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GF Rejects BF’s Proposal Because It Wasn’t “Perfect”, Ends Up Regretting It Later
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GF Rejects BF’s Proposal Because It Wasn’t “Perfect”, Ends Up Regretting It Later

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Proposing can be a nerve-wracking experience. Traditionally, you have to get the parents’ blessing before getting down on one knee and asking your person to spend the rest of their life with you. Talk about putting your relationship in a vulnerable position.

For one guy, his worst nightmare came true when he proposed to his girlfriend of 6 years on vacation in Hawaii and she said no. Her reason? It wasn’t what she was expecting. The guy turned to Reddit to share his sad story. 

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    Having discussed marriage at length with his girlfriend and getting her parents’ blessing, he decided to propose during their vacation in Hawaii

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    After two days of postponing, he finally gathered up the courage to do it while on a romantic night walk at the beach

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    As he reached into his pocket and got down on one knee, his girlfriend stopped him mid-moment, telling him it wasn’t what she expected

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    Apparently, she wanted a grander gesture at sunset, with her beloved doggo present

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    Gutted, the guy stood up, turned around, and went straight back to the hotel, telling his girlfriend they could talk about it the next day

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    After a few tense days, the couple headed home, and the ungrateful girlfriend spent the night at her parents

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    When she came back, she emphasized how unhappy she was with his proposal and demanded a do-over

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    The guy felt that was unfair and said she’d only become interested in an Insta-worthy engagement recently, originally preferring a more intimate affair

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    The guy’s girlfriend tried to apologize and told him she regretted her actions, but it was too little, too late

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    Fed up, the guy decided to end the couple’s six-year relationship altogether, preferring to sleep on the couch until his girlfriend could move out

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    OP begins his story by telling the community that he and his girlfriend had been together for 6 years. Over Thanksgiving weekend, he took her on a week-long vacation to Hawaii with the hope of proposing to her.  

    He adds that the issue was that his girlfriend wanted a grand marriage proposal but, considering the trip was somewhat last-minute, he didn’t have the time to pull off anything that elaborate. Regardless, he figured a proposal in Hawaii would do.

    On their second day, they went out for dinner and drinks. OP says his girlfriend had mentioned before that she wanted a sunset proposal, but he opted to pop the question during a romantic late-night beach walk instead.

    Well, while OP dropped to one knee, his girlfriend stopped him and said, “I hope you’re not about to propose to me right now, this isn’t what I expected.” Gutted, OP got up and walked back to the hotel. 

    When the next day came, OP’s girlfriend told him she wanted him to propose again, just this time at sunset. OP said he couldn’t since he’d already been rejected, but she argued it wasn’t a rejection, it just wasn’t how she expected it to go down. After 4 tense days, they returned home, and OP’s girlfriend went to stay with her parents for the day. 

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    In an update to his original post, OP tells readers that his girlfriend had always been a bit self-centered but, since going to therapy, she’d become more compassionate—something that encouraged his idea to propose in the first place.

    Despite that, and based on her dismissive and disrespectful behavior, OP decided to end things and sleep on the couch until she could pack up her things and go live with her parents.

    Based on what OP tells us in his post, it would definitely seem that his girlfriend was too focused on the superficialities, missing the entire point of his proposal. 

    That being said, if all goes well, you’re only proposed to once in your life, so perhaps she felt entitled to everything being just how she had imagined it. 

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    Proposals these days can get quite elaborate, with some even going viral on social media. So, if you’re thinking of popping the question, what are some interesting proposal ideas?

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    In her article for Hitched, Maisie Peppitt puts forward some proposal suggestions that are guaranteed to get a yes. Some of our favorites include recreating your first date, going on a private tour of a museum, hiring a hot air balloon on safari, taking a private yacht cruise at sunset, proposing on a road trip, or going impromptu ring shopping.

    In an article for the BBC, Michele Velazquez of The Heart Bandits in Los Angeles says her most intricate proposal event was in a rooftop garden in New York, where delights for the bride-to-be featured a custom monogram at the bottom of the pool, towering orchid arrangements, a gift of Manolo Blahnik shoes, and a string quartet.

    Maybe something like that was out of OP’s budget, but we’re sure with a little more planning and discussion, he could have come up with a proposal closer to what his girlfriend had in mind. Perhaps it was just never meant to be.

    Bored Panda reached out to psychologist Dr. Deborah Hecker to get her professional take on the situation. 

    When we asked her what she thought of OP’s girlfriend’s behavior, she had this to say, “Although the woman wanted a grand setting for the proposal, but understood the limitations, the two agreed on a proposal at sunset. However, OP unilaterally changed the setting, rationalizing that she would still be happy.” 

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    Hecker goes on, “He was wrong to have done that as they were united in their decision, and she trusted him to honor it. Her disappointment, therefore, is understandable.”

    Hecker added, “The manner in which she handled her disillusionment, by asking him for a redo, was insensitive, emasculating, and arrogant. It would have been much better if she had accepted the proposal and later talked to him about her disappointment.”

    We asked Dr. Hecker for one piece of advice she’d offer to someone considering popping the question. 

    “The most important part of how-to-propose is in the details. My advice to someone figuring out how to create the perfect proposal is to know your partner’s preferences and customize the proposal as much as possible,” concluded Hecker. 

    What would you have done if you’d found yourself in OP’s shoes? Would you have tried again, or walked away? Let us know your opinion in the comments! 

    In the comments, folks agreed that the girlfriend was full of red flags and wondered what her wedding expectations might have been if that was how she reacted to the proposal

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    AKA AKA
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    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if she's like this at the proposal she'd have be an absolute bridezilla at the wedding.

    TribbleThinking
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are wise. You offered yourself, she said it wasn't good enough, that you should do better, you declined the challenge. Your intuition should stand you in good stead through your life. Good luck in your adventures to come and your eventual partnership with someone who isn't a rude entitled child.

    Becca not Becky
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Planning a wedding with her would have been a nightmare. Bridezilla to the max, then decorating a baby nursery, picking a house... yeah, OP dodged a bullet

    kansasmagic
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suspect that she is more interested in the *idea* of marriage than the reality. The proposal and wedding are just the start, kiddo. All the real s**t begins after the party.

    Wysteria_Rose
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband proposed to me almost 11 years ago the day/night after Christmas. I never had expectations of a proposal so I never knew when to expect it. I had picked him up from the airport (long-distanced). We drove by an area where we had our first date. He said let's get out and go to it. We danced in the same place we danced after a movie to a Norah Jones song. It was FREEZING. It was about midnight outside in winter. I was SHAKING. At some point, he said 'maybe let's come back tomorrow' but I had a feeling what was happening so I said "No, I'm really f-f-f-fine!" LOL Point is, I didn't care if I was becoming hypothermic. I just wanted to say yes. That's all it should be about. Yes, we have our preferences and daydreams but life doesn't go to plan! And you should learn to be happy when it doesn't!

    Janelle Collard
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP, you guys are only 21. She's selfish. It will only get worse. She is not your "one."

    Gwyn
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She wanted the social media attention for a glam proposal. She didn't want him. Glad he left! He sounds like a great guy, I'm sure he deserves so much better.

    sweet emotion
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He will never live up to delusional images she believes are her due after reading all those idiotic internet "influencers". Better to run fast and run far now .

    Agat
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The dream should be the person and the decision, not the way it happens. Nobody that loves honestly cares about the "how" or "how much the ring cost" etc.

    CBolt
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP doesn't say whether or not she's seen the ring - I suspect not - but how deflating would that be for him to open the ring box & have her say, as she did abt the proposal, "It's not what I expected."

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    Chris Landrum
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok so the wedding is all about the bride, so the proposal is too?

    Mari
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you really love someone you will be so happy with a proposal that you even forget the world around you. That moment is only about you both, not about the location, ring or other unimportant stuff.

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    Scott Rackley
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like one of those "in love with the idea of marriage, not the person" kind of deals.

    Ace
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is just sooo much wrong with this it's difficult to know where to start. The 'proposal' is not important. It's not a thing in itself. They've already agreed they want to get married, so this entire 'event' of staging a proposal is just fake.

    Midoribird Aoi
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After reading the entire thing, I sincerely hope that this matures her. It sounds like the therapist was making some headway. Wait until you are older to marry.

    Dar Mal
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How many more of these stories are out there like this? Where the "normal" guy can't meet the extravagant expectations of his TikTok-addicted girlfriend. (Of course it will all be the guy's fault! GIRL POWER!)

    zims
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's good she's getting therapy and learning, it's a shame that this relationship will be a learning experience and not a happy ending. But people can change and it sounds like she's making an effort. I think in the future we'll have actual medical names for the things social media did to our psyches, and in hindsight people will look at her with sympathy, but for now she's just keeping up with the Joneses.

    Lailu
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good on the guy and you’re an ungrateful POS to the girlfriend.

    michael Chock
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's amazing how people can be so unintentionally polite. How often is someone this clear that you will be wasting your life on them?

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    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They're both quite young - and she needs to grow up. I'm glad she's doing therapy and it's helping. Too late to save this relationship, because the OP has had it up to here and there's too much baggage. Her evolving will be for her own sake and for the next relationship.

    CBolt
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    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're doing exactly the right thing. I have NEVER heard of anybody telling the significant other how the proposal MUST be done - unbelievable! She doesn't want a proposal - she wants a Broadway production with sets, costumes, props, appropriate lighting, dialogue, rehearsals (& her dog). No, it'd have to be a film so if anybody flubs a line or the dog runs off, filming could be stopped & another take begun - until it's RIGHT. (+ She needs it filmed so it can be put on social media.) Not only is she young (& self-centered, demanding, rude, & hurtful), she's immature. All those things like writing in the sand, rose petals, etc, are so cliche - just as are handing the "proposee" a "single, perfect rose" as you propose (she'd specify the color), or proposing at dinner in a restaurant (oh, brother), your having arranged with the waiter to deliver a glass of champagne with the ring in the glass (& hope she doesn't swallow it) or having it put in the chocolate soufflé dessert - IF you're suthat's something she'd want to eat (& hope she doesn't break a tooth on it). All that's been done a million times, both on "reality" shows & on social media. But she wants that rather than something intimate, personal, & meaningful to your relationship. A wedding would be this orchestrated proposal X 100 - & if you (& everybody else) didn't strictly toe the line, down to the finest detail, (like maybe having to get your eyebrows waxed) to make it "the perfect wedding; the wedding I've dreamed about since I was a little girl; the most important day of my life" (uh, so it's all downhill from this one day?) - well, you probably can't even imagine the screaming, the tears, the tantrums - & who's laying out the $75,000 for this extravaganza (which would probably have details as trite as the ones for the proposal)? So let her go to find someone who's at her same emotional level & you can be free to do the same. (Just curious - has she ever wanted to talk about actual MARRIAGE? Children, finances, employment, # of bedrooms the house must have? All the boring stuff that comes after the wedding? OMG! I forgot abt the honeymoon!) You deserve somebody you can actually share real, adult life with.

    JD
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These stories are why I'm glad we did not do a proposal. We talk about everything, so the future eventually came up. Then one day we talked about getting married, and that was that. Together 17 years, married 12, and I wouldn't change anything about how we met or married.

    CBolt
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly the way we did it - talked abt getting married & decided to do it

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    Traveling Lady Railfan
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sweetie, you're 21. I know this is the oldest you've ever been but, to many of us, you're just a kid. And we've been there. We've been 21. We've been dating someone since high school, we thought we knew how our lives were going to be we thought that person was "the one." Most of us found it didn't happen. You said yourself you know your girlfriend is self-centered, and has to be in therapy just to be able to consider the feelings of others. I know that a 6-year investment in a relationship seems like the end of the world to end, but it isn't. It's actually the beginning. It's the beginning of a whole new world for you. Because you are mature, and she is still a high school student mentally. Don't worry about it. You didn't do anything wrong. The rest of your lives were never going to be "perfect moments" anyway, expecting that the proposal, the wedding, the honeymoon, and everything else is going to be a "perfect moment", is unrealistic and just setting you up for lifetime of unhappy

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's all about the presentation, not the person. I think that she isn't mature enough to know who she is as an independent adult, let alone get married.

    Andrew
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run and a run, outrun the bullet. Damn dude what a ride. Sorry bro but that was rough.

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an incredibly selfish brat! I'll bet she also demanded to be "treated like a princess" at least once, or was planning to. Honey, if you want that, be prepared to be married off to your 60 year old cousin to secure the alliance with Hungary.

    Tyke
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Massive red flag. He's mature, she still has a lot of growing up to do - that or they're not actually a good match. Or both. Hope he find the happiness he deserves

    zovjraar me
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my husband's proposal to me: "well, why don't we just get married?" in the car, at a stoplight. 24 years strong now.

    AG
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't expect the marriage to last if they more exciting about proposal and wedding than the union itself.

    Lab Lover
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Adding my recommendation to RUN! Imagine how this child of a girl- NOT A WOMAN, will react when she has to cope with real life? Real life will present some serious challenges. Your life partner is a critical piece, if not THE critical piece to how you manage them. Picture her response if one of you loses your job? What about when one of you gets seriously ill? What if one of you has a job that requires commitents that she doesn't like such as requiring travel, long nights, odd shifts, or weekends? How would she cope it one of you was a victim of an accident, or a crime? Now think of all these things and apply them to family? Siblings, Parents, maybe someday children? These people will also affect your life and when it's children the stakes are REALLY high. Talk with your partner about these kinds of things and be sure you are satisfied with the answers BEFORE you get engaged. (married 28 years with an amazing partner and it's still really hard)

    Did I say that out loud? (he/him)cis/het
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read the title, that was enough. I guarantee that she will be appearing on several sites about bridezillas in due course.

    tracy black
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    run run quickly geez ive been with my boyfriend 5 years i know he will never marry he dont wanna but i know he loves me and id be over the moon if hed just ask even if we have nothing but a permanant engagment and i wouldnt care if he proprosed with a rubber band ring i love him and the proposal nor the ring are important to me

    dandylilah
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trends are for followers. You should always thrive to be the leader in your life.

    Dream Pilot
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    she is entitled and ungrateful one, if only she knows how the worlds going on....

    Flo
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I don't know how long they [her therapy sessions] last, what days they are or what they talk about. I do know that she has become an entirely different person." Yeah, she's f**king someone else.

    Anna Drever
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Far too young and she sounds like a nightmare. Just as well they broke up.

    Dirk Daring
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP sounds like he's got his head mostly screwed on straight, and she sounds controlling and insufferable. (I say this recognizing we're only getting his side of the story)

    Flo Maz
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run! This is madness, nothing will ever be good enough. Hawaii, on the beach, wtf is wrong with that moron?? You are so much better off without her.

    Dre Mosley
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The proposal thing would have just been the tip of the iceberg if you had married her.

    LuisSD stuff
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The guy deserves so much better than this. I hate to say this but there are other fish in the sea. He'll find a wonderful woman who will accept the most simple of proposals as the best thing in the world.

    CRomz
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definity RUN! If she loved you like you deserve she would NEVER have even entertained the idea of saying that. Or be so demanding of how perfect it had to be. My husband proposed to me when we were young AF (younger than you), and it was in a hotel room after being apart from each other for a couple of days and he didn't have a ring, we were in bed, it was late as hell, and he looked a me and in a moment of pure vulnerability he said 'will you marry me someday'? Me: Hell yes! Dream proposal from the man I have been with for 23 years. Never had another formal "Proposal". Went ring shopping together a couple of years later on a whim one night after telling that story to a friend. But he's my soulmate so perhaps I am biased.

    eekelley511
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband was 38 (his second engagement/ marriage and my first) and he got down on one knee after I had been violently ill all day with tears in his eyes with a well-meaning speech that went to hell and sounded more like he was telling me he was dying and glad I was the person that was there for him in his time of need. I say all of this to say that in my mind it couldn't have been more perfect because I love him, and of course I said yes. If she was mature enough to care about the marriage instead of the engagement and wedding, she would say yes no matter the proposal.

    Beth Wheeler
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That girl is delusional to think that everybody in the world can do those stupid expensive proposals and crazy over the top weddings that they can't afford. I have the feeling that shed and entitled brat used to getting what she wants all the time. He took her to Hawaii for a week to do this and it's not what she wants. I can just imagine her ending up on bridezillas. I feel bad for this kid because it hurts and he spent a lot of money on the ring and trip.

    sandrabmorison
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You got lucky ....get out while you can.. A proposal is whatever and being slightly spontaneous is perfect as you had both discussed marriage. If she is a diva over this then the wedding will be a nightmare and cost the earth.

    Michael Largey
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This proposal did have an obvious fatal flaw - the person it was made to.

    Uncle Schmickle
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You nailed it with your statement : "she's always been a bit self centred ". People like that never change.

    Kyra Noelle
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is so much pressure to do over the top proposals and weddings it is CRAZY!. There is better stuff to spend that money on. Like a house. No reason to go into debt for any of it.

    Dave Morris
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Red flags there OP. Get out now, you're still young and she's immature.

    similarly
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I just say that the comments on this post have really made me feel better about people in general? Apparently, people were telling this poor guy that he was an a*****e for not making the proposal a giant Broadway production. If people want to make a big public show, good for them, but that style is not for everybody. Obviously, these two young people have some fundamental differences in how they see things. Definitely, put off marriage for later on.

    Meagan Glaser
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    There's way more going wrong in this relationship. Sure, girlfriend is crazy shallow, we all know that. But OP spent a LONG time explaining that he knew exactly what his grilfriend had clearly laid out that she wanted, but that he did NONE of it because...well, not for any real reason. He says over and over that he knew they would both enjoy his version better, he knew his version was better, he knew her preferences were dumb and trends that would age badly, he thought the reasons she gave were wrong etc etc. It's just a whole long list of "my girlfriend told me exactly waht she wants, and why. But I think it's stupid. I think she's wrong. She SHOULD like this thing I like instead. She should immediately be convinced by my far superior reasons and love what I decided she should want." And like, he's kind of right that his reasoning is more sounds...but he's completely forgotten she's a person. He seems to have resented her and downright disliked her for a long time.

    AKA AKA
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    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if she's like this at the proposal she'd have be an absolute bridezilla at the wedding.

    TribbleThinking
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are wise. You offered yourself, she said it wasn't good enough, that you should do better, you declined the challenge. Your intuition should stand you in good stead through your life. Good luck in your adventures to come and your eventual partnership with someone who isn't a rude entitled child.

    Becca not Becky
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Planning a wedding with her would have been a nightmare. Bridezilla to the max, then decorating a baby nursery, picking a house... yeah, OP dodged a bullet

    kansasmagic
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suspect that she is more interested in the *idea* of marriage than the reality. The proposal and wedding are just the start, kiddo. All the real s**t begins after the party.

    Wysteria_Rose
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband proposed to me almost 11 years ago the day/night after Christmas. I never had expectations of a proposal so I never knew when to expect it. I had picked him up from the airport (long-distanced). We drove by an area where we had our first date. He said let's get out and go to it. We danced in the same place we danced after a movie to a Norah Jones song. It was FREEZING. It was about midnight outside in winter. I was SHAKING. At some point, he said 'maybe let's come back tomorrow' but I had a feeling what was happening so I said "No, I'm really f-f-f-fine!" LOL Point is, I didn't care if I was becoming hypothermic. I just wanted to say yes. That's all it should be about. Yes, we have our preferences and daydreams but life doesn't go to plan! And you should learn to be happy when it doesn't!

    Janelle Collard
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP, you guys are only 21. She's selfish. It will only get worse. She is not your "one."

    Gwyn
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She wanted the social media attention for a glam proposal. She didn't want him. Glad he left! He sounds like a great guy, I'm sure he deserves so much better.

    sweet emotion
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He will never live up to delusional images she believes are her due after reading all those idiotic internet "influencers". Better to run fast and run far now .

    Agat
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The dream should be the person and the decision, not the way it happens. Nobody that loves honestly cares about the "how" or "how much the ring cost" etc.

    CBolt
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP doesn't say whether or not she's seen the ring - I suspect not - but how deflating would that be for him to open the ring box & have her say, as she did abt the proposal, "It's not what I expected."

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    Chris Landrum
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok so the wedding is all about the bride, so the proposal is too?

    Mari
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you really love someone you will be so happy with a proposal that you even forget the world around you. That moment is only about you both, not about the location, ring or other unimportant stuff.

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    Scott Rackley
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like one of those "in love with the idea of marriage, not the person" kind of deals.

    Ace
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is just sooo much wrong with this it's difficult to know where to start. The 'proposal' is not important. It's not a thing in itself. They've already agreed they want to get married, so this entire 'event' of staging a proposal is just fake.

    Midoribird Aoi
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After reading the entire thing, I sincerely hope that this matures her. It sounds like the therapist was making some headway. Wait until you are older to marry.

    Dar Mal
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How many more of these stories are out there like this? Where the "normal" guy can't meet the extravagant expectations of his TikTok-addicted girlfriend. (Of course it will all be the guy's fault! GIRL POWER!)

    zims
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's good she's getting therapy and learning, it's a shame that this relationship will be a learning experience and not a happy ending. But people can change and it sounds like she's making an effort. I think in the future we'll have actual medical names for the things social media did to our psyches, and in hindsight people will look at her with sympathy, but for now she's just keeping up with the Joneses.

    Lailu
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good on the guy and you’re an ungrateful POS to the girlfriend.

    michael Chock
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's amazing how people can be so unintentionally polite. How often is someone this clear that you will be wasting your life on them?

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    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They're both quite young - and she needs to grow up. I'm glad she's doing therapy and it's helping. Too late to save this relationship, because the OP has had it up to here and there's too much baggage. Her evolving will be for her own sake and for the next relationship.

    CBolt
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    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're doing exactly the right thing. I have NEVER heard of anybody telling the significant other how the proposal MUST be done - unbelievable! She doesn't want a proposal - she wants a Broadway production with sets, costumes, props, appropriate lighting, dialogue, rehearsals (& her dog). No, it'd have to be a film so if anybody flubs a line or the dog runs off, filming could be stopped & another take begun - until it's RIGHT. (+ She needs it filmed so it can be put on social media.) Not only is she young (& self-centered, demanding, rude, & hurtful), she's immature. All those things like writing in the sand, rose petals, etc, are so cliche - just as are handing the "proposee" a "single, perfect rose" as you propose (she'd specify the color), or proposing at dinner in a restaurant (oh, brother), your having arranged with the waiter to deliver a glass of champagne with the ring in the glass (& hope she doesn't swallow it) or having it put in the chocolate soufflé dessert - IF you're suthat's something she'd want to eat (& hope she doesn't break a tooth on it). All that's been done a million times, both on "reality" shows & on social media. But she wants that rather than something intimate, personal, & meaningful to your relationship. A wedding would be this orchestrated proposal X 100 - & if you (& everybody else) didn't strictly toe the line, down to the finest detail, (like maybe having to get your eyebrows waxed) to make it "the perfect wedding; the wedding I've dreamed about since I was a little girl; the most important day of my life" (uh, so it's all downhill from this one day?) - well, you probably can't even imagine the screaming, the tears, the tantrums - & who's laying out the $75,000 for this extravaganza (which would probably have details as trite as the ones for the proposal)? So let her go to find someone who's at her same emotional level & you can be free to do the same. (Just curious - has she ever wanted to talk about actual MARRIAGE? Children, finances, employment, # of bedrooms the house must have? All the boring stuff that comes after the wedding? OMG! I forgot abt the honeymoon!) You deserve somebody you can actually share real, adult life with.

    JD
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These stories are why I'm glad we did not do a proposal. We talk about everything, so the future eventually came up. Then one day we talked about getting married, and that was that. Together 17 years, married 12, and I wouldn't change anything about how we met or married.

    CBolt
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly the way we did it - talked abt getting married & decided to do it

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    Traveling Lady Railfan
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sweetie, you're 21. I know this is the oldest you've ever been but, to many of us, you're just a kid. And we've been there. We've been 21. We've been dating someone since high school, we thought we knew how our lives were going to be we thought that person was "the one." Most of us found it didn't happen. You said yourself you know your girlfriend is self-centered, and has to be in therapy just to be able to consider the feelings of others. I know that a 6-year investment in a relationship seems like the end of the world to end, but it isn't. It's actually the beginning. It's the beginning of a whole new world for you. Because you are mature, and she is still a high school student mentally. Don't worry about it. You didn't do anything wrong. The rest of your lives were never going to be "perfect moments" anyway, expecting that the proposal, the wedding, the honeymoon, and everything else is going to be a "perfect moment", is unrealistic and just setting you up for lifetime of unhappy

    Deborah B
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's all about the presentation, not the person. I think that she isn't mature enough to know who she is as an independent adult, let alone get married.

    Andrew
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run and a run, outrun the bullet. Damn dude what a ride. Sorry bro but that was rough.

    Beak Hookage
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an incredibly selfish brat! I'll bet she also demanded to be "treated like a princess" at least once, or was planning to. Honey, if you want that, be prepared to be married off to your 60 year old cousin to secure the alliance with Hungary.

    Tyke
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Massive red flag. He's mature, she still has a lot of growing up to do - that or they're not actually a good match. Or both. Hope he find the happiness he deserves

    zovjraar me
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my husband's proposal to me: "well, why don't we just get married?" in the car, at a stoplight. 24 years strong now.

    AG
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't expect the marriage to last if they more exciting about proposal and wedding than the union itself.

    Lab Lover
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Adding my recommendation to RUN! Imagine how this child of a girl- NOT A WOMAN, will react when she has to cope with real life? Real life will present some serious challenges. Your life partner is a critical piece, if not THE critical piece to how you manage them. Picture her response if one of you loses your job? What about when one of you gets seriously ill? What if one of you has a job that requires commitents that she doesn't like such as requiring travel, long nights, odd shifts, or weekends? How would she cope it one of you was a victim of an accident, or a crime? Now think of all these things and apply them to family? Siblings, Parents, maybe someday children? These people will also affect your life and when it's children the stakes are REALLY high. Talk with your partner about these kinds of things and be sure you are satisfied with the answers BEFORE you get engaged. (married 28 years with an amazing partner and it's still really hard)

    Did I say that out loud? (he/him)cis/het
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read the title, that was enough. I guarantee that she will be appearing on several sites about bridezillas in due course.

    tracy black
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    run run quickly geez ive been with my boyfriend 5 years i know he will never marry he dont wanna but i know he loves me and id be over the moon if hed just ask even if we have nothing but a permanant engagment and i wouldnt care if he proprosed with a rubber band ring i love him and the proposal nor the ring are important to me

    dandylilah
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trends are for followers. You should always thrive to be the leader in your life.

    Dream Pilot
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    she is entitled and ungrateful one, if only she knows how the worlds going on....

    Flo
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I don't know how long they [her therapy sessions] last, what days they are or what they talk about. I do know that she has become an entirely different person." Yeah, she's f**king someone else.

    Anna Drever
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Far too young and she sounds like a nightmare. Just as well they broke up.

    Dirk Daring
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP sounds like he's got his head mostly screwed on straight, and she sounds controlling and insufferable. (I say this recognizing we're only getting his side of the story)

    Flo Maz
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run! This is madness, nothing will ever be good enough. Hawaii, on the beach, wtf is wrong with that moron?? You are so much better off without her.

    Dre Mosley
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The proposal thing would have just been the tip of the iceberg if you had married her.

    LuisSD stuff
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The guy deserves so much better than this. I hate to say this but there are other fish in the sea. He'll find a wonderful woman who will accept the most simple of proposals as the best thing in the world.

    CRomz
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definity RUN! If she loved you like you deserve she would NEVER have even entertained the idea of saying that. Or be so demanding of how perfect it had to be. My husband proposed to me when we were young AF (younger than you), and it was in a hotel room after being apart from each other for a couple of days and he didn't have a ring, we were in bed, it was late as hell, and he looked a me and in a moment of pure vulnerability he said 'will you marry me someday'? Me: Hell yes! Dream proposal from the man I have been with for 23 years. Never had another formal "Proposal". Went ring shopping together a couple of years later on a whim one night after telling that story to a friend. But he's my soulmate so perhaps I am biased.

    eekelley511
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband was 38 (his second engagement/ marriage and my first) and he got down on one knee after I had been violently ill all day with tears in his eyes with a well-meaning speech that went to hell and sounded more like he was telling me he was dying and glad I was the person that was there for him in his time of need. I say all of this to say that in my mind it couldn't have been more perfect because I love him, and of course I said yes. If she was mature enough to care about the marriage instead of the engagement and wedding, she would say yes no matter the proposal.

    Beth Wheeler
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That girl is delusional to think that everybody in the world can do those stupid expensive proposals and crazy over the top weddings that they can't afford. I have the feeling that shed and entitled brat used to getting what she wants all the time. He took her to Hawaii for a week to do this and it's not what she wants. I can just imagine her ending up on bridezillas. I feel bad for this kid because it hurts and he spent a lot of money on the ring and trip.

    sandrabmorison
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You got lucky ....get out while you can.. A proposal is whatever and being slightly spontaneous is perfect as you had both discussed marriage. If she is a diva over this then the wedding will be a nightmare and cost the earth.

    Michael Largey
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This proposal did have an obvious fatal flaw - the person it was made to.

    Uncle Schmickle
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You nailed it with your statement : "she's always been a bit self centred ". People like that never change.

    Kyra Noelle
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is so much pressure to do over the top proposals and weddings it is CRAZY!. There is better stuff to spend that money on. Like a house. No reason to go into debt for any of it.

    Dave Morris
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Red flags there OP. Get out now, you're still young and she's immature.

    similarly
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I just say that the comments on this post have really made me feel better about people in general? Apparently, people were telling this poor guy that he was an a*****e for not making the proposal a giant Broadway production. If people want to make a big public show, good for them, but that style is not for everybody. Obviously, these two young people have some fundamental differences in how they see things. Definitely, put off marriage for later on.

    Meagan Glaser
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    There's way more going wrong in this relationship. Sure, girlfriend is crazy shallow, we all know that. But OP spent a LONG time explaining that he knew exactly what his grilfriend had clearly laid out that she wanted, but that he did NONE of it because...well, not for any real reason. He says over and over that he knew they would both enjoy his version better, he knew his version was better, he knew her preferences were dumb and trends that would age badly, he thought the reasons she gave were wrong etc etc. It's just a whole long list of "my girlfriend told me exactly waht she wants, and why. But I think it's stupid. I think she's wrong. She SHOULD like this thing I like instead. She should immediately be convinced by my far superior reasons and love what I decided she should want." And like, he's kind of right that his reasoning is more sounds...but he's completely forgotten she's a person. He seems to have resented her and downright disliked her for a long time.

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