28 Brilliant Comebacks People Had To These Dumb Reasons Why Some People Don’t Want The Minimum Wage Raised In The US
For those living in a metropolitan city, $7.25 may feel like a small snack and a drink at best, but for many Americans, this is the reality of the federal minimum hourly wage.
The amount has been exactly the same since 2009, so no wonder that boosting it to $15/h became one of the Biden administration’s priorities. "No one should work 40 hours a week and live in poverty," he announced previously.
But right now, Biden is facing resistance in Congress as he acknowledged that the proposal will likely have to be omitted from the $1.9 trillion coronavirus financial relief plan. And while raising the wage would reduce the number of people in poverty and increase the pay for 27M workers, it will likely increase the federal budget deficit.
Many Americans are feeling cheerful about the prospect, but some are less than impressed. Armed with somewhat questionable arguments, the critics took it to Twitter to share why they don’t want the long-awaited increase of average minimum pay to happen.
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The sad thing is that she defends that it is is fine to live of peoples' backs for a slightly lower price. The same rationale exploits Bangladeshi women who make cheap apparel or mean from Ghana who scavenge Western electronic garbage.
yeah but probably she is an influencer that provides really important pictures to the world.
Load More Replies...this is total bullshit. In Washington where I live the minimum wage is $13.50 an hour. Next door iin Idaho its the federal wage of $7.25. Taco bell prices are the same, the taxes are higher in Washington, so thats the only difference you will pay. In my county its 7.8%, Idah is 6%
That's not actually saying much. If those wages when to that $20 from $19.80, that would be serious increase in Big Mac price. That's probably not it though.
The funny thing would be that if McDonalds would become as expensie as a normal restaurant, that would kind of mean that McDonals is charging the same for heated up frozen food as other people for cooked meals (assuming that it is a normal quality restaurant).
If there's a minimum wage, shouldn't there also be a MAXIMUM wage? Let's be generous and say $200,000 a year. If you can't live well on that amount, you're a financial halfwit.
Tax is what we pay to live in a developed and progressive country. This is how we maintain highways clean, waterworks, refuse pick up, etc. Growth, changes in economy and demand drive tax, wages, the mark up of prices of goods. The working class also helps pay for those who need government assistance. This is how it works, else, where is the money going to come from. It's simple, some may not like it, but it's simple math people.
The cost of a gallon of gas in Denmark is nearly $6, pair of Jean's $114, 12 oz bottle of water $3.21. The US average gas price $2.88, Jean's $61, 12 oz bottle of water $1.00. This statement is misleading. Also I would discourage anyone from using Denmark as a benchmark for US policy.
Wait, so you mean if someone works every waking minute then that should give them enough money to afford the basic necessities of life? That’s insanity!! /s 🙄
Yep, my great grandfather was a shoe salesman after he returned home from the war, until he retired in the '70's...was able to buy a home, a car, and provide a comfortably middle class life for his four kids, and stay at home wife. There is absolutely no reason why that can't be the case today. People working 40 hours a week shouldn't live below the poverty line. The system is disgraceful, and the "powers that be" who refuse to acknowledge that, should be ashamed of themselves. This cannot continue if there's any hope of this country surviving.
This is so inaccurate; "FLSA was a comprehensive federal scheme which provided for minimum wages, overtime pay, record keeping requirements, and child labor regulations. The purpose of the minimum wage was to stabilize the post-depression economy and protect the workers in the labor force. The minimum wage was designed to create a minimum standard of living to protect the health and well-being of employees." #FACTS
Nope not set up for you to live good. It was set up to.....The purpose of a living wage is to make sure that all full-time workers have enough money to live above the federal poverty level. The minimum wage is the wage mandated by law, to keep employees above the poverty level in their area. However, the minimum wage is simply not enough to provide one with the means to live.
The system absolutely SHOULD be broken. It only works for the privileged few.
The federal minimum wage is currently $7.25 per hour and it has stayed the same since 2009, making it an unlivable income in most parts of the US. In late January, Democrats introduced the Raise the Wage Act of 2021, which would gradually increase the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 by 2025.
But the White House acquiesced to a Senate parliamentarian's ruling that a minimum wage increase to $15 an hour could not be included in the Covid-19 relief bill working through Congress. Meanwhile, President Joe Biden, on whom 27M workers rely right now, promised to not give up and try again.
Vermont also Sen. Bernie Sanders stated on Friday: “If anybody thinks that we're giving up on this issue, they are sorely mistaken," and added: "If we have to vote on it time and time again, we will and we're going to succeed. The American people understand that we cannot continue to have millions of people working for starvation wages."
I'm really struggling with how packing boxes is more "skilled" labour than working as a fry cook.
i think he confuses "skilled" with "i got an explanation on how to do this"
Load More Replies...Cooking isn't skilled?? Bull! Takes more skill to make a meal than to seal a box.
This is the problem - the lowest tier infighting protects the bosses who are laughing all of the way to the bank. The shippers and the cooks need to realize they are on the same team. The power that will result once we (because it is WE - I don't think there are any bazillionaires on BP) realize that and actually work together, we will have the 1% shitting in their pants.
Keep the rich rich and keep the poor poor. Yes, we could change the world but we're too busy being separated from each other.
Load More Replies...Everyone is so upset that someone at McDonalds could make what they make. If you labor is truly worth more than that of someone working at McDonalds then congratulations, you have a really great bargaining chip when you go to your boss and tell them you need a raise or you are going to work at McDs. If they don't give you a raise, then go take that "easy" job working fast food where everyone in the world treats you like s**t and you are expected to smile through it.
I think calling it Skilled labor requires it to be an actual skill like knowing how to do something that isn't common knowledge. I really don't think boxing things requires that much more skill than giving me delicious breakfast biscuits.
I think mc Donald's work is more "Skilled" than packing boxes
Load More Replies...I believe people should be able to support themselves on min wage. What I hate about minimum wage being raised is the corporate companies don't want to lose a penny so they raise the price of necessity such as food, and they cut employees hours. That should be illegal.
Some people really don't seem to be able to wrap their heads around the idea that the expense is supposed to come out of the pointy end of the income pyramid
And where I live the minimum wage is $7.25 and Taco Bells most expensive Burrito is $1.89.
Traditionally, the divide in Washington has been seen between labor and its Democratic allies, and business and its Republican allies. However, according to NBCNews, this time, the minimum wage fight is now “divided into three camps, none of which neatly conform to expected ideological or business groupings: There are those who support a full $15 minimum wage, those opposed to raising the wage at all and a large group in the middle open to raising the minimum to, say, $10 an hour but not all the way to $15.”
I don't get the captions... So isn't it supposed to say "your job is so soft and easy you don't deserve the same wage as me for my dirty heavy job". But then that implies the persons d**k is really soft when they wake up? Now to the real question here: Isn't morning wood like really common for people with penises? Like isn't a hardon normal when waking up? So how does this make sense? Am I overthinking things again?
Yes you are. It's saying that fast food worker's jobs aren't hard at all, so they shouldn't be being paid more. (It's not true at all)
Load More Replies...Yeah, the response to the mother’s comment makes this smell fake to me too.
Load More Replies...$15/hr affords a luxury car? I didn't know a 2003 Kia Spectra was viewed in such high regard.
I get paided more than that and still can't afford a luxury car!
Load More Replies...Ok, USD 15 an hours is 600 a week, or about 2500 a month. This luxury car must be a miniature modell...
I think a lot of this attitude comes from older people who haven't updated their internal reference for what things cost. For instance, my car (when new, in 1994) cost $24,000. It was arguably a luxury car at the time. If someone hadn't updated their idea of what things cost, then someone earning $15/hr could afford a $24k car. However, due to inflation, my car would cost $42k today (which blows my mind), and $24k gets you a Toyota Corolla.
Load More Replies...I am pretty sure there will be no luxury cars bought on $15/hr wages.
Nobody can buy a luxury car on $15. That's roughly $30,000 per year. I make twice that and can't afford a luxury car.
And most minimum wage earners aren't kids. They're adults with families and children, and they're usually assigned to work 38 hours so the company doesn't have to give them insurance, which is due to someone who works 40 hours.
kids working at McDonalds Australia make more per hour than managers at American McDonalds stores. But tell me more about how a minimum wage is a horrible thing
Minimum Wage in 1976: $2.10 an hour. Average hourly pay was $6.50. Cost of a new Ford LTD was $7,150. Cost of an average new home was $48,360. Jump to 2021: Wage is $7.25. Average hourly pay is $11.29. New Ford, $50,000. Cost of an average new home is $408,300. SO you want the lowest skilled part time worker to get paid more than the current average worker? Okay, but then the average skilled worker needs the sane percentage in pay increase to make things right, and that puts you right back to where the minimum wage earner can not afford to live. Why? Because a minimum wage job is not meant to support a family, or even a single person.
I like that, you take the lowest wage earners and compare their lifestyle to the median lifestyle and complain they don't make enough! That's how you make change #FACTS
Load More Replies...They’ll never want to hire high school workers then if that’s the case. I feel like it’ll be some sort of backlash. I feel the job market will be even more difficult and everyone has to have 2343 years of experience. I tend to be a pessimist, but I really don’t see how this is just going to make everything hunky dory. The price of things will rise.
HAHAHAHAHA, the BILLIONAIRE is the enemy! Those billionaires are the only reason any of you have jobs! If they hadn't risked everything to get where they are you'd still be working in the sweat shops and fields with underage kids! #FACTS
When was the last time the COMPAINERS even tried to live on less than $15/hour?? That is a GROSS wage not Net.
Someone has to do the lower paying jobs too and I have great respect for these people. They the most deserve a decent salary
Exactly, the politicians who oppose keeping the minimum wage in line with inflation are by and large the exact same ones who oppose worker's rights in general.
And that's for 2017. The calculator I looked at says it's worth $20 in 2020.
Yeah I saw someone finally point out that the $15 minimum wage was appropriate when people first brought it up like 10 years ago but it should be more now,
Load More Replies...And then add in the fact that the price of college tuition (as well as health insurance and in many places, housing) has been increasing at a MUCH greater rate than overall inflation for the past few decades.
Aaaand without student loans, high real estate costs, and likely still a raise when you get married. Smh.
must be nice, in 1994 i was making 3.75$ an hr. he was rich in 1980 making 6$ an hr
Minimum wage in 1980 was about $2.85. And yes, you could live off it.
He also didn't have to pay for laptops, cellphones, monthly wifi connections, streaming services, multiple car payments, designer clothing....the list goes on. You can make it on minimum wage, it's called living within your means! #FACTS
If you didn’t show him this, do you even have the RIGHT to show us? Speak up for yourself. You are right. Correcting someone shouldn’t be silenced.
Meanwhile, various polls have been showing that a majority of Americans support raising the minimum wage. And while others are waiting for a nationwide decision, a number of cities and states have already lifted the floors of their own wage to $15.
Seven states (Alaska, Florida, Minnesota, Montana, Ohio, South Dakota, and Vermont) automatically increased their rates based on the cost of living and 14 states (Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, and Washington) increased their rates due to previously approved legislation or ballot initiatives.
$100,000 at $15/hr is 128 hours a week, or 18 hours a day - assuming in both cases that you work for 365 days without a break.
Even if someone made $100k a year taking someone's orders at Taco Bell, it still wouldn't affect Jack's life. So why is Jack bothered with what someone else earns in whatever job they are working?
Get a contractor who will let you use their license and make a business. Get a real estate license. Strip. All of those will get you to $100k in a year without needing years of education. I know because I have done them all.
Load More Replies...That is still getting paid too much. At $15.00 an hour you are being paid twice what it costs to live in this country. The average cost per month to live is between $1000 and $1500 a month. That is living good. Not great, but not horrible either. At $15 an hour you are making $2600 a month. SO you want everyone to be paid twice as much as what it costs to live? So if I choose to life in a mansion and drive a new sports car, I should be entitled to $1,000 and hour wage?
Yeah someone doesn’t know math and I’m not exactly partial to the $15 an hour idea either
Well that's what Tucker told him and Tucker always gives him the best scoop.
She's worse, Scum can feed things, she's just parasitic.
Load More Replies...Tomi Lahren is as relevant to the world as a dead possum, be it that even a dead possum has higher morals than Tomi Lahren.
Donald Trump might have higher morals. It’s a toss up.
Load More Replies...Tomi. Tomi, Tomi, Tomi. You need to learn to keep your mouth shut.
I work in a grocery store and have for 3 years, not a single raise, 7.25 and hour (minimum wage in Utah)
It's time to join the grocery union: UFCW. Three years at minimum wage without even a cost of living raise is unacceptable.
Load More Replies...i know for a fact that the grocery chain in my city pays their cashiers, baggers and stockers 12-15$ an hr and i live in texas.
May we suggest to desi that she should be paid minimum wage until she reads the first chapter of a basic textbook on economics?
But she can't live the rest of her life on minimum wage!
Load More Replies...I asked this many times. But again: are people in the US really THAT dumb?
Sometimes people have to take a low paying job because it's the only available job. It's not always a choice
The purpose of a living wage is to make sure that all full-time workers have enough money to live above the federal poverty level. The minimum wage is the wage mandated by law, to keep employees above the poverty level in their area. However, the minimum wage is simply not enough to provide one with the means to live.......from the bill when it was first set up. Not now or never was meant to live on with a family.
lol minimum wage is not a "minimum wage to live a life". it was set up so that employers couldn't pay employees as little as they wanted to. The movement for minimum wages was first motivated as a way to stop the exploitation of workers in sweatshops, by employers who were thought to have unfair bargaining power over them.
One can easily life off of minimum wage if one chooses to. And yes, when it was first implemented decades ago, minimum wage was to ensure a lowest base rate one could pay so that an employee was not exploited. That is not so today, for back then, you did not have teens wanting jobs with no skills, old people wanting to get out of the house and make a little cash. Times change people. Change with them or get the hell out. If you are banking on supporting a family on minimum wage, then you are too dumb to get paid any more than the current wage. Get some training and education and get a decent paying job, or shut the hell up.
Value is created when people stop being complicit with those who exploit.
Even if they’re referring to the “value” that the executives at a company make for their investors, who do they think is doing the labor that makes that value?
Minimum wage jobs are IMHO, the majority of the hardest ones. Repetition, stress, dealing with uppity douche bags and no chance to use your creativity... horror
Me too! I say install one in every city to get the point across.
Load More Replies......or, you figure out how to turn the handle faster and longer without your attention needed to be given to it 100% of the time. It's called job progression! The ones who stop......complain they need to make more, cause that's easier! #FACTS
Only newly hired people get minimum wage. Once you prove your a decent employee, you get raises and promotion. I do not know anyone working at any job for a year or more, still getting minimum wage, except for the lazy and stupid ones.
So, the people who inspect life saving vaccines for critical defects at pharmaceutical companies often start out as temps who make minimum wage. No you don't need a college degree to look at vials. It's both easy and stressful. Because you also package the product and it requires heavy lifting, pallet jacks, standing and sitting for extended periods. And you have to be SUPER FOCUSED. Now, the person who inspects the COVID-19 vaccine, to make sure the filling line didn't screw up (those guys make way more, btw) should get more than 13.50 an hour, yes? It doesn't sound like a minimum wage job but it is.
Low paid workers don't deserve to be able to afford to live? You would find yourself inconvenienced in many ways if they were not there!
So people working 40 hours or more at those jobs shouldn’t earn enough to live ? What are they supposed to do then ? Get a second job and maybe a third job, so they can work themselves to death ?
Someone have a word salad translator for this girl? It's healthy for society to be poor and homeless with no healthcare etc?? What?? Probably a rich witch living off Daddy or Mommy's money.
It's called job progression and stagnation. Those who progress in their job skills don't have to worry about minimum wage. Those who stagnate.....complain about wanting more money without showing any progression, cause it's easier to just complain! #FACTS
Well, Then, I will hire you to wipe my Butt every time I poop and pay you nothing,How's that1
Starter jobs were never meant to live on and support a family. They were all called min starter jobs for a reason. .....The purpose of a living wage is to make sure that all full-time workers have enough money to live above the federal poverty level. The minimum wage is the wage mandated by law, to keep employees above the poverty level in their area. However, the minimum wage is simply not enough to provide one with the means to live.
Jobs that are part tome and meant for people who are not fully in the employment cycle, are not suppose to pay a living wage. Hell, let's just raise the minimum to $100 an hour, then everyone will be rich and happy. Of course till you try to buy anything.
Moreover, Florida voters approved Amendment 2, raising the state minimum wage to $15.00 per hour by 2026. The amendment raises the minimum wage to $10.00 per hour effective September 2021, with a continuing annual increase until reaching $15.00 per hour.
School has tests and quizzes to confirm you actually learned something. That dumb trash will never reply and never learn what was taught to them.
Load More Replies...What particularly irritates me is the idea that one half of the equation (the poor people) are seen as unreasonable for wanting to be able to live above a poverty line, but non of thecommentators seem to think the exploitative multi billion dollar corporations are unreasonable in trying to pay peanuts.
Part of the problem is the entire concept of American existence is based off of raising the quality of life for some at the expense of the quality of life of others.
Load More Replies...Also to note- many places won’t let you rent unless you make 3 TIMES the amount of what is their monthly rent.
Yes and it used to be FOUR until the Great Recession.
Load More Replies...Hey! i live in the south. Texas to be exact! I live on Social Security.The cheapest apartment around here-An effieiency is 1,400 per-Not counting utilities.You wanna pay the difference?
So many falsehoods with this statement. First off you're implying that EVERY job starts you off at $7.25 FALSE. Second, you're implying that EVERY person has to have a place of their own when most people get roommates, cause it's more ECONOMICAL! Third, you act as if NOONE can ride a bike or get a scooter. I know a ton of people who use both! Lastly, Food Stamps is a Federal program and not a State program, so you're a LIAR! #FACTS
No not every state pays for you lunch hour. But the law is you have to be given lunch and breaks.
. For those with condescending comments about workers who make minimum wage...chances are over the last 400 years you had immigrant ancestors who took a risk by coming to the USA with very little money in their pockets. Most would do whatever it took to make money for themselves and/or their families. Have a bit of compassion for those who work at the jobs you hold in contempt. You do not know why they work minimum wage jobs because you have not walked a mile in their shoes. These people and all who settled here have contributed to the development, infrastructure and growth of our country.
Someone did not understand the invisible hand. There is no working supply and demand as long as the market is imperfect, which it is due to the asymetry of information and power. If you use clever terms, be sure that you actually grasp them!
In a closed system with a fully fair playing field that MIGHT work. But our system is not fair. Big business lobbies for unfair advantages. And we have other countries willing to work for less. And EVEN IF those countries had similarly fair systems (which they do not), it would take a generation or two of our citizens forced to work for the same wages as those living in far poorer countries while we wait for a truly even playing field.
zero minimum wage is not slavery. as long as the person is free to choose where to work and whether to work they are not slaves.
Well, tecnically we "can" choose work or no, but *surprise* we need to in order to not starve
Load More Replies...Tried to help a friend in college level economics at local community college. The textbook had sections about how minimum wage is unfair, rent control is unfair. Not here are the pros and cons, just straight up propaganda.
Load More Replies...Because those folks working those minimum wage type jobs need to work because they’ll get fired for not coming in. They’re not there because they want to be there; they need to survive and get that pay check.
Plus, they'll quickly fire your ass if you call out without first finding a replacement for that shift, regardless as to why you need to why you need to call out. I had a fever a few weeks back, we were told to absolutely not come in if you have a fever, the store manager yelled at me for not finding a replacement for my 10:00 AM shift that I woke up at 9:00 AM for. It didn't matter that I was new and, obviously, didn't know anyone, much less they're f*****g home numbers. He said, "So what? You're not going to come in anyway?" I went into full half ass mode from then in out
Load More Replies...They are smiling because they know they've just spit in your coffee, arrogant pri*k.
One time I had a job where management said weather was no excuse --- in Colorado. Can't get your car out of snow, just call us, we'll come get you. Next snow storm (18 inches), some employees called the company, but nobody came to pick them up, cause 'surprise,' managers couldn't get their cars going.
If he's referring to the Ottawa in Canada: it's a government town. Nearly 20% of people for the federal government, so they have pretty good benefits, including sick leave, and many can work from home. Nearly 20% are in high-tech (salaries & benefits vary). Finance, insurance, real estate take up another 10%. That's plenty of people who can work from home. Some have to, because they have children and schools are closed.
I understand that Don Martin is being sarcastic in implying that high-earners are lazy and weak, but he hasn't really though this through, as xHinatax has pointed out.
Load More Replies...They are only smiling because they are ordered to smile by the boss, for customers who still treat them poorly half of the time.
It’s funny how so many toss teens under the bus with labor, but do the math: college is extremely expensive and to pay tuition at the uni I work at you need 83 hours a week all summer. In 1980 you could pay tuition in 20 hours a week all summer. Many Americans are cobbling together a life on 2-4 of these jobs that for some reason were vital during the pandemic, but not valuable enough to pay adequately.
Not to mention that the work impacts their study and rest time.
Load More Replies...Dead on the money... I spent years working in hospitality and can tell you how crappy people are to servers, bartenders, clerks, cashiers etc. That bullshit alone ain't worth $7.75 an hour. Besides, most bartenders and servers rely on tips and the power hungry idiots know it and love to feel their power to ruin someone's night who busted their asses for 3 hours catering to their sad sack family or group only to be left a measly $1.00 tip. This happens from teens to 60 year olds. This needs to stop ASAP!
USA employment numbers: Fast Food: 4,866,651 Grocery: 2,700,000 Waiter: 2,500,000 Janitor: 2,374,200 Cashier: 3,600,900 Retail (not including grocery): 4,771,000 Delivery Driver: 1,506,000 Total "Teen" Jobs: 22,319,751 Total Teens 15-19 living in the USA: 21,050,000 As you can see, THERE ARE NOT EVEN ENOUGH TEENAGERS TO DO ALL THE JOBS YOU THINK ONLY TEENAGERS SHOULD BE DOING.
Thanks for doing the math. Been saying the same. If everyone "got a better job" who left to do not good jobs ,? Also note : waiters, waitress get paid 2.13.
Load More Replies...One thing not mentioned is that many adults hold those burger flipping and bagging jobs. They do in my neighborhood. I'm sure many of them have families, exorbitant living expenses, medical bills, etc. And I'm guessing many parents would rather their teenager focus on school, and not try to juggle school + work just to help the family.
The purpose of a living wage is to make sure that all full-time workers have enough money to live above the federal poverty level. The minimum wage is the wage mandated by law, to keep employees above the poverty level in their area. However, the minimum wage is simply not enough to provide one with the means to live.
Why instead just a thought, can we not idk maybe lower the cost of living, food, and utilities? Why not make things more affordable. As of now where I live the cost of a gallon of gas is nearly $3 which is almost half of the minimum wage. To eat a combo at a McDonald’s usually cost more than $7.25 an hour so a worker can’t even afford to eat at the very place they work at in one hours time. Inflation is a bitch. The burger likely cost less than $1 to make yet we have to pay markups by more than 500%. That’s where the problems lie. They’ll continue to rise unless something is changed and giving more money hourly won’t do it
Seeing americans all hands up for teenagers working and being against child labor at same time O.o We have a saying "you won't understand Russia with logic" Very same can be applied for US
so who is working the lunch rush? after all, fast food jobs are just for teens. who are meant to be at school during the day. It's a simple fact that despite paying higher wages, McDonalds stores that have more adult staff than teens have a higher profit margin and much lower recidivism.
Not to mention, this goes in circles. "Go to college and get a better job!" "But I can't afford college." "So get a loan!" "I can't afford to pay my loan." "So don't get a loan and work your way through school, like I did in the '70s!" "I literally cannot work enough hours on minimum wage to afford a public university." "So get a better job!" "But I don't have a degree!"
A college degree no longer guarantees a good wage and can come with crippling debt. I went to college, had a good job and salary for over 25 years, then the position moved to India and I found out that the whole industry had basically moved what I did overseas or out of state. Also, no one was looking to hire and train someone in their 50s. I just accepted a job paying $16 per hour.
YES! Thank you! My oldest daughter got her Master's, has a crippling debt that she may pay on until she is 66 years old, and works two jobs; an Amazon sorting center and maid service at a huge hotel. Yet she lives in a tiny apartment and has no savings. Thank YOU college for training her in a field with little jobs available.
Load More Replies...Teens working after school deserve to get paid a decent wage like everyone else, and they rarely work more than 15 hours a week. It's possible a high school kid is working just for pocket money, but they may be working to help their family out, buy a car or pay for car insurance, the may also have to work so they can attend college.
Frankly if you think that you are a professional anything on 15/hour then you wasted your time at college...
What is a dead-end job? Oh, they meant a job beneath them. Just say that! Your dead-end job may be another one's blessing, so they get to eat every day. You stuck up... Bleeperdebleepbleep!
What is wrong too and is deeply rooted in this country, is that if you don't go to college or university, you don't deserve a good salary because you're lazy, lazy, not everyone has the opportunity to study, and not because they are lazy. . Life chances are not the same for everyone.
if you're a "professional" only earning 15 an hour, you suck. Kids in Australia out earn you on a weekly basis. Have some pride and demand more
Bettie Douglas, a cashier at Which Wich Superior Sandwiches in St. Louis, Missouri who makes $10 an hour, told CNN that her salary barely covers rent, bills, and food.
She commented: "I deserve a liveable wage. Anyone who works deserves to take care of their families, feed their families, pay their bills, afford the necessities of life. I'm not asking for a handout, I'm working as much as I can. $10 is just not making it, and $15 isn't going to really make it either but at least it'll help."
No they didn't flunk... They outright lied for their own profit.
Load More Replies...Nah. In-N-Out is hella good, yes, and I live in the Midwest, but the freshness and quality is what makes it so good. None of their stores are more than a certain distance from their plants.
Load More Replies...Frankly,My dear, Hamburgers aren't healthy for you anyway .Eat More Fish!, NOT fried either!
Interesting that these people kow exactly why some people need to work in low-incoming jobs. "Lazyness" is such an easy explanation. What about illness? Bad fate in live? Other hardships? If you are at the bottom, it might not be as easy to get up as some imagine.
It's an easy shortcut. There are arguments that a minimum wage job should only be for those just starting out - not with a home and family to support, but an entry to the world of work where the minimum salary corresponds to minimum responsibilities and consequences for making mistakes. But the truth makes a mockery of that with the realities of bad luck. Many people who progress out of minimum wage jobs forget the role that luck played in their life, and prefer not to consider that bad luck can land them back at square one just as easily. ETA - I should have added that even for a starter job $7.25 is an insult. Sorry, I thought that was obvious! The UK equivalent at the current exchange rate is $12 for those aged 25 and over. To be paid $7.25 you'd have to be under 18 (and so presumably living at home with no additional responsibilities)
Load More Replies...lol stop starving to death underneath the rubble of an apartment block just have a snack
The "bad jobs" are the ones that are more important because what would you do if all of your local grocery stores close- or ALL grocery stores close? You would farm, to eat. Then no one would buy cuz there all dead or have it or can't afford it. Which means that you can't afford anything, which means that when tax comes around you can't pay, which means you will die. NOW, this means that the entire economy will crash, and then you will realize that they are needed but now no one is left to do it. This is bad, and this is just the crashing one 1 job.
"If you want a living wage get a better job" is like saying "If you want to stop living in an apartment, buy a better house."
Not to mention that college costs a fuckton of money that you have to borrow from a bank and pay a bullshit percentage rate of interest on, that you might be paying off until you're 70 years old. But yeah, shame on me for not wanting to pay for school loans.
Actually that whole “money is morality / rich people are better and more good” mentality is very very very veryyyy deep and was the social belief perpetuated by the church on purpose to protect the rich. It’s literally psychological warfare. And side note, it’s one of the many reasons why evangelicals are immoral as a group.
And while they are living in poverty, the middle-income people are paying taxes to fund programs to feed the children at school, or providing relief to the elderly. The millionaires are getting off with fewer taxes in spite of being capable of funding these programs and their children will still have a Harvard education. The more the gaps are reduced , the more better the community thrives. (less crime, stronger family life)
This person probably does not even understand half the s**t he is saying.
Okay, correct me if I'm wrong. Genuinely. But wouldn't raising the minimum wage to a comfortable living wage put extra spending money in people's pockets therefore help the economy with more people being able to afford to make personal purchases? Rather than people living paycheck to paycheck barley affording the bare minimum? But what do I know?
Seems like this person throws "ethnic" around a lot. Just kind of habit now.
Words "breakfast" and "MacDonalds" do not even go into one sentence in my wordbook :D
So, he thinks a person needs to work more than 1h just to pay an f-cking McDonald's?
How about this.One four oz. bowl of cereal.I quarter cup of milk.at no cost to you.that doesn't exist for poor kids on school food programs you selfish twit!
That's not a side order. SUB Canadian Bacon just meant leave out the Bacon and substitute Canadian Bacon. Two items; a sandwich and juice.
I read the first thing as sarcastic because it was ELEVEN CENTS over. Lol I laughed so hard.
My breakfast today - one bowl of cereal (£2.49), 25 ml (approx) milk poured over it (from 4 pint carton, price £1.05), and a glass of apple juice (approx 300ml from a 1L carton, price 89p). Nowhere near £10, or whatever the exchange rate to USD is. And I won't have to buy anything more until next week. If you're spending £10/$10 a day on breakfast alone, that s**t is on you.
This concepts of buying power and inflation go hard on those who want to ingore them.
And it happened so fast that the current crop of leaders were benefiting directly from the ability to buy homes, education, etc much more cheaply, so they don’t get it.
Load More Replies...My first job paid $3.25 per hour, which was minimum wage at the time. I rented a one bedroom apartment for $130 per month, utilities included. That same apartment in that same small town now goes for $700 per month without utilities. But yeah...why raise the minimum wage?
I was a cashier at a Fred Meyer grocery store a few years ago, making $11.25/hour. A nice customer said he worked there in the 70s, made $7.85/hour and loved his job and the company. 35 years later and I only made $3.40 more than him! Of course he loved his job in the 70s. He got to buy a house, take vacations, and send his to kids to affordable colleges. And here’s the thing: when Fred Meyer was paying its employees a livable wage, back when Fred himself was running the company, it consistently grew and was profitable. But Fred died, it’s owned by Kroger and their heartless shareholders now, and is nothing but a profit farm. As another customer told me, “I knew Fred. He would be sick to see what’s become of his company.”
And now they throw food into a dpyer and get cops to stop people from taking it. If cops don't need warrant to take what's in your trash, why are they stopping people from taking what is in a business trash ?
Load More Replies...Hey, Fromacomrad! When you were doing this, our dollar had more buying power too-Stupid!
wow. in a post from a year later, using the same calculator, 6 turned into 17. almost like someone altered the results to make a point.
You know who cares about doing a good job and providing good customer service? Someone who is paid to care. You paying me $7.25 an hour so I can't pay my bills, then I don't care enough to care about your customers because when I am worried about eating and a place to stay, my stress and metal health are so screwed I am going to screw up your order. I am the second highest position in my department where we review human subject research at one of the largest research universities in America, Dunkin Donuts could double my paycheck I have now and I still would never work for them again. Healthcare research is less stressful than working fast food. Getting my Masters was easier than working in the fast food industry. I would rather live in a tent then ever do it again.
lets count the ways Ned messed up here... I have; 1/ Australia isn't in Europe; 2/ they don't use Euros; 3/ if their currency is higher that makes a "European" $20 even more then an American $20, meaning the Aussies would be paid more then US$20/hr; 4/ this guy is the one that needs to learn. Not bad for just 26 words.
Your forgetting one. To learn the difference between Austria and Australia
Load More Replies...Come on guys, Australia is in Europe, since they take part in the Eurovision 😏
Correct, he should have pointed that out. But it's exactly the $15 US he was talking about.
Load More Replies...I don't know... maybe it's beneficial?? Hmm... like maybe PAYING FOR COLLEGE or something?
Load More Replies...another wild idea is : a high school junior shouldn't be working. He should be studying, sporting, crafting, ... and his parents should be able to make enough to cover the dough.
They shouldn’t NEED to work. Work experience is a great way to learn and gain life experience as a teen. My best memories of my teenage years were working in the mall at a fashion boutique. I made $8.00 an hour and it was like 2002, and even that still wasn’t the same purchase power as the boomers had when they were teens.
Load More Replies...Like saying a woman shouldn't make as much as a man... or people of color don't deserve the same wages... You do the job, you get the pay! REGARDLESS of age, sex, color etc. That includes young people.
Half of the arguments are about how people paid for college, etc. working a low wage job 30 to 50 years ago. And the other half is how they don't want young people to have wages that would allow them to get paid enough at low wage jobs to pay for those same things today.
Whoever is doing the job should be properly compensated for that effort.
Are they doing the work? Then yes, they should make $15 per hour. This is like the pay disparity between women and men.
I see a lot of complaints about kids making $15 an hour. Do you people not have junior wages? it's a sliding pay scale from the ages of 14y9m to 21 years old. 14 year olds are paid a pittance, and it slowly increases annually until they hit 21, by which time they need to earn an adult wage to support themselves. It's worked in many countries around the world though, so OF COURSE it will never work in America.
Minimum wage debate. Blue responded to the “just get a better job” argument by comparing it normal people being expected to just play in the NFL if they wanted a better job despite their mental or physical limitations.
"Just get a better job". Fine, let those w minimum wages all just quit and get better jobs. Then there's no movie theaters, no burger joints, no public restrooms and what not. How is this even a discussion? Especially in the states where EVERYTHING costs 😱
Get a Better job? I would, Except there's stupid person doing it that can't count, can't make change and you know why? because he or she had to drop OUT of school to help pay for food and rent for his brothers and sisters who need to eat. Get a Life People!!
This was on Buzzfeed, too. I think we should all make a living wage and beyond. I do not think simply raising the wage is going to help with inflation. The mom and pop stores may reduce your 40 hrs to 25 so your take home is the same. Or they can raise the product or service price, driving away customers, and those neccessary items you now pay for at a higher price. I am in a state that voted for like a $3+ wage raise. It was really hard on everyone. I worked non profit childcare. We all know American childcare has no money and can barely pay the min wage So the $3+ has to come from parents paying. Parents don't make enough and complain about costs anyway. Between that and the pandemic so many childcares shut down. The money going to CEOS will still go to CEOS. Your overly priced popcorn at the movies will now go up more to pay the employee, so your extra $7-8 for that hour you worked goes directly to that popcorn. You're saving nothing.
Why lie when everything you’re saying has been disproven on the very article you’re commenting on?
Load More Replies...The amount of people in the US that are against other US citizens making a living wage is shocking... Instead of fighting to keep your neighbors wages low why not fight to increase your own? If you are upset that you went to school for years and now make the same as someone that didn't you need to fight to increase the wage in your field, not fight to keep yours the same and someone elses lower.
It's the same people that don't want universal healthcare even if it means lowing the cost of healthcare for everyone -- I don't know when Americans started hating other Americans so much that they'll vote down any measure that helps everyone because they think someone might get some advantage from it without "earning" it.
Load More Replies...The mentality of 'I don't want to see someone doing well for themselves' regarding wages and healthcare in USA is disturbing...
well, they loves to see people suffer while they think they are better. when, in fact they are so stupid and arrogant
Load More Replies...And the thing is, more poor people making more money is so much better for the economy. Think about it -- what creates more jobs, one billionaire buying a Ferrari or 40 ordinary people buying Chevy Sparks?
" Communist! ". It's a joke of course, i totally agree but dumb antisocialists would say it.
Load More Replies...Why are so many americans against anything that could give their fellow citizens a decent life? Minimum wage and "free" healthcare. Why is it so bad to have?
Because Americans are (or were) brought up to believe that they could be a success on their own merit, by doing the hard work themselves. Somewhere along the lines this came to also mean that to be a success it was ONLY on their own merit and by doing the hard work themselves. So if someone becomes a success with a helping hand, they "cheated" somehow, and that's not fair. Of course, this massively overlooks the significance that luck (bad and good) and privilege plays in the part of the success AND the merit.
Load More Replies...A $15/hr minimum means teenagers could afford college more easily. Wow, that's a tragedy... Oh wait, yes, for some people, it is. Wouldn't want the kiddos learning how to think and get an education, would they? (Yes, I'm in favor of the living wage. Alawys have been. Why? Because I've had to live at the so-called "it's fine" wage. If you need three jobs to afford a rathole apartment with ramen noodle dinners... Something is wrong, but it's not your work ethic!)
Proper education would probably destroy the Republican Party. We all know it.
Load More Replies...I don't think the argument is really about the value of work. It's about the value of people, and those against a livable minimum wage just don't value the people doing menial work — work they wouldn't want to do themselves.
You can have an opinion about the societal division of welfare, but before you make economic arguments get a basic understanding how macroeconomics work. Besides, societies with a low gini coefficient (measuring income inequality, lower is more equal) tend to be much happier. This includes those at the top end of the income!
Seriously, there are many things from Europe, from which they can learn and just copy, like healthcare systems, school systems, minimum wages, insurances etc. But noooo, this is "socialism". This is the prove as well, how stupid they look at things... Biggest problem can be, that they feel soooo entitled for whatever. In Slovakia we have proverb about this, in free translation: there is no help for somebody, who can't take any advice...
Load More Replies...The teen argument never makes sense to me because on one hand you're complaining about a type of worker that a large majority of the time isn't working 40 hours a week, so they're not getting a career out of it in that moment. Secondly, you don't want teens to make a livable wage, but you also don't want college to be free or at least dramatically cheaper because it's our fault for being victims to predatory loans. Thus, you want nothing to change, you want everything to stay as is, wherein people live in poverty in one of the richest countries in the world, and the college debt crisis continues because no one can outright afford it if they aren't at least somewhat wealthy. Yeah, remind me to never pick you to lead anything as you clearly have zero leaderships skills.
The amount of people in the US that are against other US citizens making a living wage is shocking... Instead of fighting to keep your neighbors wages low why not fight to increase your own? If you are upset that you went to school for years and now make the same as someone that didn't you need to fight to increase the wage in your field, not fight to keep yours the same and someone elses lower.
It's the same people that don't want universal healthcare even if it means lowing the cost of healthcare for everyone -- I don't know when Americans started hating other Americans so much that they'll vote down any measure that helps everyone because they think someone might get some advantage from it without "earning" it.
Load More Replies...The mentality of 'I don't want to see someone doing well for themselves' regarding wages and healthcare in USA is disturbing...
well, they loves to see people suffer while they think they are better. when, in fact they are so stupid and arrogant
Load More Replies...And the thing is, more poor people making more money is so much better for the economy. Think about it -- what creates more jobs, one billionaire buying a Ferrari or 40 ordinary people buying Chevy Sparks?
" Communist! ". It's a joke of course, i totally agree but dumb antisocialists would say it.
Load More Replies...Why are so many americans against anything that could give their fellow citizens a decent life? Minimum wage and "free" healthcare. Why is it so bad to have?
Because Americans are (or were) brought up to believe that they could be a success on their own merit, by doing the hard work themselves. Somewhere along the lines this came to also mean that to be a success it was ONLY on their own merit and by doing the hard work themselves. So if someone becomes a success with a helping hand, they "cheated" somehow, and that's not fair. Of course, this massively overlooks the significance that luck (bad and good) and privilege plays in the part of the success AND the merit.
Load More Replies...A $15/hr minimum means teenagers could afford college more easily. Wow, that's a tragedy... Oh wait, yes, for some people, it is. Wouldn't want the kiddos learning how to think and get an education, would they? (Yes, I'm in favor of the living wage. Alawys have been. Why? Because I've had to live at the so-called "it's fine" wage. If you need three jobs to afford a rathole apartment with ramen noodle dinners... Something is wrong, but it's not your work ethic!)
Proper education would probably destroy the Republican Party. We all know it.
Load More Replies...I don't think the argument is really about the value of work. It's about the value of people, and those against a livable minimum wage just don't value the people doing menial work — work they wouldn't want to do themselves.
You can have an opinion about the societal division of welfare, but before you make economic arguments get a basic understanding how macroeconomics work. Besides, societies with a low gini coefficient (measuring income inequality, lower is more equal) tend to be much happier. This includes those at the top end of the income!
Seriously, there are many things from Europe, from which they can learn and just copy, like healthcare systems, school systems, minimum wages, insurances etc. But noooo, this is "socialism". This is the prove as well, how stupid they look at things... Biggest problem can be, that they feel soooo entitled for whatever. In Slovakia we have proverb about this, in free translation: there is no help for somebody, who can't take any advice...
Load More Replies...The teen argument never makes sense to me because on one hand you're complaining about a type of worker that a large majority of the time isn't working 40 hours a week, so they're not getting a career out of it in that moment. Secondly, you don't want teens to make a livable wage, but you also don't want college to be free or at least dramatically cheaper because it's our fault for being victims to predatory loans. Thus, you want nothing to change, you want everything to stay as is, wherein people live in poverty in one of the richest countries in the world, and the college debt crisis continues because no one can outright afford it if they aren't at least somewhat wealthy. Yeah, remind me to never pick you to lead anything as you clearly have zero leaderships skills.
