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In a way, this post is basically the movie version of shower thoughts. Bear with me. After Twitter user @jazz_inmypants asked people to share bothering movie details that aren't common knowledge, his thread received quite a few interesting insights. For example, Grease (1978) might be described as a story that teaches you to change yourself until other people like you. And Belle's (Beuty and the Beast (1991)) neighbors are probably doing something shady if the village can support such an extensive bookstore when she's the only reader and doesn't even pay. The tweet by @jazz_inmypants has already received over 30K likes and 1K comments, many of which filmmaking students could definitely rework into term papers.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OMG This is so mine.... and the fact that Charlie PREFERRED to take Grandpa Joe rather than his Mum whose life was a depressing painful prison.... It just made me want to smack that kid.

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Altogether, a film can seem incredibly complicated, but the reasoning behind every decision nearly always comes down to how it is working with the story and how it is affecting the viewer. With that in mind, the New York Film Academy has prepared some tips for reviewing a film and coming up with your own insights.

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    Watch it. "Once is necessary twice is preferable," the academy wrote. "Taking notes is also a good idea and will help the writing process by making it easy to refer to your in-the-moment thoughts and reactions."

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    kanishka prasan Senevirathna
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because he wanted to look deferent than his foster apes. He shave his beard with his deceased father's knife every day.

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    Express your initial thoughts and support your criticism. "Professional reviewers do not shy away from telling their readers whether they thought the movie was good bad or indifferent, and in fact readers come to rely on those reviewers whose tastes reflect their own when deciding whether or not to spend their time and money. Professional reviewers also have watched a lot of movies and can express why and how they came to their criticism. Be sure to back up your thoughts with specifics–a disappointing performance, a ridiculous plot, beautiful cinematography, difficult material that leaves you thinking, and so on."

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    Dani
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    5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, Santa does seem to only give expensive presents to rich kids, doesn't he? XD

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    Evaluate the acting. "Many casual filmgoers will be inspired to see a movie if a favorite actor is in it, so you should probably spend a little space talking about the performances: seasoned actor in a new kind of role, brilliant performance from a rising star, excellence despite a lackluster script, dynamics in an ensemble, and so much more can be said about the actors in any given film."

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    glowworm2
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Give Harvey a break. He's been hospitalized, is missing half his face and is probably hopped up on sedatives. Of course he's going to have trouble recognizing that his nurse is the Joker.

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    Directing, cinematography, special effects... This is where your inner film geek can really shine. Consider the highlights or missteps of directors, cinematographers, costume designers and CGI magicians. What worked, what surprised, what fell short of expectations, are all great questions to address.

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    It's also important to look at a film’s story from a structural viewpoint. Try to to keep in mind that the vast majority of films fall into the three-act structure: a beginning, middle, and end. It's not because the screenwriters are lazy, but because the formula simply works. In screenplays, the first thing you should look out for is the inciting incident. Generally, about 10 minutes into the film, there will be a moment that forces the protagonist to exit their comfort zone and start their journey towards a new goal. Around the thirty-minute mark, there is usually a major turning point. At this moment, the hero can't go back, that signals the beginning of the second act where the majority of the film will take place. Finally, around the ninety-minute mark, the second turning point will signal the film’s drive towards both its conclusion and resolution.

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    Of course, some films don’t fit perfectly into the three-act structure, but the vast majority of films do and you can start to get a sense of when important moments or changes will occur when you know the general format.

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    Vicky Zar
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did you know that this movie is based on the German book "Das doppelte Lottchen" from Erich Kästner? The girls are Luise and Lotte from Vienna and Munich respectively. The book was written around 1945 so the story makes much more sense regarding the timeframe. Today its stupid of course but back then it wasn't that easy to keep in contact when miles apart.

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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really hated his character and Andy's friends. They sure jumped at the chance to get some goodies for free, but also constantly critizised her and made fun of her for her new job. What a bunch of s**t friends. She should have severed ties with all of them.

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    Woets
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One or both parents are actually dead or die during the movie. Some serious daddy/mommy-issues there at Disney

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    Cyndi H
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This has always bothered me... Glad someone else picked it up.

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    Carol Emory
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They also don't tell you that Hera drove Hercules insane so that he kills his wife Megara and his 5 children

    Jean Jacket
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    TwiceRice23 is a douche. You can tell me all the tid bits you know about Greek Mythology! It's fascinating!

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    Alan Wilkening
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    5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the screenwriters had stayed true to the known manuscripts of Ancient Greek mythology, this could never have been a Disney production, nor would it have earned anything better than an R rating. Like it or not, Greek mythology generally is not for the little kiddies. So a highly sanitized, selective and revisionist retelling of the stories is the only path forward if you want to make and distribute a childrens’ cartoon about “Hercules.” But then again, Greek Mythology is called “mythology” because it’s all make-believe in the first place, so who cares if the stories change in the retelling?

    Stille20
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Annoying? Sure, but most Disney fiilms are a wildly altered version of a traditional story. I think Mulan is actually the closest to the original.

    A J
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always been bothered by US-movie adaptations of European literature and historical publications, like in this case a story drawn from Greek mythology. Either use it accurately or make up your own stories, just don't call it Hercules and then make a new, more "suitable" thing out of it. Same with Little Mermaid (a fairy tale by Hans Christian Andersen) The Three Musketeers (a book by Alexandre Dumas) etc.etc.etc...

    Random Panda
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand the argument that they changed so much of the story to make it kid-friendly. I was 7 when this came out and I didn't like it because I already knew the mythology and the movie had it a*s-backwards. There are plenty of ways to tell the actual mythology to kids, without going into the nasty details. Americans coddle their kids too much.

    Chelsea Bates
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They changed a lot of things in Disney movies. In the real story of Ariel she doesn't get the prince and slowly dies of sea foam. In Cinderella she kills her step mother and tortured her step sisters. So this doesn't surprise me that they would change the movie Hercules as well

    The Dutches
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or The Hunchback of the Notre Dame. That shouldn't end well. I love Disney movies, but I would prefer them to make up original stories instead of altering classics.

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    Catlady6000
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    IDK, why people are saying the original myths would be inappropriate. I read Bulfinch's mythology at around 7 or 8. Nothing was explicit, just Zeus turned into a swan and had a baby with some woman, or a bunch of people were killed during the Trojan war. No need to change the story, just don't go into unnecessary detail. I did spend a lot of time trying to figure out the swan thing though.

    Carol Emory
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually..Zeus didn't impregnate Leda (the woman impregnated by the swan form of Zeus) to produce Hercules. He originally slept with Danae who gave birth to Perseus. Perseus son ,Electryon, fathered Alcmene who, in turn, slept with Zeus to produce Hercules. So Hercules was Zeus's great great grandson and his son...and cousin. How twisted is that?

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    Mica Fiverline
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was easier to digest for kids that way, I guess... Sure, the mythology is screwed up but Zeus was written to be a likeable character... The truth would have blown that out of the window. A "normal" Mom/Dad dynamic is much easier to understand for kids...

    Zenozenobee
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kids watching Disney step mothers being monsters for ever, it wouldn't be a problem. Disfunctional families are "normal" in disney's univers. Kids know stories like Tom Thumb they perfectly understand that parents of heroes can be fallible.

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    Whereamiphobia
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also in the original stories hedes was more or less a better person than Hera

    Mark Evans
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course it's Disney. They did the same thing with Pocahontas in which the story of the real Pocahontas is really depressing.

    Minnie-me
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a Disney (G or PG rated) movie if the move told the true mythological story

    blugeagua
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well Greek mythology was pretty misogynistic itself. Always portraying female figures as “jealous bitches”. Kind of nice that they changed it up for once.

    Oathbraker
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    5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Umm... it's a kids movie? Greek mythology involves quite a bit of sex, so it's easier for kids to understand "little brother envious of big brother" than a jealous woman. https://scontent.fsof5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64918077_2337409236349668_81256735381127168_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQnl5_vWKaapkPG1789PL0YJ1rKrzVOHGsnivfi007QUiiIXhuFrUHdHjzrKvtaR2WE&_nc_ht=scontent.fsof5-1.fna&oh=6920e73bcb8e734d550907609c53316c&oe=5DC5869D

    Jon Parker
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hercules was a great movie and should not be tainted by logic. =P

    Analyn Lahr
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disney had to make it "kid friendly" , so no infidelity or incest. Zeus and Hera were brother and sister.

    glowworm2
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It would not have been appropriate for children, simple as that. Amusingly enough, I did once find a children's picture book written from Hera's point of view of how she tried to kill Hercules--the artwork looked like something out of Xena the Warrior Princess too. XD!

    goodmorning
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But It's a movie based on the myth and not a documantery. Don't expect to learn mythology or history from movies . The real knowledge is in the books.

    akiwi
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I saw the movie, I was so surprised at how inaccurate it was. At least the songs were pretty nice

    Miss_Olivia
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Greek mythology Zeus had a child with his great granddaughter (Semele) who's the daughter of harmony who's the daughter of ares and Aphrodite. Ares is Zeus' son. So yeah, Greek mythology is kinda messed up.

    Jette Wang Wahnon
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What did you expect? American film makers (save a few)are not known for their deep knowledge of history going back more than a few decades.Anyone remember the ditty«Cecil B deMille much against his will couldn´t put Moses into The War of Roses«? What really bothers me is that any time a High-class couple/event etc is depicted you always hear Mozart´s Salzburger Concerts.For years I played with the idea of sending a tape of alternative classical music off to Hollywood...

    Sheena Leversedge Wood
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well, obviously, it should have been Heracles, not Hercules. amusingly, named in honour of Hera. who tried to kill him. trust me, children can handle the darker implications of greek mythology. or any. although I did get funny looks during one of the Thor films (yeah, I know it's Norse) when I burst out laughing as Odin rode in on Sleipnir. when my husband looked a bit baffled, I had to explain the origins of Sleipnir.

    Meyer Weinstock
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well, we also know Disney's track-record of keeping with the original scripts...

    Josie Jones
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not meant to be the story of Hercules verbatim though it’s more like a Disney movie inspired by Hercules no?

    glowworm2
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They also mixed up the Fates with the Graeae or Grey Ones who shared one eye and one tooth between them. In the animated movie, the Fates have one eye between them and keep passing it around. I saw the movie as a kid, so this actually bothered me more as an adult.

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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, but he is supposed to be only 18 I think. Swayze is not 18, but neither is Jennifer Gray. 18 and 16 is not too bad.

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    Steve
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    hmmm... do we know that in the original timeline Biff tried that? It was only because Marty was there that the two of them were parked, and Biff turned up. It's possible he didn't attack Lorraine in the original '55. Just a thought...

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    Daria B
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a YouTube channel dedicated to these little details in super hero films (and other). How It Should Have Ended. Very skillfully made funny videos.

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    RaroaRaroa
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And no one ever has a password on their phone. Anyone can just pick it up and see what they've been texting.

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    RaroaRaroa
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, the size of houses in most American movies and TV series' is ridiculous. A teacher and a nurse living in a massive house? No wonder immigrants think it's the place to be.

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    Bobert Robertson
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was to keep his mind relaxed and clear so he wouldn’t be in a panic when they arrived and instead could go full send on the booby traps

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    Paul K. Johnson
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jenny was broken from childhood. This may bother you but it happens a lot in real life so it's not unrealistic.

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    Beau Haven
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disagree. The point of the whole movie was Bueller getting Frye to live beyond his fears.

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    Laura Sanders
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still can't handle how so many of the retired Bella's could afford to just jet off to Denmark

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    Jason Cutrera
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are actually a few good reasons why the eagle plan would have been a lot riskier. 1) The Ring has a will of its own and often drops from the grasp of whomever holds it. If, during flight, the Ring fell, the heroes would most likely never find it again before Sauron did -- especially if it fell over Mordor or the Dead Marshes. 2) While maybe not as strong as the Eagles in the air, the Ringwraiths are quite comfortable in the skies and I'm certain the Ringbearer would be less safe aloft than on the ground, where there are hiding places and escape routes. 3) As an intelligent race of Middle-Earth, the Eagles are as susceptible to the corrupting influence of the One Ring as any other. Discord would have been sown in the ranks of the Eagles and the Heroes, and that is another complication that Gandalf probably wouldn't have risked.

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    Jon Parker
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was acting like the natives. When a King Kong-sized child enters the room, you better believe you'll play dead like everyone else.

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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Coupled with why did the witch curse an 11 year old boy who didn't want to let a stranger into his house....

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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Translation for clarity: in the live action movie Scooby Doo, it is unbelievable that Velma(played by Linda Cardellini) is an unsexy nerd, when she is, in fact, extremely hot.

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    Wanda Queen
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the books he has to go back home and wait for fall, so this is why everyone should read the books if they're able, so much better

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    Kaisu
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love that this is the unrealistic thing that they complain about, and not a fact that the rodents can talk. It's kids movies, lighten up.

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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate any 'size difference' movie, the characters wouldn't be able to absorb food or oxygen !

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    Carol Emory
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was the point of the movie. She was trying to resist because he was her step-brother. But they aren't committing incest because they are not blood related. Only a piece of paper makes them brother and sister and, since the stepfather never formally adopts Cher, there is no legal or moral line being crossed.

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    Abbey Impson
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my parents are still alive and I just saw my brother for the first time in 12 years....it happens more than you might think

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    Miklós Nagy
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    5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, that one picked up several times. The explanation is that the T-Rex pushed their cars not into her own cage but the next one, which was the brontosaurus's and that one had that cliff. There are some illustration and early sketches on the net which explains that but it come throught as a plothole in the movie.

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    Giovanni
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's explained at various points in the movie, The MCU doesn't work on standard time travel rules, every change in the time line simply creates an alternative universe and there is not butterfly effect, if the change is small enaugh it will not create a different universe/time line. This means that there is an universe/time line where Thanos, Nebula and Gamora disappeared in 2014 without leaving trace.

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    Dawid Dryżałowski
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THAT'S what you found improbable in a movie about an ogre and a talking donkey? :D

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    RaroaRaroa
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In NZ the age of consent is 16, so it wouldn't seem that odd. I assume he's meant to be early 20s. I've never seen the movie so don't know.

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    Loretta
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    5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The whole movie is a complete b******t genetically. There are only female worker bees, who are 0,75% alike genetically (more than siblings, but less than twins). The male bees don't work, the fly out soon to another colony. The queen female bee is the only one who reproduces, with a male from another colony. So a) if you want to seriously learn about bees, don't rely on movies and b) real life bees don't engage in incest. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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