell, words don't even mean the same thing depending where you are. (as an example; in parts of our country wicked only means bad, or morally corrupt. (Hitler was a wicked man.) In my part of the country wicked can mean that, but it also can mean very or extreme (He was wicked happy) NTA. your friend was being an Ahole.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA - we don't need to speak another language, you will acquiesce to our ignorance of yours instead. FRO. Don't mock people with language skills if you have none of your own.

    CP
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    2 weeks ago (edited)

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    I only read the headline, so let me take a wild stab. People mocked each other and should have laughed it off, but didn't. Neither person will give in and OP thinks because they did the mocking second that they were justified. Was I right?

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