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Teacher Reduced To Tears After Dad Berates Her For Ignoring His Son’s Warnings That He’s Unwell

Teacher Reduced To Tears After Dad Berates Her For Ignoring His Son’s Warnings That He’s Unwell

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It’s a tough job being a teacher because you never know when the kids are actually serious or when they are just pulling your leg. However, when you are aware of a student’s medical record, you would definitely be considerate enough when they come to you, wouldn’t you?

Well, that’s not always the case, for Reddit user Dangerousbean1984, expressed his annoyance when his son’s teacher was completely ignorant when the kid told her multiple times that he was unwell. In the end, he fainted and hurt himself, so his father lashed out against the teacher!

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    The poster’s 13-year-old son occasionally passes out, so they’ve trained him what to do when he feels like he might

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    When the kid felt unwell, he told his teacher that he needed to go to the nurse, but she yelled at him instead and dismissed him thrice

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    Even his friend tried to convince the teacher, but to no avail, so eventually the teen fell and hurt his head, and the poster was called to the school

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    He was so furious with the teacher for dismissing his son that he yelled at her to the point that she started crying

    Today, we dive into a story that would infuriate any parent because of how negligent this teacher was to the student. What happened was that the original poster (OP) has a 13-year-old son who often faints, so they have trained him on what to do when he does, to ensure he doesn’t hurt himself.

    When OP received a call from the school, he went to get his son but found him holding an ice pack to his head as the teen had hurt himself. Confounded by what happened, the poster enquired further only to find out that the kid had asked the teacher to go to the nurse, but she had ignored his warnings thrice and also yelled at him.

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    She told him that he was just “making excuses” and refused to listen, even when a friend tried to tell her the gravity of the situation. The father was so furious by this that he went to the principal, who called the teacher, and the woman completely denied everything and claimed he had just collapsed.

    This really triggered the father because he started yelling at her to the point that she started crying, and when he shared the story with his family, some felt that it was wrong of him to yell like that. However, when he posted it on Reddit, many users commented that they sided with the poster and the teacher was a bully for ignoring the kid and then crying about it.

    Many netizens questioned whether the teacher was aware of the student’s condition, and the poster replied that she was, which further enraged people. They said that although it was wrong of him to yell at her, he is only human, and such reactions are bound to happen when kids are involved.

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    To get expert insights, Bored Panda interviewed Anjali Abigail Vipparti, a teacher mentor at a non-profit organization, Enabling Leadership, who also works with kids. She believes that when a student is struggling with something, the school should be aware of it, and they should also inform the counselor and the teacher so they understand whether the kid is being honest or not.

    “It’s very difficult for teachers to balance skepticism and concern, therefore, it’s crucial that educators develop a good relationship with each child. Now, with the rise in alternative education, building this relationship becomes mandatory for schools trying to ensure a more student-centric approach,” she added.

    She stressed the importance of this relationship as it enables a teacher to build trust with the student, which might help them understand the physical health or mental condition of a student. Anjali Abigail expressed that trust plays a pivotal role here as children who are developing need trustworthy adults around them.

    She also noted that to grow in a healthy environment, what’s needed for any individual is stability and the absence of severe stress, and that happens only when there’s trust established between adults and children. As per her, it’s the school’s responsibility to educate teachers about it and enable them to create a safe space for students. 

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    Speaking about this situation, she narrated that the student might face difficulty in communicating again as the teacher’s dismissal might affect the trust that he has for teachers in general. However, Anjali Abigail mentioned that the relationship can still be salvaged if the teacher apologizes to the student and they develop a system where they understand each other when the student is struggling.

    Well, these pointers from our expert definitely sound helpful, wouldn’t you agree? Also, if you were in the poster’s shoes, how would you handle a situation like this? Feel free to jot down your thoughts in the comments below!

    Folks sided with the poster and said that the teacher sounded like a bully who liked to yell at kids without knowing what they were going through

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    Big Chungus
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a similar condition called neurocardiogenic syncope where standing for longer periods or in stressors make me pass out. I made sure my work was fully aware (I actually passed out at work for the first time I had ever had an episode) and I have to lay on the floor with my feet in my chair. The fact that this teacher couldn't just let him lay down in the back for 5 minutes is just ridiculous. It doesn't take away from anything or anyone and prevents injuries. I would be pissed too if I was the parent.

    Weltschmerz
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've just been diagnosed with Superventricular Tachycardia (SVT) and the episodes are horrible, especially if I don't lie down quick enough. Fortunately I've only fainted once but that's because I can usually lie down quick enough. This teacher is so irresponsible and heartless! Assuming she was aware this is a dereliction of duty of care to the child.

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    vglw
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The teacher was wrong. I am a retired teacher - taught high school for 40 years. Is the teacher also a medical doctor? It doesn't matter if she thinks the student is making it up. Send kiddo to the nurse. This is particularly disgusting to me. I have had students with serious medical issues. There is nothing scarier than a student who has to be attended to by an ambulance staff when they have been ignored by an adult who is supposed to be that student's advocate and keep them safe. The teacher was wrong.

    g90814
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wow no YTA posts? What is this world coming to? Dad was fully justified yelling at the teacher, she was negligent and just plain stupid.

    Julie S
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She knew she was in the wrong that's why she lied about what actually happened.

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    KatSaidWhat
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a whole classroom of witnesses right there - ask them what really happened.

    Katie Barnes
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is what I was thinking. One of my colleagues was accused of verbally assaulting a student a few years ago. Parents got a lawyer involved, went to the media and government, phoned every other family in the class at home to report that their children were being assaulted. The student admitted to making the whole thing up a few days later after no other students backed up her story. The parents dd not apologize to my colleague.

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    Gwyn
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had similar issues with a different diagnosis for my child who is in the USA and has a 504. I have never yelled at a teacher though a few have done similar things. One school never fixed it and I had to move her to a different school. Since then I have still had it happen twice in three years. I sent an email describing the situation to no less than 4 people at the new school titled "504 violation". When it is in writing they fix it pretty quickly at this one.

    Remi Flynne
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly - put it in writing! Advocate calmly for your child. It always works better - no-one can point a finger at you then for ANY reason. I feel much sympathy for this father and don't blame him for his anger AT ALL but it rarely benefits the situation. If they're prepared to lie they might say he was out of control, so don't ever give them an excuse. You go in cold, with logic, medical records and reason on your side. The principal is then more likely to be happy to help if there are future problems (though don't go the otherway and be a pushover). Your child sounds like she has a great parent on her side.

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    katiekat0214
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Retired teacher here, and there are so many more factors in play here. First of all, the parent has no clue about the overall discipline in that one period. I had a few years where one class out of five had real issues with impulsivity, constant standing up, constantly having to be reminded to get back on task, so that I was putting out fires way more than teaching. That one kid who never caused any problems, which it sounds like this kid was, an overall good kid... if that one kid also contributed to classroom chaos, everything could go to hell in a handbasket very quickly. Kids take cues from other kids. You also don't know what is going on with the teacher. Life happens, and the teacher could well be under real-life stress too. Yelling isn't appropriate, but sometimes happens in classes without much discipline that hasn't yet been internalized. That age group matures at all different paces.

    Say No to Downvoting
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do wonder how high school teachers can really keep tabs on and remember the intricate details of their students when they do have SO MANY students to deal with. My son is autistic and is about to start high school (mainstream) in a couple of weeks. I have been assured that all his teachers will know his condition and while he is a very well behaved kid it’s not impossible that he will occasionally get up or talk out of turn or maybe do something that causes a minor disruption - will teachers really remember “ah, that’s the kid with autism” and handle that appropriately or will he get shouted at? Similarly, did this teacher have so many details to remember about these kids, she forgot that this one was the fainty one? Of course she still should have responded differently. But high school teachers have so much on their plate.

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    ginshun
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Being made to cry is the least that she should have gotten.

    notlikeyou1971
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA Sorry but I have not pity for the teacher and her tears. She's at fault here. Her crying should be the least of the school's worries. They were aware of your child's medical issue and this teacher decided to scream at your child. I have some words they should worry about. DISHONESTY, NEGLECT, CHILD ENDANGERMENT, PERSONAL INJURY, LAWSUIT. Do those words mean more than than a few minutes of her tears? Maybe this will TEACH her some things. HONESTY, ACCOUNTABILITY, COMPASSION, EMPATHY, CAUTION. Isn't that what parents and teachers are supposed to reinforce?

    Ornery Owl 🦉
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a teacher, and whenever one of my students says they don't feel well—for many different reasons—I always send them to the nurse, I want to make sure the school nurse is aware and they can call parents, if needed.

    Lousha
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The yelling was perfectly appropriate, the teacher should be thankful she was not physically accosted. When I was little and got hurt at school because of some a***hole teachers and a nurse, the only reason my dad did not march into the school right away because - even though he's a very peaceful man - he knew he would not have been able to restrain himself, and if he went to prison on assault charges, his kids would have gone without. But it took all his strength to not go and raise hell.

    Lousha
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On a side note, one thing this OP could've done better is to raise his kid to have more agency. From a small age me and my siblings were told to never yield to authority if we felt unsafe. In general obey your teachers, be respectful to adults etc., but if anyone tells you something you think will endangere you or humiliate you, you refuse and tell them to get bent and call your parents. Eg if you feel you'll faint, tell your teacher but do NOT ask for permission, get on the floor right away. Your parents can sort it with the teacher later, but if you're hurt, you might be hurt forever. I had much lesser health issues, but when they arose they required immediate treatment, so I was taught to call my dad if I felt ill, he picked me up right away from shcool, and he called the school to tell them where I went. I did not waste time trying to find a power-hungry teacher and try to argue with them about how ill I felt according to them.

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    Kristen Sharp
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have seriously bad anemia (which could kill me if not kept in check!) and I'm menopausal. I'm not saying I've got something worse than this poor child, but when I feel the hot flash coming, I need to lie down or sit or else my legs will literally turn to rubber and I'll pass out. My mother tells me that she never had that happen to her that way, but I can only tell her "it's just something else for me to deal with." I've had it happen a couple of times at work and if someone came at me like that teacher did to that boy... whoa nelly!

    Campy
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Was she reduced to tears or did she use tears to avoid responsibility and garner sympathy? Poor widdle baby.

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You lost the moral high ground when you yelled at the teacher. You need to keep your cool while enviscerating these people. You should have made her cry without raising your voice. Then when she cried, you say “I’m glad to see you are upset, it’s the first indication I’ve seen that you understand the seriousness of your actions.” say to the principal “I’m going to need the following 1) a copy of teacher’s formal reprimand 2) a written plan to prevent this happening again 3) an apology to my son in front of the class. I’d like to get this resolved right here so I don’t have to escalate this further.”

    Lucas
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You do have to be careful when letting anger overwhelm, even for good reasons like this father had. The problem is that it can easily go against you if the school claims that you were out of control, that they feared violence etc. You are right that it gives them some moral high ground to claim and you don't want that at all. Being calm and cold is always going to be the better bet. Yet, it is SO understandable. He was scared for his son and then appalled at the lies. I'm not sure I'd have behaved any better but then I do have a few anger problems (thanks dad for the childhood issues...). So while you are right, it's not always that easy. Keeping calm would make it harder for the principal to take the teacher's side - there would be less to defend. There was a room full of witnesses, the school should investigate and then ensure that the teacher is dealt with AND make sure that other teachers know how to look after this boy and ensure he is believed.

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    brandyy17
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wen i was diagnosed with epilepsy one of my teachers didnt believe i had it bc zoning out and just staring wasnt a seizure in her eyes. i was 13 or 14 wen this happened. i was walking to my desk and had a seizure while right before i went to sit down. i become totally unresponsive and like im in a frozen state. cant hear, see or feel anything wen this happens. even my mind goes blank. according to my friend my teacher was yelling at me, shaking me and eventually pushed me towards my seat which resulted in me hitting my head on the chair then desk then the floor. my friend said she notice a quick glimpse that i snapped out of it right before i hit the chair. my friends, other classmates even the class bully all told the principle the exact same thing my friend did. he spoke to them one by one since its known students didnt like the teacher in question. i woke up in the hospital and learned not only did i have a seizure but a concussion as well. my parents showed the medical papers from my hospital trip to the principle and he fired that teacher on the spot since she fully ignored my docuemented medical condition and was the cause of my concussion. all my other teachers were always on alert for seizures. wenever they noticed it theyd stop the lesson stand or sit near me until i snapped out of it then theyd have another student (usually a friend) bring me to the nurses office. this psycho teacher was the only one who didnt follow the guidelines set by my doctor. i remember the principal telling me that he was originally going to swap teachers and make sure im never in her class again but my parents, my friends parents and parents of my other classmates all requested she b fired bc they feared for their childrens safety around her. i only asked y she was fired bc i didnt remember anything. i havent had a seizure randomly since 2009. only ones ive had were either due to me getting covid, a severe injury (major pain is a trigger) or extremely sick like severe pnuemonia or the flu. those situations i have grand mals which r the falling and shaking ones. my seizures do result in memory loss or damage to the memory part of my brain so school was rough after awhile. i dislike impatient, rude, their rules and ideas r law teachers due to my experience. any child who experiences a teacher like that the parents r fully justified in reacting however they want whether its yelling or demanding the teacher b fired especially if its related to a childs medical condition or the child got injured in some way due to negligence.

    Uncle Schmickle
    Community Member
    16 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A narcissistic ignoramus of a teacher. She deserved getting a blast from the father, after denying the boy did not tell her he was feeling ill. I hope she learns a lesson from this.

    DC
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She can scream at kids, but cries once the fallout of her stupid behaviour comes back home? Oh how typical that is. Sorry to all reasonable teachers, but ... it doesn't surprise me, neither of all of this does. People who aren't able to stand up to adults, but abuse power over kids, have a special place in my heart since I had been placed under the command of such for 14 years, which they call "education". Seems rather unfit for a teaching position, she...

    Myoviridae
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If this happened in college, then the prof/instructor would have called 911 immediately, followed by seeing if they could assist the student (while still on the phone to emergency services).

    George D
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Item 4 on his expounded details is where the NTA lies. She was already aware of his condition. One thing is for certain, after this brow beating that put her in tears I'll bet she'll never behave the same way in a similar situation in the future again.

    Ginger ninja
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA the teacher was probably crying to be manipulative. OP’s son has a whole classroom full of witnesses and if the school knows about and has a plan in place for his fainting and teacher deliberately ignored it causing OP’s son to hurt himself its time to take it higher than the head teacher and also to lawyer up

    Mary Allan
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The father should talk to a solicitor and take legal action against the school and the teacher involved. It's the only language school teacher Bullies understand. Also go to the education authority above the head as well. This bully teacher needs removing. The behaviour was completely unacceptable and dangerous for the student.

    DC
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're too harsh too fast. Your solution may prove necessary, your entire point may prove right, but that isn't as of yet. It's not clear to me if her - doubtlessly hideous - behaviour was her regular, or if that sort of antics is an exception. Anyway, she seems to have understood the wrong in it, and might reevaluate her handling of similar situations, while any new teacher to replace her, may be worse, and also didn't learn this lesson yet. Punishment shouldn't be the major goal, but prevention of such, regardless of it is her teaching, or somebody else. I don't agree with you in total, but upvoted to even out the down, because this only leads to the most deserving-of-being-debated comments being unanswerable. Which sucks even worse than that fücked up autocensor-BS.

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    Kate Johnson
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Too bad so sad for "crying" teacher. She deserved to cry for that kind of disgusting, dishonest and irresponsible behavior.

    Chris the Bobcat
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have blown the fvck up too. If someone doesn't respond to polite requests, I don't mind going full feral Karen on them if it gets the damn point across. Sometimes a bit of overkill is required to get through to some people.

    Big Chungus
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a similar condition called neurocardiogenic syncope where standing for longer periods or in stressors make me pass out. I made sure my work was fully aware (I actually passed out at work for the first time I had ever had an episode) and I have to lay on the floor with my feet in my chair. The fact that this teacher couldn't just let him lay down in the back for 5 minutes is just ridiculous. It doesn't take away from anything or anyone and prevents injuries. I would be pissed too if I was the parent.

    Weltschmerz
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've just been diagnosed with Superventricular Tachycardia (SVT) and the episodes are horrible, especially if I don't lie down quick enough. Fortunately I've only fainted once but that's because I can usually lie down quick enough. This teacher is so irresponsible and heartless! Assuming she was aware this is a dereliction of duty of care to the child.

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    vglw
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The teacher was wrong. I am a retired teacher - taught high school for 40 years. Is the teacher also a medical doctor? It doesn't matter if she thinks the student is making it up. Send kiddo to the nurse. This is particularly disgusting to me. I have had students with serious medical issues. There is nothing scarier than a student who has to be attended to by an ambulance staff when they have been ignored by an adult who is supposed to be that student's advocate and keep them safe. The teacher was wrong.

    g90814
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wow no YTA posts? What is this world coming to? Dad was fully justified yelling at the teacher, she was negligent and just plain stupid.

    Julie S
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She knew she was in the wrong that's why she lied about what actually happened.

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    KatSaidWhat
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a whole classroom of witnesses right there - ask them what really happened.

    Katie Barnes
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is what I was thinking. One of my colleagues was accused of verbally assaulting a student a few years ago. Parents got a lawyer involved, went to the media and government, phoned every other family in the class at home to report that their children were being assaulted. The student admitted to making the whole thing up a few days later after no other students backed up her story. The parents dd not apologize to my colleague.

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    Gwyn
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had similar issues with a different diagnosis for my child who is in the USA and has a 504. I have never yelled at a teacher though a few have done similar things. One school never fixed it and I had to move her to a different school. Since then I have still had it happen twice in three years. I sent an email describing the situation to no less than 4 people at the new school titled "504 violation". When it is in writing they fix it pretty quickly at this one.

    Remi Flynne
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly - put it in writing! Advocate calmly for your child. It always works better - no-one can point a finger at you then for ANY reason. I feel much sympathy for this father and don't blame him for his anger AT ALL but it rarely benefits the situation. If they're prepared to lie they might say he was out of control, so don't ever give them an excuse. You go in cold, with logic, medical records and reason on your side. The principal is then more likely to be happy to help if there are future problems (though don't go the otherway and be a pushover). Your child sounds like she has a great parent on her side.

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    katiekat0214
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Retired teacher here, and there are so many more factors in play here. First of all, the parent has no clue about the overall discipline in that one period. I had a few years where one class out of five had real issues with impulsivity, constant standing up, constantly having to be reminded to get back on task, so that I was putting out fires way more than teaching. That one kid who never caused any problems, which it sounds like this kid was, an overall good kid... if that one kid also contributed to classroom chaos, everything could go to hell in a handbasket very quickly. Kids take cues from other kids. You also don't know what is going on with the teacher. Life happens, and the teacher could well be under real-life stress too. Yelling isn't appropriate, but sometimes happens in classes without much discipline that hasn't yet been internalized. That age group matures at all different paces.

    Say No to Downvoting
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do wonder how high school teachers can really keep tabs on and remember the intricate details of their students when they do have SO MANY students to deal with. My son is autistic and is about to start high school (mainstream) in a couple of weeks. I have been assured that all his teachers will know his condition and while he is a very well behaved kid it’s not impossible that he will occasionally get up or talk out of turn or maybe do something that causes a minor disruption - will teachers really remember “ah, that’s the kid with autism” and handle that appropriately or will he get shouted at? Similarly, did this teacher have so many details to remember about these kids, she forgot that this one was the fainty one? Of course she still should have responded differently. But high school teachers have so much on their plate.

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    ginshun
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Being made to cry is the least that she should have gotten.

    notlikeyou1971
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA Sorry but I have not pity for the teacher and her tears. She's at fault here. Her crying should be the least of the school's worries. They were aware of your child's medical issue and this teacher decided to scream at your child. I have some words they should worry about. DISHONESTY, NEGLECT, CHILD ENDANGERMENT, PERSONAL INJURY, LAWSUIT. Do those words mean more than than a few minutes of her tears? Maybe this will TEACH her some things. HONESTY, ACCOUNTABILITY, COMPASSION, EMPATHY, CAUTION. Isn't that what parents and teachers are supposed to reinforce?

    Ornery Owl 🦉
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a teacher, and whenever one of my students says they don't feel well—for many different reasons—I always send them to the nurse, I want to make sure the school nurse is aware and they can call parents, if needed.

    Lousha
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The yelling was perfectly appropriate, the teacher should be thankful she was not physically accosted. When I was little and got hurt at school because of some a***hole teachers and a nurse, the only reason my dad did not march into the school right away because - even though he's a very peaceful man - he knew he would not have been able to restrain himself, and if he went to prison on assault charges, his kids would have gone without. But it took all his strength to not go and raise hell.

    Lousha
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On a side note, one thing this OP could've done better is to raise his kid to have more agency. From a small age me and my siblings were told to never yield to authority if we felt unsafe. In general obey your teachers, be respectful to adults etc., but if anyone tells you something you think will endangere you or humiliate you, you refuse and tell them to get bent and call your parents. Eg if you feel you'll faint, tell your teacher but do NOT ask for permission, get on the floor right away. Your parents can sort it with the teacher later, but if you're hurt, you might be hurt forever. I had much lesser health issues, but when they arose they required immediate treatment, so I was taught to call my dad if I felt ill, he picked me up right away from shcool, and he called the school to tell them where I went. I did not waste time trying to find a power-hungry teacher and try to argue with them about how ill I felt according to them.

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    Kristen Sharp
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have seriously bad anemia (which could kill me if not kept in check!) and I'm menopausal. I'm not saying I've got something worse than this poor child, but when I feel the hot flash coming, I need to lie down or sit or else my legs will literally turn to rubber and I'll pass out. My mother tells me that she never had that happen to her that way, but I can only tell her "it's just something else for me to deal with." I've had it happen a couple of times at work and if someone came at me like that teacher did to that boy... whoa nelly!

    Campy
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Was she reduced to tears or did she use tears to avoid responsibility and garner sympathy? Poor widdle baby.

    The Starsong Princess
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You lost the moral high ground when you yelled at the teacher. You need to keep your cool while enviscerating these people. You should have made her cry without raising your voice. Then when she cried, you say “I’m glad to see you are upset, it’s the first indication I’ve seen that you understand the seriousness of your actions.” say to the principal “I’m going to need the following 1) a copy of teacher’s formal reprimand 2) a written plan to prevent this happening again 3) an apology to my son in front of the class. I’d like to get this resolved right here so I don’t have to escalate this further.”

    Lucas
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You do have to be careful when letting anger overwhelm, even for good reasons like this father had. The problem is that it can easily go against you if the school claims that you were out of control, that they feared violence etc. You are right that it gives them some moral high ground to claim and you don't want that at all. Being calm and cold is always going to be the better bet. Yet, it is SO understandable. He was scared for his son and then appalled at the lies. I'm not sure I'd have behaved any better but then I do have a few anger problems (thanks dad for the childhood issues...). So while you are right, it's not always that easy. Keeping calm would make it harder for the principal to take the teacher's side - there would be less to defend. There was a room full of witnesses, the school should investigate and then ensure that the teacher is dealt with AND make sure that other teachers know how to look after this boy and ensure he is believed.

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    brandyy17
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wen i was diagnosed with epilepsy one of my teachers didnt believe i had it bc zoning out and just staring wasnt a seizure in her eyes. i was 13 or 14 wen this happened. i was walking to my desk and had a seizure while right before i went to sit down. i become totally unresponsive and like im in a frozen state. cant hear, see or feel anything wen this happens. even my mind goes blank. according to my friend my teacher was yelling at me, shaking me and eventually pushed me towards my seat which resulted in me hitting my head on the chair then desk then the floor. my friend said she notice a quick glimpse that i snapped out of it right before i hit the chair. my friends, other classmates even the class bully all told the principle the exact same thing my friend did. he spoke to them one by one since its known students didnt like the teacher in question. i woke up in the hospital and learned not only did i have a seizure but a concussion as well. my parents showed the medical papers from my hospital trip to the principle and he fired that teacher on the spot since she fully ignored my docuemented medical condition and was the cause of my concussion. all my other teachers were always on alert for seizures. wenever they noticed it theyd stop the lesson stand or sit near me until i snapped out of it then theyd have another student (usually a friend) bring me to the nurses office. this psycho teacher was the only one who didnt follow the guidelines set by my doctor. i remember the principal telling me that he was originally going to swap teachers and make sure im never in her class again but my parents, my friends parents and parents of my other classmates all requested she b fired bc they feared for their childrens safety around her. i only asked y she was fired bc i didnt remember anything. i havent had a seizure randomly since 2009. only ones ive had were either due to me getting covid, a severe injury (major pain is a trigger) or extremely sick like severe pnuemonia or the flu. those situations i have grand mals which r the falling and shaking ones. my seizures do result in memory loss or damage to the memory part of my brain so school was rough after awhile. i dislike impatient, rude, their rules and ideas r law teachers due to my experience. any child who experiences a teacher like that the parents r fully justified in reacting however they want whether its yelling or demanding the teacher b fired especially if its related to a childs medical condition or the child got injured in some way due to negligence.

    Uncle Schmickle
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    16 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A narcissistic ignoramus of a teacher. She deserved getting a blast from the father, after denying the boy did not tell her he was feeling ill. I hope she learns a lesson from this.

    DC
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She can scream at kids, but cries once the fallout of her stupid behaviour comes back home? Oh how typical that is. Sorry to all reasonable teachers, but ... it doesn't surprise me, neither of all of this does. People who aren't able to stand up to adults, but abuse power over kids, have a special place in my heart since I had been placed under the command of such for 14 years, which they call "education". Seems rather unfit for a teaching position, she...

    Myoviridae
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If this happened in college, then the prof/instructor would have called 911 immediately, followed by seeing if they could assist the student (while still on the phone to emergency services).

    George D
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Item 4 on his expounded details is where the NTA lies. She was already aware of his condition. One thing is for certain, after this brow beating that put her in tears I'll bet she'll never behave the same way in a similar situation in the future again.

    Ginger ninja
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA the teacher was probably crying to be manipulative. OP’s son has a whole classroom full of witnesses and if the school knows about and has a plan in place for his fainting and teacher deliberately ignored it causing OP’s son to hurt himself its time to take it higher than the head teacher and also to lawyer up

    Mary Allan
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The father should talk to a solicitor and take legal action against the school and the teacher involved. It's the only language school teacher Bullies understand. Also go to the education authority above the head as well. This bully teacher needs removing. The behaviour was completely unacceptable and dangerous for the student.

    DC
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're too harsh too fast. Your solution may prove necessary, your entire point may prove right, but that isn't as of yet. It's not clear to me if her - doubtlessly hideous - behaviour was her regular, or if that sort of antics is an exception. Anyway, she seems to have understood the wrong in it, and might reevaluate her handling of similar situations, while any new teacher to replace her, may be worse, and also didn't learn this lesson yet. Punishment shouldn't be the major goal, but prevention of such, regardless of it is her teaching, or somebody else. I don't agree with you in total, but upvoted to even out the down, because this only leads to the most deserving-of-being-debated comments being unanswerable. Which sucks even worse than that fücked up autocensor-BS.

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    Kate Johnson
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Too bad so sad for "crying" teacher. She deserved to cry for that kind of disgusting, dishonest and irresponsible behavior.

    Chris the Bobcat
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have blown the fvck up too. If someone doesn't respond to polite requests, I don't mind going full feral Karen on them if it gets the damn point across. Sometimes a bit of overkill is required to get through to some people.

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