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16-Year-Old Plane Passenger Can’t Stop Man’s Unwanted Advances, So The Crew Intervenes
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16-Year-Old Plane Passenger Can’t Stop Man’s Unwanted Advances, So The Crew Intervenes

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From navigating busy security lines to dealing with delays and cancellations, air travel can involve a lot of stress even before you board the plane. But sometimes the challenges don’t end at the airport; they can persist throughout the journey.

When Reddit user Softestlilbab was sixteen years old and flying to meet her dad, she ended up sitting in a row with a stranger who got increasingly interested in her as the trip went on. Learning that the girl was a minor didn’t stop him either.

As the woman explained on the subreddit ‘Entitled People,’ eventually, it got so bad that the only way she thought she could get out of the uncomfortable situation was to report the man to the crew. So she did.

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    This teenager was traveling alone, so her dad booked her an extra seat

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    But that didn’t stop a creepy man from hitting on the minor

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    Sadly, unsolicited male attention is part of growing up for many young women

    We got in touch with Softestlilbab and she said this wasn’t the only time when she received unwanted attention from older men while she was growing up.

    “I was 13 when a man offered my dad lobola [a gift in some African cultures that the groom’s family gives to the bride’s family as a thank you for raising her] for me in a shopping center,” the Redditor told Bored Panda. “And I’ve experienced so many more. Older men have no shame.”

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    Even though the flight attendants took action after the teen told them what was going on, she was still somewhat disappointed by it. “They didn’t ask me if I was okay, or offer to move him to another seat, or attempt to offer me some reassurance. However, the [crew member] in the jump seat was absolutely lovely and was so protective watching over me from his seat right in our sight line. I definitely adored him, he gave me dad vibes.”

    Softestlilbab told her family and friends about the incident and she had some mixed reactions. “My immediate family was very protective and upset (I have 3 brothers) but I also had my one family member comment, ‘Well, maybe you shouldn’t have been wearing a little dress on the plane,'” the Redditor recalled. “But I was not, I had changed before meeting them after landing; I was in sweatpants and a hoodie on the flight.”

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    This incident is indicative of a broader problem. Moira Donegan, who is a writer in residence for the Clayman Institute, where she, among many things, teaches a class in feminist, gender, and sexuality studies, says that for too many girls, teenage years are a time of unwanted attention from older men.

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    “Male attention creeps in at the edges of a young girl’s consciousness before she quite knows what it means,” she explains. “For my own part, I have a vivid memory of my mother dragging me out of a corner store after a man had been following me up and down the aisles; I was maybe 12.”

    “Before that, a different man once approached me in a bookstore, where I was hunched over a book about a girl wizard, and asked if I wanted to take a walk with him. I was nine.”

    “Neither of these men had been confused about my age: once I had been accompanied by my mother, the other time I was sitting in the children’s section of a bookstore,” Donegan adds. “My youth wasn’t a deterrent to their sexual attention, but rather part of its appeal: it signaled ignorance, naivety, and insecurity, the kinds of things that men like in women because they make us easier to control.”

    According to Donegan, by her teens, comments and approaches from grown men had become a regular part of being in public. “The message that all of this sends to young girls is that womanhood is a state that consists largely of receiving unsolicited male attention, much of it benign but much of it threatening, exploitative or hostile, and that their ownership over their own bodies, their ability to peacefully occupy public space, and their right to be perceived as the children that they are can all be abridged by the whims of a man’s desire.”

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    Clinical mental health counselor Lisa Leshaw agrees. She says that we live in a society that is obsessed with physicality, and the objectification of girls that stems from it can have dire long-term consequences on their self-esteem.

    She says that we cannot minimize these experiences and write them off as “part of life.” Instead, we need to send a clear message that their feelings are valid, the incident was not their fault, and their boundaries deserve respect.

    As the story went viral, its author joined the discussion in the comments

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    Chelsea McKee
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men really do s**t like this. They'll ask you where you live, where you work. Sir we just met and that's 100% none of your business.

    Guess Undheit
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cisgender heterosexual males are the biggest threat to women and children, like those 24 that were recently arrested in texass for KP and soliciting. There are literally dozens arrested EVERY WEEK in the US, but you never hear about them. The only times you do hear the gender and sexual orientation of the predator is when they're not cis hetero males (e.g. cis hetero female like that fundy christian teacher arrested today for "sexting" a student, LGBTQIA people, etc.).

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    LuLuBelle
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the joys of becoming a little old lady is that random strange men stop sexually harassing you. Any man that thinks this doesn't happen regularly, especially to young women, is delusional. And they wonder why we prefer the bear.

    CatWoman1014
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve put on a bit of weight since I had my baby and I don’t get harassed as much for that reason either. So old and fat is the way to go I guess 😕

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    arthbach
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Girls have been taught to 'be nice and not make a fuss'. This is c**p! Don't do it. Raise your voice, seek allies, don't let men treat you like this. Women - be the ally. Parents- teach your sons to be good boys and men. Teach them how to be friendly. Teach them not to be pervs. Men - call out men and boys who you see behaving like this. Often the men who are behaving badly only listen to other men. Call them out.

    Alicia M
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This absolutely happens. I can't tell you how many times something like this has happened to me. Men not taking no for an answer and sexual harassment are an everyday part of a woman's life. It's always unwanted. It's always cringe but that doesn't stop men from doing it. The only escape women get is as we get older it lessens. I just turned 50, and I don't look my age, so I still have things like this happen to me, but not with the frequency they used to.

    Dan
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a man, I want to say I'm sorry. I finally understood what women go thru dealing with men (to the degree I am able) when I heard a woman refer to her "date knife." You know, the weapon she carries to fend off HER DATE, should he be a rapist 👀

    laura lee
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes and realize please, this starts around age 9y, yes 9, and ends????? Guess I'll find out one day. I carried a small club in my purse starting around 12y, it was about 8" cut off end of a wooden shovel with duct tape wrapped around the cut end.

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    Tabitha
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men, BELIEVE a woman who says s**t like this has happened to her!!! Even if you have doubts, at least consider her innocent until proven guilty---I only said that last part for the a******s who think that because ONE woman in the last 2000 years may have lied, that all women's claims are suspect. I'm 63 now, and can tell you with authority that s**t like this happens to every woman, and has been happening to us since the beginning of time. Hell, the serpent talking to Eve, even though she didn't ask him to, is a prime example (unfortunately, innocent Eve was like a child who believes the creep in the van actually has a puppy). Airlines need to keep a large, lockable dog kennel bolted down in the cargo hold of the plane, as a place to put creeps like this in, after cuffing them, so they can't bother anyone the rest of the flight. To avoid any kind of issues, the dog kennel should have a camera on it so the a*****e can be monitored, and a member of crew should check on them periodically. This would be especially helpful on flights without Air Marshals on them. No one should be forced to sit next to creeps like this. BTW, even though I was a young woman decades ago, even back then I had no shame about making a really loud scene and loudly asking creeps like this guy why they were bothering me, sitting right next to me even though there were plenty of other seats available (like in a practically empty movie theatre---yes, it happened to me and was just one example of the s**t I put up with before I finally got too old to be noticed, thank goodness), asking me for my phone number, even talking dirty, and other pervy s**t. It brought the spotlight on them, embarrassed them publicly, and had other people making sure to periodically check on me to be sure I was OK. I always made sure to check to see if the creep was hanging around, and to stick with the crowd when leaving places after scenes like that, so the risk of retaliation was low. It may have been the seventies and eighties, but no f*****g way was I going to be nice and quiet and have my time ruined by some pervert. So I let HIS time be ruined with public humiliation and all eyes on him for the remainder of the event. Thankfully, they usually just skulked off and retired back under their rocks back in the day, because they hadn't been emboldened to believe they were entitled to behave that way, because there was no public internet, so no websites full of other losers to vent to, who would then to egg them on to retaliate.

    Thanos'Fingers
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    6 months ago

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    But why would a woman be "guilty" if she's accusing a man of a crime? If you say "innocent until proven guilty", doesn't that mean you SHOULDNT take a woman's claim at face value for the sole fact she was born with a vagina? That literally is the exact opposite of innocent until proven guilty. It's taking an accusation as proof of guilt. So when I say you tried to kill me and steal my wallet... see where this goes?

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    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, I wish I had handled these sorts of encounters as well when I was a teenager. I usually would just shut down because I was so terrified of creepy men like these.

    George Tirebiter
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a saying that a man's worst fear is being laughed at by a women he's trying to pick up, and a woman's worst fear is being killed by a man she's trying to let down gently. It's a sad reality.

    Kerry Fletcher
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a male this can happen to us as well. When I was 17 there was a woman who was prob 24 or 25 who was always on my bus. She always chatted me up despite me not ever talking back. I changed buses and she changed with me. I asked her to stop and she said she could make my life perfect if I came home with her. It was creepy and I don't deal with confrontations due to anxiety. Some of us men know your pain as well.

    Gen X Feral
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh my stars I wish I'd of been there with her! My fat asss would be going to jail for snapping his eyelids like window shades for even looking at that little girl. I have 3 grandbabies that are little girls and I swear on Betty Whites grave I'll put someone in their grave for touching one of my babies. I'm old, I'm sick and I have no flucks left, life in prison doesn't mean much to me 🤬

    Thatkamloopsguy
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This message is to all men. When a woman says no, it means it's time for you to just fu ck right off. There is no need for her to have to say it twice.

    Greyskull
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having had about an equal number of male and female friends throughout highschool and college, it never crossed my very skeptical mind that this could be made up. I've heard and personally witnessed similar far too many times. And some men will argue that it happens to then too, I've experienced that personally too, but the proportions and extent are completely different, even before you consider the physical power dynamics. I've never felt unsafe when I've been harassed, but I've had to literally move men away from women, who'd sometimes keep coming back to bother some woman or girl. I feel sorry for the incels idolizing the bald-headed sexpest criminal who's led so many astray (and the orange-headed one too), they are pitiable, but they aren't the only men causing problems. Treat them like terrorists: if you see something, say something. The cultural norms must change.

    Sophia Athene
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I nearly had an anxiety attack reading this. I could feel my heart starting to race and my breathing going shallow. I've had this happen multiple times. Not on an airplane but in other instances where I shut down or escape was hard. What's worse is that I never joined up or confessed the encounters during the height of Time's Up and Me Too b/c I blamed myself or didn't think the experience was bad enough to "qualify." I've only been able to talk about them with my husband and anonymous people online (like here) in the past couple of years and I'm in my 40s.

    Auntriarch
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I started travelling alone from the age of 14 (forces brat). And yes it happened. Luckily the air hostesses were not about to take any c**p from a creep, bless them all. And no, my mother still doesn't know.

    DarkViolet
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to put up with a lot of that cràp in my younger days. (I also used to carry an icepick for protection.) I don't doubt this girl's story for a minute. When a guy starts creeping on a woman, politeness should no longer exist. Be loud, be dangerous, be safe. Don't be afraid to involve others in order to get out of the situation. If you can, get a snapshot if the pervert. If the police or security won't help, post the picture on social media, with an explanation of the surrounding events. Then sit back and watch the fun unfold.

    laura lee
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the f*****g time so much so I've become a recluse. Wanna know why women go to the bathroom in packs "haha"? This. This is why. Why we have a friend or 2 on retainer when we go on a first date, so we don't get raped. We are NOT playing hard to get. Just stop if we ask you to. If you can't take context clues or read a face or body movements, then listen to our words. Please for the love of God.

    Tiny Dancer
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How times have changed (somewhat). My very first plane ride was back in the '60s when I was 5 years old. I travelled alone from Australia to China with nothing but my doll, Bella, to keep me company. The stewardesses had been told to keep an eye on me and they did a terrific job. Someone always seemed to be sitting with me, feeding me, reading to me, and setting up my radio and (free!) headset. Long flight, but no hassles. Ironically, it was 4 years later I ran into trouble with a "family friend" at the age of 9. Didn't get any peace anywhere I went until I met and got pregnant with my guy in my '20s. I will always listen to women on this topic. The vast majority of them are spot-on.

    Bryn
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    (Women: This thing is happening to us) (Men: no it's not. how dare you) I don't understand why so many men will try to make themselves out as not only the person in the right but the person who knows more.

    Melissa anderson
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An adult male hitting on a minor female is nothing but a creepy loser

    Kalikima
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish they would post the negative posts where the jerks were talking shìt. I feel like I'm missing some of the story..

    Thanos'Fingers
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    6 months ago

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    There's a difference between a story scenario that could easily be true, and one that actually happened to someone. I think people pointing out this is likely fake aren't doing so because a minor was hit on by a creep. Every guy with a brain cell left knows this happens. I think they call it fake from ALL the other unlikely circumstances surrounding this scenario, as well as the blatant moral message dropped at the end like this person wanted to write a fable for English Lit.

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    Melany Van Every
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a bit older than this girl and dealt with this quite a few times at my first job back in the late 1980s. And being at work you can't tell them off or you get fired.

    Bette
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry this happened to you. I have to wonder if you were HIS daughter, how he would feel to witness such an encounter?! I have tried to intervene when I have seen such acts and would hope others would as well. Surely such ignorant behavior can be avoided with better parenting! What a terrible example this man set for not only his own children (if he has any) but everyone else around him!

    June Miller
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was on an overnight flight and sitting in the very back row of the plane which had the two 2-5-2 seat arrangementl. I was in the middle of the middle 5, and next to me was a Muslim lady from a country where modesty is a core value and then her daughter (about 8 or 9). Across the aisle from them was just one man and a vacant seat. Hours into the flight, everyone on the flight is asleep except me. I glance over at the man and he is masturbating, with only a jacket over his hand! I was horrified, but did nothing. When I later told a friend they were indignant that I hadn't called the flight attendant, but I was really reluctant to cause a fuss, especially because i didn't want my really nice neighbour, and even more so her daughter to wake up and see what was happening. So sometimes there are reasons why we women let men get away with unacceptable behaviour, and at least in this case it was only a relatively worldly person (me) who was uncomfortable

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’Ve never understood men who won’t take “no” for an answer. Do they really believe they’re sooo irresistible that no woman in her right mind could possibly turn them down? There’ve been times I’ve wanted to shout at them “It’ll NEVER happen because you are SO repellent to me that I’m trying not to vomit just TALKING to you!” I’m the type who, if you don’t show even the merest inkling of interest, I go away. It wouldn’t even cross my mind to try to convince a man of my charms. I haven’t the self-esteem for that! … A lightbulb just went off in my brain: perhaps self-esteem is finite, and the reason so many women have so little of it is because so many men took way more than their fair share of it. 🤔

    Kombatbunni
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I had seen this I would have sat between them and told him to back off if he kept it up. Or ask the crew for some duct tape to shut him up

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you're not even the paid flight staff who sat a total of 6' away and observed the entire interaction going on, or the captain who took a break from flying to hear OPs complaints!

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    Nikki Angulo
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the commenters stories about what happened to her on a flight to Dubai, I would have elbowed that perv in the face while making a science saying very clearly and loudly “get your hands off my _____” (whatever body part he was touching) and then quietly said “is it ok if I do that?”

    Sierra (Nyxhawk)
    Community Member
    5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of when I was a teen working my first job at Taco Bell and this 40 ish year old man starts chatting with me while I’m taking his order. Asks me what I’m dressing up as for Halloween and when I tell him he says “that sounds s*xy, I’d like to see that”. Gross. And, of course, he just keeps going while I’m stuck there waiting for him to finish his order. He also started showing up nearly every day after that. Thankfully, I had an awesome manager and after I told her what happened she always found some reason to put someone else on the register and send me to do something in the office or back of the area anytime he showed up

    Star Riley
    Community Member
    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And people wonder why feminists have become so toxic. This is a perfect example of why. Too many uneducated perverts

    Logicgrrl
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We haven't become "so toxic". We're tired of this f*****g s**t happening to us again and again and again.

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    Guess Undheit
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cisgender heterosexual males (e.g. Cheetolini) are the biggest danger to society, especially to women and children. Why are they never the focus of media attention when early all those arrested for sex crimes are cis hetero males?

    Gale Christensen
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was her age, I would have meekly sat and took his s**t. BY the time I was 16, I'd already been molested and SA'd by 15 boys and men. I had resigned myself to accepting that this was my life. Now though? If some creep tried that with me, and they STILL do, he gets set straight hella quick. And usually in a not very nice way.

    Grenelda Thurber
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    5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was so inexperienced when c**p like that started happening, I literally didn't understand. I had just turned 12, and the younger brother (late teen's, early 20's) of my step-dad's coworker asked me how old I was, in front of my mom, step-dad, and step-dad's coworker. When I told him 12, he asked when I would turn 13! Did anyone say a word? No! I didn't know enough to be creeped out. I was just confused about why he wanted to know how old I was and why he wasn't asking anybody else. It wasn't until a few years later that I finally understood.

    Shadow the Dragon King
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    5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something like this once happened to me. I am male, but look much younger than I am and am kind of chubby especially in the chest area. Add that on to the fact that I grow my hair out, have a large butt, and will often have a balsam pillow with me, and it is the perfect storm. At a West Hartford middle school, I was approached by a creepy older student who kept saying stuff like “What’s your name, gorgeous?” and “Why do you keep hiding how big you are, you should be out and proud girl!” (Background: I always wear a hoodie because I am self-conscious about how flabby I am.) It got to the point where he tried to stick his hands up my shorts and down my hoodie. I punched him in the face and ran, and met a group of girls who had the same problem with this creep. We went to go report him, and I ended up getting chewed out for punching him, the principal didn’t believe any of us, and the creep got away scot-free. Turns out his family makes big donations each year to keep him in school.

    Livingwithcfs
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    5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something similar happened to me on a bus years ago, even put his hand on my leg. I was too shocked to do anything right then and broke down at work the next day when it really sunk in. This young woman is made of really strong stuff, I wishedi had been as proactive as she was. No man, old or young should even consider this behavior acceptable

    Tygalily
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    5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OmG- I've mellowed with age but 16yo me would've been yelling at this guy WTF was his problem & using the word PEDOPHILE really loud!!

    sunshine wright
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    Obviously what this guy did isn't right but it in no way reflects men as a whole, and yet all you bitter a*s females try to make it out to sound like this is all men, all the time. I wish more of you would go choose the bear so the world can be rid of your stupidity and toxicity.

    jennifer brinkman
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    6 months ago

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    American males are pigs not men. Immature a*s hats with no manners. This is why women go to women!!!

    Saphyre Fyre
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    6 months ago

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    Who said there were no repercussions? Perhaps the boss fired him, but at the right place and time.

    Amy S
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the boss was going to fire him, he would have interviened at some point.

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    Chelsea McKee
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men really do s**t like this. They'll ask you where you live, where you work. Sir we just met and that's 100% none of your business.

    Guess Undheit
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cisgender heterosexual males are the biggest threat to women and children, like those 24 that were recently arrested in texass for KP and soliciting. There are literally dozens arrested EVERY WEEK in the US, but you never hear about them. The only times you do hear the gender and sexual orientation of the predator is when they're not cis hetero males (e.g. cis hetero female like that fundy christian teacher arrested today for "sexting" a student, LGBTQIA people, etc.).

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    LuLuBelle
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the joys of becoming a little old lady is that random strange men stop sexually harassing you. Any man that thinks this doesn't happen regularly, especially to young women, is delusional. And they wonder why we prefer the bear.

    CatWoman1014
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve put on a bit of weight since I had my baby and I don’t get harassed as much for that reason either. So old and fat is the way to go I guess 😕

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    arthbach
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Girls have been taught to 'be nice and not make a fuss'. This is c**p! Don't do it. Raise your voice, seek allies, don't let men treat you like this. Women - be the ally. Parents- teach your sons to be good boys and men. Teach them how to be friendly. Teach them not to be pervs. Men - call out men and boys who you see behaving like this. Often the men who are behaving badly only listen to other men. Call them out.

    Alicia M
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This absolutely happens. I can't tell you how many times something like this has happened to me. Men not taking no for an answer and sexual harassment are an everyday part of a woman's life. It's always unwanted. It's always cringe but that doesn't stop men from doing it. The only escape women get is as we get older it lessens. I just turned 50, and I don't look my age, so I still have things like this happen to me, but not with the frequency they used to.

    Dan
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a man, I want to say I'm sorry. I finally understood what women go thru dealing with men (to the degree I am able) when I heard a woman refer to her "date knife." You know, the weapon she carries to fend off HER DATE, should he be a rapist 👀

    laura lee
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes and realize please, this starts around age 9y, yes 9, and ends????? Guess I'll find out one day. I carried a small club in my purse starting around 12y, it was about 8" cut off end of a wooden shovel with duct tape wrapped around the cut end.

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    Tabitha
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men, BELIEVE a woman who says s**t like this has happened to her!!! Even if you have doubts, at least consider her innocent until proven guilty---I only said that last part for the a******s who think that because ONE woman in the last 2000 years may have lied, that all women's claims are suspect. I'm 63 now, and can tell you with authority that s**t like this happens to every woman, and has been happening to us since the beginning of time. Hell, the serpent talking to Eve, even though she didn't ask him to, is a prime example (unfortunately, innocent Eve was like a child who believes the creep in the van actually has a puppy). Airlines need to keep a large, lockable dog kennel bolted down in the cargo hold of the plane, as a place to put creeps like this in, after cuffing them, so they can't bother anyone the rest of the flight. To avoid any kind of issues, the dog kennel should have a camera on it so the a*****e can be monitored, and a member of crew should check on them periodically. This would be especially helpful on flights without Air Marshals on them. No one should be forced to sit next to creeps like this. BTW, even though I was a young woman decades ago, even back then I had no shame about making a really loud scene and loudly asking creeps like this guy why they were bothering me, sitting right next to me even though there were plenty of other seats available (like in a practically empty movie theatre---yes, it happened to me and was just one example of the s**t I put up with before I finally got too old to be noticed, thank goodness), asking me for my phone number, even talking dirty, and other pervy s**t. It brought the spotlight on them, embarrassed them publicly, and had other people making sure to periodically check on me to be sure I was OK. I always made sure to check to see if the creep was hanging around, and to stick with the crowd when leaving places after scenes like that, so the risk of retaliation was low. It may have been the seventies and eighties, but no f*****g way was I going to be nice and quiet and have my time ruined by some pervert. So I let HIS time be ruined with public humiliation and all eyes on him for the remainder of the event. Thankfully, they usually just skulked off and retired back under their rocks back in the day, because they hadn't been emboldened to believe they were entitled to behave that way, because there was no public internet, so no websites full of other losers to vent to, who would then to egg them on to retaliate.

    Thanos'Fingers
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    But why would a woman be "guilty" if she's accusing a man of a crime? If you say "innocent until proven guilty", doesn't that mean you SHOULDNT take a woman's claim at face value for the sole fact she was born with a vagina? That literally is the exact opposite of innocent until proven guilty. It's taking an accusation as proof of guilt. So when I say you tried to kill me and steal my wallet... see where this goes?

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    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, I wish I had handled these sorts of encounters as well when I was a teenager. I usually would just shut down because I was so terrified of creepy men like these.

    George Tirebiter
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a saying that a man's worst fear is being laughed at by a women he's trying to pick up, and a woman's worst fear is being killed by a man she's trying to let down gently. It's a sad reality.

    Kerry Fletcher
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a male this can happen to us as well. When I was 17 there was a woman who was prob 24 or 25 who was always on my bus. She always chatted me up despite me not ever talking back. I changed buses and she changed with me. I asked her to stop and she said she could make my life perfect if I came home with her. It was creepy and I don't deal with confrontations due to anxiety. Some of us men know your pain as well.

    Gen X Feral
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh my stars I wish I'd of been there with her! My fat asss would be going to jail for snapping his eyelids like window shades for even looking at that little girl. I have 3 grandbabies that are little girls and I swear on Betty Whites grave I'll put someone in their grave for touching one of my babies. I'm old, I'm sick and I have no flucks left, life in prison doesn't mean much to me 🤬

    Thatkamloopsguy
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This message is to all men. When a woman says no, it means it's time for you to just fu ck right off. There is no need for her to have to say it twice.

    Greyskull
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having had about an equal number of male and female friends throughout highschool and college, it never crossed my very skeptical mind that this could be made up. I've heard and personally witnessed similar far too many times. And some men will argue that it happens to then too, I've experienced that personally too, but the proportions and extent are completely different, even before you consider the physical power dynamics. I've never felt unsafe when I've been harassed, but I've had to literally move men away from women, who'd sometimes keep coming back to bother some woman or girl. I feel sorry for the incels idolizing the bald-headed sexpest criminal who's led so many astray (and the orange-headed one too), they are pitiable, but they aren't the only men causing problems. Treat them like terrorists: if you see something, say something. The cultural norms must change.

    Sophia Athene
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I nearly had an anxiety attack reading this. I could feel my heart starting to race and my breathing going shallow. I've had this happen multiple times. Not on an airplane but in other instances where I shut down or escape was hard. What's worse is that I never joined up or confessed the encounters during the height of Time's Up and Me Too b/c I blamed myself or didn't think the experience was bad enough to "qualify." I've only been able to talk about them with my husband and anonymous people online (like here) in the past couple of years and I'm in my 40s.

    Auntriarch
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I started travelling alone from the age of 14 (forces brat). And yes it happened. Luckily the air hostesses were not about to take any c**p from a creep, bless them all. And no, my mother still doesn't know.

    DarkViolet
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to put up with a lot of that cràp in my younger days. (I also used to carry an icepick for protection.) I don't doubt this girl's story for a minute. When a guy starts creeping on a woman, politeness should no longer exist. Be loud, be dangerous, be safe. Don't be afraid to involve others in order to get out of the situation. If you can, get a snapshot if the pervert. If the police or security won't help, post the picture on social media, with an explanation of the surrounding events. Then sit back and watch the fun unfold.

    laura lee
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the f*****g time so much so I've become a recluse. Wanna know why women go to the bathroom in packs "haha"? This. This is why. Why we have a friend or 2 on retainer when we go on a first date, so we don't get raped. We are NOT playing hard to get. Just stop if we ask you to. If you can't take context clues or read a face or body movements, then listen to our words. Please for the love of God.

    Tiny Dancer
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How times have changed (somewhat). My very first plane ride was back in the '60s when I was 5 years old. I travelled alone from Australia to China with nothing but my doll, Bella, to keep me company. The stewardesses had been told to keep an eye on me and they did a terrific job. Someone always seemed to be sitting with me, feeding me, reading to me, and setting up my radio and (free!) headset. Long flight, but no hassles. Ironically, it was 4 years later I ran into trouble with a "family friend" at the age of 9. Didn't get any peace anywhere I went until I met and got pregnant with my guy in my '20s. I will always listen to women on this topic. The vast majority of them are spot-on.

    Bryn
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    (Women: This thing is happening to us) (Men: no it's not. how dare you) I don't understand why so many men will try to make themselves out as not only the person in the right but the person who knows more.

    Melissa anderson
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An adult male hitting on a minor female is nothing but a creepy loser

    Kalikima
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish they would post the negative posts where the jerks were talking shìt. I feel like I'm missing some of the story..

    Thanos'Fingers
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    There's a difference between a story scenario that could easily be true, and one that actually happened to someone. I think people pointing out this is likely fake aren't doing so because a minor was hit on by a creep. Every guy with a brain cell left knows this happens. I think they call it fake from ALL the other unlikely circumstances surrounding this scenario, as well as the blatant moral message dropped at the end like this person wanted to write a fable for English Lit.

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    Melany Van Every
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a bit older than this girl and dealt with this quite a few times at my first job back in the late 1980s. And being at work you can't tell them off or you get fired.

    Bette
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry this happened to you. I have to wonder if you were HIS daughter, how he would feel to witness such an encounter?! I have tried to intervene when I have seen such acts and would hope others would as well. Surely such ignorant behavior can be avoided with better parenting! What a terrible example this man set for not only his own children (if he has any) but everyone else around him!

    June Miller
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was on an overnight flight and sitting in the very back row of the plane which had the two 2-5-2 seat arrangementl. I was in the middle of the middle 5, and next to me was a Muslim lady from a country where modesty is a core value and then her daughter (about 8 or 9). Across the aisle from them was just one man and a vacant seat. Hours into the flight, everyone on the flight is asleep except me. I glance over at the man and he is masturbating, with only a jacket over his hand! I was horrified, but did nothing. When I later told a friend they were indignant that I hadn't called the flight attendant, but I was really reluctant to cause a fuss, especially because i didn't want my really nice neighbour, and even more so her daughter to wake up and see what was happening. So sometimes there are reasons why we women let men get away with unacceptable behaviour, and at least in this case it was only a relatively worldly person (me) who was uncomfortable

    Binky Melnik
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’Ve never understood men who won’t take “no” for an answer. Do they really believe they’re sooo irresistible that no woman in her right mind could possibly turn them down? There’ve been times I’ve wanted to shout at them “It’ll NEVER happen because you are SO repellent to me that I’m trying not to vomit just TALKING to you!” I’m the type who, if you don’t show even the merest inkling of interest, I go away. It wouldn’t even cross my mind to try to convince a man of my charms. I haven’t the self-esteem for that! … A lightbulb just went off in my brain: perhaps self-esteem is finite, and the reason so many women have so little of it is because so many men took way more than their fair share of it. 🤔

    Kombatbunni
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I had seen this I would have sat between them and told him to back off if he kept it up. Or ask the crew for some duct tape to shut him up

    Thanos'Fingers
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you're not even the paid flight staff who sat a total of 6' away and observed the entire interaction going on, or the captain who took a break from flying to hear OPs complaints!

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    Nikki Angulo
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    6 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the commenters stories about what happened to her on a flight to Dubai, I would have elbowed that perv in the face while making a science saying very clearly and loudly “get your hands off my _____” (whatever body part he was touching) and then quietly said “is it ok if I do that?”

    Sierra (Nyxhawk)
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    5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of when I was a teen working my first job at Taco Bell and this 40 ish year old man starts chatting with me while I’m taking his order. Asks me what I’m dressing up as for Halloween and when I tell him he says “that sounds s*xy, I’d like to see that”. Gross. And, of course, he just keeps going while I’m stuck there waiting for him to finish his order. He also started showing up nearly every day after that. Thankfully, I had an awesome manager and after I told her what happened she always found some reason to put someone else on the register and send me to do something in the office or back of the area anytime he showed up

    Star Riley
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And people wonder why feminists have become so toxic. This is a perfect example of why. Too many uneducated perverts

    Logicgrrl
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We haven't become "so toxic". We're tired of this f*****g s**t happening to us again and again and again.

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    Guess Undheit
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cisgender heterosexual males (e.g. Cheetolini) are the biggest danger to society, especially to women and children. Why are they never the focus of media attention when early all those arrested for sex crimes are cis hetero males?

    Gale Christensen
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was her age, I would have meekly sat and took his s**t. BY the time I was 16, I'd already been molested and SA'd by 15 boys and men. I had resigned myself to accepting that this was my life. Now though? If some creep tried that with me, and they STILL do, he gets set straight hella quick. And usually in a not very nice way.

    Grenelda Thurber
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    5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was so inexperienced when c**p like that started happening, I literally didn't understand. I had just turned 12, and the younger brother (late teen's, early 20's) of my step-dad's coworker asked me how old I was, in front of my mom, step-dad, and step-dad's coworker. When I told him 12, he asked when I would turn 13! Did anyone say a word? No! I didn't know enough to be creeped out. I was just confused about why he wanted to know how old I was and why he wasn't asking anybody else. It wasn't until a few years later that I finally understood.

    Shadow the Dragon King
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    5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something like this once happened to me. I am male, but look much younger than I am and am kind of chubby especially in the chest area. Add that on to the fact that I grow my hair out, have a large butt, and will often have a balsam pillow with me, and it is the perfect storm. At a West Hartford middle school, I was approached by a creepy older student who kept saying stuff like “What’s your name, gorgeous?” and “Why do you keep hiding how big you are, you should be out and proud girl!” (Background: I always wear a hoodie because I am self-conscious about how flabby I am.) It got to the point where he tried to stick his hands up my shorts and down my hoodie. I punched him in the face and ran, and met a group of girls who had the same problem with this creep. We went to go report him, and I ended up getting chewed out for punching him, the principal didn’t believe any of us, and the creep got away scot-free. Turns out his family makes big donations each year to keep him in school.

    Livingwithcfs
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    5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something similar happened to me on a bus years ago, even put his hand on my leg. I was too shocked to do anything right then and broke down at work the next day when it really sunk in. This young woman is made of really strong stuff, I wishedi had been as proactive as she was. No man, old or young should even consider this behavior acceptable

    Tygalily
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    5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OmG- I've mellowed with age but 16yo me would've been yelling at this guy WTF was his problem & using the word PEDOPHILE really loud!!

    sunshine wright
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    Obviously what this guy did isn't right but it in no way reflects men as a whole, and yet all you bitter a*s females try to make it out to sound like this is all men, all the time. I wish more of you would go choose the bear so the world can be rid of your stupidity and toxicity.

    jennifer brinkman
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    American males are pigs not men. Immature a*s hats with no manners. This is why women go to women!!!

    Saphyre Fyre
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    Who said there were no repercussions? Perhaps the boss fired him, but at the right place and time.

    Amy S
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the boss was going to fire him, he would have interviened at some point.

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