Woman Refuses To Let Her Boyfriend Have Her Bank Account Info To Buy His Son A Present, Relationship Drama Ensues
It’s a truth universally acknowledged that money is one of the most common subjects couples argue about. In fact, a 2019 study from the University of Tennessee, Knoxville found that regardless of the happiness level within the relationship, money is a topic that romantic partners consistently disagree on. And unfortunately, Reddit user Dices1433 had to experience it firsthand.
A few days ago, she submitted a story to the ‘Am I the [Jerk]?‘ community, asking its members to help her make sense of the recent conflict she had with her boyfriend—the man said he wanted to buy a gift for his son and asked her to give him her bank details that would’ve allowed him to withdraw funds on her behalf, but she refused.
The two of them quickly got into a fight, and eventually, it turned out that the guy even intended to spend the money on something else.
This woman didn’t want to give her boyfriend the means to access her personal bank account
Image credits: Guzmán Barquín (Not the actual photo)
And he made a really big deal out of it
Their disagreement kept escalating
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Image credits: Dices1433
When you’re in a committed relationship, finance is important. 48% of Americans who are married or living with a partner say they argue with the person over money, according to a survey by The Cashlorette. Most of those fights are about spending habits: 60% said that one person spends too much or the other is too cheap.
Such conflicts can have serious consequences. In many cases, they are the number one predictor of whether or not you’ll end up divorced, according to a study of more than 4,500 couples. “Financial disagreements did predict divorce more strongly than other common problem areas like disagreements over household tasks or spending time together,” the people behind the research concluded.
What often makes matters even worse, according to data from a 2021 study of 1,713 couples conducted by Fidelity, is that roughly 40% of people in a serious relationship don’t know how much their partner makes.
These results came despite 71% of respondents saying they communicate “very well” with their significant other, and 25% saying they communicate about money “exceptionally well.”
Many couples are simply too hesitant to have full, honest discussions about money. “Life is busy and people don’t necessarily take the time to talk about their finances,” Stacey Watson, senior vice president of Life Event Planning at Fidelity, told CNBC Make It. “Money can be an uncomfortable topic.”
And people thought it was him who was being a jerk
To help pave the road to better marital finances and relationships, experts at Investopedia put together some of the most common issues and challenges to look out for:
1. What’s Mine, Yours, Ours. Sometimes, when each spouse works and they can’t agree on financial nuances or find the time to talk about them, they decide to split the bills down the middle or allocate them in some other fair and equitable manner. When the bills have been covered, each spouse can spend what they have left as they want. It sounds like a reasonable plan, but it can build resentment over the individual purchases made. It also divides spending power, eliminating much of the financial value of marriage, as well as the ability to plan for long-term goals such as buying a home or securing retirement. Plus, it can lead to relationship-ruining behavior like financial infidelity, wherein one spouse hides money from the other.
Bill splitting also pushes down the road any planning and consensus-building about how financial burdens will be handled if one spouse loses a job; decides to cut back on hours or take a pay cut to try out a new career; leaves the workforce to raise children, go back to school, or care for a parent; or if there’s any other situation in which one partner may have to financially support the other. Couples owe it to themselves to have a conversation about such contingencies well before any of them happen.
2. Debt. From school and car loans to credit cards and even gambling habits, most people come to the altar with financial baggage. If one partner has more debt than the other—or if one partner is debt-free—the sparks can start to fly when discussions about income, spending, and debt servicing come up.
People in such situations may take some solace in knowing that debts brought into a marriage stay with the person who incurred them and are not extended to a spouse. It won’t hurt your credit rating, which is linked to Social Security numbers and tracked individually. That said, in most states (those that operate under what is called common law), debts incurred after marriage jointly are owed by both spouses.
Note that there are nine states in which all property (and debts) are shared after marriage regardless of individual or joint account status. They are Arizona, California, Nevada, Idaho, Washington, New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana, and Wisconsin. In these community-property states, you are not liable for most of your spouse’s debt that was incurred before marriage, but any debt incurred after the wedding is automatically shared—even when applied for individually.
3. Personality. Personality can play a big role in discussions and habits about money. Even if both partners are debt-free, the age-old conflict between spenders and savers can play out in multiple ways. It is important to know what your money personality is—as well as that of your partner—and to discuss these differences openly.
Briefly, some people are natural savers who may be viewed as cheapskates and risk-averse, some are big spenders and like to make a statement, and others take pleasure in shopping and buying. Others rack up debt—often mindlessly—while some are natural investors who delay satisfaction for future self-sufficiency. Many of us may display more than one of these characteristics at a given time, but will usually revert to one main type. Whichever profile you and your spouse most closely fit, it’s best to recognize bad habits, address them, and moderate them.
4. Power Plays. Power plays often occur in the following scenarios:
- One partner has a paid job and the other does not;
- Both partners would like to be working but one is unemployed;
- One spouse earns considerably more than the other;
- One partner comes from a family that has money and the other doesn’t.
When one or more of these situations is present, the money earner (or the one who makes or has the most money) often wants to dictate the couple’s spending priorities. Although there may be some rationale behind this idea, it is still important that both partners cooperate as a team. Keep in mind that while a joint account offers greater transparency and access, it is not in itself a solution to an unbalanced power/money dynamic in a marriage.
5. Children. To have or not to have? That’s usually the first question. Food, clothing, shelter, Little League, ballet, designer jeans, prom gowns, minivans, and college are all part of a long list of child-related expenses. These don’t include expenses for offspring who have already left the nest. That’s assuming your kids will leave the nest. Some never do.
Of course, having kids isn’t just about the cost. If one partner cuts their hours, works from home, or leaves a career to raise children, couples should address how that changes marriage dynamics, assumptions about retirement, lifestyle, and more.
6. Extended Family. Co-managing finances and respecting the goals, needs, and expectations each spouse has regarding their extended family can be especially tricky.
Take, for example, her mom—she wants a vacation in Vegas. His parents need a new car. Her brother can’t make the rent. His sister’s husband lost his job. Now one spouse is writing a check and the other wants to know why that money wasn’t used to address needs at home or fund a vacation for “us.” When a serious crisis arises—illness, a major storm, an unexpected death—the pressure can be magnified.
Family money dynamics work the other way, too. His mom will pay to fly him home for the holidays. Her mom will fund a new car because the one she’s driving is a Honda, not a Lexus. Her mom buys the grandkids extravagant gifts and his mom can’t afford to match that kind of spending. The joys of a family often extend right into your wallet (pardon the sarcasm).
It’s impossible for two people to agree on every single thing. But by talking to each other, they can at least set boundaries, compromise, and find a lesser evil than falling apart. Assuming one of them isn’t a leech, of course.
After a while, the woman made an update on the situation, and it made the man look even worse
Get out of that relationship. The guy is a leech. Stay with him, and you'll lose tons of money that you'll never get back.
He's even trying to mooch money on behalf of his buddies.
Load More Replies...Oh, yes. Even getting it into his head to ask for bank account information - strike one. DEMANDING said Information - strike two. Getting gosh-on-a-cinnamon-bun darned ANGRY when not getting it - strike three. Using his own SON, who has no guilt in this, as a weapon for guilt tripping - strike four. DEMANDING an honest to sweet polka dot on a tricycle christ APOLOGY, not just to the child but to his own grown asś self - strike five. LYING UP THE WHOLE THING - strike… eh, I’m sorry, I lost count because of the gargantuan, Godzilla-could-use-this-as-bed-sheet sized, crimson red flag that’s limiting my field of vision… oh yeah - that’d be strike six through two hundred. And that, friends and neighbours, makes an impossible game. I am in total agreement with kath morgan on this - leech walking as a man (baby), will keep demanding OPs money, will keep gaslighting, will keep guilt tripping, will keep lying. Ditch the dìck and don’t look back.
Load More Replies...Just nope out of there. I've been married since 2009. My wife and I have separate accounts, no joint account. We will transfer each other money as needed but we do not have access to each other's bank accounts. The only times I have seen hers was when she needed help setting up a payee to transfer money. Another way could have been to say that you will purchase the device yourself and ask for where he saw it. The reaction would have been interesting to say the least
Get out of that relationship. The guy is a leech. Stay with him, and you'll lose tons of money that you'll never get back.
He's even trying to mooch money on behalf of his buddies.
Load More Replies...Oh, yes. Even getting it into his head to ask for bank account information - strike one. DEMANDING said Information - strike two. Getting gosh-on-a-cinnamon-bun darned ANGRY when not getting it - strike three. Using his own SON, who has no guilt in this, as a weapon for guilt tripping - strike four. DEMANDING an honest to sweet polka dot on a tricycle christ APOLOGY, not just to the child but to his own grown asś self - strike five. LYING UP THE WHOLE THING - strike… eh, I’m sorry, I lost count because of the gargantuan, Godzilla-could-use-this-as-bed-sheet sized, crimson red flag that’s limiting my field of vision… oh yeah - that’d be strike six through two hundred. And that, friends and neighbours, makes an impossible game. I am in total agreement with kath morgan on this - leech walking as a man (baby), will keep demanding OPs money, will keep gaslighting, will keep guilt tripping, will keep lying. Ditch the dìck and don’t look back.
Load More Replies...Just nope out of there. I've been married since 2009. My wife and I have separate accounts, no joint account. We will transfer each other money as needed but we do not have access to each other's bank accounts. The only times I have seen hers was when she needed help setting up a payee to transfer money. Another way could have been to say that you will purchase the device yourself and ask for where he saw it. The reaction would have been interesting to say the least
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