Nothing. 2-3 dollars is great for small orders and nothing I said attacks that. However.. You shouldnt be having McDonald's delivered anyhow unless it's a huge catering style order. There are newbies or drivers who literally live a couple blocks from you who don't mind taking 3 bucks for 5 minutes of their time. I never do McDonald's orders anybow. Not after the last time in the hood where a dude who knew the customers name and exactly what he ordered took the bag and bolted before the real customer came out screaming and chased after the guy. It was hilarious. I didn't get blamed still got paid and even tried to hunt the guy down in my car, but screw that noise. I have another phone to pull up a 3d map for where I'm going and 80 % of the time mcd orders are for the hood.

Neither a server nor a McDonald's employee is driving food to your house in their own car, relying on their own car insurance, burning their own gas. You want to tip like you're at a restaurant, or you want to have a McDonald's employee hand it to you for free, then get off the couch, put on some clothes, and drive to a restaurant. If you don't want to do that, then you need to be prepared to pay someone else to do it for you, or wait until someone decides that whatever you bid is worth their time and effort. It's no different than hiring someone to mow your lawn. If you want to lowball and refuse to offer a competitive, attractive rate for the job, you better be prepared to watch the grass grow.

They are doing their job. They choose to do ones they get paid for. How are you going to tell people to work for free? If you're not tipping you're not getting the service plain and simple. You have a problem w that take it up w the corporation that's not paying their employees a living wage. Everyone needs to be paid for a service they provide. You are not special.

Gas money... I live in an area where only 10% of people tip and the base pay that I get from door dash goes back into the tank. And before you start yelling about getting a better job, I'm homeless and living out of my car, so this is the best I can do right now... And honestly, I know squatters that stand on the corner begging and make more than I do, but my pride won't let me do that...

How many times does it have to say that the drivers DO NOT WORK FOR DOORDASH for you to understand that THE DRIVERS DO NOT WORK FOR DOORDASH?

That's the great thing about a free market! If you don't think it's worth it, YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE SERVICE.

There is the 12 minute drive, but there is generally going to be travel time to the restaurant and sometimes a wait at the restaurant. Those two things are going to vary by where the driver started and whether the restaurant kept them waiting. I've seen drivers sit at restaurants for 15 minutes or more. They're told the order is ready and it isn't. I always put an extra tip on there when that happens.

And she shouldn't have taken that order at all, of the tip listed wasn't enough for her.

She didn't. That's the point.

That's the free market, though. She thinks her value is "x" and you think it is "y". You can either pay "x" or you can choose to not use her, just like she is free to not take the job for "y."

I think you’re missing the point, and trying to make your opinion more valid of free market free choice. These dashers are indeed subbies, they have made a contract with doordash for the payment of x delivery service. It isn’t the customers fault that these spoilt children want more than the contract they they signed. The point that they are hurting / bullying the customer into paying more money. You signed a contract from doordash to pay you x (didn’t include tips) that’s your own fault. If you didn’t like base pay then you shouldn’t of started working for low pay. Simple

Their contract explicitly includes the ability to only take the orders they want to. If you want the luxury of having someone bring food to your door, then pay for it. If not, go get it.

But the customer already did pay for it; in the large overhead added to the cost of the food, and the delivery charge. What is the delivery charge for if it isn't to pay for the delivery?

You haven’t read the contract, so stop speaking. DOORDASH’s online credit card software may permit consumers to add a gratuity to be paid to CONTRACTOR, and consumers can also pay a gratuity to CONTRACTOR in cash. (https://tinyurl.com/yc29kcyj) Go to section V you can see it’s wrote there. a sum of money paid to an employee at the end of a period of employment.(Dictionary)

Here's an idea, try hiring a roofer but tell him you're not going to pay him anything until after he brings the supplies to your house and does the work.

Argue all you want. The reality of the situation is that these platforms all include the option for drivers to take higher value gigs. If I'm willing to pay them more to deliver my food hot, then they'll take my gig. This is textbook capitalism.

So all the waiters and bartenders who agree to get paid well below minimum wage because their jobs are considered tipped shouldn't actually expect to get tipped either? What an incredibly naive position.

Spoiled children? How old are you? Nobody's bullying anybody, you're just missing the point that we don't have to do what you tell us because we are the boss. And if you want to talk about spoiled, what about all these entitled people that think they deserve us to bring their food for nothing? I love my job, I make damn good money doing it, and I'm 47 years old. So shove that spoiled children crap.

If you don't like the system, don't use the system. Nobody is stopping you from picking up your own food. Delivery is a service, period. If you don't want to pay for the service, don't use it.

Yes dasher or Uber eats delivery person gets paid for the order besides the tip but usually it's like $4 or $5. So you can clearly see if a dasher gets a request for $5 to go to a restaurant and wait for the order to be done, then drive how ever many miles it is all for the mere price of $5 it's not worth it. I'm a dasher and Uber eats driver and I reject 80% of requests because I don't have the time to do $3, $4 or $5 orders. I'd make less than minimum wage.

Then go get your own food.

Or go get another job. Imagine expecting to get tipped on a job you haven't even performed yet.

Why should we get another job if we love what we do? You aren't technically tipping us you are paying us for the convenience of bringing your food to you so you don't have to leave your house.

Imagine expecting people to jump through hoops for pennies.

I provide excellent service, on time, hot and fresh just to be stiffed about 90% of the time. I accept every order so my score doesn't drop and my account deactivated... I'm also homeless and living out of my car so this is the best I can do. My pride won't let me stand on a corner and beg, but I know people who do and they make way more money than I do. Every day I dash, I pray to get enough so I can get a room and sleep safely in a warm bed at night and have a hot shower, but I can barely afford to feed myself after keeping gas in the car, as well as routine maintenance. Now door dash is offering the pass so you won't have to pay delivery fees.. but that doesn't change the mindset of someone who is already stingy and won't tip. I can't tell you the amount of crap I've gone through for a 2.50$ order.

Skip the dishes makes you choose a percentage before the person has even decided to go pick up at that location. You can manually change it or put zero. Drivers shouldnt be seeing the tip at all until after they do their job. I tip the lowest because Im paying enough as it is and they always get it delivered fast and unlike other people who seem to forget they even ordered something and the guy waits 30 minutes, Im out there waiting for them so they barely get out of their car.

It's not tax evasion. Why do you think that they don't pay taxes on their tips? If you pay a tip through the app, that's tracked and they should be paying taxes on it. Of course, since they are not door dash employees, they're responsible for paying their own taxes, but that's exactly the same as for what door dash pays them for taking the delivery.

Do you understand what a delivery fee is for? And I'm not just talking doordash, I'm talking about your pizza delivery guy too. A delivery fee basically covers the gas it takes to get the food to you and get back to the restaurant. That's it.

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It's a free market. If you don't want to pay for hot food, someone else will. Easy peasy.

I live 10 min away from a lot of good restaurants, and sometimes I order food via Doordash. Always tip very nicely(15-20%)- and my food never arrives hot. So rhetorical question here, why tip or why tip a lot if I get the same result?

Go get it yourself and see if it's still hot when you get home. I carry an insulated bag to put orders in, and always communicate with the customer regarding their order, my ETA, etc... But there are still people who refuse to tip

Maybe go get it yourself, then.

The base pay from the app covers the gas it takes to get to the store and then bring it to you. I provide very good service, communicate with the customer and follow all directions but I still get stiffed constantly. I accept every order I can because I don't want my rating to be lowered and risk deactivation. Before you yell about getting a better job, I'm homeless and living out of my car and this is the best I can do right now... And I can barely feed myself every day, while delivering food I can't even afford.

Lynnie, no decline orders will not affect your rating and you cant be terminated for declining these abusive troglodyte’s

Why should someone take a bag of food to you for 2$ when every other order has a 10$ tip attached. Have you lost your mind? Who the hell takes a pay cut and she does not work for doordash she works for herself and gets paid by doordash but they do not own her time or her car. This is how the US is and until the toxic work environments stop free market is the only way for people to actually live and eat and not die and take care of their families. It boggles my mind that you think that anyone should take a pay cut bc youre too lazy to go pick up fast food in a drive through.

Actually she would be making less than minimum wage if she just relied on doordash or Uber eats pay which is like $5-$10 an hour

Not where I live

Why should she deliver your order for $3 when someone else will pay $5?

Because the customer paid a delivery fee already? What is the delivery fee for if not to pay for the delivery?

Why would they choose to take an order with no tip over one with a tip though? In free market, capitalistic America, wouldn't they be stupid to intentionally choose to get paid less? As a customer, you can choose to pay the last amount possible for your food, or you can choose to pay more to get your food more quickly/hotter. What do you value more? Entirely up to you!

But she does not work for doordash she does not get that delivery fee. They are lucky if they make minimum wage wo tips they wouldn't at all. Why demand people work for less than minimum wage bc you don't want to tip? Omg the entitlement is insane. Don't cheap out dude if you live in the US this is how it is. Workers are being exploited to the point of dying and you want people to work for 2$ an hour. Don't order from this service.

It pays the gas to get it to you and get back to the restaurant

Doesnt even cover gas back in dead zones! So when you go 8-10 miles, 30 mins in traffic each way? Plus wait time etc.

So?

You're being employed directly by the company. Stop pretending. Also it's impossible to deliver furniture and appliances 5 times per hour. That's a delivery every 12 minutes. Idiot.

"She isn't making money from tips"? Whaaaaaaaat?

Imagine expecting a plumber to come to your house and do the work for free

OK, change it to "variable compensation." (Or don't be such a nimrod that you get stuck on semantics.)

Let me put it this way to try to get through your thickness: an independent contractor who can only negotiate these work conditions would be better off as an employee. Because you guys clearly don't know how to sell your labour.

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thank you! :) I'm still learning

2.25 is what door dash pays. You gonna drive 15 miles for 2 dollars. Then 15 miles back 🤣. So they want us to pay to bring their food??

Doordash pays 3$ after you factor in gas that the drives pays for themselves yea your basically making nothing....moral of the story just tip your driver if you can't afford to maybe delivery food shouldn't be your top priority

Not enough for her time and gas and where and tear on her car. $2.50 is nothing for 30, 45 minutes of your time. That's why you pay to get your food

For the 50th time, she doesn't work for DoorDash.

YES SHE DOES, SHES AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. She had to sign a f*****g contract to be able to handle customers orders and be financially reimbursed for work carried out.

Calm down. Her contract explicitly includes the ability to decide which orders to deliver.

What don’t you understand about agreements ? She signed up for a company to be paid x amount. Gratuity isn’t guaranteed, it’s paid after end of contractual agreement. The contractual agreement is pickup and delivery. By just saying free market you are the problem. You can’t comprehend the fact that she like others is bullying CUSTOMERS to pay for something they have already been charged for. GRATUITY ISN’T GUARANTEED.

You keep saying this and it keeps being wrong. Her contract doesn't require her to make any delivery she doesn't want to make.

Then their food isn't guaranteed because dash does not pay enough to waste our gas in the wear and tear on our car without getting something else in return. Plain and simple tip or don't get your food