“Completely Separate”: Woman Is Worried About Fiancé’s Desire To Not Share Income
Talking about money with a partner is seldom fun, but it’s an important part of cohabiting. But without trust, clear communication, and similar values, finances can be a relationship minefield, if not approached correctly. But the sensitive nature of money often makes it very difficult to start an honest conversation.
A woman turned to the internet for advice when she learned that her wealthier Fiancé wanted their finances to be completely separate. She detailed the discussion and his thinking behind the matter and wondered if she was being unreasonable to want more.
Money is a touchy subject and a common first test in many marriages
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A woman wondered if she was being unreasonable for thinking her fiancé’s finances shouldn’t be completely separate
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Relationship management is a cornerstone of a successful marriage
Ultimately, a relationship built on love, trust, and solid communication can and will prevail, but marriage specialists do indicate that there has to be a positive balance between good interactions and bad interactions. Some research suggests that by and large, for every negative interaction, there need to be at least five good ones, otherwise the relationship may start to deteriorate over time. It’s pretty easy to see how money and how people feel about it can pretty easily constitute negative emotions, particularly if, like in OP’s story, at least one partner feels unhappy about how it’s managed.
This sort of marriage maintenance is important because, as some specialists note, just being together may not be enough for most couples. People grow and change, and daily annoyances always arise. As C.S. Lewis wrote from the perspective of a devil trying to destroy a person in “The Screwtape Letters,” “When two humans have lived together for many years it usually happens that each has tones of voice and expressions of face which are almost unendurably irritating to the other. Work on that. Bring fully into the consciousness of your patient that particular lift of his mother’s eyebrows which he learned to dislike in the nursery, and let him think how much he dislikes it. Let him assume that she knows how annoying it is and does it to annoy – if you know your job he will not notice the immense improbability of the assumption. And, of course, never let him suspect that he has tones and looks which similarly annoy her. As he cannot see or hear himself, this is easily managed.”
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Couples that are honest and open about money tend to do well
The unfortunate truth is that a lot of small annoyances can erode a relationship if not properly managed. A longitudinal study conducted among Polish couples found that in most cases relationship satisfaction was closely related to how effectively the pair would communicate about money. Obviously, a couple that can communicate about money will likely communicate well about other issues, but it’s important to acknowledge that money is an important factor in 21st-century life. While OP does understand that she is not entitled to her husband-to-be’s money, this doesn’t change the fact that living with a partner isn’t the same as having a roommate. But without further details of how he intends to “share” or perhaps not share, it’s difficult to know how this relationship will work.
While money might seem like an unpleasant and ugly topic from the perspective of a relationship, it’s important to realize that we aren’t talking about greed or amazing untold wealth. For most people, money equals comfort and security, with an emphasis on the latter. A feeling of security is actually very, very important for any relationship. Studies have shown that if even one partner does not feel secure, it negatively affects the long-term prospects of any relationship. While OP might not be afraid of starving or becoming homeless (unless her fiancé is legendarily stingy,) it’s easy to see how uncertainty might give her a lot of stress.
Ultimately, OP’s fiancé might have to decide if he values sole access to his money over the mental well-being of his wife. Successful relationships nearly always require both partners to share goals and values, as compromise is possible, but tends to lead to lots of resentment, which is toxic for most relationships in the long run. Hopefully, OP can sit down with her partner and work out the specifics of how they will manage money in the long run.
Many readers sided with OP
But a few didn’t think it was that big of a deal
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Share on FacebookYou should always have an account in your name with money in it. If your partner dies unexpectedly, any money in their accounts and in joint accounts may not be able to be accessed until the will is processed.
Yeah this wouldn't really concern me either. If separate finances are working, why bother with the stress of combining them? If you're marrying the person surely you trust them not to screw you over right? So is there really any harm in keeping finances separate?
Load More Replies...My husband and I have our own separate accounts because we have our own separate incomes (his being 4xs mine as well) and we can do whatever we want with the money we earn... we ALSO have a house account that we put money for the bills in and we ALWAYS discuss big purchases and decide together. I could ask him for $1,000 right now and have it transferred to my account with no questions asked in less time than it would take him to reply ok lol it's just best for us to have separate and joined accounts. Everything isn't fit for everyone but if OP doesn't feel entitled to his money then why is this an issue?
right? that was interesting to me too. if she doesnt feel entitled to the money, why is this an issue at all?
Load More Replies...You are right to be concerned. Even assuming he is "generous" in giving you a weekly "allowance" for home keeping and does not try to financially control and coerce you.... in 20 years time after you have stopped working to have children and support him, you will have no retirement fund and no savings of your own. Everything will be in his name. He will claim that he owes you nothing because your accounts were always separate and you will have absolutely no idea what his financial position is. I'm a family lawyer. I see it all the time. Don't do it. ETA... you should each have a personal/discretionary account, but incomes should be deposited to a joint.
Having been married 20 years and ending up the non-earning spouse raising special needs kids, I wholeheartedly agree with this.
Load More Replies...You should always have an account in your name with money in it. If your partner dies unexpectedly, any money in their accounts and in joint accounts may not be able to be accessed until the will is processed.
Yeah this wouldn't really concern me either. If separate finances are working, why bother with the stress of combining them? If you're marrying the person surely you trust them not to screw you over right? So is there really any harm in keeping finances separate?
Load More Replies...My husband and I have our own separate accounts because we have our own separate incomes (his being 4xs mine as well) and we can do whatever we want with the money we earn... we ALSO have a house account that we put money for the bills in and we ALWAYS discuss big purchases and decide together. I could ask him for $1,000 right now and have it transferred to my account with no questions asked in less time than it would take him to reply ok lol it's just best for us to have separate and joined accounts. Everything isn't fit for everyone but if OP doesn't feel entitled to his money then why is this an issue?
right? that was interesting to me too. if she doesnt feel entitled to the money, why is this an issue at all?
Load More Replies...You are right to be concerned. Even assuming he is "generous" in giving you a weekly "allowance" for home keeping and does not try to financially control and coerce you.... in 20 years time after you have stopped working to have children and support him, you will have no retirement fund and no savings of your own. Everything will be in his name. He will claim that he owes you nothing because your accounts were always separate and you will have absolutely no idea what his financial position is. I'm a family lawyer. I see it all the time. Don't do it. ETA... you should each have a personal/discretionary account, but incomes should be deposited to a joint.
Having been married 20 years and ending up the non-earning spouse raising special needs kids, I wholeheartedly agree with this.
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