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30 Hilarious Things That People Overheard And Saw At Workplaces And Decided Were Too Good Not To Share
Usually, going to a job interview is a nerve-wracking process. Sitting there, being evaluated, questioned. “What are your major weaknesses?” “How do you deal with pressure?” “Where do you see yourself in five years?” And you don’t even know if you got the job at the end of it! Below is a collection of overheard conversations and honest thoughts about jobs and the job-search.
Collected by the Instagram account Overheard Recruiting, these situations reveal all the sitcom-worthy struggles people hear about in the workplace. Maybe it will help you feel a bit better about your on-the-job experiences. Be sure to upvote your favorite pictures and share your own unhinged office stories in the comments. Now let's get into it!
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SealOfDisapproval 2 years ago
If you are indeed offering a "competitive salary" why don't you put the numbers in the description?
Coady 2 years ago
Because they don't want current employees to resign if the offer is dramatically higher than what they were given to start, and they want potential hires to undercut themselves
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Randolph Croft 2 years ago
If a company is ashamed of their wages, there's a bigger problem behind it, imho.
Amy Beckler 2 years ago
This c**p with secretive pay? Been going on my whole life-and I'm 70... also female... even trickier.. or is that the wrong word...
Bsawlsville 2 years ago
It is now the law in California. Businesses must post the salary range with job postings
Jay Son 2 years ago
Yeah, but from what I read, it's not creating the effect they wanted. The ranges are very broad apparently.
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Cat Palmer 2 years ago
So glad this isn't really a thing in the UK. Nearly all jobs specify at least a rough range that they're looking to pay. If they don't, I know it's not worth the hassle of applying as it's probably a sales job involving commission.
Marilyn Russell 2 years ago
I’m looking for work now after losing my job when Covid hit, and then becoming the de facto personal caregiver for my elderly father in law who was battling cancer, but passed away last summer. It sure is annoying when ads don’t give the pay range and I wonder should I bother with all the writing a cover letter thing for this? But I’m waiting now with phone obviously in hand to hear back from a doctor’s office for a reception job I went to for an interview yesterday so wish me luck everyone!
UncleJon_TheMadScientist 2 years ago
...pays significantly less than the crappy job you are trying to escape...
Steve Teoh 2 years ago
Sharing the salary saves everyone's time, energy and resources. So much time is wasted when applicants find that the salary offered is below their expectation during the interview. If the hiring company is concerned about revealing the salary then indicate the range.
Scott Rackley 2 years ago
I never understood this. You are wasting your time and mine, and irritating me with our first meeting. So even if it was "competitive" now the pay has to be "far exceeding" because I now know how you treat people's time.
Tim Sireno 2 years ago
One component you're missing here is the people doing the interviewing don't care about wasting 'their time' because most corporate middle managers often rise to the level of their incompetence in companies and don't want anyone to catch on to that they are exploiting the fact they get paid even if their doing nothing but attending meetings all day. I've worked at plenty of companies where the management pretty much 'lived for' creating 'busybody work meetings' throughout the month. And that's one of the huge backfires of corporate structures being modeled after military hierarchies back in the 50's, because in actuality most companies function best in a more flat structure consisting of just the people who actually perform the work without all the bureaucracy and recording/copying everything in triplicate.
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Sonja 2 years ago
I asked for a raise. I was well prepared to show what I brought to the company and how the company profited during the last year grom my work specifically in contrast to other employees and new hires. My boss countered that was still just doing my job as expected so why should he pay me more? I said, my general costs of sustaining the continued quality and amount of work had gone up and sadly I had to either ask for a higher rate or nove on to find a better offer to sustain me. And since new hires got higher wages anyways, he'd have more expenses because they wouldn't be able to deliver my output and he'd have extra costs for training and the hiring process so he should just give me a raise. He laughed and said it was a funny joke. 6 weeks later he realised it was indeed no joke when I quit. But I doubt he'll learn anything from it
Phyzzi 2 years ago
Dang, you should have gotten the raise for that second answer for sure.
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Christof Irran 2 years ago
Back in the early 1990's I got a 5% increase during my annual review; I said that this was very generous, but I have to ask for an additional increase of $5,000 per year to get me to the mid- to upper range of what this job would pay out there. She said that this was a touch sell; it is not in the budget, but she will fight for it anyway. A week later I (and two of my closest co-workers) did indeed receive the $5,000 annual increase. I guess they knew what they had...
RafCo (he/him) 2 years ago
Why wouldn't you? I have certainly fought for better pay for my people. They should get what they deserve, and if they don't, they should go where they're appreciated. If that means I have need to help them move on, I'm happy to do so. Most managers are loyal to their teams, not a board of directors they've never met. I fight for my team, my manager fights for me, and so on, while Finance and HR fight for the company. Hopefully everybody benefits
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I asked for a raise for the first time ever: I spent ages gathering evidence and preparing to present my case, but my boss did not look impressed. I found out shortly afterwards that the other three members of the team had also asked for raises the same week. 😬 We all got them, though!
DeAnn A 2 years ago
At one job I asked for a raise and was told, "I pay you what you're worth"! From that point on I quickly started looking for another job. In about a month I received an offer from another company, down the street from my current one, for 2x the amount I was getting. I just called in one day and said I didn't work there anymore. Goodbye and good riddance.
Monosyllabic girl 2 years ago
I recently did same after finding out that our new hires were making more than i as a manager was. Was told there "weren't any assessments for raises" for a few months yet. I put in my two week notice... Magically they came up with the ability to authorize a $4 per hour raise. I refused and left. A month later i was chatting with former boss about horror movies and he mentioned my spot had opened up again, the new hire rarely showed up, and offered 5$ more per hour. Like an idiot i took it and went back to a few other changes i had requested. The positive changes lasted about a week and now the job is worse than it was in first place. Sigh. Readying myself to leave again. Think I'll try office work again, customer service is intolerable right now
Duncan 2 years ago
I once had a job where I was doing one role, then got promoted and then after someone left I was doing my old role and new one. I asked 3 times for a raise to no avail. I started looking for a new job and got one paying 20% more. When I told my boss I was leaving, only then they said they could match it, I told them it is too late and you had your chance. They would have had a hard time filling the role(s).
To paraphrase Forrest Gump, candidates are like a box of chocolate, you never know who you are going to get. Sure, a resume might tell you something, just like a box of chocolates contains, well, at least some chocolate. But it’s what's under the chocolate coating that counts if we are maintaining the metaphor. And some of these are prime examples of “you never know what you're going to get.”
It’s no secret that recruiters are more likely to favor a candidate who they have a rapport with. So, presumably, many candidates like to present a bit of their personality. Let’s face it, the average person isn’t a robot who just eats, sleeps, and breathes work. Unfortunately, some candidates take this a little too far.
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Phyzzi 2 years ago
Yeah, it seems like people forget that a job interview is going both ways. I don't want to work for someone who is planning to throw intentional curve balls at me: work has enough unintentional ones. I'm not one to get mad at service workers, but if it's obvious that you don't care what I want, then thanks, but no thanks.
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rorschach-penguin 2 years ago
I mean, this seems a little f****d up. I wouldn't want to work for a company that purposefully f****d with potential hires in some sort of "test".
Caitlyn Fell 2 years ago
The politely point it out bit I get... But if they're looking for someone who just eats the food doesn't that suggest they want someone who will just accept their 'mistakes'?
David L. 2 years ago
Agreed… I would take someone just eating the food as a potential red flag that they’re going to go along with whatever instead of stepping up and challenging bad decisions. Although it would be tough to know if they were eating the food because they were afraid to speak up or if they happily thought, “This isn’t what I’d planned, but it looks good so I’ll take it!”
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Rinso the Red 2 years ago
If you're looking for people with absolutely no will of their own. Not saying you should cause a scene, but to just take what was given is a loser move.
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Jen 2 years ago
That is why you politely inform of your allergies beforehand. Even a planned screw up wouldnt go so far as to poison someone, the liability on the restaurant would be too high. There are plenty of other ways to mess things up besides introducing a known allergen.
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Boss Lady 2 years ago
I understand the intent. But the candidate should know they got insight into the boss's character, too. Are they informed of the "test" afterwards to determine if they understand and appreciate, or not, being tested? Do they get a trial run of the boss's character regarding work-related issues?
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Josh Carpenter 2 years ago
Nope. I interview your company once. If you can't sell the position I'm applying for in a single interview, I already know I don't want to work there. If my wages are somehow more complicated than 'X amount deposited every Y weeks', it's also a hard no. Idc what minimum wage is, it's embarrassing in this country and far below cost of living everywhere. I'm here because living costs, I'm not going to take a job that only partially covers that and ties me up so I can't go somewhere else, and also 'rewards' the company by being their stooge. Companies are all showing record breaking profits, bonuses and salaries high enough to cover dozens of regular people's annual pay, but you expect me to slave here for 10+hrs a day to survive on ramen and government assistance while the news paints ME as the problem in this scenario.
The Starsong Princess 2 years ago
Fine if we’re hiring you to work in the cafeteria at $15 per hour. If we’re hiring you to manage a team of ten people and make $100,000+, expect a few interviews and some complexity.
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Sandy Parker 2 years ago
I had so many companies string me along just to hire within. It was truly bull s**t
Lisa H 2 years ago
Also when you apply for a promotion with the company you work for and they string you along for months just to give the position to an outside hire, especially if said outside hire isn't even qualified.
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JOHN DOE 2 years ago
None of these folks have ever dealt with trying to get rid of a bad employee. Once you go thru that nightmare, you convince yourself the more interviews the lesser chance of another. The problem is you never actually know if that is a good strategy. If an employee shows up on time and does their work they are very hard to fire even if they are phycotic. Not dissing mental health but you can't have an employee in the tax threaten to tell taxing jurisdictions there is massive fraud at the company. There wasn't and after she was fired for threatening upper management she went from state to state making accusations. It costs a lot of money to defend baseless fraud claims. And as much as no one wanted to, we ended up settling with her to make it stop. The worse thing was she genuinely believed it. She moved across the country because she thought our company was going to kill her. So yes we changed the interview process to try and weed out a repeat.
Jus Frpn 2 years ago (edited)
Cover letters I agree with. Assessment nots so much. For some jobs, especially in tech, they are necessary. I have list count if how many developers, QA and tech writers claim they have a great skill set then fail miserably at the assessments. 2 to 3 interviews is fine as long as done quickly....again, in tech it helps ferret out a lot of people that lie about qualifications.
Maltaros 2 years ago
However, too many companies put you through "personality assessment tests" which don't even have a valid basis other than somebody convinced them they are worthwhile because they can then charge for "interpreting" them.
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Larissa Parisien 2 years ago
Assessments matter because candidates inflate or flat out lie about thier skillset
The Starsong Princess 2 years ago
The number of interviews and cover letters/assessments should be in line with the pay and level of responsibility of the job. If this is a senior level job where you are paid a lot of money and are responsible for managing our people, then more than one interview is required to determine if you are suitable. It’s inconvenient for you but you’ll find it a lot more inconvenient if you quit your current job for this one and we let you go after a few weeks because you can’t do the job. We do our due diligence.
Andie Casey 2 years ago
Add supplemental questions to this list. And maybe it's just me, but the jobs that required the most of these always paid the least.
Candice Cook 2 years ago
I saw a post earlier and they mentioned they'd already completed 6 rounds of interviews and I was thinking, "no way". If they don't hire me after meeting me face-to-face I'm going to assume they are not interested and probably not a place I want to work. I'm not jumping through hoops to work for anyone. Either I'm qualified and you want to hire me or you don't.
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Jalav BlackPhoenix 2 years ago
If I am already a butterfly why would I go back to caterpillar? As if that was even possible
Thegoodboi 2 years ago
I can open doors. Doorknob might be chewed up but they're easily replaced!
Amy Beckler 2 years ago
Weeell then...that ain't no caterpillar... although it Will be caterpillar wages.
Forbes magazine breaks down some advice for interviewees. It’s important to ultimately present yourself as professional. So talking down your previous boss or manager is off the table, even if they 100% deserve it. If questioned about your hobbies, maybe don’t say you mostly drink beer and watch basketball. By no means lie, being genuine is still pretty important. But don’t fall into the trap of saying everything you feel right off the bat.
Unfortunately, this is a prime reason why a lot of us grit our teeth at the idea of sitting down for a work interview. Because there is nothing intrinsically wrong with enjoying a glass or wine or a beer in your free time. And who doesn’t like lounging around on the couch?
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Sonja 2 years ago
I have a very sketchy and winded CV. I was always grateful to have the option of a cover letter to put it into perspective and spin it positively. I get why people don't like them, but if done right, they can be really beneficial for the applicant too
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Mabelbabel 2 years ago (edited)
I currently work part time with really flexible hours, so I applied for another part time role-it was as an inspector for a government organisation. The advert said "email a CV, names of 3 referees with cover letter to this address.' So I did. A week later, I got an email back saying "thank you for your interest, please could you forward a cover letter, name of 3 referees and up to date CV to this address" I emailed back saying I'd already sent them CV, referees and cover letter. Oh no, they said, they could only accept CVs and cover letters once I'd been officially responded to, so even though the advert clearly said "Send CV etc" it wasn't an official invitation to send a CV, so any CVs received purely because of the advert were discarded. Absolute shambles of an application process, the thought of working for that shower of shite put me right off, so I didn't bother sending any more, life's too short to work for idiots.
Marilyn Russell 2 years ago
I do dislike writing them because it’s hard to sell yourself but I get why they are helpful to potential employers to summarize how you would be a good fit for their position and organization.
Jonn Thundergun 2 years ago
I've never used a cover letter. Also never had an issue finding employment in my field. That's just my experience though.
Peter 2 years ago
As an employer I want the cv to show me factual stuff about your past employment, qualifications etc. The cover letter is key as it's your chance to show why you as a person are a good fit for the role rather than merely having the required background. But if you're the kind of person that would be put off by the requirement for a cover letter then I think that's equally enough for me to make a decision
Jen 2 years ago
I always include what drew me to the organization and how I see myself fitting into thier mission. It requires research into each organization beforehand but as Ive mostly only worked for nonprofits, if you dont agree with the mission you will not do well and better to know before applying. And cover letters can be so much more personal to the job than a resume which is created once and only updated with changes in your work, not for each application.
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David L. 2 years ago
I hear a lot of proud martyrdom stories… “We worked through our lunch break!” “I made my team stick around while everyone else went home.” Just heard at 4:30 on a Friday… one person say, “Hopefully this is your last meeting and you can get to the weekend after this” and someone replied proudly, “For us, we’re only about halfway through our workday!” (Note: it wasn’t a shift, just someone proud of the fact that their salaried team was working super long days, even late into Friday evenings). This isn’t healthy and doesn’t drive sustainable success.
DumYum 2 years ago
This is how I worked for years. But I did get ahead without a degree.
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Mabelbabel 2 years ago
Long hours don't equate to increased efficiency, productivity , success rates or any other positive outcome. Just because someone is doing multiple extra hours a werk, that doesnt mean they're a better worker, or more loyal to the company. They may well be highly inefficient and time wasting, and need those extra hours to do what another worker can do in a shorter time. And regularly doing multiple extra hours is bad for your mental health. You work more efficiently when you're properly rested and have a stable work life balance. Happy workers are better workers.
Shelly Anderson 2 years ago
I'm a Canadian who worked in the USA for 15 yrs. I was appalled at how many Americans told me they'd not had a vacation for years and were proud of it!
Jen 2 years ago
I do 2 extra long days (11 hours minus 30 min lunch) so that my Friday is only 4 hours. I max out at 40 a week and 2 days the schools I go into start 2 hours before our office opens and I stay until close (all the kids are picked up from afterschool) so that I can just do my in school program on Friday and then do all my errands on my way home when stores are still pretty empty with most people at work. I get home at the same time, but I dont have to get dressed or leave the house if I dont want to on Saturday (and the personal errands need to be done regardless so why not benefit from doing them during the typical workday).
Icecream Sarang 2 years ago (edited)
She says as she’s sitting in the conference room waiting to drive back to her office an hour away and an hour after work
meowi.anne 2 years ago
I've never seen long hours glamorized. But I'm a nurse so they come with the territory I suppose.
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Anyone-for-tea? 2 years ago
Are they allowed to ask this as I have a huge gap now due to illness which I thought they couldn’t delve into?
Josh Carpenter 2 years ago
I'm coming back from 7 years off after breaking my spine in a rollover. I answer questions like this as 'i was investing my time in other pursuits'. My private life is none of their business. I'm selling them 40hrs of my time for money, nothing more. I like what I do and all, but not enough to have that be my life focus.
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C Cat 2 years ago
Both are valid questions. Candidate should know if they're filling a new position or someone left or the company is growing. Interviewer should be okay with the reason for the gap: illness, okay; travel, hey cool; hiding from the law? Might need to be a very open-minded company.
Doug 2 years ago
Gaps in resumes should be explained. And, without being a jerk about it, asking why the position is currently vacant should be a question you ask them. Assuming you're interviewing with the hiring manager, I also recommend asking when the last time one of their team members got a promotion.
Brocken Blue 2 years ago
Why though? I’m genuinely asking. Like, what does it matter if someone took time away from working to have a kid, or get treatment for addiction, being sick or taking a long sabbatical. Like… how does a past period of time like that matter to a future employer. Surely they should only care about whether you can do the work they’re hiring you for in the future?
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Linda T 2 years ago
I asked that and they lied. But after working there a while my coworkers gave me the gossip about why my job had a revolving door. 🚪
Load More Replies... There are actually a number of psychological impulses that cause us to overshare when we really shouldn't. Psychology Today talks about some positive and negative reasons people overshare. Sometimes we want the other person to feel comfortable. Awkward silences are painful, and after about four seconds, the average person will say anything to fill the space. Interestingly, some detectives use this psychological tidbit to get suspects to start talking. But even in a mundane setting, we desperately want to avoid silence.
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Verona Bingham 2 years ago
Wow a decent human in the corporate world & from his position too ! Amazing person, well done Sir!
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Sonja 2 years ago
This is reasonable for a well defined and reasonable time frame, like, would you like that new title and pay bump? Do this extra tasks for two weeks, then we'll evaluate, and if it works out you get it and if not you go back to your former position and tasks. That's reasonable. But if they're not willing to give you specifics, a firm time frame and clear expectations, and all in writing too, it's just a carrot you'll never get.
CrazyKnitter 2 years ago
On the other hand, I had a coworker promised a management position, he worked his a*s off and would have been great at it. Instead they brought in someone else, and it turned out that they were never going to promote him. He quit and the new manager was an a*****e who drove a bunch of people to quit as well.
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Kate Jones 2 years ago (edited)
Something that really bothers me is now employers aren't giving people an option to turn down a promotion. The job I have is pretty stressful and I really don't want to go any higher. I don't want more hours or to have to do certain requirements of that promotion. It's not about the money. I understand if I get capped out at a certain pay rate. I never take a job unless I can live off of the entry level pay. Everything more than that is just put into savings. But my job doesn't allow for that. You have to continue to do more or they get rid of you. Not everyone wants to make more money. I had a job making a lot of money and I was miserable which is why I stepped down and came to work here. Now I'm back in a position of being forced to work more hours or take on more stress. It's not right.
FABULOUS1 2 years ago
In my current position they have only 3 people dealing with request from our account mgmt team. I was one of those people, until 6 months ago when they moved me off and promoted 3 people above me. When any of those 3 people are out I have to do their job but not at the higher pay they receive, I am required to help train new people with out the additional pay these 3 receive for doing the same thing. They dont ask us, they just volunteer us for additional duties other people are getting paid more to do. I hate my job.
D. Richard 2 years ago
“A lot more work you know. A lot more responsibility. Long long hours. Not much more money. But you'll finally get the recognition you deserve.”
Celtic Pirate Queen 2 years ago
Was told I was going to be made Executive Assistant to the Vice President. He was a great guy and we worked really well together. It was basically the job I was already doing, so I said if there's no raise involved you can just keep the BS title. Yeah, nice try but flattery does not get you everywhere.
Niki Munster 2 years ago
I work hard and have a very good work ethic, as well as leadership skills. I have found that being the best at my job will earn me the management role, but when I do it for base crew prices, I never actually get the manager title or the manager pay, because I had already been doing the job for crew prices for so long. When I'd notice an ask for raises, I'd either be told no, or I'd be offered something between 10 and 20 cents. Basically, being an excellent employee means absolutely nothing and will get you absolutely nowhere. And then they wonder why people are doing the bare minimum, MAYBE.
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FlatEarf 2 years ago
Except sometimes tinder involves sex sooooo if you have fun interviews tell me where and if they are still hiring
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*24 hours later* "you said you could do all this!!" YOU said I wouldn't have to!!
Sonja 2 years ago
Only if you're ok with getting a shtty job or are desperate for any job. If you're actively looking for a better job than you already have, they're the chance to weed out bad workplaces by being polite but honest. Bad companies will weed themselves out by rejecting you for it. Of course that only works if you're already in a stable and halfway endurable job and looking for a better one. You can't afford it if you're unemployed or your job is horribly toxic
Dan Bexell 2 years ago
When an interviewer asks you what you think about Unions, stand up and walk out the door, cause it ain't gonna be a good place to work.
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I had an interview, said they start at $15/hr. I accepted the position and on my first day, they told me they never said that, and that it was $11/hr. I still managed to work for them for three days before it boiled up inside of me so much I quit with no warning. How dare they for real
All in all, these experiences also point to the all-too-common issue of workplace stress. It often feels like being between a rock and a hard place, deadlines, responsibilities and difficult managers on one side and the challenges of job seeking on the other. Common sense would dictate that stressed workers are unproductive workers and there is research to back this idea up. Research conducted by Tina Bui, M.D., Et al. found that tension and stress directly reduced workers effectiveness. Now if we could only get this study in front of every manager…
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Ali H M Salehuddin 2 years ago
You should be glad. Had you been hired, your expertise will mean nothing to them - you are a new hiree. As a consultant they'll listen to you.
Two_rolling_black_eyes 2 years ago
I worked for a company that did massive amounts of financial transactions for Fortune 100 companies. They forced a friend out who helped write the original COBOL scripts because she was getting older and new languages were better. Thing was, no one could write anything faster and more accurate in newer languages than that 40 year old script she did in COBOL and no one else knew COBOL. It was designed for one thing and its really good at it. She was a bit bitter but got her revenge. She'd get a panic phone call and agree to work for one day for her old annual salary. In the three years I was there after this happened, they paid her 17 times her annual salary after forcing her to retire a year early.
No Name No Pack Drill 2 years ago
Which tells everything that is wrong about management consulting
Péter Rózsahegyi 2 years ago
So they recruited somebody else, still they turn to a consulting firm. OP is lucky not winning the position.
Doug 2 years ago
And? I'm a consultant and there are many companies I consult into that I would not be a fit an employee. The role of an employee vs. that of a consultant are very different. Unless you're not really a consultant but rather a contract employee (i.e. body-shopped into what could otherwise be an employee role).
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Christof Irran 2 years ago
Well, it's not really the "Companies" - it's employees, managers who arrived in their current position via the Peter Principle, and really don't have the understanding of the dynamics (as outlined in the image above) or else lack the courage to explain it to someone above them who also arrived at their position via the Peter Principle. (From Wikipedia.org: "The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.")
Amy Beckler 2 years ago
When I had raged about No Common Sense regarding Corporate America-my very calm librarian friend gently admonished me-"But 😬, Sense isn't common".
But let’s not just think about managing stress as a way to be “more productive.” Stress is debilitating enough as is. Fortunately, there are a few things we can do. Researcher Kamaldeep Bhui, Et al. discovered what tends to help people deal with stress in general and in the workplace in particular. First and foremost, the support of friends and family is vital. Good coworkers are a close second. We are, after all, social animals.
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N Miller 2 years ago (edited)
Dear senior management, cc HR, Sometimes what's best for the company is having healthy, happy, well-paid employees who *want* to do what's best for the company.
Mike Armistead (Mike Armistead) 2 years ago
False. Well, not always true. I, too am a career HR professional at an insanely large corporation. I don't give a s**t what they think about most things. I've never let a policy or guideline get in the way of common sense or doing what's right. Many of my colleagues are the same way. HR isn't always the enemy. In some cases, we're the ones that can actually help. Maybe don't be a d**k to us right off the rip?
Phyzzi 2 years ago
I think it's important to remember that HR is often an asset if something is making you unhappy and will probably make other unhappy... if it's an actual problem with/in the workplace that will result in losses to the company, either tangible or intangible. Good HR will realize that they exist to make sure employees are able to get what they need to feel comfortable doing the job they are paid to do. However, HR always works for the company, not for the employees. If there's a point where the company specifically wants one thing and an employee or employees want another thing, and a compromise can't be reached, then HR is not on your side. I don't mean working around regulations, which depends on the HR, I mean actual overall misaligned goals, which will always be their job over your job.
Load More Replies... D Peterson 2 years ago
Remember anything you say to anyone in HR could end up in your written personel file.
michael piscopo 2 years ago
My buddy's wife is an RN who took up cocktail waitressing at the local casino part time - she ended up full time earning twice the RN rate of pay. She says " I love working with the public."
Michael Largey 2 years ago
This is wide-eyed gullibility. HR will always look out for HR's best interest, first, last, and always. Anything they do for anyone else is just a means to that end.
ButFirstCoffee 2 years ago
True. My former company prefered to protect an abusive manager (1-year in the company) who let an employee hit me instead of keeping me and my 13 years of expertise.
Glen Moore 2 years ago
I question why anyone actually needs to be informed of that, or that people get shocked when a cop uses what you say against you in the court of law, or they're shocked when a pack of wolves kills a fawn and eats it?
Sandy Parker 2 years ago
I told my best friend that - HR is not your friend no matter how much the company tells you otherwise
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JoAnn DeSousa 2 years ago
I've once mentioned that in my resignation later. "I expect to be paid my pending dues of salary and bonuses in full despite my notice" Was surprisingly effective
C.M. 2 years ago
Yes. It's a bonus, not part of your salary. Unless you had a contract that specifies that you retain your bonus, you'd better wait until it pays out before you quit
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I always resigned on a Friday (two weeks before I started my new job) effective immediately.
The Starsong Princess 2 years ago
Most companies, including mine, are very clear on when you need to be working in order to be paid a bonus, usually the date when the money is paid out. They also usually include “in good standing” to be paid so that might include not being in a notice period. In general, they have to pay you according to their written policies.
CanadianaKa 2 years ago
Lost my job the day before the bonuses were being announced (layoff due to a screw up by a manager who lost a shwack-ton of money on a series of mistakes). Everyone else got 5k. I got squat. I seriously considered suing but had thought I might want to stay in the industry and didn't want to burn a bridge. Yes, I'm a moron.
Andy Frobig 2 years ago
I'd had enough at my first long term job and decided to quit. I waited until our benefits recycled, and asked HR if I would still get my four weeks vacation if I put in my notice. I was told I would, so I put in my two weeks. Unfortunately I didn't get any of my 190 hours of sick time, and I wouldn't be paid for calling out between giving notice and leaving. I never got a bonus there in 9½ years.
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Milky Way Cookie 2 years ago
Yeah, don't work if you're not getting payed!! That time could be spent doing other important things!
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Timbob 2 years ago
Boss asked my coworker why he wasn’t putting in any overtime. Guy told him his wife didn’t want him working overtime. Boss said they didn’t hire his wife. Guy said he didn’t marry the company.
Icecream Sarang 2 years ago
I got a stern talking to for walking in at 7:55 and out at 5:05. Seems they felt hourly meant I should come in at 5 and leave at 8. Just because I’m salary doesn’t mean you pay me enough to work 15 hour days.
Wysteria_Rose 2 years ago
My boss stresses at times how our salary jobs may have days that go past 5. I'm understanding of that. However, if I am caught up on my work, know where I'm at, nothing is late or due the very next day, can be done the next day, I'm sure as heck leaving at 5. You wouldn't expect me to arrive an hour earlier for nothing.
Amy Beckler 2 years ago
I utterly burn myself out attempting to do "All the right stuff"in my 12hr. night shift. When you are in an occupation where actual caring used to be the prime responsibility? It's difficult to leave your compassion at the time clock.
LC Joyce 2 years ago
Are you a nurse? Because in my numerous recent hospital stays I always found the best , caring , most self assured, positive nurses were the ones who didn't kill themselves trying to get in to see me every hour on the hour, struggling to fill in the busy work cells on my excel patient page. If Im sleeping well, and I don't have a blood pressure, temperature issue, let me sleep.
Load More Replies... D Peterson 2 years ago
Working off the clock or not taking paid days is for suckers! I know because I was one.
Jen 2 years ago
You walk faster than me. Unless Im on last child duty and closing the building, my computer gets shut at my end time and I start leaving my office. Im out the door in 2 minutes in warm weather, 5 when I have 3 layers to put on to not feeeze to death on my walk to my car. On last child days Im ready to go, including coat in hand (scarf etc on) 10 - 15 minutes before parents would start being charged late charges and with the remaining kids in the lobby with the rest of the building closed down. That way I can shut off the main computer (need it yo check IDs if they dont have the pick up card we give them with them) as the last child walks out the door, toss my coat on, hit the last light switch and arm the building right behind them.
Load More Replies...Physical health is second. Now, not everyone needs a personal trainer and to get shredded in three months. Just a good balance of nutrition and simple exercise like yoga can help reduce tension. Keeping your mind engaged is important too. Hobbies and other activities were found to have a very positive effect on stress levels. So If you ever even start feeling guilty about a personal project, just know that science says you should do it.
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Precious Cooper 2 years ago
I don't know why, but this reply is cracking me up!
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Matt Smith 2 years ago
So, they decided to respond to negative reviews by....proving them right?
Blarrg 2 years ago
If it were a few bad reviews I would want to hear them out, get both sides of the story. I've worked for great small companies that had problematic reviews.
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Marcus Lynch 2 years ago
Have not eaten there even once because of this unfortunately true statement.
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Kate Jones 2 years ago (edited)
I agree, honestly. Working at a bank I've lost empathy. I see how people spend their money. And the people who are truly having a hard time, not due to their own bad behavior, are the first ones we really do want to help and sometimes can't. Nothing drives me more crazy than someone who calls and cries about how their a single mother of 4 and she can't afford groceries and that's why she wants 6 fees back. And I look and see in the past month she's spent 900 at Neiman Marcus and gets doordash every other day. That's your own bad money decisions. Look at your kids and remember this feeling the next time you just *have* to have a 600 dollar purse.
tl gmc 2 years ago
One thing I love when doing reverse mortgages is that we can save someone from foreclosure. These are not for everyone, but a struggling senior that has a lot of equity and mortgage latest can do this to not surrender the house to the bank.
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️️Upvote faery️ 2 years ago (edited)
Wow. That's cold. And I get that this attitude is probably best (🤕☹️) for this kind of job, but are we really even human anymore at this point? I know; tears really don't help. They are not going to fix anything for you, you have to put in the work for yourself, yes I agree. What I've heard from debt collection is that they often don't, or are not able to, help you come up with a repayment plan, if you are not working but still searching for a full time job and simply not finding one that pays enough. In my case, I make more money on employment insurance than I would make if I worked for $20/hour at 40 hours per week, and that is barely enough to cover rent, car, etc. So it's not easy to find a job that will pay enough.
tl gmc 2 years ago
It depends on what and how they were spending. If you ever see someone making and wasting 300k in 1 year you don't feel bad when you can't help that person. Now if someone's really struggling and working 2 jobs you'd try to do all you can to help
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Kioh81 2 years ago
Vodka! Helps with those Siberian cold snaps and tears of thy enemies. lol
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Bruce B 2 years ago
As a former agent for a debt collection department, tears just slow the call down and make us feel like monsters. I couldn’t handle calling people whose spouse passed away and they have no funds to pay anything and the company would “rake us over the coals” (punish us) for not setting up some kind of repayment plan before disconnecting the call. I quit after 3 months. I just couldn’t take feeling like that monster/getting cussed out for doing my job. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“You know what would really solve my stress? More pay,” you might be thinking. And you would be absolutely correct. Now try saying it out loud. Seriously. It might not get you the money, but similar to a lot of the confessions here, honesty actually has legitimate psychological benefits. Bonnie M.Le, et al. found that just saying what you think and feel helps with self-acceptance and lowers your risk of depression. So maybe don’t shout it out in the office, but definitely shout it out somewhere.
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Daniel Moyer 2 years ago
But the dog walking around in the background made you look like an idiot!
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Will Cable 2 years ago
Use the pen and for filling out applications and hthe mints for interview.........then on leaving give your old company a gift, a turd in a box for all the times they treated you like s**t
Shaunn Munn 2 years ago
Don't send s**t. It can actually be considered battery assault, your DNA is in that s**t and it can be analyzed.
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Just Another Girl 2 years ago
They were thanking you for your….wait for it……commitMINT to their company. WHAhahahaha
Christopher DiOrio 2 years ago
What an ungrateful wretch! I got a little plaque with a quote from the company founder, and I was glad for that! and I had to walk to work. In the snow. Uphill! Both ways.
Serenity Now! 2 years ago
LOL! I got a key chain after working 10 years. I would've rather had the money that the key chain was worth.
tw 72 2 years ago
"We can't afford anything else" as the entire executive layer makes millions and millions
Load More Replies... Lydia 2 years ago
They can't have treated them that badly, or they wouldn't have stayed for 5 years. In our country, getting any gift for staying ... years isn't normal for that few years. But still, better no gift though, than such a crappy one. Pay as agreed upon, be friendly, and care for us like normal people and we'll be happy to stay :)
FlatEarf 2 years ago
Ok if you stayed for 5 years you probably weren't being paid terrible otherwise you would have been looking for better pay already. But 5 years isn't that much really. Can't expect whatever you want as a gift from your company, 2 questions I'd like answered, were you expecting a bit gift? And how cool is the pen 1-10?
TheStar Thief 2 years ago (edited)
My coworker got a snack size bag of m&ms for 25 years of service
Ruth Kilpatrick 2 years ago
My son got a $5 dollar Starbucks gift card for his 5th anniversary with his company.
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Michael Largey 2 years ago
Sounds like crazy no matter where she started.
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Snorkeldorf 2 years ago (edited)
Interviewed at a medical insurance company years ago. During the interview the woman explained that she started the company "marathons." I thought she meant races, but she went further. She stated that on a quarterly basis her department would work after hours on a Friday into Saturday to stay on top of claims. No overtime. She also said there would be some additional late hours. Because it was downtown, I asked about security escorting us out to our cars if it was late. She said "no", we are considered adults that can take care of themselves. I noped out of that one.
Rick Seiden 2 years ago
I would have said to her, "That's your first demerit, and I leave after the first demerit."
Blarrg 2 years ago
What's too bad is that she probably thinks it's working for her. She figures she let the candidate know they have high expectations, the candidate says "Yeah, I'm out," and she congratulates herself for weeding out someone who doesn't want to be held accountable to expectations. Both parties come away thinking they dodged the bullet.
Tim Sireno 2 years ago
That tells me they basically thought their employee's were their prisoners. So your response was the best one.
Key Martin 2 years ago
"Oh! I thought this was a job for humans, not circus animals. My apologies. Since I'm not a circus animal, I'm not interested in working here."
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IcyPenguinToes 2 years ago
I'm not surprised by the stupidity of this, but I am super surprised that they actually heard back from the potential employer at all! And with (seemingly?) constructive feedback too? Seems like a myth lol
DC 2 years ago
That, often, is beyond me. Some years ago, 2018, I applied for a job. Got invited, they'll cover transportation. Ok, booked ... then, he got sick. Ok, rebooked, ew date, all in all it was some 440 € of traveling. Interview went pretty fine I think. They paid me back within a day. Ok, we agreed on that ... but that was the last I heard.
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Fergus Corgi 2 years ago
I wouldn't want to work for anyone who didn't know that someone getting a PhD in Mathematics has had a lot more than one 3 hr calculus course anyway.
Cat Palmer 2 years ago
I used to work for a university. We got a asked to confirm the qualifications of a previous student, including a request for clarification of what "PhD" stood for. We told them "doctor of philosophy". They were furious because they wanted an expert in mathematics, not a philosopher. I don't think we ever did manage to persuade them they had misunderstood!
CanadianDimes 2 years ago (edited)
I have a friend whose application to do an undergraduate degree in engineering was rejected because he didn’t have the math qualifications. He has a PhD in math from the university that rejected the engineering application.
Doug 2 years ago
Some companies get 100s of resumes for a position and they have to use either an automated system or low-skilled staff to do the first round of filtering on all of those. And that means a hard set of rules to gauge by and little-to-no understanding of what really matters. And while this means they might miss out on some excellent candidates, the number of resumes coming in to necessitate this process means they probably still have enough excellent candidates getting through. So it's on you to make sure you make those cuts and tweak your resume to hit EVERY. SINGLE. POINT. in the job description.
Jen 2 years ago
You have no control at the time of application over what is on your COLLEGE TRANSCRIPT. The college sends it directly, and it is set by what you took while there. This has no bearing on what someone includes in thier resume. And if they are asking for transcripts you are beyond the initial resume stage and it should be a far more qualified person looking at it who should understand a PhD in math is far superior to undergrad calculus classes.
Load More Replies... Jay Cee 1 year ago (edited)
I worked with an engineer who was turned down for a job. He asked why, for future reference. "The successful candidate had a science degree (BSc in UK) from Sheffield University, you have an Arts degree from Canterbury" He responded: "I have a BA from CAMBRIDGE . . . BA Cantab . . ."Cantab" is the Latin abbreviation for Cambridge which only grants Bachelor of Arts degrees, not BScs. You didn't read my CV did you?"
James Arvidson 2 years ago
Shows the competency of some of the staff. I had a company do a background check. I have several Bachelors degrees and a Masters but they could not find my HS diploma. I had to teach them how to look them up on a national online service. And this was not a job requiring a security clearance which I also held at the time.
James Arvidson 2 years ago
Most of those. Type of workers just blindly check the boxes.
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C Cat 2 years ago
What a sad world we live in when appropriate compensation is so unexpected and delightful that people have medical emergencies due to their physical reaction...
CHRISTY SMITH 2 years ago
I doubt this actually happened - the offering $30K above asking price is a dead giveaway.
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Lyyyy 2 years ago
The thing about heart attacks is that they are a long time coming and when something triggers it, it doesn’t mean that the trigger caused it. It would’ve happened anyway. The only thing that usually improves the chances of survival is, that when it happens, you are in a situation where help can be received fast, and even that doesn’t always help.
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Karen Tyas 2 years ago
Oh I’ve had better “On Fridays you can wear jeans for $5 that’s a vague donation we know you’ll never check up on!”
Urbangirlatl 2 years ago
Right? You want me to pay you so I can wear a different kind of pants one day a week. And apparently this particular kind of pants are acceptable in this workplace one day a week (with payment) but are forbidden the other4 days of the week. Mkay.
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Jessi Stofa 2 years ago
You can get those jeans from a store for like 5$ and you realize there from the same store
Tim Sireno 2 years ago
I remember how at one one company I used to work for, I had the CEO get upset with me for wearing -Black Jeans- on casual Friday. (He insisted I should be wearing dockers and of course, had no problem with his AA wearing a spandex microskirt - IMHO the man had a cr*p-ton of toxic masculinity...)
Ivan Petrov 2 years ago
Better life - yes, but we want better profits. Good suggestions - you're getting none of them.
Amanda Rose 2 years ago
Worked for a place that would let you eat your lunch at your desk IF you worked through lunch. They also had a $5 per check (10-15 per month) donation that let you be allowed to wear jeans. We were a call center and never saw the customers
Ivana Bašić 2 years ago (edited)
Oh, sweetie, you have to give me more to make up for me being unable to wear jeans the rest of the week. Or leggings ever.
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Michael Largey 2 years ago
If they want one after two, tell them "Fine, but the next interview will be at my place. I'll let you know when it's good for you to come over."
Load More Replies... Two_rolling_black_eyes 2 years ago
I "interviewed" for a company as a freelancer where they kept giving me code tests. The 4th one included code I had written for the first one. It took me too long to realize I was doing the job I was applying for free and they never intended to hire someone. I posted the the story and the link to code in github on their glassdoor. I didn''t work for them and there was no NDA. If my work was done for free, anyone should be able to use it then. They were not happy. Needless to say, I didn't get the job but the github entry helped me land work in the same field.
Serenity Now! 2 years ago
They were placing bets on how many times you'd come in for an interview.
Garritt VS 2 years ago
THREE interviews is my absolute max. And each successive interviewer has to be a higher ranked person than the previous interviewer. As the person being interviewed, it's up to you to say "Stop. What EXACTLY are you looking for that I haven't ALREADY said? Because if the next (fourth) interview isn't adding anything about me, it's saying you have some sort of politics in play that I don't need to be part of." The best companies I have worked for had two interviews max.
Jen 2 years ago
When teaching Ive done 3 where the first was with all the principals in the district looking for teachers (or the board at a private school), the second was presenting a lesson to one of the classes in the school (grade for the private school) that the teacher had for me to select from - so the kids, classroom teacher and principal of just that building who was watching were the interviewers (those always included a debrief with just the teacher and principal after) and the final was a focus group of teachers and parents from the specific building to find out if I fit with thier group. So depending on industry going from higher to lower ranked people can be better.
Load More Replies... Michael Largey 2 years ago (edited)
The purpose of 17 interviews is to gauge how willing you are to be taken advantage of as an employee and how much unpaid time they can steal from you.
Michael Largey 2 years ago
And what is not getting done at that company while management is sitting doing those interviews?
Mimi777 2 years ago
I had a friend that had to fly to a different state twice two hours away to do the last 2 interviews. She had to take time off, pay someone to watch her kid, and also feed her dog and let him out. She didn’t get the job.
Keri Covington 2 years ago
I will not show up for more than one interview. They can get everybody who needs to be in on it present at the first. That'a a power ploy.
Doug 2 years ago (edited)
Really... 17? That's incredibly excessive, if real. Typically; for professional roles, you should expect a 15 minute with HR for fit (not everyone does this though), and in no particular order an interview with your potential manager, a technical interview with someone in the same career path, and perhaps an interview one or two with adjacent groups if you'll be dealing with them a lot (i.e. perhaps a sales team if you would also be supporting them or an executive if they're serious about fit or your new role is critical). Executive roles will have a few more, but those are more likely to be lunches or drinks to get to know you as a person while also running a wide range of ideas/strategies/scenarios by you before putting you in a high-level position.
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N Miller 2 years ago
Yes! An offer is the first step of a contract. If the offer is accepted, it should not be possible to rescind without penalty, because the contract is complete on acceptance. (Contracts don't have to be written).
Josiah Seguin 2 years ago
Playing devil's advocate here since I've been told multiple times we'd be getting a new hire starting in a week or whatever, then never shows for their first day. Would that work both ways? Person is hired, accepts the offer, then rescinds. Would that person be liable to the company?
Load More Replies... Michael Largey 2 years ago
A local ice cream shop offered its workers college scholarships if they worked the whole summer. Most did, but the owner decided to "use the money elsewhere". It made all the papers. Guess which ice cream shop didn't even make it through the next summer due to lack of business?
El Howard 2 years ago (edited)
Had a recruiting firm give me an offer I accepted, make sure I had submitted 2 week notice to my current position, then right before I was supposed to start the new position inform me, "Intel Finance department has not approved funding for this position. Can you just hang out (unpaid) a few weeks while we wait for funding?" Then they got real pissy with me for taking a different position at Intel that they didn't get a commission for. Showed up for the other position, they told me "Intel can't give you another laptop, we already issued you one" You know, for the position they didn't have funding for...
Christof Irran 2 years ago
May seem like a change of subject, but that's the function of the engagement ring - a potential cancellation fee. If the groom breaks off the engagement the ring remains the property of the bride. If she breaks off the engagement the ring goes back to the guy.
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ButFirstCoffee 2 years ago
I declined an offer for a position, as I am satisfied with the one I have now. I asked, out of curiosity, what the salary was. The recruiter said she won't say it by email, but would gladly schedule a call to discuss the opportunity. Seriously, let me know first if it's worth my time to speak to you. I work exclusively for money. No other reason.
Mike Armistead (Mike Armistead) 2 years ago
It is not a job seeker's market in Tech right now....
James Arvidson 2 years ago
Regardless of who has the upper hand it is just respectful of everyone's time. And stop messaging me about a franchise opportunity too.
Cathrine Linder 2 years ago
And how about including the name of the company? Why reveal it later and then be shocked if I’ve never heard of it or know nothing about it?
Alice Rodeo 2 years ago
Tell that upper hand nonsense to the 250,000 tech people out on the street.
Brant Wells 2 years ago
Even when it isn't a seeker's market, We still need to know so we don't waste our time... or yours.
Brant Wells 2 years ago
Even if it ain't a seekers market, I need to know the salary before hand so I don't waste my time or yours!
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Tomie Russom 2 years ago (edited)
I've been experiencing this very same issue. I'm applying for jobs that I've been doing the last 30 years. I get called for interviews, some of them require up to 3 of them, only to be ghosted. Not even a "thanks anyway but we've decided to go another way" email or call . Just... nothing. So frustrating.
Laura Daigle 2 years ago
Mine was because of a terrible reference from a former boss. Hired a company that recorded him doing this (and his "reference" was a pack of lies. Worked for him for over a decade - he was angry that I left). Sent it to corporate and threatened a lawsuit. Had a job offer within 10 DAYS. Have a friend call or hire aa company. Best $250 I ever spent.
Brandon Walker 2 years ago
Not getting interviews means your resume is bad, not getting offers means your interview skills need brushed up, just for help for those needing it, have a base resume, but change it a tiny bit for each application to make sure the words you use match the words they use
Sandy Parker 2 years ago
I looked for 9 months - applied all over the place. 200++ Saw so many head hunters. Finally - I had to go to a big company and proceeded to do nothing for a solid year. Got a nice promotion - no more $ of course, and COVID hit. My dream job landed in my lap the second year in and I could not quit fast enough. My manager was so pissed. Sorry - you're paying me s**t. BYE! And all that a*s kissing was just boredom.
Péter Rózsahegyi 2 years ago
I think (from first-hand experience) if someone unsuccessfully applies for 200+ jobs, they may not be applying for jobs (s)he is qualified for. I mean if I have a degree from an online web development training, I will not be selected for the VP of Informatics for a bank.
PigSquatch 2 years ago
Degree in Computer Science applied for 20 jobs that specifically state remote not one call back or inquiry. No it is not an online degree and yes it is a very well known college. So I guess I am not qualified.
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Christopher Moran 2 years ago
They are getting ridiculous. Been out of work since October. I Applied for 46 jobs from October to December and only 2 interviews. A lot of waiting around
FlatEarf 2 years ago
Theh actually had it in their name: Rhonda "Likes it Rough" Timothy
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Glen Moore 2 years ago
And it goes for everything in life not just employment
Load More Replies... michael piscopo 2 years ago (edited)
yeah, most of our leaders are just as flawed, it's a wonder we progress at all. In the nursing environment they hire managers from the nursing staff: lead nurse, charge nurse, director of nursing.... none of them have any managerial skills. Few are happy with their jobs as it took them away from patient care, which is why they became nurses.
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Jessi Stofa 2 years ago
have the people think there f**ken perfect but we all know there just trying to show off
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ColdSteelRonin 2 years ago
A job is nothing more than a vehicle to transport you to a destination and like any vehicle when it is no longer reliable or the maintenance cost becomes too high it is time to get another
Two_rolling_black_eyes 2 years ago
My first job after grad school was the one I dreamed of having growing up. I worked for the museum that inspired me to become a biologist. I've changed entire professions multiple times since then. Its fine to go for a dream job. Just love yourself to find another dream.
The Other Other White Meat 2 years ago
I never wanted to work. I wanted to be a pretty little farmer girl with lots of cows, and cats, and dogs, and maybe an alpaca.
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Kate Jones 2 years ago
...and why would I ever want to work for someone I once gave a lap dance to?
Christof Irran 2 years ago
Insurance companies (in the U.S.) don't pay well at all.
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Christof Irran 2 years ago
During a Zoom meeting early in my WFH days I said, just for fun, that whoever schedules a meeting for Monday or Friday is probably a communist. They all chuckled a bit, and I said "Just kidding!" But there were waaayyyy fewer meetings during Mondays or Fridays after that.
Nicola Roberts 2 years ago
I went to a job interview in Accounts at 5.30pm on a Friday evening. The department was very busy. I knew there and then this wasn't the job for me.
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El Howard 2 years ago
No. I learned early on that working more than 12 hours a day is a definite NOPE! Your error rate goes way up, so you're just not productive. And I definitely don't want sleep deprived losers caring for my newborn!
Rosemary Booth 2 years ago
Earlier than 7 am? To me, the only thing that comes before 7 am is yesterday.
Alexej Dvorak 2 years ago
Newborns are commonly pre-med school. Not sure why they felt the need to mention that specifically (:
The Captain 2 years ago
Was this work once to cover or this is your new shift. If you wouldn't help for 1 shift then the newborns are better off without you. If it is your new shift then say no. You can't be forced to work that many hours.
michael piscopo 2 years ago
I worked healthcare as a critical care RT for a decade or so with two jobs ( 3 - 12 hours shifts paid for 40) full benefits.
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Kioh81 2 years ago
This is a thing in the banking industry. My ex had a huge problem with it bc he was Costa Rican but had a "white" last name. When he showed up with several degrees and lots of experience, they were surprised when he walked in. He got the job, but during his time there said he watched them overlook applications that had a minority "type" last name even if they had the same qualifications as other people. Not trying to be mean but don't be naïve, profiling unfortunately is still an issue and when you live in an area that has less minorities, it can be a bigger struggle to fight for what you are qualified for or deserve.
Anyone-for-tea? 2 years ago
That’s awful, hopefully this is an old post? I thought they had to take your name off when they looked through them now?
Rick Seiden 2 years ago
I've conducted interviews in the past six months. When looking at candidates to decide who gets an interview they did not remove the names before they sent them to me. I knew everyone's names.
Load More Replies... Doug 2 years ago
There's a lot of evidence for this. Numerous studies have been done sending identical resumes with different names out and the results are always disheartening. It's sad, but very true. It impacts various ethnic groups more than others. But it also impacts kids with unfortunate names (i.e. if some hippy names their kid "Jupiter" or something, they're just not going to get as many chances).
Jk 2 years ago
To be fair, they could have looked at the resume, saw there were two identical ones, and tossed one out because someone submitted twice. They might not have even looked at the name.
Richard Liles 2 years ago
Are you seriously that naive......??? You know damn right and well in this world that's not what happened!
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Doug 2 years ago
There's also a lot of evidence that those that leave their jobs every 5-7 years end up making quite a bit more money. The cost to steal you is greater than annual increases, unless you are quite savvy with how you approach this. Well... you don't even have to be quire savvy... just most people say "I want a raise" without understanding the budget cycle and how to lay proper groundwork for one... then get mad at the employer (eye roll).
Nicola Roberts 2 years ago
It's also important not to burn bridges. You may absolutely hate something about the job but you never know if your path will cross again in the future.
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Mother of Giants 2 years ago (edited)
Went thru this exact scenario a couple years ago. They hired 2 rounds of newbies for more than my team and I were making and we been there an average of 7 years with one lady who had 29 years seniority. And management had a super surprised Pikachu face when we all walked en masse. They lost 15 amazing employees that day and have been continuing that downhill slide ever since. They once had a full time staff of 147 across 3 shifts now they only have 42 and had to completely shut down the overnight shift. When management finally gives up and leaves I wanna be on the front lawn in a chair with a bowl of popcorn watching that walk of shame.
Sonja 2 years ago (edited)
I found a unicorn. My employer does annual evaluations. They are honest and fair. When you underperform, you get an improvement plan, if you perform well, you get the minimum raise for cost of living, if you exceed expectations you get a raise depending on the impact your work had. I had my first evaluation last December. I exceeded expectations. I got the maximum raise of 10% without a fight. They just offered me that. I was prepared for hard negotiations and bargaining, I then felt as if I was running towards a door to crash it open and someone just opened it before the impact, like in a cartoon. It took me several weeks to recover from that. It was unreal O.o
Geoffrey Scott 2 years ago
Just quit anyway, if they are that clueless about retaining talent, they don't deserve you.
Richard Liles 2 years ago
I had to. I was top performer and getting bonuses based on that. However it didn't come close to what the new hires were getting. I asked, they declined, I moved on
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Sonja 2 years ago
We are in a recession, but don't believe in their lies it's because of wages and too many employees
Mike Armistead (Mike Armistead) 2 years ago
Guess what? Almost half the recruiters at my insanely large corporation have been laid off. Guess we're in that recession after all.
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Xenia Harley 2 years ago
Yup, I had to call my college and get official transcripts sent to prove I had a Masters. For a part time $20 an hour job! I was in my 50's when I got this job, they asked me some years later. I had taught for 30 + years as a teacher, and had retired from that.
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HIROX 2 years ago
Pro tip. Create a section in OneNote or your choice of text doc. And put in a quick note of what you did as you complete it. Example you finish a project make a note. Finish a certification make a note. And capture some of the facts like how much money this saved or how many people the thing will effect. Some sort of metric. Then when resume time comes or performance reviews or reward time. You have half your work done already. External brain for the win.
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Thomas Bentley 2 years ago
Nah, drug dealers have much more work experience, and know how to keep people happy. They need to be in HR, they would do a much better job than being wasted on a management position. Their talents would be wasted when trying to get people to work harder.
Kioh81 2 years ago
Hahahahaha this made me chuckle a lot. Sadly bc it's probably true but it was still funny!
Load More Replies... Kate Jones 2 years ago
I mean, I suppose employees would definitely do their jobs better if they thought their families might get killed in retaliation. 1 tardy= threatening your gramma. 2 tardies = shanked in the leg. 3 tardies and you get buried in the desert.
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El Howard 2 years ago
Hilarious,,, but totally not appropriate to submit to hiring managers. Pretty sure this was just done as a joke.
tw 72 2 years ago
As per resume, "I will definitely bring aaaaall my personal issues to work." Big nope.
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Blair L 2 years ago
Pretty sure that's Natalie's resume. "Natalie's Ex-husband " is in the employer name field (like "Bright Spot LTD"), not the title of the position.
Jossh Nine 2 years ago
Not Natalie's resume...."Moved furniture to HER new house".
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Otto Katz 2 years ago
I had an emergency appendectomy just before Thanksgiving a couple years ago, had to file paperwork to get paid for the time off. The form wanted to know why I didn't apply for the time off ahead of time. They were VERY upset with me for not applying ahead of time. For an emergency appendectomy.
KMill 2 years ago
I was rushed to the hospital when I went into preterm labor. I let my team know but my boss hadn’t bothered to arrive yet. The next day, while I was in the middle of having an emergency c-section, my boss emails me demanding to know why I hadn’t called out for that day and that it is expected of me to call out for every day I am unable to work. I broke down in tears when I was finally able to check emails several days later. Some people aren’t meant to be managers.
White Sauce Hot Sauce 2 years ago
This was actually my comment on Instagram that they made as a post. Nice to see I made it to BP.
michael piscopo 2 years ago
No employer gives a 2 week notice. I return the favor: "Please be aware I will no longer be in your employ effective immediately." Late Friday afternoons are the best.
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Rebecca Watkins 2 years ago
Wow, trashing resumes because people want to support their trans/non-binary friends or are, themselves, trans or non-binary. Yeah, sure, you"don't care about their identity". No one believes you.
Dodo 2 years ago
Yeah, working with someone who respects diversity and makes an effort to make others feel alright must be awful 😑
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SlothyK8 2 years ago
My employer requires pronouns be listed in email signatures and all applications that have a profile (i.e. Teams, WebEx, Slack, etc.). People think that this is an LGBTQ+ thing, but it's also super helpful working with off-shore teams (as I do) where names are unfamiliar.
D. Richard 2 years ago
That’s a great point! I work with a lot of people globally and this would be very helpful for many cases where I’m unfamiliar with the names.
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D. Richard 2 years ago
Not a bad idea to include them. If the hiring manager is offended enough by you including your personal pronouns, they’re probably not someone you’d want to work for and better to find out now rather than months after working there.
Charlotte 2 years ago
People obviously don't know what pronouns are... the word 'I' is a pronoun. So if they're throwing away anything with a pronoun, they're throwing away 99% of resumes... which I'd rather stupid.
Charlotte 2 years ago
Is*** naturally I'd have a typo on that particular comment lol
Load More Replies... Two_rolling_black_eyes 2 years ago
I don't understand why this is a big deal. I personally don't care what pronoun someone calls me but it matters to some. Its a minor thing that takes little effort so I will follow the new rule. I look at like the receipt at Starbucks. I don't need proof I bought a cup of coffee but it matters to someone else so I'll take my receipt gladly and move out of the line instead of making a fuss that I don't need it.
Mike Armistead (Mike Armistead) 2 years ago
I can almost guarantee this person isn't great to work for either...
Hollers 2 years ago
I upvoted but in my defense I was thinking more like this is so terrible and idiotic that it brought me some amusement, kind of like when I read r/insanepeoplefacebook on Reddit
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Heidi Laursen 2 years ago
They’re still hiring liberal arts degrees to write software. Tech is an industry where competence is enough.
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Nicole Weymann 2 years ago
Travel back in time, kick your own a**e and learn from it. "I wouldn't" doesn't sound like an emergency, it sounds like a spoiled brat. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Congratulations!
Gladys Hayes Southerland 2 years ago
You better buy her a gift & give her a fat raise or she won't be your best employee anymore
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DinosEatNoods 2 years ago
A former coworker of mine had this exact same issue. When he got closer to retirement, they forced him into early retirement and he couldn’t collect the full package. He waited all those years taking c**p and they screwed him in the end. Needless to say, I wasn’t shocked.
michael piscopo 2 years ago
There's no saying that work situation will exist at all into the future. Never suffer for a carrot on a stick. It's like a sex tease...
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White Sauce Hot Sauce 2 years ago
Having a sugar daddy is all fun and games until daddy wants some sugar.
Gladys Hayes Southerland 2 years ago
If you think Apple is possessive & controlling, quit until you get that sugar daddy
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Péter Rózsahegyi 2 years ago
And you will say: "Sorry, I can't think outside of the box anymore".
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Jus Frpn 2 years ago
People usually end up taking way less than on a standard PTO plan. Employers love it for that as well as the fact they no longer have to pay out accrued PTO, especially for long time employees, when they leave the company.
Two_rolling_black_eyes 2 years ago
Its a scam. You apply in April for 5 days of PTO after Christmas and another 5 days in August and its approved. You inform them in April you're taking off Fridays from the middle of October to the end of the year and they will tell you to f#$k off. Its the same number of days.
Load More Replies... D. Richard 2 years ago
My company has discussed this and I really hope they don’t. There are people who will absolutely take advantage of it and start taking 10 weeks a year, at which point I’m sure they’ll cap the “unlimited” amount. Others, like myself, would probably feel guilty about taking advantage and take even less than we do now.
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Péter Rózsahegyi 2 years ago
I don't think it's a good idea. While lifelong loyalty is not fashionable anymore, if, as an employer, I saw that someone had 5 jobs in 4 years, I wouldn't want to be her/his next stop for a few months.
digitalin 2 years ago
Yeah, but this person now is "stuck" in a job making 185k instead of stuck in a job making 55k and building up loyalty.
Load More Replies... michael piscopo 2 years ago
Always get paid more at the market rate than with inflationary annual salary ticks. I hired a new crew of nurses for an expanding OR years back - every one of them came in at 21$/hr while the nurse training them who knew everything about the OR, what size scrubs each surgeon wore and laid the cornerstone for the new building 30 years ago was making 16$/hr. That's what you get for staying put.
Kioh81 2 years ago
Which is sad but true. My friend became a traveling respiratory therapist during covid and makes an enormous amount of money compared to what she was. Specifically for this reason. The hospital she was at cut her pay even though she was a rock star employee bc they needed to pay more to the traveling people so even though she loved her job she refused to take the hard pay cut. Now she gets to travel and still gets to do her job well and gets compensated for it.
Load More Replies... The Other Other White Meat 2 years ago
I've been known to leave jobs around years 3 or 4, but it's usually after being sick of abuse, toxicity, not getting raises, not feeling respected, etc. Also, I've sadly left a job or two that I absolutely loved because they couldn't pay enough to live on, and didn't provide any benefits at all. So there are various reason people should change careers if they're in a negative environment, or can't afford basic necessities.
Kraneia The Dancing Dryad 2 years ago
If you have a good excuse for job hopping it isn't so bad.
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Geoffrey Scott 2 years ago
Or turn the tables and complain she is making you uncomfortable by always watching you.
Lisa H 2 years ago
Yes, claim harassment! As a woman, I approve! Besides, why is she more focused on his nipples that her work?
Load More Replies... Michael Largey 2 years ago
Counter file a complaint about her harassing you by staring at your nipples.
The Other Other White Meat 2 years ago
If I had a dollar for all the times my coworkers saw my nips through my shirt, I could retire.
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Geoffrey Scott 2 years ago
Lawyer up, many non competes are unenforceable depending on if the knowledge you possess will be used
HangryHangryHippo 2 years ago
I read it before, it's missing the last half!!! He left and still was being harassed by them, the CEO of the new place intervened and said he will pursuit in court and then they finally stopped. (Go to the link below the photo for the whole story)
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Sonja 2 years ago (edited)
I'd not call people who dodged a bullet unlucky, and I doubt you have lucky people in your team
Nicholas Zaal 2 years ago
Lol this post was a joke, don't take it seriously.
Load More Replies... michael piscopo 2 years ago (edited)
My resume was always on seasonal colored paper: green around St Patrick's day, orange around Halloween, etc. I can't tell you how many HR people have told me that I was sitting there because it was the one in the pile they pulled out first. Yeah, it's that simple sometimes.
SelkieBlackfysh 2 years ago
Sounds like the sort of person who would reward your hard work with... Five people's worth of more work! Thanks you go getter.
Kelley Baltierra 2 years ago
Do you actually read them or just separate them into two piles, flip a coin and decide which pile goes in the bin?
Mark Schutz 2 years ago
Pretty sure this was a line from The Office or some other comedy show.
AndThenICommented 2 years ago
Someone I know will do this to CV’s over 4 pages. They think it’s a power play, but it’s just dumb. I referred someone to her with a 5 page CV, that person has been her best and most loyal employee. Person I know just doesn’t learn
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Upstaged75 2 years ago
I wrote one 15 years ago and am still using it. I just change a few words to make is relevant to the job I'm applying for.
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Jus Frpn 2 years ago
No. It was a reach out/feeler not a formal interview or rescinded offer.
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S Mi 2 years ago
This is pretty far out of line. Some of us don't have hiring departments. Wasting my time interviewing this person who gave a fraudulent resume because they feel like an outing is not okay. (I doubt my little non profit would actually be a target for something like this, but still)
Otto Katz 2 years ago
Do you know how many YEARS my husband was invited to interview for jobs they had no intention of hiring him for because they already knew who's niece they were going to hire? Or neighbor? or brother in law? But because union rules said they 'have to interview so many for the job' they'd call in qualified applicants with absolutely no chance of actually hiring them, getting their hopes up, and then they'd never hear from them again as to whether they got the job or not. Or when they did, sorry, we found someone else. And we know who got the job because of friends in the industry. Far out of line? Deciding who's getting the job ahead of time, and wasting all those other applicant's time and hopes is far out of line.
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Kraneia The Dancing Dryad 2 years ago
Must be nice. I don't need this job but I'll waste your time anyway. 🙄 I get the whole dress up bit, but you don't need a job interview to do that. Try getting a life and a girlfriend.
Sonja 2 years ago
Well I have to admit I too occasionally apply to jobs just for the funsies. I choose jobs I'm really underqualified for and have no hopes to get, but which would be a huge opportunity if I'd actually make it. I'd accept the offer though if it was good enough, I just don't really need it.
The Captain 2 years ago
This is one of the reasons businesses don't put salary in the information about the job. People wasting their time while they are trying to fill a position.
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Péter Rózsahegyi 2 years ago
Then Elon Musk will post some stupidity about cryptos and OPs nephew will be broken in a minute.
Karen Tyas 2 years ago
Yeah give it 20 minutes, their net worth will shift
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Two_rolling_black_eyes 2 years ago
I just looked up the wage for a trading floor intern in NYC. Its up to $34,461 in NYC on Ziprecruiter. Apartmentlist.com has the average rent for a studio at $3457. The top paying job can't cover 10 months rent before taxes. Shut up and let them dance because you obviously aren't giving them enough money to have any joy.
Dav Carro-Ripalda 2 years ago (edited)
Was it on their free time with no trading taking place? Then, what do you care if they are having fun?
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El Howard 2 years ago
"He"? We have a lactation room at my current job that has always fascinated me, because I would love to see what's inside it, but it has a badge reader on the door... pretty sure opening the door would earn me a meeting with HR!
Katie Howerton 2 years ago
The sad thing is men can lactate too. I had a teacher in high school that used to lactate
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D. Richard 2 years ago
Same here. Been working for 15 years with a masters and in a mid-level management role. I get recruiters contacting me for entry level jobs that I’m not sure I would’ve taken fresh out of university.
Zephyr343 2 years ago
I get the "you have a masters in occupational safety, we think you would be a great fit selling insurance"
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D. Richard 2 years ago
At the beginning of my career, I worked for a guy who didn’t hire someone BECAUSE she wore an engagement ring. He said he knew she’d be more worried about planning her wedding than doing her job. Sexist jerks always get away with c**p.
Chantal L. Miyer 2 years ago (edited)
A single woman will just be too flighty. Always looking for a man. (eyeroll at the sexism)
Nicole Weymann 2 years ago
How does a supposed fiancé convince your interviewer to give you a job?
White Sauce Hot Sauce 2 years ago
They see someone that's about to have a lot of new expenses that will compel them to stay at a job. It also shows a willingness to make a commitment.
Load More Replies... digitalin 2 years ago
Sometimes people think a young woman will be a distraction if she's single. Or likely to need expensive maternity leave if she's unmarried but with no kids. Or will be distracted if she has kids. Or a bossy harpy if she is older and has job experience. Not all employers think this way, but enough do that it statistically makes a dent in job prospects for women.
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Frogspawn 2 years ago
That's the way it's served authentically, with salt on the shell too.
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Two_rolling_black_eyes 2 years ago (edited)
Ridiculously expensive shoes. There are people in the corporate world who judge you by your shoes, suit, and watch. Deal sleds are shoes that are so high priced, the "opposition" assumes you must be amazing at what you do to be able to afford them so they they sign the deal sight unseen. Blue crocodile Gucci Jordaan loafer - $3500. They'll match your bespoke suit and $33K Blue Rolex Oyster Perpetual 41 watch perfectly.
Load More Replies... The Other Other White Meat 2 years ago
My company pays me juuuuust enough to buy groceries, fuel, and pay my rent 😄
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USMCFelicia 2 years ago
Pretty sure that I've already read this? Unless it's a deja vu moment lol
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Annie 2 years ago (edited)
After taking an admin assistant job in an HR department of a big corporation, the manager changed the job description to require at least a Bachelor's degree, mainly because the company, and this manager in particular, were degree-obsessed. They even changed the receptionist's job description to require a degree! Needless to say, it was an extremely toxic place to work. (Edit to add that this was almost 30 years ago)
James Arvidson 2 years ago
Requiring a degree for most jobs is just a lazy way to eliminate candidates. What they fail to realize is they're probably eliminating the person perfect for the job. Degrees mean very little to nothing for most positions and does not guarantee the person knows anything about the position or has the requisite skill set.
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Sunny Day 2 years ago
I was filling a full time position. I chose a candidate who was 50-ish, had no experience in this field, but was enthusiastic and willing to learn. He'd been unemployed for 2 years, and hadn't received any offers during that time. He was so excited. Then 3 days before he was due to start, his car was repossessed and he didn't have any way to get to work (45 minute commute from next town). It sucked.
Annie 2 years ago (edited)
After taking an admin assistant job in an HR department of a big corporation, the manager changed the job description to require at least a Bachelor's degree, mainly because the company, and this manager in particular, were degree-obsessed. They even changed the receptionist's job description to require a degree! Needless to say, it was an extremely toxic place to work. (Edit to add that this was almost 30 years ago)
James Arvidson 2 years ago
Requiring a degree for most jobs is just a lazy way to eliminate candidates. What they fail to realize is they're probably eliminating the person perfect for the job. Degrees mean very little to nothing for most positions and does not guarantee the person knows anything about the position or has the requisite skill set.
Load More Replies... Sunny Day 2 years ago
I was filling a full time position. I chose a candidate who was 50-ish, had no experience in this field, but was enthusiastic and willing to learn. He'd been unemployed for 2 years, and hadn't received any offers during that time. He was so excited. Then 3 days before he was due to start, his car was repossessed and he didn't have any way to get to work (45 minute commute from next town). It sucked.
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