Woman Bursts Into Tears After Husband Demands She Delete All Her Mommy Influencer Content
Being a social media star is very appealing and the reasons why many adults want to be influencers are plenty. From the outside, the influencer life seems luxurious, with all the expensive brand deals and gifts they receive. It also doesn’t seem too difficult of a job—just filming and taking pictures of yourself. Influencers also seem to have a very flexible schedule and go on nice vacations, which is a great bonus.
However, the price one pays for “being famous for being famous” is, in fact, quite big—privacy. Many influencers often post what they do in their lives, what their routines are like, and talk about things that happen to them. They have to do it day in and day out to maintain their presence online. This requires giving up a lot of the intimate day-to-day details of your life.
The conversation becomes especially tricky when talking about family influencers. Parents that use kids in their content are often looked at with suspicion. As laws protecting kids that participate in their parents’ content are only rolling out right now, many fear for the children’s wellbeing. It seems unfair to plaster the internet with images of your child who doesn’t fully grasp what the internet is and not pay them for their “job.”
The man in the following story understood how tricky family content can be, so when his partner decided to become an influencer, he raised his concerns. They both agreed on the terms and she proceeded with following her dream. Read on to see how it all went wrong and what social worker Maddie Spear (TikTok, Instagram) had to say about publishing child content online.
When it comes to putting content with children online, parents need to be on the same page
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The dad in the following story thought that he and his wife had agreed on what’s acceptable and what’s not. That’s until he watched one of her videos
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The husband is right to be concerned, but there might be a way to compromise
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When talking to Maddie Spear, Master of Social Work and licensed clinical social worker, about posting children content online, she emphasizes a few ethical considerations. The most important one being that young children cannot fully grasp what the internet is, its permanence, and the consequences of posting online. That is why they are not able to give anyone informed consent about being online.
She also points out that not all people on the internet have the best intentions. “It is absolutely not all doom and gloom, but it’s important for parents to ask themselves if putting their children online is really worth risking the safety and well-being of their family.”
Another important part of considering whether or not to publish children content online is considering how that content will age. “Remember the home videos that your parents took of you as children? How would you feel 20 years later if you knew 100,000 people saw them? Would you be grateful to your parents that the world got to see your cute and funny humor? Or is there any chance at all you would feel this is an invasion of privacy and maybe even embarrassing?”
Family channels have a track record of being awful
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According to Spear, being part of a family channel can be detrimental to a child’s wellbeing. “When children are constantly taught that they are needing to perform to be good enough for their family’s channel, it creates this intense pressure to please others and seek out attention in the future. Although this alone is not a bad thing, it can lead to poor self-esteem, people pleasing behaviors, and poor attachment to the ones they are in a relationship with.”
In recent years, there have been many instances of very problematic family channels. There was the mother that urged her child to cry when he was vulnerable, and the one that rehomed her adopted child after he became too difficult. Both these influencers quit their careers after.
8 Passengers is another family YouTube channel that invited a lot of scandal due to the behavior of the mother, Ruby Franke. At various points through her influencer career, she admitted that she took away her son’s bedroom for 7 months and did not bring lunch for her 6-year-old because she needed to learn “responsibility.” The channel is now defunct and the mother was recently arrested and charged with 6 counts of child abuse.
There might be a way to have a family channel that is not exploitative
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While many family channels are problematic, there might be ways of creating ethical family content. That type of content should mainly focus on the parents, not the children. If the children are present in the content, they should only be portrayed in a positive light. Their time in the content should be limited, and they should only be on there if they want to.
“At the end of the day,” Spear concludes, “the children’s safety and enjoyment are the utmost priority of the family.” She suggests that regarding the husband and wife’s story, they should dig deeper into why they hold these beliefs. Why does the mom want to be an influencer? Why is the dad so against it? “A realignment of values would be very helpful in the situation.”
All in all, navigating the influencer space can be tricky, but children’s needs should be put first. It’s obvious that the couple will have to come to some sort of compromise to carry on.
Many commentators agreed that he is right in this situation
He should have pulled his phone when she started crying and throwing a tantrum herself, filmed her and then asked her how would feel if he put this online. Exactly the same as what she did to the 2YO, that kid will probably get bullied when it gets older and other kids find the videos online. Also, it makes good evidence for a divorce to get custody if the judges see her act like a baby that cares more for her socials than her kids. Also: Recording a toddler that is naked and only in diapers?? That's like throwing bloody bait in shark waters, these clips will end up in the hands of pedos!
Children are not props for you to exploit. Laws really need to catch up with this s**t.
This is like the cake thing. It's not about controlling her content--she agreed not to show them and then deliberately broke her promise. Disrespectful and deceitful.
Exactly! The debate isn’t about the illusion that “influencing” is long term sustainable/profitable. It’s about her deceit & disrespect. I’d also add that her coveting influencer status not only speaks to an external locus of identity, but has also caused her to lose touch with her rudder or moral compass. Normalizing things like child exploitation or the sacrifice of privacy doesn’t speak to an inherently bad character, but of losing sight to what is appropriate or what consequences may come.
Load More Replies...So apparantly mommy cant make content without the kids therefore she is (besides pathetic) dependent on them. People, seriously. Leave your damn kids out of your content when the content is open to anyone! They didnt ask for this.
Predators are everywhere online. She is risking the kids' safety to try and become famous.
Yes, there was a thing a few months ago where someone analysed viewers of some mommy vlogs that show children. The vast majority of viewers were men 18-50.
Load More Replies...If he said "I don't care about your dreams" when a harmless thing was happening, it would have been bad, but in this case, the guy is 100% correct. Children are not a toy ,they are human beings that deserve to be treated well, same with animals, but in this case they're animals and not humans
I think the comments just saying influencers are trash, aren't helpful in a situation like that. They should go to couple's therapy and draw up a clear outline of what they can agree on and what not. She's probably a stay at home and sees the influencing thing as a side hustle or even career chance, so just telling her to stop entirely is unrealistic.
unrealistic? There are plenty of things she can do from home that are not that awful influencer nonsense. Influencers are garbage as are "side hustles'. Its not a side hustle. Its a crappy part time job. Changing its name does not change the facts. There are no redeeming qualities about any of this. If she wants money, get a part time job. plenty of remote work is available. She wants validation and free s**t from companies.
Load More Replies...No matter the reasoning, as a parent you have a right to not allow your underage children to appear in public social media profiles. Both parents have to give consent for such things. She’s not only being unfair and lying to you she’s actually acting against the law as well.
I'm sure this is unpopular but the whole "mommy influencer" thing is incredibly toxic for everyone. None of them are "good moms". They are all to be ignored and their methods are to be discounted. They shill their kids and do things for clicks and likes. Its a business, not a parent. All of that content should be banned. That Franke b*tch in Utah and her "partner" are clear proof of how toxic this nonsense is. The husband should take the kids and divorce this terrible woman. .../rant off
NTA. Your wife's online photos and videos of your nearly naked children are likely in the hands of pedophiles right now. Once you put something online, it's online forever.
I'll bet most of the content displaying their children has already been downloaded and shared innumerable times... online is where the sharing starts but certainly not where it ends. I watch a lot of CSI type TV programs, both fictional and documentary style. Responsible adults should know better than offering their children up for others to exploit.
Load More Replies...I watch a few youtubers who have young kids; none of them actually show the kids. Most of them don't even mention their names. One of them is more of a 'mommy' channel, but she does reviews for things moms would like / need / use for their kids, and if she needs her kids to review something, she just tells us what their response was. Sometimes it's just household items and trying cooking 'hacks' or 'viral' snacks. I'm more interested in that stuff. The point is, there's plenty of ways to do 'mommy' content without exploiting your young children and showing them in your video-- which they can't possibly consent to. Especially if they're just in a diaper.
I just watched 2 or 3 interviews with former "Family Channels" kids and none of them were very happy, nor where they talking to their influencer parents. Also, I am a videographer and photographer and I have enough experience to know that unless you make your house into a movie set and have a house full of cameras, catching that perfect shot on the daily is almost impossible. That means having your kids act whatever cutsie thing they just did over and over. I was a child actor and let me tell you, it was a hard job. YT should make all these channels follow child labor laws.
YT should ban the content or make it impossible to monetize like they did firearm content
Load More Replies...Those mommy influencers are whack. The whole facade of a perfect life that is nowhere close to reality. The kids end up neglected. And the husband becomes an unappreciated financier.
Europe is already changing laws to give kids the rights of their own pictures/ and other data. Once they're 18 they can chose which pictures get posted, until then thay have to be kept private.
This has finally been going on for long enough that young adults have grown up on these channels. Every one I've been able to find is a monster that WILL end up in jail or a wreck that loathes their parents
If you really want kids in ur videos, wait till they know what privacy is so they can choose for themselves. Im busy starting up my channel bc I know what it is and I feel I can safely film without revealing personal information EDIT : Spelling
no compromise. no discussion. either she removes it, or OP is gone with the kids.
Just guessing here, but I’m assuming that these ‘Mommy Influencers’ don’t post videos of them looking like utter s**t with no sleep & sweat soaked hair plastered to their head on a hot boiling day while wrestling a noncompliant screaming Houdini toddler (who’s pulling her hair with sticky fingers) into a car seat while holding a squirming baby whose diaper just leaked poop all over the both of them, while holding a shopping cart with her foot in a grocery store parking lot while the ice cream melts…Amirite?
Her "dreams" are to be a garbage person. And shes well on her way, abuse and exploitation of children. Obsessive phone and social media use. And bald faced lying too and gaslighting her partner. She sounds like a lost cause.
These "influencers" need to take a big step back and look at just how many breadcrumbs they are dropping for creeps to pick up. I really don't get the appeal of broadcasting your entire personal life to strangers on the internet, ESPECIALLY when your kids are involved.
He expressed a boundary that she AGREED upon, then she broke it behind his back and gaslit him into thinking he's the problem. And she is risking her children's well-being on top of this.
Absolutely NTA Your wife is the narcissistic and controlling one, not you. Document as much as you can and find a lawyer!
My three kids' online presence is up to them, not me. I haven't posted a single video or picture of them.
NTA: she cares more about her "influencer" status than her kids saftey thats a red flag
PROTECT YOUR KIDS! Nothing is more important than their health, safety, development, and trust in you to protect them and nurture them. Filming them for a career is exploitation. Do not allow it. Under any circumstances. If your wife can't (or won't) recognize the difference between HER being free to post online and her posting THEM then she isn't looking after their best interests. You are 100% correct. Take your wife to a therapist for a joint session, address this issue specifically with a professional in the room, and if needed, proceed with your divorce. That professional will support you.
If the house is too hot which is why your toddler doesn't like wearing clothes, then turn the thermostat down a couple of degrees. NTA for standing up to your wife. Recording a child throwing a tantrum, while holding them is just yuck. Who, in their right mind, would want to watch that? If your kid is throwing tantrums then seek help from your Dr, midwife, paediatrician or a friend/relative. Not an 'influencer'.
Usually those who react this way and says to the other is a narcissist is usually the one that is. She accepted but deferred to your boundaries as a parent. There isn't only one parent who has a say but 2. She went against your wishes and now must oblige to this. With all the pedophiles out there just waiting, you don't post vids of your child period. It's up to her to get her s**t together and stop being a child herself. NTA
Absolutely NTA. Let her find something that doesn’t involve the kids. She thinks she has problems with “a controlling husband”, wait a few years when the kids find the stuff and realize how she has been pimping them out. Taking away every shred of their privacy and dignity. You will get sucked in for not stopping it. That’s the best case scenario. The other 2 possibilities are she becomes so obsessed with fame that the kids become props for her dream. Even worse is the content is picked up by God knows who to use for unsavory things. Stick to your gut
FYI it's 'stick to your guns' not your gut. Trust your gut. Stick to your guns.
Load More Replies...He should have pulled his phone when she started crying and throwing a tantrum herself, filmed her and then asked her how would feel if he put this online. Exactly the same as what she did to the 2YO, that kid will probably get bullied when it gets older and other kids find the videos online. Also, it makes good evidence for a divorce to get custody if the judges see her act like a baby that cares more for her socials than her kids. Also: Recording a toddler that is naked and only in diapers?? That's like throwing bloody bait in shark waters, these clips will end up in the hands of pedos!
Children are not props for you to exploit. Laws really need to catch up with this s**t.
This is like the cake thing. It's not about controlling her content--she agreed not to show them and then deliberately broke her promise. Disrespectful and deceitful.
Exactly! The debate isn’t about the illusion that “influencing” is long term sustainable/profitable. It’s about her deceit & disrespect. I’d also add that her coveting influencer status not only speaks to an external locus of identity, but has also caused her to lose touch with her rudder or moral compass. Normalizing things like child exploitation or the sacrifice of privacy doesn’t speak to an inherently bad character, but of losing sight to what is appropriate or what consequences may come.
Load More Replies...So apparantly mommy cant make content without the kids therefore she is (besides pathetic) dependent on them. People, seriously. Leave your damn kids out of your content when the content is open to anyone! They didnt ask for this.
Predators are everywhere online. She is risking the kids' safety to try and become famous.
Yes, there was a thing a few months ago where someone analysed viewers of some mommy vlogs that show children. The vast majority of viewers were men 18-50.
Load More Replies...If he said "I don't care about your dreams" when a harmless thing was happening, it would have been bad, but in this case, the guy is 100% correct. Children are not a toy ,they are human beings that deserve to be treated well, same with animals, but in this case they're animals and not humans
I think the comments just saying influencers are trash, aren't helpful in a situation like that. They should go to couple's therapy and draw up a clear outline of what they can agree on and what not. She's probably a stay at home and sees the influencing thing as a side hustle or even career chance, so just telling her to stop entirely is unrealistic.
unrealistic? There are plenty of things she can do from home that are not that awful influencer nonsense. Influencers are garbage as are "side hustles'. Its not a side hustle. Its a crappy part time job. Changing its name does not change the facts. There are no redeeming qualities about any of this. If she wants money, get a part time job. plenty of remote work is available. She wants validation and free s**t from companies.
Load More Replies...No matter the reasoning, as a parent you have a right to not allow your underage children to appear in public social media profiles. Both parents have to give consent for such things. She’s not only being unfair and lying to you she’s actually acting against the law as well.
I'm sure this is unpopular but the whole "mommy influencer" thing is incredibly toxic for everyone. None of them are "good moms". They are all to be ignored and their methods are to be discounted. They shill their kids and do things for clicks and likes. Its a business, not a parent. All of that content should be banned. That Franke b*tch in Utah and her "partner" are clear proof of how toxic this nonsense is. The husband should take the kids and divorce this terrible woman. .../rant off
NTA. Your wife's online photos and videos of your nearly naked children are likely in the hands of pedophiles right now. Once you put something online, it's online forever.
I'll bet most of the content displaying their children has already been downloaded and shared innumerable times... online is where the sharing starts but certainly not where it ends. I watch a lot of CSI type TV programs, both fictional and documentary style. Responsible adults should know better than offering their children up for others to exploit.
Load More Replies...I watch a few youtubers who have young kids; none of them actually show the kids. Most of them don't even mention their names. One of them is more of a 'mommy' channel, but she does reviews for things moms would like / need / use for their kids, and if she needs her kids to review something, she just tells us what their response was. Sometimes it's just household items and trying cooking 'hacks' or 'viral' snacks. I'm more interested in that stuff. The point is, there's plenty of ways to do 'mommy' content without exploiting your young children and showing them in your video-- which they can't possibly consent to. Especially if they're just in a diaper.
I just watched 2 or 3 interviews with former "Family Channels" kids and none of them were very happy, nor where they talking to their influencer parents. Also, I am a videographer and photographer and I have enough experience to know that unless you make your house into a movie set and have a house full of cameras, catching that perfect shot on the daily is almost impossible. That means having your kids act whatever cutsie thing they just did over and over. I was a child actor and let me tell you, it was a hard job. YT should make all these channels follow child labor laws.
YT should ban the content or make it impossible to monetize like they did firearm content
Load More Replies...Those mommy influencers are whack. The whole facade of a perfect life that is nowhere close to reality. The kids end up neglected. And the husband becomes an unappreciated financier.
Europe is already changing laws to give kids the rights of their own pictures/ and other data. Once they're 18 they can chose which pictures get posted, until then thay have to be kept private.
This has finally been going on for long enough that young adults have grown up on these channels. Every one I've been able to find is a monster that WILL end up in jail or a wreck that loathes their parents
If you really want kids in ur videos, wait till they know what privacy is so they can choose for themselves. Im busy starting up my channel bc I know what it is and I feel I can safely film without revealing personal information EDIT : Spelling
no compromise. no discussion. either she removes it, or OP is gone with the kids.
Just guessing here, but I’m assuming that these ‘Mommy Influencers’ don’t post videos of them looking like utter s**t with no sleep & sweat soaked hair plastered to their head on a hot boiling day while wrestling a noncompliant screaming Houdini toddler (who’s pulling her hair with sticky fingers) into a car seat while holding a squirming baby whose diaper just leaked poop all over the both of them, while holding a shopping cart with her foot in a grocery store parking lot while the ice cream melts…Amirite?
Her "dreams" are to be a garbage person. And shes well on her way, abuse and exploitation of children. Obsessive phone and social media use. And bald faced lying too and gaslighting her partner. She sounds like a lost cause.
These "influencers" need to take a big step back and look at just how many breadcrumbs they are dropping for creeps to pick up. I really don't get the appeal of broadcasting your entire personal life to strangers on the internet, ESPECIALLY when your kids are involved.
He expressed a boundary that she AGREED upon, then she broke it behind his back and gaslit him into thinking he's the problem. And she is risking her children's well-being on top of this.
Absolutely NTA Your wife is the narcissistic and controlling one, not you. Document as much as you can and find a lawyer!
My three kids' online presence is up to them, not me. I haven't posted a single video or picture of them.
NTA: she cares more about her "influencer" status than her kids saftey thats a red flag
PROTECT YOUR KIDS! Nothing is more important than their health, safety, development, and trust in you to protect them and nurture them. Filming them for a career is exploitation. Do not allow it. Under any circumstances. If your wife can't (or won't) recognize the difference between HER being free to post online and her posting THEM then she isn't looking after their best interests. You are 100% correct. Take your wife to a therapist for a joint session, address this issue specifically with a professional in the room, and if needed, proceed with your divorce. That professional will support you.
If the house is too hot which is why your toddler doesn't like wearing clothes, then turn the thermostat down a couple of degrees. NTA for standing up to your wife. Recording a child throwing a tantrum, while holding them is just yuck. Who, in their right mind, would want to watch that? If your kid is throwing tantrums then seek help from your Dr, midwife, paediatrician or a friend/relative. Not an 'influencer'.
Usually those who react this way and says to the other is a narcissist is usually the one that is. She accepted but deferred to your boundaries as a parent. There isn't only one parent who has a say but 2. She went against your wishes and now must oblige to this. With all the pedophiles out there just waiting, you don't post vids of your child period. It's up to her to get her s**t together and stop being a child herself. NTA
Absolutely NTA. Let her find something that doesn’t involve the kids. She thinks she has problems with “a controlling husband”, wait a few years when the kids find the stuff and realize how she has been pimping them out. Taking away every shred of their privacy and dignity. You will get sucked in for not stopping it. That’s the best case scenario. The other 2 possibilities are she becomes so obsessed with fame that the kids become props for her dream. Even worse is the content is picked up by God knows who to use for unsavory things. Stick to your gut
FYI it's 'stick to your guns' not your gut. Trust your gut. Stick to your guns.
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