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People Are Sharing What They Realized About The US Only After Moving To Live Elsewhere (30 Pics)
When we call one country or another our home, in reality, we live in a tight bubble where the things we eat, ways we communicate, and stuff we call normal is only natural as long as we don’t exit it. But it takes as little as a single vacation abroad and as much as changing countries, to see your views and customs starting to shift.
So one redditor turned to Americans living abroad and asked them a seemingly simple, yet very telling question: “how has your view of the world changed since you moved out of the US?”
Sooner than we knew it, the answers came flooding in with expats sharing stuff they experienced in foreign places. Turns out, some of these experiences have changed the way Americans look at their home country from the very core of it.
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#1
Moved to the UK 4 1/2 years ago. I had a sneaking suspicion that America wasn't as great as we were led to believe, but now I know. The ability to go to the doctor when you need to, and not worry about having to pay a massive bill is indescribable. The UK has its problems, for sure, but just knowing that if I get hurt or get sick that the NHS will take care of me is an amazing and wonderful feeling. Thank you to everyone at the NHS!!!
Limey Cheesehead 3 years ago
Totally agree with your statement. I'm American, but have lived in the UK for 32 years. The NHS may not be perfect, but it's very reassuring that if someone in my family gets sick, we don't have to go broke.
Bored Panda reached out to Kacie Burns, an American actress, dancer, and singer currently living in Florence, Italy who went viral for her fun and lighthearted TikTok videos on cultural quirks of the birthplace of the Renaissance. We previously wrote about her in this article!
We asked her how living in Italy has changed her views about life, and Kacie assured us that it has definitely taught her a lot about “remembering to enjoy my life. Eat the pastry. Take a day off work. Go sit in a park just to enjoy the sunshine.”
“It's ok to grind the pavement—something I admire about Americans and the US—but life isn't just all about the hustle, and living here has taught me to slow down and not let life pass by,” Kacie said.
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#2
Over 20 years now outside of the US, mostly in the UK but also spent some time in a few other places.
Realising how brainwashed the average American is. Reciting the pledge of allegiance every day at school, prayer groups at school, staying in sh**ty jobs for the sh**ty healthcare, no sick days, no vacation days, no maternity leave, no universal healthcare, crazy university debt, the list goes on and on and it's crazy. It's not normal.
#3
There’s so much less daily pressure in my adopted country. It’s hard to explain. It’s like walking out of a crowded, harshly lit, loud room into a calm cool night. My phone isn’t exploding with telemarketers. I don’t live in fear of my healthcare disappearing. I can bike to work, where I make a living wage that lets me actually live. My weekends are respected. I can live simply with no expectation to hustle and grind. I feel free.
Centu Rionick 3 years ago
The fact that there needs to be an item on whether or not the US is as great as they think or examples to disprove that, says enough. the US is nothing more or less than any other country in the world, I don't see other countries on here posting their greatness or doubts on that. US has a terrible gun law, mass poverty, crazy health care system, i dont know how much percentage of immigrants and yet they are the ones invading each and every country for no reason and being the bully in the back of the classroom shouting the loudest. No US, you suck, you don't need a whole article to realize this.
#4
I lived in Japan for a couple of years, and as a Black artist, I received respect there that I have never experienced in Texas.
When it comes to things she likes about Italy that we don’t have in the US, Kacie said it’s “The understanding that not everything has to be a race, politics, or a competition.” On the other hand, “Italian bureaucracy can be a challenge sometimes—I'm from NYC where things move quickly, and sometimes I definitely miss the hustle and organization that NYC has!”
#5
For me, it was just how abysmal public transportation and urban planning are in the US.
We have such awful public transportation and we design most of our cities in a way that makes it nearly impossible to ever get around without a car.
Giant parking lots, 10-lane highways, no sidewalks, huge roads with cars moving at highway speeds, non-existent bicycle infrastructure, zoning that bans density, etc.
Did you know that Atlanta and Barcelona have similar populations (in their metros) but Atlanta takes up 10x as much land? That's how bad sprawl is in the US, especially in the Sun Belt.
Walkable cities and good public transportation are just so good for quality of life, in my opinion.
Stefan Scheiben 3 years ago
Living in a slightly remote German subburb, I still can count on a bus going every 15 minutes to the next bigger city, along with a regional train system that gets me nearly everywhere much faster than by car. In the inner city, cars are clearly not the top priority, and large portions of it are pedestrian zones. Instead of searching for parking spaces or standing in traffic jams, you get around much faster either by bus or by subway. Also, there are "bicycle highways" and lots of cycle roads. I do not drive my car into the city if I can avoid it.
#6
Living in the Netherlands…life doesn’t have to be so hard. It doesn’t need to be a competition over who owns the most stuff. National anthems do not need to be played at sporting events. Buy quality, not quantity. Take good care of your neighborhood, for there is not free land available down the road. Let nature be nature, not a place for you to show off your atv. Yards are silly.
Fish Boden 3 years ago
This is great but, yards are brilliant. As an avid gardener I get depressed when I can't grow beautiful or tasty things.
#7
One thing that strikes me is that everyone else in the world has an opinion on the US, often strong emotions, both good and bad. I was sitting in Seoul airport and a Korean man chatted me up, asking me where I'm from. He was very grateful to US soldiers when I told him I was American. Other times Europeans think we're really stupid because of our lack of worker protection and universal healthcare (and they are very cognizant of things like our higher maternal mortality rate which most Americans don't know).
I think that changed my view of the world: America is entangled in everybody's business. Our soft power with things like movies, songs, and video games and products like Coke and Starbucks penetrates the whole world. The reverse is not often true - many things that are near universal don't make it into the US.
Getting off the American thing, I realized most people want the same things in life and most people from any country just want to get along. It's the government and the elite that try to pit people groups against each other. I consider China and Russia to be outright enemies of the US, but I'm friends with people from those countries and they're good people, trying to live their life, raise their kids, and have a little fun.
Also, everybody is racist. In the US, we're displaying that in public and there's an actual effort to fix it. That's not always the case with other countries - some are perfectly content to remain biased against other races.
Most importantly, Kacie said that “every country has their good and bad points, and talking about what we like and don't like doesn't have to turn into a debate over which country is better or worse.” Essentially, “We're all human,” she said and concluded with an important message: “No matter where we're from, we have something to offer, because at the end of the day we all want the same things—health, love, happiness. It's important that we listen and learn from each other, and in that way we can ALL live more fulfilling lives.”
#8
I've realized that people in the US know really NOTHING about other countries and couldn't really care less. (My son''s MIL asked me if I had indoor plumbing.)
I've been living in my new home for about 20 years and for the last few years, I want to kneel and kiss the ground here and be so happy that I am NOT still living in the US. I still have family there but I don't even want to visit the country.
#9
I’ve learned a lot about compassion and patience. I’ve lived out of the country for 5-years, in a 3rd world country. You see how consumerism now defines many aspects of life in the US, keeping up with the Jones’s and taking on tremendous debt to do so. The media drives it and it’s reinforced by both media and society. Many people are defined by their stuff.
I’ve learned that you can be brilliant mentally, artistically and super innovative in business but not have discretionary income. But you can have friends and family and free time and, most importantly, happiness. Here few define themselves by their job and their title - it’s a job not life. I’ve learned that spending time with others simply to listen to them and get to know them, for the sake of knowing them (not networking nor trying to advance an agenda) brings about more happiness for me. I’ve disassociated my professional life from my personal life and as a result am far happier than I could have ever imagined
#10
Crime. I went from living in D.C. at the height of the crack epidemic in the 80s, where carjackings were invented, to Germany where you couldn't even lock your Mercedes from the inside.
#11
I’m sure others have said it but universal healthcare is such an obvious thing when you live in a country with a system in place. I really don’t get why we can’t get our own people behind the idea.
#12
So much. Where do I begin. My view has become more proportional, the world is interconnected and much smaller than I ever imagined. There are as**oles everywhere. Everywhere has its own slew of issues. It’s not about wage but the lifestyle that goes with it. For example in Italy I made pennies but the lifestyle was rich and relaxed. Minimum wage in Australia is fantastic and the lifestyle is easy going. London it’s high stress for a good paying job but great fun. Basically the lifestyle is what matters. I can’t speak for everywhere in America but I left because I couldn’t handle the hierarchical view of career, the stress and the 2 week vacation per year trap. What you do is who you are, at least from my experience, and I wanted a mental shift.
#13
The facade of American exceptionalism starts to fade the longer you spend away.
#14
I have lived in England for 17 years originally from the East coast of the US.
I have no problem walking around at night in my town or most cities here in England. Back in the US I wouldn't do this.
My world view expanded. I know more about stuff outside the US now. I work in a global firm and it is obvious who has never been outsider the US when you talk to them.
I still can't make a proper cup of tea. But I prefer green tea and coffee.
The book Watching the English helped me understand the people here a bit better. The book The Culture Map helped me understand people around the world a bit better.
I can find just about any food over here now so I don't even miss that.
We have the NHS, less work hours and a better work life balance overall.
#15
I lived abroad for about 8 years all together (New Zealand, Netherlands, and Canada) before moving back to the USA for a job I couldn't turn down.
First of all, there is a really good adage that "in Europe, 100 kilometers (or miles) is a long distance, but in America 100 years is a long time." The Netherlands is so tiny that you would be hard pressed to remain within its borders if you drove just 3 hours in any direction from where I lived, with cute towns the entire way, and that was just the standard distance I drove to get home when I was in university (with nothing in between). Meanwhile, the house I lived in was built in the 1600s and there was nothing weird about that, which is a sheer marvel to any American who visited. I suppose both of these applied on some level when living in Canada/NZ too- maybe it's more an "Old World" versus "New World" distinction.
The other one that's worth noting is how a lot of American politics and outlook is a bit like how if you throw a frog into a boiling pot of water, it will jump out immediately. However, if you slowly raise the pot to a boil, the frog will never jump out. There's a lot of things in the USA that are horrific and, IMO, it's just a culture afraid of so much these days. It certainly wasn't when I was younger, and a lot of the politics would be incomprehensible even a decade ago but are part of mainstream conversation. That's a real shame.
#16
I have lived in Mexico 3 years now. I’ve come to realize that the entire world does not revolve around what’s going on in the US. Even the mexico is a very close neighbor, you can go so many days without having any idea what’s going on, which is awesome honestly. I don’t vote here, so I don’t also really care what’s going on with Mexican politics either. Whenever I go back home, I realize how much of the day is spent in the US in fear of doing something wrong, breaking a rule, or just kinda being in fear. The level of anxiety of most people is extremely high in the US. Even though I will always love my home, I realize that when I live in the US, I’m constantly in fear of being “forced” into major debt via medical bills, an accident, rent etc. I don’t even have insurance in Mexico, even when I’ve had to go to the hospital or see a specialist, it’s so unbelievably affordable for extremely good care.
Becky Samuel 3 years ago
The nutsack on these guys berating Mexico for having cartels when it's the USA's completely failed 'War on Drugs' that created the cartels in the first place. It's very telling that the worst places in Mexico are along the border.
#17
I moved from California to Sydney, Australia about 10 years ago. The obvious ones like healthcare and paying people a living wage are hard for me to see what it's like in the US. I love the US but just to visit now. I wouldn't want to raise my kids there.
Kt 3 years ago
I'm from the UK and the first time I visited New York (2007) I was adamant i was going to move to NYC (LOL) . Went back in 2017 for another holiday and even the locals, who were planning on growing old there, were saying how they would be leaving 😢 I do still love to visit in short periods though.
#18
I’ve had the good fortune of living on 4 continents, and in each place outside of America I’ve felt like my brain was on vacation.
Amanda Hunter 3 years ago
I agree, living in the US is like being chained to a fast-moving tread mill.
#19
Well, I moved to Canada like 3.5 months ago, my expectations were not that good, but damn i was wrong, clean streets, friendly people, lower taxes, cheaper and effective healthcare and police working fine, but I feel really bad for Litton that burned down.
Susan Green 3 years ago (edited)
Welcome. I was born in Canada, and have lived here my entire life. I have travelled to many places in America, but have never lived there. I was horrified that Lytton burned down too, but so much of British Columbia, where I live, has so many out of control fires right now, I fear Lytton may not be the only community to burn to the ground. My husband and I have been on evacuation alert for a week now, and I’m so stressed right now, that I’m having trouble sleeping.
#20
I'm in the States now, but I lived in Japan for a few years when I was younger, and it changed a lot of things for me. Mostly, I realized the value of things like socialized medicine and a social safety net in general. I also came to really admire and adopt the cultural attitude that doing something "great" is less important than simply doing your best at whatever you do -- ultimately, it shed me of my tendency to mentally classify jobs as "respectable" and "not respectable."
OTOH, my upbringing taught me to question authority and value truth and individuality, and many of the conflicts I had with Japanese culture ultimately reinforced all of those things. ...Although at the time, I hadn't realized how many of my fellow Americans could and would ultimately take those values to bizarre and dangerous extremes.
Mewton’s Third Paw 3 years ago
Doing something great is meaningless really. Living your best life is what’s important. Not being important.
#21
I grew up in California but I’ve lived in a couple of different countries. I would say the first thing I noticed within the first week of living outside the US is that most foreigners were incredibly hospitable and even excited to share their culture with me. Americans could care less about the rest of the world. Another thing I quickly noticed was that Americans are loud people.
#22
Spent some time in Italy, I went from Florence to Rome and stopped in tons of tiny villages on the way, life outside the United States is a lot slower paced. People aren’t running from one place to another to get things done. This might be for Italy only but everyone was just slowed down compared to the states.
#23
I did a masters degree in the UK and man, my view of America really changed.
We’re loud. Like really damn loud and way too excited all the time over the littlest things. We like to over exaggerate and profess things out in the open. If countries had a personality, America would be the no-boundaries, over sharing extrovert and England is the tight lipped, unfeeling introvert.
But damn when I was over there, I miss my country - how positive and cheerful and friendly we all are. I didn’t quite catch on to British “humour” (lol) and they found me too loud and obnoxious. I felt like I had to tone down my personality there.
Also I felt judged lol. I went to a writing tutorial session and the tutor immediately asked me “English is not your first language, no?” And I’m like “wtf I’m speaking perfect English now”. And she’s like “Oh American English is not the same as English English. DAMNN WTF
Anyways as much as I loved the culture and rich history and Jaffa cakes and cucumber sandwiches during tea time across the pond, America will always be my home.
#24
I was fortunate enough to live in Japan for almost 5 years. If living there and traveling the region showed me anything it's that we as Americans are not only extremely fortunate but quite ignorant and abrasive as well when It comes to most topics.
Now I love America and what she stands for but the people in it are as rotten as they come. Respect for people and their things is just flat out not a forethought anymore here. Other countries to include Japan obviously have faults, major ones as well but the societal norms in America are f**ked beyond belief.
Also, we do education very wrong compared to some places I've been.
here comes the, " then you should just leave then" clowns
#25
Moved to a major EU country.
US is the land of Loud people, parking lots, commercials and advertisements, expensive healthcare, Backwards thinking on education and work culture, fake personality and politeness, severe lack of mental health care and creation of a sudo happy life presentation to the world, lack of community, lack of world view, lack of empathy, lack of cultural understanding, self centered global view politically, people are generally more manipulative and see to exploit others for their own gain, absolute disregard for protection of natural resources (epa what a joke), fake belief that there isn’t a cast system and can easily move between economic classes, uneducated police and far too much religious zealotry. Terrible public transport even in major cities with public transport like NY or San Fran.
But on the good side, there is lots of outdoor space away for people, good bbq and other restaurant foods, entrepreneurial culture, bourbon and whisky, availability of goods and resources, inexpensive land if you choose to fine it, relaxed bureaucracy.
Similarities are many. Both have hillbillies and rednecks, rich people who are above the law as long as they have the right skin color or religion in their community, too much plastic use, a strong car culture, diverse interest in extra activities (sure there isn’t a huge gun culture here but other activities replaces that).
#26
Went to Nicaragua and life was much more relaxed, no rush in things, focus on family and enjoying life.
Before, I used to dream about living in a Downtown Miami skyscraper and drive a Tesla. Walking from my safe residencial through the slums everyday and seeing how hard people work in Nicaragua to make pennies made me realize just how important each and every dollar we make is, we as Americans waste money on so many things that aren’t important in the grand scheme of things.
Also it was crazy seeing how going to a private doctor/hospital without insurance was cheaper than going to an American hospital with insurance
#27
I lived and worked for two years in Germany in the 90s, and I presently live in Japan, where I’ve been for a dozen years and will probably remain. I have a house, and a bilingual child who goes to public school.
Both countries are different from the US, and different from each other. But OP asked how my view has changed about the US. I’ve been away from the US for a quarter of my life. It’s been a couple of years since I was last there. Unlike many of the respondents in this thread, I feel like my view of America is frozen in the past. Obama had just been elected, 9-11 was still fresh in everyone’s memory. That America has changed dramatically. My only view of America since that time is filtered through the internet or indirectly through the few people I remain in contact with. I kind of feel like I don’t recognize America anymore.
#28
I have been living outside of USA for more than a decade now. I would say that my world view hasn't changed that much, but my view on the US has. I know there are so many wonderful people and places there, but I can't overlook all of the bad.
Catherine Spencer-Mills 3 years ago
I feel the same way about politics in the US. When young, I was an independent, trying to select the most qualified candidate, not a particular party. Now, some people consider me somewhere to the left of Karl Marx. But I feel my views haven't changed, but the politics have.
#29
Traveled pretty well. Studied veterinary medicine in Germany. Been to Paris - boring, awful, dirty, got pickpockets & police didn't help had to catch the girl myself, absolutely fantastic bakery though. Been to England, lovely but the drinking culture is something else. America is loud & angry & just FULL of awful, processed foods. Going to a butcher or a bakery is lovely in many parts of the world but America? Fresh from frozen may as well be the motto. Vegetables are awful. Eat an Italian tomato & you'll never touch a beefsteak tomato again. Having an American accent is a severe disadvantage so far. Seems to automatically put people on guard in case I'll be rude.
WilvanderHeijden 3 years ago
I don't think that an American accent puts people on guard. C'est le ton qui fait la musique. So it might be that the person writing this, has a way of speaking that puts people on guard.
#30
I’ve been in Mexico, Germany, Kuwait and Afghanistan. Everyone I met are wonderful people, minding their own business and trying to live their lives. They were all friendly, willing and eager to show me their culture and share food. We’d all share similarities between our countries and differences and no one ever took offense. Politics were the last things we talked about and if it was brought up, they told me things in their countries they didn’t like
What do you think ?
Caro Caro 3 years ago
I think a younger, more social generation is starting to stand up in the USA and will change things for the better. Healthcare, education and safety (gun control) will be their priority.
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
They were my generation's priority too to some extent, but we're facing some serious $$$$$ interests, and no matter where you are, money talks louder than common sense, it seems. Still gonna vote for the better future, work for it, but I just hope you're right.... I hope my godkids become the change we tried to be!
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Anne 3 years ago
Interesting to read they feel racism is worse outside the US. I have been to over 20 countries, the only two where racism was palpable were China and the US. (China among themselves, not to visitors so much, although we were looked at and laughed at, but that's just Chinese people that never had seen foreigners)
Katchen 3 years ago
I think ones experience with racism will vary quite a bit depending upon their own race. I mean, as a whitey I can blend in a lot of countries and not experience palpable racism, but my experience in those same countries may be completely different if I weren’t white.
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Eslamala 3 years ago (edited)
"aNoThEr 'mUriCa bAsHinG pOsT" ...it's funny how a whole nation was forced to believe they're the greatest country in the world and can't tolerate actual fckn evidence of how idiotic they were for never questioning whether that was actually true. The fact that the rest of the world doesn't worship a country, doesn't mean they hate it, you overly sensitive morons. Every country in the world has flaws. All of them. The U.S is not the exception. You people need to read and travel more, apparently. I was born in the U.S and lived there half my life. I've also been lucky to have lived in 27 cities in 8 different countries. All of which had good and bad stuff. The only difference? None of the places I've lived in had their people brainwashed into believing they're the greatest country in the world. Nor did they worship moronic shït like flags, anthems and other symbols.
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
First of all, we aren't forced. Some of us do think for ourselves. Second, I've visited several countries around the world and found racism, idiocy and nationalism everywhere to some degree.... so I don't find this America bashing, just what Americans find out when they move overseas, and compare it. Most people do that when they go overseas. I suggest you meet some Brits. They're very devoted to their identity, and that's where the US got it from: The Mother Country. However, you'll never believe that the entire US isn't Trump, just as you'll never believe you could be wrong, too, so I'll sign off now, and wish you the best of life! Cheers!
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Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
I am wondering who these Americans are/were when they went overseas. I've been asked some weird AF questions about America, and I've asked some silly ones (silly to natives of that place, at least), and people seem generally friendly and polite anywhere I've gone, save my UK in-laws, but they'd be jerks in any country (and that's my husband's opinion on the fam!).... I may have a rotten accent, but they appreciate my attempts at the language(s), and not expecting them to speak English, etc. So.... maybe we need a more courteous America?
Tracy Sellars 3 years ago
After what I have learned about the US I realised it is basically run like a cult. Residents worship and blindly follow the ideology of the leaders, even to their own detriment. Heaven help if you don't. People actually are okay with being treat poorly (over worked, under paid, no healthcare), okay with inhuman treatment of others because the powers that be say it's okay. Have a false sense and unrealistic view of what is actually going on. Seriously if you compare the goings on in a cult with the US it is disturbingly similar.
Renae Dougherty 3 years ago
Love hearing people bash on America when it's the few that have tarnished the many.
Natalie Oleander 3 years ago
No quite. We used to be a great country. We lost that. We treat each other like trash. The country is divided more than ever before. Healthcare is for the rich. There is very little employers who value their workers and treat them well. I could go on but I'm not sure you'd even care.
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Londono Sierra 3 years ago
My parent migrated to America in the late 60s. I left in the 90 my parents left with Trump. We're grateful for America being a refuge, for giving me a country, but my private education considered the best in Mi does not compare to the complete academic bachelourat of public schools here. I struggled with my incipient education. The anglocentric education I received was erroneous. We're happy, safe
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
Yeah, euro-centric history tends to be problematic. I was fortunate that my mom's family isn't from the US, and that meant we had a very different view of things. (That is, more global.) I was blessed to make what I could of what I was given, but I'm not ignorant of the problems.
Load More Replies... Michael Se 3 years ago
It's funny how Americans living elsewhere are "expats" and never "emigrants". And would never call themselves "immigrants". And why not "healthcare refugees"? I call myself a tech refugee, having been forced to leave my hometown by tech companies displacing everyone under a certain economic level. "Expats" *eyeroll* nice you have the means to move somewhere to escape the exploitation.
Curry on... 3 years ago
I've always been interested in trying life in other countries. My dream would have been to spend 2-5 years in different places, ideally long enough to learn the language and the culture. However, requirements for immigrating, or just working, in other countries is not easy. At the time I was able to give it serious consideration, I couldn't pass the income test for other countries, or wrap my head around double taxation (to the country I'd work in and the US, unless I gave up US citizenship). Very discouraging and disappointing.
Rachel Borowyckyj 3 years ago
I am born and raised in Australia, and I am really shocked everytime I hear about anything like healthcare in America. Its is really shocking the American way of life.
Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago
So you believe there are no non-white expats? If so, well done for being both wrong and racist.
Load More Replies... Natalie Oleander 3 years ago
If I could convince my parents to move, I'd ditch this country (US) in a second. My parents pay a insane amount of money for my moms multiple sclerosis, and the cost of living for me is outrageous. I'd have to work 80 hours a week to even begin to feel comfortable. And I have a degree with a fantastic job. I'd rather swim than float. This country used to be great but that is long gone.
Kimberly Buchanan 3 years ago
I feel that some stuff is only true, if you choose it. I know it's in 'general,' the comments are for the views of America. I've never thought it was 'perfect,' nothing is. I personally don't define myself or anyone else by their job, don't worship material items, don't live above my means or any of the other things of that nature. I also know several people that are the same way. I enjoy my life, family and friends. I love learning. Especially about people in general, other cultures, ways of life, etc. I also feel that is a choice for each person makes for themselves. All countries have good and bad, from the smallest things to the bigger things. I've worked with people from other countries and I have gotten along with them. I have friends that are from other countries. My son in law is from Mexico and we learn and educate one another.
Kayla J 3 years ago
Some of these Americans make me cringe with how naive they were and I wonder if they ever realized they were part of the problem themselves.
William Patrick 3 years ago
I've been outside the USA on many, many occasions, and spent considerable time in many other countries, and I'll be the first to admit America is a f****d-up place on many levels. But on the other hand, when you are the only one on I-40 in the Mojave desert, in a 69 Camaro, smoking a joint, and 'Hotel California' comes on the radio, who cares?
SumoNinja 3 years ago
I've lived in the US and Canada, and visited about a dozen other countries for long enough to form a general opinion... And my take is that the US isn't the best at much, but is in the top 10 for most things, which on it's own is pretty exceptional. And they are at or near the top for anything entertainment related and in scientific research. Trouble is they fall far down the list on the most core things, like financial and social equality.
Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago (edited)
It is not in the top 10 for many indices ... but it score high for murders compared to other developed / western countries.
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AnnaBanana 3 years ago
God, the self-loathing in many of these posts was off the scale! Every country has its good and bad. Personally, I love America and Americans!
Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago
How is honestly recounting their experiences self-loathing?
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Tiny Dynamine 3 years ago
Before you start screaming like babies, these posts were written by Americans. Take a deep breath and think about what you can say in that respect.
Grant Barke 3 years ago
Well, after reading all this. Its obvious, the USA is really the great satan.
Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago
Oppression and destruction? Reasonable summary of US foreign policy since 1945.
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Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago
And our thanks to Brett for his speech. In the foyer he'll be selling foil hats and his self-published books of his ramblings based on extensive watching of YouTube and his untreated psychosis.
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Ozacoter 3 years ago
If you call lack of public services like healthcare or public transport "values'...
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Q B F T 3 years ago
Saf why do you doubt that 33 separate expats wrote these? I've met a lot of American expats, and most express these views, doesn't seem surprising to me? And it's not so much US-bashing, it's usually framed with "USA is the best country in the world BUT... I do wish we had a proper healthcare system" etc.
Load More Replies... Caro Caro 3 years ago
I think a younger, more social generation is starting to stand up in the USA and will change things for the better. Healthcare, education and safety (gun control) will be their priority.
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
They were my generation's priority too to some extent, but we're facing some serious $$$$$ interests, and no matter where you are, money talks louder than common sense, it seems. Still gonna vote for the better future, work for it, but I just hope you're right.... I hope my godkids become the change we tried to be!
Load More Replies... Anne 3 years ago
Interesting to read they feel racism is worse outside the US. I have been to over 20 countries, the only two where racism was palpable were China and the US. (China among themselves, not to visitors so much, although we were looked at and laughed at, but that's just Chinese people that never had seen foreigners)
Katchen 3 years ago
I think ones experience with racism will vary quite a bit depending upon their own race. I mean, as a whitey I can blend in a lot of countries and not experience palpable racism, but my experience in those same countries may be completely different if I weren’t white.
Load More Replies... Eslamala 3 years ago (edited)
"aNoThEr 'mUriCa bAsHinG pOsT" ...it's funny how a whole nation was forced to believe they're the greatest country in the world and can't tolerate actual fckn evidence of how idiotic they were for never questioning whether that was actually true. The fact that the rest of the world doesn't worship a country, doesn't mean they hate it, you overly sensitive morons. Every country in the world has flaws. All of them. The U.S is not the exception. You people need to read and travel more, apparently. I was born in the U.S and lived there half my life. I've also been lucky to have lived in 27 cities in 8 different countries. All of which had good and bad stuff. The only difference? None of the places I've lived in had their people brainwashed into believing they're the greatest country in the world. Nor did they worship moronic shït like flags, anthems and other symbols.
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
First of all, we aren't forced. Some of us do think for ourselves. Second, I've visited several countries around the world and found racism, idiocy and nationalism everywhere to some degree.... so I don't find this America bashing, just what Americans find out when they move overseas, and compare it. Most people do that when they go overseas. I suggest you meet some Brits. They're very devoted to their identity, and that's where the US got it from: The Mother Country. However, you'll never believe that the entire US isn't Trump, just as you'll never believe you could be wrong, too, so I'll sign off now, and wish you the best of life! Cheers!
Load More Replies... Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
I am wondering who these Americans are/were when they went overseas. I've been asked some weird AF questions about America, and I've asked some silly ones (silly to natives of that place, at least), and people seem generally friendly and polite anywhere I've gone, save my UK in-laws, but they'd be jerks in any country (and that's my husband's opinion on the fam!).... I may have a rotten accent, but they appreciate my attempts at the language(s), and not expecting them to speak English, etc. So.... maybe we need a more courteous America?
Tracy Sellars 3 years ago
After what I have learned about the US I realised it is basically run like a cult. Residents worship and blindly follow the ideology of the leaders, even to their own detriment. Heaven help if you don't. People actually are okay with being treat poorly (over worked, under paid, no healthcare), okay with inhuman treatment of others because the powers that be say it's okay. Have a false sense and unrealistic view of what is actually going on. Seriously if you compare the goings on in a cult with the US it is disturbingly similar.
Renae Dougherty 3 years ago
Love hearing people bash on America when it's the few that have tarnished the many.
Natalie Oleander 3 years ago
No quite. We used to be a great country. We lost that. We treat each other like trash. The country is divided more than ever before. Healthcare is for the rich. There is very little employers who value their workers and treat them well. I could go on but I'm not sure you'd even care.
Load More Replies... Londono Sierra 3 years ago
My parent migrated to America in the late 60s. I left in the 90 my parents left with Trump. We're grateful for America being a refuge, for giving me a country, but my private education considered the best in Mi does not compare to the complete academic bachelourat of public schools here. I struggled with my incipient education. The anglocentric education I received was erroneous. We're happy, safe
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
Yeah, euro-centric history tends to be problematic. I was fortunate that my mom's family isn't from the US, and that meant we had a very different view of things. (That is, more global.) I was blessed to make what I could of what I was given, but I'm not ignorant of the problems.
Load More Replies... Michael Se 3 years ago
It's funny how Americans living elsewhere are "expats" and never "emigrants". And would never call themselves "immigrants". And why not "healthcare refugees"? I call myself a tech refugee, having been forced to leave my hometown by tech companies displacing everyone under a certain economic level. "Expats" *eyeroll* nice you have the means to move somewhere to escape the exploitation.
Curry on... 3 years ago
I've always been interested in trying life in other countries. My dream would have been to spend 2-5 years in different places, ideally long enough to learn the language and the culture. However, requirements for immigrating, or just working, in other countries is not easy. At the time I was able to give it serious consideration, I couldn't pass the income test for other countries, or wrap my head around double taxation (to the country I'd work in and the US, unless I gave up US citizenship). Very discouraging and disappointing.
Rachel Borowyckyj 3 years ago
I am born and raised in Australia, and I am really shocked everytime I hear about anything like healthcare in America. Its is really shocking the American way of life.
Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago
So you believe there are no non-white expats? If so, well done for being both wrong and racist.
Load More Replies... Natalie Oleander 3 years ago
If I could convince my parents to move, I'd ditch this country (US) in a second. My parents pay a insane amount of money for my moms multiple sclerosis, and the cost of living for me is outrageous. I'd have to work 80 hours a week to even begin to feel comfortable. And I have a degree with a fantastic job. I'd rather swim than float. This country used to be great but that is long gone.
Kimberly Buchanan 3 years ago
I feel that some stuff is only true, if you choose it. I know it's in 'general,' the comments are for the views of America. I've never thought it was 'perfect,' nothing is. I personally don't define myself or anyone else by their job, don't worship material items, don't live above my means or any of the other things of that nature. I also know several people that are the same way. I enjoy my life, family and friends. I love learning. Especially about people in general, other cultures, ways of life, etc. I also feel that is a choice for each person makes for themselves. All countries have good and bad, from the smallest things to the bigger things. I've worked with people from other countries and I have gotten along with them. I have friends that are from other countries. My son in law is from Mexico and we learn and educate one another.
Kayla J 3 years ago
Some of these Americans make me cringe with how naive they were and I wonder if they ever realized they were part of the problem themselves.
William Patrick 3 years ago
I've been outside the USA on many, many occasions, and spent considerable time in many other countries, and I'll be the first to admit America is a f****d-up place on many levels. But on the other hand, when you are the only one on I-40 in the Mojave desert, in a 69 Camaro, smoking a joint, and 'Hotel California' comes on the radio, who cares?
SumoNinja 3 years ago
I've lived in the US and Canada, and visited about a dozen other countries for long enough to form a general opinion... And my take is that the US isn't the best at much, but is in the top 10 for most things, which on it's own is pretty exceptional. And they are at or near the top for anything entertainment related and in scientific research. Trouble is they fall far down the list on the most core things, like financial and social equality.
Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago (edited)
It is not in the top 10 for many indices ... but it score high for murders compared to other developed / western countries.
Load More Replies... AnnaBanana 3 years ago
God, the self-loathing in many of these posts was off the scale! Every country has its good and bad. Personally, I love America and Americans!
Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago
How is honestly recounting their experiences self-loathing?
Load More Replies... Tiny Dynamine 3 years ago
Before you start screaming like babies, these posts were written by Americans. Take a deep breath and think about what you can say in that respect.
Grant Barke 3 years ago
Well, after reading all this. Its obvious, the USA is really the great satan.
Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago
Oppression and destruction? Reasonable summary of US foreign policy since 1945.
Load More Replies... Ninn Kynok 2 3 years ago
And our thanks to Brett for his speech. In the foyer he'll be selling foil hats and his self-published books of his ramblings based on extensive watching of YouTube and his untreated psychosis.
Load More Replies... Ozacoter 3 years ago
If you call lack of public services like healthcare or public transport "values'...
Load More Replies... Q B F T 3 years ago
Saf why do you doubt that 33 separate expats wrote these? I've met a lot of American expats, and most express these views, doesn't seem surprising to me? And it's not so much US-bashing, it's usually framed with "USA is the best country in the world BUT... I do wish we had a proper healthcare system" etc.
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