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Gay Man Tells His Elderly Parents That He Won’t Move Back Because Of The “Bad Memories Of Growing Up” There, Family Drama Ensues
Gay Man Tells His Elderly Parents That He Won’t Move Back Because Of The “Bad Memories Of Growing Up” There, Family Drama Ensues
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Gay Man Tells His Elderly Parents That He Won’t Move Back Because Of The “Bad Memories Of Growing Up” There, Family Drama Ensues

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Among the topmost nerve-wracking events in life, according to the universal stress scale, is a change in your family member’s health — something that most of us go through, sooner or later, when our dear and aging parents can’t take care of themselves. Here they were, taking care of you, taking you to school and picking you up when you’re down. Now, the roles have switched and it’s your time to support your folks, sometimes requiring you to uproot your own personal life and move back in with them.

While this may be an opportunity to spend some quality time with your elders, reminisce about the good ol’ days in a town that formed you as a person — these things are a bit more complicated for people from LGBTQ communities.

As this Redditor explains in his ‘Am I The [Jerk]‘ story, moving back in with his aging folks simply wasn’t an option because his conservative, Christian hometown wasn’t a place for a gay man. It wasn’t then and it isn’t now. Naturally, telling parents that you have no intention to make such a sacrifice for them stirred up negative reception from the whole family.

Unsure whether he did the right thing, this man turned to the trusted ‘Am I The [Jerk]’ community to get some much-needed perspective.

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    The age-old question many of us are forced to tackle each day: should I move closer to my aging folks, be there for them, or drop them at the assisted living center with a heavy heart (an idea that almost 90% of elders don’t even want to entertain, according to a widely cited study)?

    There are many complicated aspects one must take into consideration before choosing one over the other — finances, time and health being the three big ones. But no matter what you decide, seeing the people that raised you decline before your eyes is never easy. “If I had a dollar for every tear I shed in guilt, I could have hired 15 caregivers,” Sara Tapscott described her traumatic decision to Forbes.

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    Amanda Lambert, the owner of Lambert Care Management company and the author of ‘Aging with Care: Your Guide to Hiring and Managing Caregivers at Home’, is very well aware of the emotional toll that aging folks and their deteriorating health can create. After all, she’s been a professional guardian for almost 25 years now.

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    “My first experience working with older adults was coordinating a program called ‘Elderhostel’ which is now called ‘Road Scholar’,” Lambert told Bored Panda. Amanda says her fascination with eldercare began by chance — when she just entered her 30s and her students were off for the summer.

    “At the time, I worked at a small college in New Hampshire coordinating student activities in the winter. The college decided to add the Elderhostel program for the summer when the students were off-campus. All of my preconceived notions and stereotypes about older adults were blown out of the water,” Lambert remembers. “The groups were dynamic, energetic, and diverse. I thought they were much more interesting than the students. I was hooked!”

    People were unanimous that the author was very reasonable with his decision and that his family should be more understanding of where he’s coming from

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    “I promised my parents I’d never put them in a nursing home,” is a pretty popular sentiment that’s tricky to deliver. Yet, considering that the average duration of caregiving is a whopping 4.5 years, according to recent research (pre-Covid), many simply overestimate their abilities before making such promises.

    “Mostly everyone feels a responsibility and obligation to care for aging parents. But you have to think about your career and other relationships, too,” Lambert pointed out. “Leaving the workforce to care for aging parents has consequences. You have to factor in the loss of income during caregiving and the impact on your social security.” That explains why about only 17% of adult children choose to dedicate their lives to their declining elders. The good news: the likelihood of doing so rises with age, a recent study shows.

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    When his father started showing early signs of Alzheimer’s disease and his mom was diagnosed with leukemia, Rick Lauber, the author of two guidebooks for caregivers, experienced the gut-wrenching reality of caregiving firsthand. “One of the hardest decisions was to move Dad into a secured, long-term care facility. At that time, his Alzheimer’s disease had seriously progressed and he could not continue to live on his own. I remember moving Dad into this facility and crying as I knew this would be his final home,” Lauber, 60, told Bored Panda.

    At the time of this difficult chapter, Rick was working as a creative copywriter. But dedicating yourself to long-distance caregiving means you have to make some sacrifices. “Working part-time was somewhat of a difficult sacrifice as doing this greatly affected my income,” he explained. “But I knew that less income was only a temporary setback and that caregiving for my parents was my top priority.”

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    There’s no one-size-fits-all solution when it comes to caregiving, although assisted living facilities still seem like the most popular strategy. And while most will be tempted to keep their promises and not send their elderly parents to retirement homes, Amanda thinks most homes are not apt to fully provide the same accessibility features professional facilities can. “Caring for an aging parent at your own place is possible but challenging,” Lambert reasoned, explaining that most homes lack safety and privacy features otherwise available at assisted living facilities. “There are many advantages to assisted living and some communities will provide round-the-clock end-of-life care.”

    Speaking as a former long-distance caregiver, Rick says that the biggest drawback of this type of arrangement is “not [being] readily available to directly help, when necessary.” Which, without saying, is additional stress on its own. He also says it’s important to take into account all of the expenses of long-distance caregiving, including gas and accommodation (when necessary).

    “Making longer caregiving trips requires more time and can result in more wear and tear on a family caregiver (and a family caregiver’s own personal relationships),” Lauber pointed out. He also adds that “heightened stress, frustration, and/or guilt (due to being less able to provide more help/support)” also comes with the total price. And if you’re splitting the caregiving responsibilities with other family members, just like Rick did with the help of his two sisters, there’s also a possibility that these relationships can turn sour in the process. “Other family members may feel increased resentment towards a long-distance caregiver who cannot participate equally,” he explained.

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    In the end, it comes down to your willingness to commit to this rigorous role. As Rick puts it, fittingly: “An unwilling caregiver becomes an ineffective caregiver.” It’s not going to be easy one way or another, but there’s always a path that will allow the caring loved ones to enjoy the remaining time with their aging parents without any resentment bubbling under the surface.

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    Ren Karlej
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Going to probably get a lot of downvotes for this and being controversial but this is the kind of thing that people who say 'what will you do when you are old and have no children to take care of you' don't get. It places such massive obligations on the shoulders of people who would, in many cases, have to completely change their lives to do it. Doesn't mean they don't love their parents, doesn't mean they won't do it in some form but surely it is far better to prepare for your old age in a way that minimises the burden you place on family. I know not everyone can afford assisted living and care but I'd far rather save as hard as I can and sell my property and aim for that then expect family to change everything to care for me. Elder abuse by family is also a much bigger problem than people realise. Not because they don't love them, it is brought about by sheer frustration and desperation. Should you put that on your children? 🤷

    Doyle Alan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents just did this. They are in their mid seventies and have sold their home and downsized to an apartment. They said one of the reasons they did it was so it wouldn't be a burden on my brother and I when they start to get older and need care. It was very thoughtful of them.

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    Zedrapazia
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even if he wasn't gay, and his parents wouldn't live in a remote, shitty location, there's no way his parents can expect him to drop his own life and move back to them to take care of them until they die. He's got his own life, our children don't exist to be our cost free caretakers of old age. NTA, this man deserves to have his own life, especially in such a difficult situation.

    Phyzzi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially since he has been financially supporting them. No, this sounds like the parents were abusive or at least not supportive growing up and their personality disorders carried through into an adulthood of manipulation. The fact that they won't move into the ADU is especially telling. This guy has been their life support for years and they can't even compromise on moving to him. Time to lay it out: parents can move into the ADU and agree to family counseling or they can live out the rest of their lives not getting any support from the son they didn't protect or support in the basic ways he needed. He's more than paid off any "debt".

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    the electric frog
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just ridiculous. these parents expect their son to move away from his whole life, his job, and long-term partner to look after them in a place where he will likely have job trouble and be discriminated against. Thats unreasonable no matter the situation

    Kristin Ingersoll
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't sound like it's the parents who are upset, but the relatives... who really should have no say.

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    S
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Children aren't your free caregivers. Period.

    MiniMaus
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which brings up the question: What do single men/women do when THEY get older. No kids "to take care of them". We PLAN. We make sure that there will be enough money or we sell our own home to make that money. I understand that in the old days kids took care of their parents. But these days are different in that kids move across country or even out of country. My Mom never wanted to be a burden. She planned financially for a retirement home. Thankfully she was able to stay in her condo until she passed. I helped out by sometimes working from her place ( 1 hr away) and we thankful that I had a job that allowed me to so this .

    Tunk
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    3 years ago

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    My lord. The self righteousness of so many. I really do hope everyones PLANS for the future go exactly as they intend. Then we can feel superior because hey! Life is just straightforward like a textbook. Good luck to you all.

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    AJ
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh boy do I feel this one. My mother has been on a very long, very slow decline both physically and mentally. She is now in the late stages of dementia and requires 24 hour care. Ten years ago I moved back in to help my extremely old-fashioned father care for her. I have 3 siblings, all older than me, who have basically guilted me into staying. I've given up everything, stayed stuck in a job I hate because it's close to home and had no chance to worry about my future. Just found out that when the time comes the house is going to my brother - who doesn't even live in the same country as us. Also I have to put up with constant tantrums from my father about how he's sick and tired of having to do everything and how he has no help. He literally WILL NOT let me help. I have to sneak into her room at night to see if she's sleeping okay and to check her ostomy bag.

    Rosie Hamilton
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry AJ. That's awful. That they won't even leave you the house to compensate for how you have had to mess up your own future... I know money isn't everything but you've put your life on hold and there are cost implications and it's the least they could do! Some parents, sadly, can be very selfish.

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    Cheryl Sarnoski
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm in a similar situation. Kinda. My dad has been battling homelessness.Not due to drugs or anything. Just many very bad life decisions due to absolute Narcissism. My grandma has been guilting me to move back and take care of him. Herself refusing him to move in with her. She's retired and owns a 2 bedroom house. I live in NYC and I am doing ok for a single girl by herself. Healthy middle class, 1 bdrm rent stabilized apartment. Far from rich far from a stable place. Asking me to move to a town that has only a strip club, gun store, meth ring and a Dennys. I grew up in poverty, with a family that didn't want me and they definitely let me know. I got where I am by strategy and healing. Now I really don't feel any obligation to them. Don't get me wrong I love them and want them to succeed. But they would never do the same for me and even if I was in the place where I could comfortably help him, he wouldn't have an ounce of gratitude and I'd be right back in an abusive situation

    Dill
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cheryl, none of my business but going to say this anyway as your story touched me! Stick to doing what is best for you and avoid getting yourself caught back up in something that sounds like it would be damaging. If your grandma is that worried then she'll have to step up and provide a home, she can't visit that on others. She should not expect you to do something she herself would not. Children don't owe their parents care. Parents don't owe adult children care either but they made them so if anyone has more responsibility it is them. If our parents have done their best for us then doing it out of love is one thing but if they wouldn't do it for you, in fact gave you a less than good start, you really don't owe them a thing. A complete stranger is saying to you Put Yourself First. Feel free to ignore me of course! I do wish you well.

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    Nizumi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm willing to bet no such demands would have been made if OP were a straight married person with children.

    Katchen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would bet that if he were a straight married man the demands would not be made, but if he were a straight married woman, they would expect her to care for them. I wonder if his other siblings are men with families.

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    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm bamboozled that the family in the town wants him to abandon his life and be a caretaker for his parents. If there are other siblings, they're close by and there's a good chance their own children are old enough to be semi-independent. It sounds like a combination of tall poppy syndrome (cutting him down to size), resentment that he moved away, and an assumption that a gay man doesn't have emotional (and practical) ties to a place and a partner.

    -
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another reason I'm so shocked: in my family, three siblings contribute how they can: two live in another town (one very far and the other several hours away) and a third in the same town as our parents. The out-of-towners have decent-paying jobs and contribute mostly money (as well as phone calls) and the one in the same town is a housewife with little money who contributes her time. She occasionally gets stressed out, but the one several hours away can come by on weekends if needed.

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    Random Anon
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't envy his position but I think he's made the right decision. And, the parents are being absolutely selfish twats. These old f*ckers are dying soon right? Guess what, I am on my way out too. But, since I don't have kids, I deal with it. You don't choose to destroy someone's life for what's the remainder of your short time left. What's the f*cking point?

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    Ren Karlej
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Going to probably get a lot of downvotes for this and being controversial but this is the kind of thing that people who say 'what will you do when you are old and have no children to take care of you' don't get. It places such massive obligations on the shoulders of people who would, in many cases, have to completely change their lives to do it. Doesn't mean they don't love their parents, doesn't mean they won't do it in some form but surely it is far better to prepare for your old age in a way that minimises the burden you place on family. I know not everyone can afford assisted living and care but I'd far rather save as hard as I can and sell my property and aim for that then expect family to change everything to care for me. Elder abuse by family is also a much bigger problem than people realise. Not because they don't love them, it is brought about by sheer frustration and desperation. Should you put that on your children? 🤷

    Doyle Alan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents just did this. They are in their mid seventies and have sold their home and downsized to an apartment. They said one of the reasons they did it was so it wouldn't be a burden on my brother and I when they start to get older and need care. It was very thoughtful of them.

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    Zedrapazia
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even if he wasn't gay, and his parents wouldn't live in a remote, shitty location, there's no way his parents can expect him to drop his own life and move back to them to take care of them until they die. He's got his own life, our children don't exist to be our cost free caretakers of old age. NTA, this man deserves to have his own life, especially in such a difficult situation.

    Phyzzi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially since he has been financially supporting them. No, this sounds like the parents were abusive or at least not supportive growing up and their personality disorders carried through into an adulthood of manipulation. The fact that they won't move into the ADU is especially telling. This guy has been their life support for years and they can't even compromise on moving to him. Time to lay it out: parents can move into the ADU and agree to family counseling or they can live out the rest of their lives not getting any support from the son they didn't protect or support in the basic ways he needed. He's more than paid off any "debt".

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    the electric frog
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just ridiculous. these parents expect their son to move away from his whole life, his job, and long-term partner to look after them in a place where he will likely have job trouble and be discriminated against. Thats unreasonable no matter the situation

    Kristin Ingersoll
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't sound like it's the parents who are upset, but the relatives... who really should have no say.

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    S
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Children aren't your free caregivers. Period.

    MiniMaus
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which brings up the question: What do single men/women do when THEY get older. No kids "to take care of them". We PLAN. We make sure that there will be enough money or we sell our own home to make that money. I understand that in the old days kids took care of their parents. But these days are different in that kids move across country or even out of country. My Mom never wanted to be a burden. She planned financially for a retirement home. Thankfully she was able to stay in her condo until she passed. I helped out by sometimes working from her place ( 1 hr away) and we thankful that I had a job that allowed me to so this .

    Tunk
    Community Member
    3 years ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    My lord. The self righteousness of so many. I really do hope everyones PLANS for the future go exactly as they intend. Then we can feel superior because hey! Life is just straightforward like a textbook. Good luck to you all.

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    AJ
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh boy do I feel this one. My mother has been on a very long, very slow decline both physically and mentally. She is now in the late stages of dementia and requires 24 hour care. Ten years ago I moved back in to help my extremely old-fashioned father care for her. I have 3 siblings, all older than me, who have basically guilted me into staying. I've given up everything, stayed stuck in a job I hate because it's close to home and had no chance to worry about my future. Just found out that when the time comes the house is going to my brother - who doesn't even live in the same country as us. Also I have to put up with constant tantrums from my father about how he's sick and tired of having to do everything and how he has no help. He literally WILL NOT let me help. I have to sneak into her room at night to see if she's sleeping okay and to check her ostomy bag.

    Rosie Hamilton
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry AJ. That's awful. That they won't even leave you the house to compensate for how you have had to mess up your own future... I know money isn't everything but you've put your life on hold and there are cost implications and it's the least they could do! Some parents, sadly, can be very selfish.

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    Cheryl Sarnoski
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm in a similar situation. Kinda. My dad has been battling homelessness.Not due to drugs or anything. Just many very bad life decisions due to absolute Narcissism. My grandma has been guilting me to move back and take care of him. Herself refusing him to move in with her. She's retired and owns a 2 bedroom house. I live in NYC and I am doing ok for a single girl by herself. Healthy middle class, 1 bdrm rent stabilized apartment. Far from rich far from a stable place. Asking me to move to a town that has only a strip club, gun store, meth ring and a Dennys. I grew up in poverty, with a family that didn't want me and they definitely let me know. I got where I am by strategy and healing. Now I really don't feel any obligation to them. Don't get me wrong I love them and want them to succeed. But they would never do the same for me and even if I was in the place where I could comfortably help him, he wouldn't have an ounce of gratitude and I'd be right back in an abusive situation

    Dill
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cheryl, none of my business but going to say this anyway as your story touched me! Stick to doing what is best for you and avoid getting yourself caught back up in something that sounds like it would be damaging. If your grandma is that worried then she'll have to step up and provide a home, she can't visit that on others. She should not expect you to do something she herself would not. Children don't owe their parents care. Parents don't owe adult children care either but they made them so if anyone has more responsibility it is them. If our parents have done their best for us then doing it out of love is one thing but if they wouldn't do it for you, in fact gave you a less than good start, you really don't owe them a thing. A complete stranger is saying to you Put Yourself First. Feel free to ignore me of course! I do wish you well.

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    Nizumi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm willing to bet no such demands would have been made if OP were a straight married person with children.

    Katchen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would bet that if he were a straight married man the demands would not be made, but if he were a straight married woman, they would expect her to care for them. I wonder if his other siblings are men with families.

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    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm bamboozled that the family in the town wants him to abandon his life and be a caretaker for his parents. If there are other siblings, they're close by and there's a good chance their own children are old enough to be semi-independent. It sounds like a combination of tall poppy syndrome (cutting him down to size), resentment that he moved away, and an assumption that a gay man doesn't have emotional (and practical) ties to a place and a partner.

    -
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another reason I'm so shocked: in my family, three siblings contribute how they can: two live in another town (one very far and the other several hours away) and a third in the same town as our parents. The out-of-towners have decent-paying jobs and contribute mostly money (as well as phone calls) and the one in the same town is a housewife with little money who contributes her time. She occasionally gets stressed out, but the one several hours away can come by on weekends if needed.

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    Random Anon
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't envy his position but I think he's made the right decision. And, the parents are being absolutely selfish twats. These old f*ckers are dying soon right? Guess what, I am on my way out too. But, since I don't have kids, I deal with it. You don't choose to destroy someone's life for what's the remainder of your short time left. What's the f*cking point?

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