Earning potential is stressed over current salary.

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"You pay will be great in three years!" "OK, I'll be back in three years."

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when the interviewer has been with the company for less than a year.

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In a startup, or any company undergoing rapid growth, this is to be expected. And even in less dynamic organizations, your hiring manager may have been taken on recently to build a new department.

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Unfortunately I have worked for a couple of places that hired roughly 75+ people 3 times per week at several location just to keep up with turnover.

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Amazon's business plan is to run out of "hireable" people in a couple of years and automate everything.

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"We offer flexible hours!" means that you will never have a set, week to week schedule, you will never be able to make plans more than a week in advance, and you will probably get stuck with turnaround shifts. (closing then opening.)

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I have the same problem. To me, a flexible schedule means flexible for them. Not for you. I requested dropping to a three day week instead of a four day week and that's all they did. I still have to work anywhere between 9-5 instead of the hours I wanted which was 9-2. Not only that but, I was told everybody has to work a Saturday which makes no sense since there's one guy there who's never worked a Saturday in their life. The managers however can work any days or hours they want. That's what a flexibke schedule really is. The managers working when they want to work and still get paid for it.

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If it feels like you have the job before your 'interview'.

I once applied to a trainee position, I got to the interview and it felt like I had already got the position and the meeting was just for details. It was weird, he looked at my docs more as a formality but apart from the excessive praise, I was never actually asked anything. I was told I would do a week trial with only travel expenses paid.

During that week there was no training or anything, I heard some not nice things (also some illegal things) whilst there, the boss was making plans to go out of the country for an extended period within 2 months and I'd be taking over for him as well as expected to bring in clients too...Also I wasn't deemed to be working fast enough and therefore they wanted to pay me less than £4 an hour. I didn't go back.

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Yikes, that sounds like being the fall guy for a bunch of illegal activity that would be pinned on the lowest employee who stuck around.

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I was once called to arrange an interview for a job in the medical field and the woman wanted me to show up for the interview without telling me what company it was, what was the job description etc. She told me we'll discuss during the interview and asked me to be in an address at a specific time two days later. It seemed way sketchy and I had already a second interview somewhere and pretty sure I would get the job so I cancelled this thing. To this day I wonder what that was about.

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Cutco... They wanted you to sell knives on commission.

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High staff turnover

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Couple of things.

**Open interviews**

Admittedly I've fallen for this a few times but I was young and stupid. It's clear they have a high turn over so they're trying to secure as many people as they can. Most of the time these open interview jobs don't have salaries, just commission.

**Refusal or reluctancy to share details over the phone**

This is what usually ends up in you turning up to an open interview. If they withhold information about the role (what you'll be doing etc.) that's a huge red flag. They just want to get you in the door for an interview to pressure you into joining.

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Is 'reluctancy' a word ?

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In the 90s when restaurant job posts were in newspapers, I made sure to avoid those that seemed to have an annual subscription to the help wanted section. If they are always hiring, people are always leaving. I can get that with sales and marketing, but if you are burning through cooks and dishwashers every week, something must be amiss with management.

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Places who always say they're hiring and always taking applications but you never actually see anyone new being trained or anything. It means people are quitting CONSTANTLY and management isnt hiring new people, so they are critically understaffed on top of poorly managed.

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Amazon delivery for sure

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Extremely short interviews and overly technical questions.

I've been interviewed several times by tech companies that clearly didn't read my resume or just about anyone else's. They'll base too much on your current knowledge and certs instead of on your ability to learn and willingness for a job.

Once had an interview last 15 minutes. No questions about prior experience, no specific questions about me, set up the interview with the hiring company literally the day before. Asked about the specifics of how a TCP conversation worked, seemed genuinely surprised when I couldn't remember one barely used flag. Felt like I was taking the CCNA all over again, useless knowledge and all, and they scoffed every time I missed a question. No 'thank you' at the end of the interview, no real signal that they cared about me at all.

Next day I received an offer from a different company. Their interview was heavenly and the day before that nightmare interview - they wanted to know about me, my motivations, interests, hobbies, and genuinely tried to get to know me and how I learn. They treat me so well and try to work with me on everything. I found out that the other company I had interviewed for was a failing SOC lovingly known as a revolving door from friends and colleagues.

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That was probably a ruse to allow the company to hire offshore/h1-b. They kind of have to go through the motions of trying to find local first. They make the interview impossible so they can say none of locals have the skills.

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I can think of a few specific examples.

A) When I was younger I was in between my dads house and my eventually wife (and then ex-wife)'s parents house, kind of living both places but I was transitioning to move in with her family. We lived about 50 minutes apart. She stayed with me on occasion at my dads, too. This all becomes relevant. I applied at the McDonalds in her town just trying to do anything. Well I got a call one morning at 7 AM, McD manager says interview in 25 minutes. We were at my dads and that call woke me up. So I told him look, I'm almost an hour away there's no way I make that, he said "Then I guess you dont want the job that badly". Today me would have told him to jog off, but back then me jumped in the shower and together me and my (ex) lady sped 120 through country roads and SOMEHOW managed to make it just in time. I gave my best damn interview. He never called me back.

B) A job for online Apple tech support through a third party working from home. In the interview they told me they'd send me a Mac to work from and a phone to use. I was a little smarter than the me in example A, so I had questions. My main red flag popped when she said "you're responsible for the equipment and the cost of any repairs if it breaks" .. Okay makes sense. But I asked "Are these new devices?" She danced around the question but I was persistent. Finally she said no, they're refurbished. So my next question was "So if you send this Mac to me and day 2 it stops working because of some non-damage issue, do I still have to pay the repair?" Yeah apparently I would and these suckers are NOT cheap. After that she said "I don't know if this job is right for you" because I ask strong questions to see if I could get f****d over by you guys? Yeah maybe not.

tl;dr McManager on a power trip didn't even call me back after I went double the speed limit to make his outrageous time demand. And sketchy work from home job wanted to give me possibly janky hardware and then charge me if it stopped working, got defensive when I asked if that was really the case.

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Charging an employee for broken equipment is mostly illegal here in Europe. The at least have to -prove- you did the damage intentionally or were absolutely careless (like.... using a laptop perched on a small board during a bath).

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Long personality quizes during the application. They're a huge red flag that the manager is incompetent

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I had a management interview with Cheesecake Factory years ago and it was an hour long phone interview of personality questions. It turned me off enough I won't even eat there 20 years later

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If they ask you to pay for training, that's usually a red flag that it's a MLM or pyramid scheme.

If they ask you to buy stuff on commission and then it's your job to resell it, big ol' red flag.

I've had job interviews where the whole company gave me a weird vibe - lots of psychology questions like "do you like to be in control?" while sitting in an office building with zero privacy - all of the offices had glass walls, so everyone could see everyone else. Needless to say, I didn't accept their offer.

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When they say you could be earning 6 figures in less than a year

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Where's the decimal point?

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When they can't return a call or keep you updated about your onboarding.

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I'm in the process of this; had an interview, took them almost 2 weeks to call me back, said I can start there. So I sent my info for the contract, still haven't signed anything, send them an email, no reply. Starting next tuesday. If i don't sign anything before that I will not be clocking in that day. The lack of communication makes me feel like I'm making the biggest mistake of the year so far :/

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Really small places, my last two jobs have been tiny. Fewer than 10 and once I get out of this second one I'll never work at such a small place again. You are absolutely at the mercy of the people/personalities around you. I can pretty much guarantee one of them will be someone with a borderline personality disorder who has a baffling amount of control and you've got zero buffer from anyone.

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I used to work in boutique law firms, a.k.a. very very tiny law firms with 2 to 4 attorneys, and one to three staff… it was hell. My last law firm, we were at the mercy of a very narcissistic, passive aggressive, unhelpful, rude, disgusting (both in what she said, the food she heated daily, and the bathroom stench) office manager. I refused to work another law firm after that job, and I switched careers!

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If the office is a s**t hole/bathrooms are dirty. **(TL;DR: cheap a*s owner)**

This is kind of an odd one, but here is what happened to me. I left a decent-size (400 employee), successful company because my career path was dead-ended. I had two positions above me: one was my boss, who was not going to retire for 20 years, and the VP, who was above him and also not going anywhere for 10 years or more.

Took a job at a much smaller company (70 employees), but it had a ton of growth potential. It was a small company on the verge of blowing up and getting big. I didn't pay a ton of attention to my surroundings because I was too excited about more money, growth, etc. The offices were a dump and the bathrooms were disgusting. There were two reasons for this: first, the company was small and growing and somewhat cash poor; second, the owner was cheap as F**K. In my time there, he would frequently make comments like "offices don't make me money," and "bathrooms don't make me money." Which, on the surface, is true. HOWEVER, people don't like working a dump. I had a job in IT and we would end up cleaning the bathrooms on a rotation. I'm not above scrubbing a toilet, but no one told me when I was hired that I'd have to wipe up p**s. I might have reconsidered taking that job.

Over the next couple of years, the company did grow and they did hire a cleaning company and they did invest in the offices, but the first 12 months or so were not entirely what I expected. Especially coming from a company that prided itself on nice, clean, modern facilities. I will say this though, the owner's cheap mentality was a continual roadblock for me in my time there. I eventually became director of operations and it was a constant challenge to deal his "step over a dollar to pick up a dime" methods. Here are some examples of his idiocy:

-Only the owner, the VP, and the financial guy were allowed to have company credit cards. I was a director of operations with 65 employees under me and I had to get petty cash from accounting or use my own credit card and get reimbursed for any events/spending/meals

-Most people were not allowed to book their own flights. It wasn't until later on that I was able to book my own flights. The entire purchasing department and none of the sales force were allowed to book their own flights. The owner did it and, if he could save $60 by adding two layovers or making your flight a redeye, he would do it. Nevermind the lost productivity and what that costs, we saved $60 on your ticket.

-Kept an opiate-addict around because he was a good welder and carpenter and would fix/build anything the owner wanted on the weekend for $60, a pack of smokes, and a case of beer. The addict regularly destroyed equipment, stole, lied, and worked whatever hours he wanted. When my predecessor tried to fire him, the owner over ruled, and after that the addict could basically do whatever he wanted because there were clearly no repercussions. I did eventually fire this guy and I still have the voicemail saved where he called up and begged for his job back after he had threatened violence against me and vandalism against my property.

-We had a plow truck that was in need of a wiring harness. The addict employee mentioned above had done something while borrowing the truck with the owner's permission and the truck caught on fire. The truck was an older V30 Chevy truck, but it was in decent shape and worked well. I ordered a wiring harness from Painless and figured I'd install it on a weekend and get the truck working again for $600. The owner traded that truck and $5,000 (!!!!!!!!) for a 2002 F250 5.4 XL regular cab with 275,000 miles on it. The Super Duty frame and suspension were completely rotten and the truck needed a rear end, brakes, brake lines, and fuel lines in the first year. I'm sure the guy that made that trade laughed all the way to the bank, coming away with $5k and a clean square body Chevy 1-ton that had an SM465, NP 205, 14 bolt, Dana 60, and only needed a wiring harness to be back on the road.

-I wasn't allowed to hire a lawn care company to do the mowing, so we had to have employees do it. The owner bought a used $400 riding mower that had 4 flat tires, no belts, and no battery from--you guessed it--the addict guy. I was not allowed to have a company credit card, but I did have a company Lowe's card, so I bought a cheap push mower over there and we used that to mow until years later when I was allowed to hire a mowing company.

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Hiring lots of people on the same position, everyone who calls gets a job.

Often means the job is either b******t or they're setting you all up to compete for the actual job.

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I think it's a weird question to ask a prospective employer, but an important one: What are your company values? It's kinda like asking on a first date your date's life philosophy. But man...it becomes EVIDENT when a company has no values. And if you don't have anything to strive for other than a dollar, your employees won't last.

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You'll more than likely just get their generic mission statement. And let's be honest, mission statements are pointless and usually include something about "meeting customer requirements." Duh.

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I walked into a supermarket years ago for an interview- I wanted part time work while I studied but the staff all looked so miserable, was like a horror movie, sad staff, crying kids, blinking ceiling lights, so I didn’t put any effort into the interview and didn’t get the job of course

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You weren't abominable enough.

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