Many parents want to spark their kids’ interest in something that they themselves were—or still are—interested in.
But this redditor made sure that her children knew that they didn’t have to take part in an activity that they were not interested in. In her daughter’s case, it was cheerleading—something that the girl’s dad’s new partner—his affair partner, as the OP calls her—really wanted her to take part in. Unsurprisingly, the woman pressuring the girl into cheerleading became a problem and even led to the OP wondering if she was a jerk for how she handled the dispute.
Scroll down to find the full story below, where you will also find Bored Panda’s interview with Rachel Schofield, a Parent Coach and a Professional Member of the Australian Association of Family Therapists, who was kind enough to answer a few of our questions about parenting and children’s willingness to take part in certain activities.
While some parents try to force their kids into taking up certain activities, others let them make such decisions themselves
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This woman found herself at war with her ex’s “affair partner,” who was pressuring her daughter into taking up cheerleading
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“The effect [of pressuring children] can be positive or negative depending on the intentions behind the pressuring,” an expert says
It’s no secret that forcing your child—especially a teenager—to do something will likely result in acts of rebellion, whether it’s washing dishes, doing homework, or maybe even something fun that they refuse to do for one reason or another. Unsurprisingly, trying to put them up for activities they’re not interested in might also not be met with great enthusiasm.
While forcing a child to do something they loathe is not good, what about forcing them to push through something when it gets tough? For instance, when they’ve always loved basketball, but all of a sudden, it becomes too much and they want to quit. Should parents support their decision or encourage them to keep going? Also, where is the line between forcing and encouraging?
These questions have likely run through the heads of many parents. And it will probably come as no surprise, but there is no right answer to them, as there are many things that should be taken into consideration in such situations. According to Rachel Schofield, a Parent Coach and a Professional Member of the Australian Association of Family Therapists, the effect of pressuring kids into taking up an activity they are not interested in can be positive or negative depending on the intentions behind the pressuring and how the “pressuring” is done.
“For example, if a child is being pressured to take swimming lessons because knowing how to swim saves lives, then the lack of pleasure in the activity for the child is outweighed by the safety gained from being able to swim,” the expert noted in an interview with Bored Panda.
“Conversely, if a child is being pressured to take, say, ballet lessons simply because their parent likes the idea, but the child is not in the slightest bit interested, then the core problem is the child’s lack of autonomy. The pressure is a symptom of a lack of emotional differentiation between the parent and their child. This emotional merging makes it hard for a child to grow into a fully functioning adult who knows themselves well and has their own opinions, likes and dislikes.”
Sometimes, people have to do things they don’t want to, and that’s an important lesson for kids to learn
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“When an adult has a greater good in mind, like learning to swim, making a child do the activity they don’t want to do goes best when they enforce the expectation respectfully,” Schofield continued. “I like the general guideline of ‘It’s good for adults to hold expectations with children, but you can’t force a child to be happy with them.’ And just because a child doesn’t like something, doesn’t mean it isn’t worthwhile. Few kids love brushing their teeth, but if they don’t, they might end up with tooth decay.
“If parents simply let their kids do what they want to do and never require them to do things that are good for them but not appealing, then they are failing their kids. Their ability to grow up into empathetic, responsible adults capable of having good relationships and holding down a job will be hampered.”
So, in situations like this, the expert suggests saying something like “I know you don’t like swimming, but it’s a non negotiable” and making sure that you show your appreciation that they engaged in the activity even though they didn’t feel like it. “Allow a child to complain about it and to feel upset, but hold the boundary. Be utterly pleased with their efforts, and of course, explain why you’re making them do it. It can be good to loosen things up, bringing in humor and playfulness. This allows a child emotional autonomy (they hate swimming) whilst keeping them safe (they’re learning to swim anyway) and keeping the relationships between parent and child warm (we can laugh about the hard stuff).”
Schofield continued to emphasize that doing things we don’t really want to do is part of life, and there is nothing intrinsically damaging about this. “Even when we have a passion that we love, maybe playing soccer, we will need to do things we don’t enjoy, like cleaning muddy boots after a game. The ability to do the less pleasant part of life is an important skill that helps a child function well in adulthood.”
Parents should take kids’ opinions into consideration, but they shouldn’t be the ones running the show always
Talking about the line between “parent knows best” and letting the child make their own decisions, Schofield noted that it is always good to listen to kids, even when parents believe that it is objectively better for them to do something they don’t want to do. “It’s about respect and emotional autonomy,” she said. “But also it’s about parents doing their job as leaders of their families.
“Families where the children call all the shots and are essentially in charge are highly dysfunctional – there is a lot of emotional dysregulation. Children feel safe when their parents are in charge, And children feel loved and appreciated when their parents listen to them and treat them with warmth and kindness. But always doing what a child wants – that doesn’t go well for anyone.”
Dr. Janine Domingues, a clinical psychologist at the Child Mind Institute, suggests that encouraging children can have a positive impact on their confidence. “I think it gives them a sense of confidence to know that if there is a challenging moment, as a parent, you’re helping them to problem solve it through as opposed to completely removing it or taking the problem away,” Dr. Domingues commented on a piece for the Child Mind Institute. “A child really does feel accomplished and good about the fact that they were able to get through it.”
However, Dr. Domingues continued to point out that it’s important to know your child well, especially when it comes to extracurriculars. “If they’re not into sports, then pushing them into team sports may not be the best thing,” she said, adding that it might be better to look for an alternative that might tick the boxes of what you, as a parent, would like your child to take part in and what they themselves would enjoy.
According to Rachel Schofield, kids wanting out of a certain activity without finishing the period they signed up for can be a great opportunity to teach them a little about commitment, though. “A common problem is when a child says they want to do something, let’s say soccer, and then halfway through term, they decide they don’t like it anymore. A good direction is to make a child stick to the commitment – to keep going till the end of term. And then to be curious about what is going on – is it really the soccer, or are there some group dynamics that aren’t working, or are they overly tired and the timing just doesn’t work. This way, you get to instill good habits, like commitment, whilst keeping an open mind as to what is happening,” she told Bored Panda.
Parents have to remember that even if they enjoyed something as kids, their children might not enjoy it equally as much
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Delving deeper into the topic, another expert, a child and adolescent psychiatrist, Dr. Harold S. Koplewicz, suggested that if an activity is met with resistance from the child, it might be necessary for the parent to reevaluate their motivations. “Are we encouraging or pushing our kids because it’s in their best interest, or is it something we’re doing for ourselves?,” he commented for the Child Mind Institute.
That is another problem that tends to stand in the way of kids choosing an activity they enjoy. While some parents eagerly advertise their beloved activity in the hopes that their offspring will enjoy it as much as they do (or did), others tend to live vicariously through their children. Needless to say, that can lead to additional pressure, especially if the child doesn’t enjoy it nearly as much.
In the OP’s daughter’s case, it was cheerleading that her dad’s partner pressured her to take upon. But despite its popularity—according to last year’s data, over 3.8 million Americans aged six and older participated in cheerleading—the activity didn’t appeal to the OP’s daughter the slightest bit.
That was one of the reasons the girl’s mother didn’t appreciate her ex’s “affair partner” pushing her daughter. She was also seemingly worried about the likelihood of cheerleading-related injury. Some research points out that high school cheerleaders experience an average of 3.8 injuries throughout their careers. The mom shared her concerns in the comments, where fellow netizens shared their varying opinions on the situation, too.
The woman provided more details in the comments
Fellow netizens shared their thoughts on the situation; many didn’t think the mom was a jerk
Some people believed everyone involved was being jerks to each other
A few netizens weren’t willing to side with the OP
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If the kid doesn't want to, that's the end of conversation. Also, as a former cheerleader, the hours and injuries are not to be sneezed at.
I feel like a kid's no while always important is especially important when it comes to sports with such a high injury rate. It'd be one thing if the parents wanted her to just try out idk Piano or basket ball a few times because she needed to get a hobby, or be more physically active. But getting your kid into cheer, horse-riding, or figure skating where you can get serious injuries when they absolutely do not want to, should never be ok
Load More Replies...The side piece can't have kids so they should adopt if she wants them bad enough. She won't like it if any girls don't want anything to do with cheerleading but there's no guarantee she would get that if she was able to get pregnant.
That would be good advice if she wanted a child. What she wants, though, is a minimee.
Load More Replies...The YTA crowd are insane. OP is selfish and cruel?! Welp, guess who was selfish and cruel first. Sometimes, very few unfortunately, karma does work.
The YTA crew are usually unhinged in one way or another, lol. It seems like the AP (perhaps because she can't conceive) was playing the long game from the get-go. She found what she thought she deserved and went for it naively assuming OP would just step aside. The AP needs professional help to come to terms with the fact that OP's kid is not hers and will not be hers so the vision she has will not come to fruition. Men like the OP's ex make me want to vomit because they are more concerned with the lay they're getting than the fact that there is a tug-of-war going on he's not going to come out looking good. That child will resent him for not taking her part in all of this and HE will be posting the "woe is me, what have I done to deserve this" on reddit when the kid gets older and can distance herself from that clusterfuck.
Load More Replies...Marying a man with children DOES NOT automatically give you the right to be a 'second mom' or tell them what to do. Especially not if you have an affair with this man and manipulate your way into the family.
She didn't attack the woman for being infertile. That's ridiculous. She defended her child against a woman who is trying to co-opt her relationship with said child and force the child to do things against her will. The mum has every right to defend her child against someone who is only using the child for self-gratification.
Does OP have an attorney? If not, she should get one ASAP. It may take a judge telling both bio dad and AP to back the hell off. In fact, limiting time the kids spend with them is a good option. Also, OP should check with the other kids to see if they're being harassed in any way to do something that they're not comfortable with. It could be considered parental alienation, justifying the court ruling that the AP is to have absolutely NO contact whatsoever with the children. Any manner of breech should result in no visitations. (BTW, I wouldn't recommend adoption for those toxic people. AP will most likely pull the same stunt on an unsuspecting child, while at the same dismissing the bio kids as insignificant.)
One commenter said it's ok to force kids into activities they don't want to do. Such b******t! Kids have the right not to put their bodies through pain and misery in something they don't enjoy doing because some adult says they have to and they then have NO BODY AUTONOMY. Kids have the right to say no and have that respected. Parents (or quasi-parents) do NOT have the right to remove a child's body autonomy.
Yup. It's also one way to ensure the kid will hate what they are forced to do with every fiber of their being.
Load More Replies...Sounds like it's time to reevaluate the custody arrangement.
Kids only spend 6 days a month with dad and stepmom. That is generally not enough time to develop a close relationship, especially since stepmom is demanding it and not letting it develop naturally. If stepmom got daughter into cheerleading, bio mom would be stuck with getting her there during all of the time that daughter was with her.
It's quite simple. OP is the mother of the children; the AP is not. Therefore, what OP says, goes. AP's dreams and hopes are her own: they have nothing to do with OP. By harassing OP, AP invited a sharp rebuttal herself. There are options for AP: adopt or rent-a-uterus.
I guess the plan to snag an established man and get an instant family didn't work out so hot. Should've tried a widower.
It would be different if the daughter wanted to do cheer. She said no and had to go to her mother to get them to stop. Other than making sure the kids are provided for she owes nothing to the horrible, cheating, absentee dad and affair partner.
So, OP is being unfair, depriving JEN of a relationship with OP''s children - or with this 1 particular child - OP's daughter would allow Jen to fulfill her life's dream: sharing 'cheer' with a daughter. Wow! Did/does she have lofty ambitions. The fact that both parents have to agree on decisions like this should have made the whole thing a non-starter since OP will never agree to force her daughter into an activity she doesn't want to do. OP is not taking this stance to punish Jen (yes, everything is about her) - she's making the best decision for her daughter. I would be afraid that when the children are with their dad & AP, they will continue to put pressure on the girl & it may be necessary to go back to court to put a stop to any kind of harassment. (Yes, the courts will entertain things like that that seem incredibly minor but are not in the best interests of the child. Ex, a well-known politician in this state - & he got some national notoriety for something disgusting & stupid he did - was divorced by his wife who then, after the custody agreement had been worked out, had to go back to court numerous times on specific issues. The one I remember best is that he was to be prohibited from flying remote-controlled airplanes AT the children.) OP doesn't badmouth Jen or their dad in front of the children - she wouldn't have to - they can see perfectly clearly what she's like when they have to spend that 6 days a month with their dad & can see what the dynamic is between the 2 of them: he backs up AP rather than thinking of his children.
So funky cootchie step mom steals husband, tries to steal kids and OP is in the wrong? Bull sh!t I would have loudly in the middle of the store yelled what is wrong with your cootchie? Oh that's right it is a dried up old prune that you have to steal others husband and kids. I am a petty b!tch. Bite me!
I agree with the commenter who said, If AH + his 2nd p**sy had been able to have kids, OP 's kids would've been forgotten. I'd go NC with "Jen" cuz she's not the parent, the AH-ex is.
So OP is sworn at and harassed in public by someone who wants to force her daughter into doing something she doesn't want to but somehow she's TA? What that lot smoking?
I wonder if there's a YTA bot that just posts things like that to get the readers all riled up. It sure works.
Load More Replies...This is simple. The girl doesn't want to do cheer, so she doesn't do cheer, period. Step mommy's feelings about any of it are entirely irrelevant and are not a consideration. I see no reason to pretend to be friends with low character liars, nor would I encourage my children to bond with such people and trust them, when I know they are not trustworthy. If dad's wife wasn't trying to shove her desires down the poor kid's throat, there would be no issue here.
It's true that the child shouldn't be forced into an activity because the step mom wants to fulfill her own dreams, but the insult about the sterility only serves to distract from the issue and prevent OP from getting them to understand why it's harming the child. Once you make it personal they'll just believe your refusal is because you hate them. If you can be calm and explain how this is actually HARMING their relationship with the child it's better for everyone and also gives you better ammo in court. My response would have been : but it's not the kids dream to do cheer and you forcing her into it will only make her resent you!
Man, so many people hate on step-parents and think they should have no role in their step-kids' lives. I can't believe the poll results that most people think a step-parent should have no input in deciding a step-child's activities... that shocks me as someone with a step-parent. I am so grateful to my step mom for loving and caring for me and really value her opinion and input. She's not my mom, only my mom is my mom, but she is a unique type of parent to me and I am so glad that she's a part of my life.
It makes me feel a little better that even the YTAs didn't try to justify forcing the kid into cheerleading against her will. Makes me feel like we might have at least come to some general cultural consensus that forcing your own dreams on unwilling children is wrong and an a-hole move.
LouvreLove123 No AP will not be in those kids life for as long as OP lives. In fact, I think they and the ex will both be out of all their lives the second the kids are both 18.
Just let her know that daughter cannot go on the days that she is with you
Before i divorced my effing cheating wife, daughter & her would peck on the lips good night. I don't do it. One day i saw xe-wife affaire partnet peck on my daughter's lips ! That is wrong on so many levels ! I calmly told ex-wife that bother's me. Audacity yell at me to go talk to our daughter if i want put an end to that practice ! Barf...
As a step mum three times in bad marriages I add in no way shoe of form did I ever try to go over the mother ok none where affair husbands! But I also had two step mothers myself after my farther when I was 8 mths old killed my mother my kids father I’m 60 f kids 23f -20 m left us for another woman from another country china to be exact he left uk n we ain’t heard from him since nor have his other two kids my much loved step kids ! Op is NOT THE A H , that skank didn’t just want her husband she wanted her life end off and all those that scum clearly have not had to live this ! She can adopt she can get a surrogate etc taking another woman’s kids is sick twisted and vile and op is well rid of her ex cos it appears he’s to dam dumb to see what new wife is up to thankfully my kids want nothing to do with their Chinese step mother never even met her their choice not mine ! Unlike the father n stepmother in this story I’d never force my kids to do anything if they want to see him
(Highly unlikey ) turned up it’s totally up to them not me ! I never once tied to take my step kids away from their mother that’s just cruel all the ones going at op for this GET OVER YOURSELVES walk a mile in her shoes then blame her 🤬
Load More Replies...Jen is an AH, you shouldn't force kids into activities, but she's the step parent and if she was doing it appropriately, mom shouldn't interfere with the kids having whatever relationship with her they want. The affair and subsequent marriage is not the problem and it shouldn't be on the kids to avenge their mother's relationship. But she's obviously not listening to the kids, and that is a problem.
Nothing in the world makes cheating ok. It is disgusting and only insecure cowards do it. However, suggesting the loser AP should be dead is really tasteless and gross.
Load More Replies...Step parents, in divorce situations should have and legally, do have few rights. Cannot even legally be a guardian w/o living parents’ consent. And that’s a good thing. If stepmother wants a cheer puppet, she should adopt. NB: in US real parents MUST put natural children in wills and in insurance policies. Stepchildren, unless adopted, have no legal rights if natural parents die intestate. Both natural parents must talk w/attorney and make provisions ASAP.
No, children do not HAVE to be in their parents will, nor a beneficiary on their life insurance (assuming this is what you mean by insurance policies). Anyone planning a will should speak with an attorney to ensure that their wishes are honored. Attorneys can advise you on the ways you can avoid any pitfalls that may allow a challenge to your will. Naming insurance beneficiaries are subject to state law that vary from state to state. (US here.)
Load More Replies...If the kid doesn't want to, that's the end of conversation. Also, as a former cheerleader, the hours and injuries are not to be sneezed at.
I feel like a kid's no while always important is especially important when it comes to sports with such a high injury rate. It'd be one thing if the parents wanted her to just try out idk Piano or basket ball a few times because she needed to get a hobby, or be more physically active. But getting your kid into cheer, horse-riding, or figure skating where you can get serious injuries when they absolutely do not want to, should never be ok
Load More Replies...The side piece can't have kids so they should adopt if she wants them bad enough. She won't like it if any girls don't want anything to do with cheerleading but there's no guarantee she would get that if she was able to get pregnant.
That would be good advice if she wanted a child. What she wants, though, is a minimee.
Load More Replies...The YTA crowd are insane. OP is selfish and cruel?! Welp, guess who was selfish and cruel first. Sometimes, very few unfortunately, karma does work.
The YTA crew are usually unhinged in one way or another, lol. It seems like the AP (perhaps because she can't conceive) was playing the long game from the get-go. She found what she thought she deserved and went for it naively assuming OP would just step aside. The AP needs professional help to come to terms with the fact that OP's kid is not hers and will not be hers so the vision she has will not come to fruition. Men like the OP's ex make me want to vomit because they are more concerned with the lay they're getting than the fact that there is a tug-of-war going on he's not going to come out looking good. That child will resent him for not taking her part in all of this and HE will be posting the "woe is me, what have I done to deserve this" on reddit when the kid gets older and can distance herself from that clusterfuck.
Load More Replies...Marying a man with children DOES NOT automatically give you the right to be a 'second mom' or tell them what to do. Especially not if you have an affair with this man and manipulate your way into the family.
She didn't attack the woman for being infertile. That's ridiculous. She defended her child against a woman who is trying to co-opt her relationship with said child and force the child to do things against her will. The mum has every right to defend her child against someone who is only using the child for self-gratification.
Does OP have an attorney? If not, she should get one ASAP. It may take a judge telling both bio dad and AP to back the hell off. In fact, limiting time the kids spend with them is a good option. Also, OP should check with the other kids to see if they're being harassed in any way to do something that they're not comfortable with. It could be considered parental alienation, justifying the court ruling that the AP is to have absolutely NO contact whatsoever with the children. Any manner of breech should result in no visitations. (BTW, I wouldn't recommend adoption for those toxic people. AP will most likely pull the same stunt on an unsuspecting child, while at the same dismissing the bio kids as insignificant.)
One commenter said it's ok to force kids into activities they don't want to do. Such b******t! Kids have the right not to put their bodies through pain and misery in something they don't enjoy doing because some adult says they have to and they then have NO BODY AUTONOMY. Kids have the right to say no and have that respected. Parents (or quasi-parents) do NOT have the right to remove a child's body autonomy.
Yup. It's also one way to ensure the kid will hate what they are forced to do with every fiber of their being.
Load More Replies...Sounds like it's time to reevaluate the custody arrangement.
Kids only spend 6 days a month with dad and stepmom. That is generally not enough time to develop a close relationship, especially since stepmom is demanding it and not letting it develop naturally. If stepmom got daughter into cheerleading, bio mom would be stuck with getting her there during all of the time that daughter was with her.
It's quite simple. OP is the mother of the children; the AP is not. Therefore, what OP says, goes. AP's dreams and hopes are her own: they have nothing to do with OP. By harassing OP, AP invited a sharp rebuttal herself. There are options for AP: adopt or rent-a-uterus.
I guess the plan to snag an established man and get an instant family didn't work out so hot. Should've tried a widower.
It would be different if the daughter wanted to do cheer. She said no and had to go to her mother to get them to stop. Other than making sure the kids are provided for she owes nothing to the horrible, cheating, absentee dad and affair partner.
So, OP is being unfair, depriving JEN of a relationship with OP''s children - or with this 1 particular child - OP's daughter would allow Jen to fulfill her life's dream: sharing 'cheer' with a daughter. Wow! Did/does she have lofty ambitions. The fact that both parents have to agree on decisions like this should have made the whole thing a non-starter since OP will never agree to force her daughter into an activity she doesn't want to do. OP is not taking this stance to punish Jen (yes, everything is about her) - she's making the best decision for her daughter. I would be afraid that when the children are with their dad & AP, they will continue to put pressure on the girl & it may be necessary to go back to court to put a stop to any kind of harassment. (Yes, the courts will entertain things like that that seem incredibly minor but are not in the best interests of the child. Ex, a well-known politician in this state - & he got some national notoriety for something disgusting & stupid he did - was divorced by his wife who then, after the custody agreement had been worked out, had to go back to court numerous times on specific issues. The one I remember best is that he was to be prohibited from flying remote-controlled airplanes AT the children.) OP doesn't badmouth Jen or their dad in front of the children - she wouldn't have to - they can see perfectly clearly what she's like when they have to spend that 6 days a month with their dad & can see what the dynamic is between the 2 of them: he backs up AP rather than thinking of his children.
So funky cootchie step mom steals husband, tries to steal kids and OP is in the wrong? Bull sh!t I would have loudly in the middle of the store yelled what is wrong with your cootchie? Oh that's right it is a dried up old prune that you have to steal others husband and kids. I am a petty b!tch. Bite me!
I agree with the commenter who said, If AH + his 2nd p**sy had been able to have kids, OP 's kids would've been forgotten. I'd go NC with "Jen" cuz she's not the parent, the AH-ex is.
So OP is sworn at and harassed in public by someone who wants to force her daughter into doing something she doesn't want to but somehow she's TA? What that lot smoking?
I wonder if there's a YTA bot that just posts things like that to get the readers all riled up. It sure works.
Load More Replies...This is simple. The girl doesn't want to do cheer, so she doesn't do cheer, period. Step mommy's feelings about any of it are entirely irrelevant and are not a consideration. I see no reason to pretend to be friends with low character liars, nor would I encourage my children to bond with such people and trust them, when I know they are not trustworthy. If dad's wife wasn't trying to shove her desires down the poor kid's throat, there would be no issue here.
It's true that the child shouldn't be forced into an activity because the step mom wants to fulfill her own dreams, but the insult about the sterility only serves to distract from the issue and prevent OP from getting them to understand why it's harming the child. Once you make it personal they'll just believe your refusal is because you hate them. If you can be calm and explain how this is actually HARMING their relationship with the child it's better for everyone and also gives you better ammo in court. My response would have been : but it's not the kids dream to do cheer and you forcing her into it will only make her resent you!
Man, so many people hate on step-parents and think they should have no role in their step-kids' lives. I can't believe the poll results that most people think a step-parent should have no input in deciding a step-child's activities... that shocks me as someone with a step-parent. I am so grateful to my step mom for loving and caring for me and really value her opinion and input. She's not my mom, only my mom is my mom, but she is a unique type of parent to me and I am so glad that she's a part of my life.
It makes me feel a little better that even the YTAs didn't try to justify forcing the kid into cheerleading against her will. Makes me feel like we might have at least come to some general cultural consensus that forcing your own dreams on unwilling children is wrong and an a-hole move.
LouvreLove123 No AP will not be in those kids life for as long as OP lives. In fact, I think they and the ex will both be out of all their lives the second the kids are both 18.
Just let her know that daughter cannot go on the days that she is with you
Before i divorced my effing cheating wife, daughter & her would peck on the lips good night. I don't do it. One day i saw xe-wife affaire partnet peck on my daughter's lips ! That is wrong on so many levels ! I calmly told ex-wife that bother's me. Audacity yell at me to go talk to our daughter if i want put an end to that practice ! Barf...
As a step mum three times in bad marriages I add in no way shoe of form did I ever try to go over the mother ok none where affair husbands! But I also had two step mothers myself after my farther when I was 8 mths old killed my mother my kids father I’m 60 f kids 23f -20 m left us for another woman from another country china to be exact he left uk n we ain’t heard from him since nor have his other two kids my much loved step kids ! Op is NOT THE A H , that skank didn’t just want her husband she wanted her life end off and all those that scum clearly have not had to live this ! She can adopt she can get a surrogate etc taking another woman’s kids is sick twisted and vile and op is well rid of her ex cos it appears he’s to dam dumb to see what new wife is up to thankfully my kids want nothing to do with their Chinese step mother never even met her their choice not mine ! Unlike the father n stepmother in this story I’d never force my kids to do anything if they want to see him
(Highly unlikey ) turned up it’s totally up to them not me ! I never once tied to take my step kids away from their mother that’s just cruel all the ones going at op for this GET OVER YOURSELVES walk a mile in her shoes then blame her 🤬
Load More Replies...Jen is an AH, you shouldn't force kids into activities, but she's the step parent and if she was doing it appropriately, mom shouldn't interfere with the kids having whatever relationship with her they want. The affair and subsequent marriage is not the problem and it shouldn't be on the kids to avenge their mother's relationship. But she's obviously not listening to the kids, and that is a problem.
Nothing in the world makes cheating ok. It is disgusting and only insecure cowards do it. However, suggesting the loser AP should be dead is really tasteless and gross.
Load More Replies...Step parents, in divorce situations should have and legally, do have few rights. Cannot even legally be a guardian w/o living parents’ consent. And that’s a good thing. If stepmother wants a cheer puppet, she should adopt. NB: in US real parents MUST put natural children in wills and in insurance policies. Stepchildren, unless adopted, have no legal rights if natural parents die intestate. Both natural parents must talk w/attorney and make provisions ASAP.
No, children do not HAVE to be in their parents will, nor a beneficiary on their life insurance (assuming this is what you mean by insurance policies). Anyone planning a will should speak with an attorney to ensure that their wishes are honored. Attorneys can advise you on the ways you can avoid any pitfalls that may allow a challenge to your will. Naming insurance beneficiaries are subject to state law that vary from state to state. (US here.)
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