Schools are supposed to be hubs of knowledge and enlightenment, yet, nowadays, they often end up being the butt of the joke. Students and teachers call out schools for their ridiculous standardized tests, poor facilities, and academic requirements that are lacking.
We've decided to shine a light on all the absurd things that happen in U.S. schools. So, here we have for you a list of bad lunches, questionably graded tests, and the horrifying state of school bathrooms – all things that show how messed up the US education system really is.
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Son’s Math Test
I've seen people argue that there is a meaningful difference between 3x4 and 4x3 in terms of real life application (3 boxes of 4 items vs. 4 boxes of 3 items) but that is not at all obvious from the wording of the task and marking the answer as incorrect is beyond pedantic. What's worse, this is the kind of thing that teaches children rigid, inflexible thinking. It's also the kind of thing that makes children hate school and education as a whole. Shame on the teacher.
These days (or when I was studying teaching) teachers are not only supposed to support different ways students get to answers in maths but also teach different methods. In Australia anyway.
Load More Replies...I might get some heat for this, but technically the teacher is correct. The problem 3 X 4 is technically "3 groups of 4" not "4 groups of 3". It was not looking for the answer to what 3 X4 equals or what 4 x3 equals, but rather interpreting WHAT 3 x 4 means. You can hate the question if you want.
No, you're not correct. See, multiplication has a commutative property, a times b is the same as b times a. It serves no purpose whatsoever to teach a child there is a difference. Talk about making algebra hard for them later, damn. Take your common core and be off with you.
Load More Replies...I'd be willing to bet that they were teaching the multiplication tables using a method that had the children learning each number in order. So, you learn the 2's, then 3's, then 4's, and so on. So in this, while the child's answer is technically correct, if they're concentrating on the 4's; the answer is wrong.
My guess as well. The teacher wanted three times the number four instead the child wrote four times the number three. 🤷♀️edit. Ah thx for the downvote 🙄 I know that it's obvious I just wanted to write it in words other than numbers to make the point even clearer.
Load More Replies...Apparently the method is incorrect, well that's what I read on another post. I personally don't understand the method and I really dont care if the answer is the same.
I remember a similar problem from my own school days. Appearantly it had to do with teaching the grammar of math. So 3x4 is "3 times a thing with the value of four." So in a shop, if a customer asked for 3 times 4 apples, she'd want three bags with four apples in each, not four bags with 3 apples in each. Seems a bit trivial but as I remember, that difference is important to teach
Load More Replies...Not really. Although 3x4 = 4x3, they are different equations and meant different things.
They are actually equal equations and mean the same thing - 12. That's why you used the EQUAL sign for your EQUAtion. Because the two are equal, ie the same, ie not different.
Load More Replies...It's seems everyone in this comments section is dumber than they think the teacher is! The teacher is correct, even if it DOES appear to be a pointless question (yes, multiplication is commutative -- just like addition -- and yes, the end result is the same... but they are asking to express it exactly as written to check that the child understands that here the equation is expressed as 3 lots of 4, not 4 lots of 3. This could actually matter, say if you are giving 3 children 4 chocolates each, as opposed to 4 children 3 chocolates each. Total number is the same, but not the number in each 'group').
Came here to explain why the teacher is correct, but Lisa Pisa beat me to it. Please go read, understand, and like her comment.
The question asked for 3x4 not 4x3. The teacher is correct on this one.
If that was my kid... that teacher would be on their way out.
I'm sorry, that equation says 3x4. This means you add 3 4 times. The kid was totally right. Teacher needs to get a grip.
3 x 4 can be phrased as "the number three, four times please" as well as "three times the number four please". The whole discussion about wording is absurd as long as all you have is numbers and not, you know, actual words. And none of my Maths teachers was ever nitpicky enough to mark this as a mistake, even IF the question had been "Linda wants to buy three sets of chocolate bars. Each set contains four bars. How many bars does she buy?" We were explicitly and repeatedly told that 3 x 4 is the same as 4 x 3
I had a teacher mark my math wrong one. X + X =10. I put 3 + 7=10. The principal made her change it when my parents got involved. She wanted 5+5
When you're working with variables, that makes sense. Since both were X, it means the same thing twice. One variable can't mean two different things in the same equation.
Load More Replies...Why can't they just come up with the right answer no matter how they work it. This is the reason why I couldn't help my kiddo with his homework. I was taught a totally different way than he was. I didn't understand it.
Uninspiring Teacher Comment
My 11 year old daughters teacher wrote this comment on her homework. I'm absolutely flabbergasted and angry. This after my daughter just competed in gymnastics nationals a month ago.
A University Anatomy Course Censoring Body Parts
The things in this list might be hard for foreigners to comprehend, but the call is coming from inside the house, too. Many Americans know how crazy and dystopian some of their schools are. According to a 2023 survey by Pew, 51% of adults in the U.S. think that the education system is going in the wrong direction.
When asked about specifics, most respondents say that schools need to spend more time teaching students core academic subjects like math, reading, and social sciences. 52% of the respondents also agree that schools don't receive adequate funding and resources.
What A Sad Country We Live In For My 12 Year Old To Text Me This:
A Free Bag I Got From My School
What's not to love about the American school system? It amazes me that we still have college graduates who can read, write, theorize, and win Pulitzer prizes.
A Teacher In Texas Is Giving As To Students That Buy His Book And Leave A 5 Star Review On Amazon
Okay, that's flat out corruption. The teacher needs exposing in public, and then sacking.
The U.S. actually spends quite a lot of money on education, more than any other OECD country, in fact. In 2021, the U.S. spent around 5.6% of its GDP on education. For comparison, in Germany, Japan, and France, the percentages were 4.5%, 3.5%, and 5.2%, respectively.
Yet that doesn't translate into better results. U.S. students still lag behind countries like Canada, China, Estonia, Germany, Finland, the Netherlands, and New Zealand. Washington think tank the National Center on Education and the Economy (NCEE) reports that a student in Singapore is 3.5 years ahead of an American student in math, 1.5 years ahead in reading, and 2.5 years ahead in science.
My Chem Teacher Sucks
That's so stupid! The teacher apparently doesn't want to teach the kids chemistry but to follow blindly instructions without thinking. That is in fact the opposite of teaching.
My School Wants Us To Allow This On Our Personal Devices, Just To Use Google Classroom
My School That Started An Eco-Friendly Project By Giving Out Apples To Students
Some experts suggest that U.S. citizens don't see where the money goes. As the senior scholar at the American Enterprise Institute Mark Schneider writes, the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) often fails to publicize their expenditure data. In 2023, the NCES published a report but didn't give the public the raw data.
During The Summer, My School Installed Metal Gates Over The Bathrooms To Keep Us From Going In Between Class
Well now. If that's the barrier which stops the *boys* going for a pee in the proper hygenic manner, it seems to me that there's a straightforward solution... I mean, if you gotta go, you gotta go, and those horizontal bars won't stop a stream of fluid passing by.
I Got A Point Off For Stapling My Homework Wrong
Just about excusable if there were explicit instructions not to use staples but instead use a tag (what they called "treasury tags" in my youth). Otherwise, the teacher needs reprimanding.
My High School Nurse Sent Me Back To Class Even Though I Had Obvious Symptoms. I Got Home And Was Immediately Tested Positive For Covid. Shoutout To The Best Nurse Ever!
And why do we need to know where the NCEE spends its money? According to Schneider, it would help to "unpack national trends and extract lessons that can help us understand how to reverse the stagnation" in the current education system. Also, "To make the large and ever-growing national investment in education more effective and efficient."
My Teacher Only Lets Us Go To The Bathroom 3 Times A Month
Can anyone explain this sort of nonsense to me? What sort of society thinks it makes sense to limit when children are allowed to attend to natural bodily functions?
My School Thinks This Fills Up Hungry High Schoolers
So lunches are free for schools in my city and surrounding cities. Ever since lunches have been made free, the quantity (and quality) has decreased significantly. This is what we would get for our meal. It took me THREE bites to finish that chicken mac and cheese. Any snacks you want cost more money and if you want an extra entree, that’ll cost you about $3 or $4.
My Kid's Teacher Said "Gnome" Begins With N
The NCEE president Mark Tucker explains that the problem persists because the U.S. education system was built on a "factory model." Originally, most teachers in the U.S. were women without many prospects to work in other fields. In the rest of the world, however, teachers were professionals, trained and highly qualified to work in classrooms.
My School Asked Us To Research And Watch A Tedtalk Despite Blocking Their Website And Their Videos On Youtube
Do As The Teacher Say Not As The Teacher Do
So My Sister's School Had 4000$ That They Could Basically Spend On What Ever. They Choose This Pice Of "Educational Art"
Tucker says that the solution to the poor U.S. education system is simple. "We have to have more highly educated teachers and we need to pay them more." But that's easier said than done. He says that the U.S. still might have a slight superiority complex. "We were so dominant for so long that it's hard for us to accept that there are now so many countries pulling ahead of us," he explained to The Guardian.
Just Paid $800 For My School "Books"! It's Loose Leaf Paper!
You see this quite a bit with fields of study that are either new, or prone to regular changes. In both cases, they don't want you reselling the books, because in both cases, there's no guarantee that each year's textbook is going to be the same. Saw that happen with my environmental engineering textbook when I was going for my degree. Hell, halfway through the semester, our professor had to have us completely ignore two whole chapters of the text book because the standards that were presented there, had changed, and those processes could no longer be used.
Online School Started And I Can’t Learn Now
I can understand because this was probably happened right when everything got shut down and the demand suddenly skyrocketed
When You Get One Formula Wrong In Our Weekly Tests At My School They Make You Write It Out 150 Times. I Have 4 More Of These To Do
In grade school one teacher would make us do this with words we weren't supposed to say. Which once lead to me writing ORGY hundreds of times. I'm not sure she really thought that through enough. :)
Students in the U.S. also have a great deal to say about the changes they want to see in their schools. In 2019, The New York Times asked high schoolers how they would improve the education system. Students agreed that teachers need higher wages and more support, they would like to learn real-life skills and see standardized tests and grades de-emphasized, and feel less pressure to do well in school.
This Map In My School's Elementary Library
School Has Become Pay To Win
You've got to start them early on the 'buy this and get this free'. They don't want anyone figuring out what a c**p show that is.
What My School Gave Its Teachers For Teacher Appreciation Week
American students also want teachers to make lessons more engaging. "A textbook doesn’t answer all my questions, but a qualified teacher [who] takes their time does," student Michael Huang wrote to The New York Times. "Having a teacher [who] just brushes off questions doesn't help me," he added.
There Aren't Enough Seats In The Lecture Rooms, So I Don't Have A Table Or Seat, Even Though I Pay A Lot Of Money To Study
My high school's art class was like this after they cut the art department's budget. There used to be multiple art classes (drawing, crafts, photography, painting), but my senior year they just offered one ("Art"). No art supplies beyond some cheap paper and a box of broken coloured pencils, and not enough desks or chairs, so a good chunk of the students sat on the counters, tables, on desks, and on the windowsills. Our teacher (Goldie, she was a saint) had a nervous breakdown like 2 months into the school year and they never hired a replacement art teacher, just used subs for the rest of the year. The school did still have 10 working 35mm cameras--Goldie doled them out to the few of us who were actually interested in art and told us to never return them, she would just tell the school they were lost or stolen. I still have that camera.
My School’s Decision To Put Office Tiles In A Gym
Given the color of the tiles around the registers, I would be willing to bet that the decision happened around the time the school was constructed. Likely in the 1980's, when those tiles were seen as a viable and cheap ceiling choice, when compared with other options. At the time, they likely never considered hoodlums would be more interested in getting basketballs stuck in the ceiling.
Teacher Doesn’t Hide His Use Of AI
I mean - as long as he checked if everything is correct, it should be okay for a teacher to use chatgpt for such things.
These high schoolers also understand that they need support from their parents and teachers to thrive. One respondent, Melanie, wrote that when a student has people who are truly rooting for them, they might be destined for success. "With enough support and resources, any student could be motivated to step out of their comfort zone, and be pushed to further their thinking and education and do great things in the world beyond the classroom."
They Took Our School Bathroom Doors Away
Wow! Bigger gaps than normal! Ffs, the American system is off their nuts! Can't even hide in here if there's an active shooter! F******g disgraceful!
The Line At My School To Check Bags (Keep In Mind That Almost All Of Theses People Are Wearing Clear Backpack)
Context is important. Bag checks don't just look at a clear bag. Students must also pass through a metal detector, and around a d**g detection dog. That's because while the backpack may be clear, their clothing is not.
Online Classes Are The Worst
Brit here, I can comprehend pretty much everything here. I pay attention to what’s happening in countries that aren’t my own. I know that every country has its share of fruit loops and fools, sometimes they manage to get jobs in education, this applies to every country. You could easily amass a collection of similar images from my country. The only differences would be the spelling and the measurements. Fools everywhere I tell you!
Well I has been over 40 years since I was at school, but I am pretty sure that schools in Australia, and presumably in the UK, still don't have (a) metal detectors (b) d**g sniffing dogs and (c) active shooter alerts.
Load More Replies...Yeah, we have a lot of fixing to do with our schools. Everyone says FIX THE SCHOOLS!! However, we can't get our legislature to fund school infrastructure or teacher salaries, much less any tools and/or supplies needed to teach the children. It's a super big mess, and always has been. But hey, there's an interchange that will serve one business that will cost millions of dollars to build, let's do that instead.
The title currently claims these are "70 things from American HIGH SCHOOLS" and yet there are examples from pre-school through university.
To be fair to the US, I'm pretty sure you could find similar dreadfulness in plenty of schools in the UK. Still...
We really should get back to the days of beating students on the knuckles with yard sticks. I'm of the mind this is why teachers of old were fine with the meager pay allotted. They had an outlet.
Load More Replies...Anything interesting after #30? Or should I just wait until it says "This Post Originally Had" whatever the # was and read the rest then?
Without teachers, even geniuses can't learn. So let's give those who are responsible for teaching the future of our country $40,000 a year, $40 million to the guy who can hit a baseball, and $400 BILLION to the most evil and stingiest man in the world. Priorities people!
The survey here is dumb considering that some of these options should not be mutually exclusive: Both lunches and school facilities are important for health and safety reasons. As is teacher support, in fact, testing should be the least important one.
Agreed. More of these surveys should be "check all that apply".
Load More Replies...Out of all of the issues presented here, the one that is the most ridiculous, the one that most makes us roll our eyes and shake our heads in disgust, is cOnTinUe ReAdInG wItH bOrEd PaNdA pReMiUm.
I'm in school in America and I have to say, I haven't ever witnessed the majority of these. This I would assume it truly happens, but not quite as often as this makes it out to be.
I hope that it's not the same schools that forbid or limit bathroom breaks and that have a generous few minutes to change classrooms.
Brit here, I can comprehend pretty much everything here. I pay attention to what’s happening in countries that aren’t my own. I know that every country has its share of fruit loops and fools, sometimes they manage to get jobs in education, this applies to every country. You could easily amass a collection of similar images from my country. The only differences would be the spelling and the measurements. Fools everywhere I tell you!
Well I has been over 40 years since I was at school, but I am pretty sure that schools in Australia, and presumably in the UK, still don't have (a) metal detectors (b) d**g sniffing dogs and (c) active shooter alerts.
Load More Replies...Yeah, we have a lot of fixing to do with our schools. Everyone says FIX THE SCHOOLS!! However, we can't get our legislature to fund school infrastructure or teacher salaries, much less any tools and/or supplies needed to teach the children. It's a super big mess, and always has been. But hey, there's an interchange that will serve one business that will cost millions of dollars to build, let's do that instead.
The title currently claims these are "70 things from American HIGH SCHOOLS" and yet there are examples from pre-school through university.
To be fair to the US, I'm pretty sure you could find similar dreadfulness in plenty of schools in the UK. Still...
We really should get back to the days of beating students on the knuckles with yard sticks. I'm of the mind this is why teachers of old were fine with the meager pay allotted. They had an outlet.
Load More Replies...Anything interesting after #30? Or should I just wait until it says "This Post Originally Had" whatever the # was and read the rest then?
Without teachers, even geniuses can't learn. So let's give those who are responsible for teaching the future of our country $40,000 a year, $40 million to the guy who can hit a baseball, and $400 BILLION to the most evil and stingiest man in the world. Priorities people!
The survey here is dumb considering that some of these options should not be mutually exclusive: Both lunches and school facilities are important for health and safety reasons. As is teacher support, in fact, testing should be the least important one.
Agreed. More of these surveys should be "check all that apply".
Load More Replies...Out of all of the issues presented here, the one that is the most ridiculous, the one that most makes us roll our eyes and shake our heads in disgust, is cOnTinUe ReAdInG wItH bOrEd PaNdA pReMiUm.
I'm in school in America and I have to say, I haven't ever witnessed the majority of these. This I would assume it truly happens, but not quite as often as this makes it out to be.
I hope that it's not the same schools that forbid or limit bathroom breaks and that have a generous few minutes to change classrooms.