“A Cosmo In One Hand And Filet Mignon In Another”: Rude Karen Won’t Listen To Waiter’s Warning About Rain, Loses The Table For The Whole Group
Working in customer service comes with its own difficulties and challenges. Very often those who work in customer service learn more about people from the way they behave and can sometimes predict their next move. It becomes a subtle art to be able to accommodate a client and make them to come back to a certain restaurant or cafe. But this can only be achieved through learning and experience. One Reddit user @iamjayjayisme decided to share a story that happened to him while working as a waiter to show he was able to manage a rude client in a perfect way.
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Working in customer service comes with certain challenges but it teaches us to understand people better
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The narrator started the story by stating that some time ago, he worked in a restaurant where very often, some more “entitled” people would come in. The user also revealed that the restaurant had an outdoor dining area that had an amazing view of the ocean. So very often, people would choose to sit there. Of course, it is a great choice when the weather is nice, but one can never know when rain or a storm might come. Having this in mind, the restaurant workers were prepared for such situations by asking people to switch to indoor tables.
One Reddit user shared his experience with serving a group of entitled people who didn’t agree to switch their table
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The narrator continued the story by stating that he was serving a table outdoors that had 9 guests. These people turned out to be some of those customers who are very demanding and feel that their lack of manners can be replaced by spending the correct amount of money. The weather report showed that there would be rain that day, so having this in mind, the waiter tried to approach one of the guests and ask the whole group to switch tables by going indoors. Despite the fact that almost the whole restaurant was booked, the staff prepared them a table, knowing that any second, rain could come pouring.
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The narrator revealed that in the restaurant where he worked, very often people were asked to switch tables because of the upcoming rain
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At first, the waiter had a hard time catching the customer’s attention. He tried to explain the situation multiple times until she yelled at him that they would deal with the situation themselves. The waiter then realized that there was no reason to proceed with the request, so just took their orders and proceeded with moving other people back to the inside of the restaurant.
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Sometime after, the rain started to pour and all 9 guests took their drinks and went inside to look for a table. However, at this point, everything was fully booked, so they had nowhere to sit. And on top of that, their meals were ready to be served. The woman asked the waiter to find them some seats but none of them were available and this was when he reminded her that she said they would take care of it on their own.
The same thing happened the day the waiter was serving a group of 9 people
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The waiter came to one of the guests to ask her to move from outside to indoors because of upcoming rain
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The situation ended with someone from their group asking to wrap the food to take it out, and so they left the restaurant and their half-full drinks, still hungry, and left. A lot of people online were cracking up at this story, stating that no one should mess with a person that delivers food for you. Users were excited to see some rude and obnoxious people get what they deserve for the way they treat other people.
What do you think about this situation? Don’t forget to leave your thoughts and stories in the comments down below!
After multiple tries to get the woman’s attention, she yelled at him stating that they would deal with the situation themselves
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The narrator had nothing else to do but to take their orders and leave them where they were sitting
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As promised, soon the rain started and the group went back inside, ready to be seated at another table
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However, there were no available tables left, so the woman asked what they should do now and the waiter reminded her that it was their problem now
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The situation ended in the guests leaving the restaurant and taking their food with them
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Let's stop calling these situation's Karens. Call them for what they are; Aholes!
Karens are a specific niche group of a-holes, just like 'creeper' is - an apt description. If people really want to stop hearing the term, collective action to stop the behavior is what's needed.
Load More Replies...I don't like it because I have friends and relatives named Karen and I feel bad that their name has become a pejorative.
I'm Karen.. Doesn't bother me. D**k has lived with it for years as has John.
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so what? every language has certain names used in such way... but only americans whine about it like pussies
that is not true. in my language we just say jerk or cow or something similar. but then we have a beautiful list of pejoratives anyway so no need to missuse names 🤣🤷
In my opinion it's a useful term, but unfortunate that's it's only really used on women, and also unfortunate for all the people who's names are Karen.
It's only used for white women, it seems like. If this is cool, I take it it's okay to tell a story about some Shenequas? No? Okay, then.
He's making a point about why Karen is the catch all term for entitled women. Your comment proves their point that is better to use Karen for any bitchy entitled woman, rather than a name that is "race specific". The fact that it's mostly used to categorize white females is just a testament to how they happen to be more likely to exhibit such behavior... Trust me, I can tell thousands of "Karen" stories that span all of the races. I've met a lot of "Ken's" as well, the make counterpart to a Karen.
While you're right that a white woman is the most typical example of this entitlement, the term Karen actually originated from people of color to describe white women who weaponized their privilege against people of color, and it has since spread to include all forms of entitlement (though it still leans towards privilege having a role - there is an unbalanced power dynamic between most essential workers and customers based largely in the low wages and minimal job security in essential positions).
One again, grow up. If you look at YouTube channels which compile these videos you'll see people of all colours. Your use of the name Shenequa in this way shows you up for the disgusting Proud Boy incel that you are.
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Yes because they've been white. Black women r divas. Lol
From what I've seen & heard it's been used(including by me) for anyone of any race/color, etc.; the male version being Kyle or maybe Kevin. Also, I'm prejudiced against all pissant bitchweed assholes equally.
It is not only used for white women, it is used for anyone being a Karen, some white some not, male or female
It's also not like "karen" is the only name we use to tell stories like these. There is also "Chad", "Kyle", "Susan", "Janet", "Becky" etc. And as you have proven yourself, there is a stereotype against black people's names as well. So your comment just says more about you than anything
It's used for anyone who is specifically an asshole to service/retail industry workers. Since those tend to be rich older people... and white people are the ones with all the wealth... it just so happened that a lot of those people who were assholes to service/retail workers tended to be named Karen, a popular name among white boomers. Thus the name stuck because these people that kept making life hell for service/retail workers were repeatedly named Karen. It is not required that someone is white though for them to be a "Karen", just that they are an asshole to service workers/retail workers and exhibit a specific sense of entitlement.
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It's specifically for white women who harass Shenequas for no good reason. So the KAREN doesn't consider the humanity of her victim she just lumps ALL blacks together as not wanted in her vicinity. So KAREN is a clapback to a specific prejudiced behavior.
You sound like someone who is making an excuse for using a derogatory word. Are you? Maybe you did not think that far and thats okay too. Some people are followers and some are independent thinkers. I feel that a derogatory word means just that what it intended to be. In other words "You are such and such n that leads me to defend myself with calling you a such and such. They are nearly words used by someone that exhibited terrible behavior, by someone who exhibited terrible behavior????? Crazy when you think of it that way right.!
Nope. Karen is a normal name. And for all the thousands of Karens out there who are doing nothing wrong, but whose name isngetting ruined by people like you using it "for a specific niche group". We are not. We are actual people of all shapes, sizes and most of us are probably nice people (as most people are nice). So please stop using our name to refer to the aforementioned "niche group".
"It's not misogynistic just because it's negative and it specifically refers to women". Huh? There's no logic in that reply, lol.
Lisa, "misogynistic" is defined as a "hatred or mistrust of women," while it's possible to have a word that refers to a negative insult towards women specifically without encapsulating all women as its defining trait. A female-specific insult that is characterized by a trait which that woman possesses is not the same as an insult that is characterized solely by being a woman. Does that make sense (not asking that in a condescending manner - sincerely just trying to spell out the differential element)? Like A is always B, but B is not always A. A [an insult used against women because they're women] is always misogynistic, but B [an insult against women] is not always A [misogynistic]. The difference is whether or not the insult is used against those characterized by simply being a woman or whether it's an insult used against women based on a specific characteristic (beyond just their being female.)
To Aeon Flux, that's what I will agree on. Karen in itself is not misogynystic, it's the context that it's used in that makes it misogynistic or not. Calling someone a Karen because they are being an asshole to service/retail workers: not misogynistic. Calling someone a Karen just because they're a woman: misogynistic.
Yeah, sometimes it's just used as a weapon against "uppity" women. And all these people talking about "There are males terms too!" I have never seen an article on here calling out Kyles or Kevins or whatever the term is... There is "Chad" but that's an incel term that's caught on.
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Why? Karen is 50%. Chad makes up the other half. Equal representation.
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Well, it is racist. Everyone knows that a 'Karen' refers to a white woman. Does it now apply to people of African and Asian heritage too? I must have missed the memo...
there are plenty of vids of women of all races being called Karen. The fact that the majority of the ones everyone sees are white women just speaks to who is more guilty of that sort of behavior. And nobody is trying to oppress them because they're white ffs. They're not being oppressed at all or accused of stereotypical accusations that usually come with racism.
How do you propose stopping such behaviour? That's impossible. We cannot control other people's actions, only call them out on it.
Thank you for trying. I don't say things like Bitter Bob, Negative Nancy, Debbie Downer, etc. There is no excuse for using someone's name as a pejorative. I think it is lazy, sloppy thinking, writing, etc by people who can not come up with fresh & creative expressions. It's quite sad actually.
I agree. This woman was a Karen but more and more it is being used as a misogynistic term to include any woman that complains about anything. Some complaints are legitimate.
Let's never stop calling entitled women names that make them ashamed for being entitled women. Karen is so famous for a reason. And that reason is you, screaming sexism, Karen.
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We can stop about 10 years after white ppl stop calling all latina women maria, all black boys thugs, black women kiesha (etc) and stop using the n word. Until then this niche group of female assholes will be dawned Karen.
Change starts with you. But somehow I think you like the fight. So ask yourself, are you racist?
Bigoted by the continued oppression and lack of change yes but based on the definition and sociological aspect of the word black people can't be racist because we don't stand to benefit from it. And I love how white people always want black people to be the bigger person when white women are still to this day using their assumed innocents to tell lies that often end in life changes including death for minorities specifically black people.
How many white women do you know telling lies that result in life changes and death for blk people? 4? 5? All from social media. Now I ask you this.... How many white women are living in the USA? 1 billion? 2 billion? So yea I guess outta 2 billion white women in America you should judge and hate ALL of them because you saw 5 being assholes on the internet.
You can't argue with ignorant. She just literally said black people can't be racist. I am Hispanic, and have been called sooo many ridiculous racial slurs while at my job, I work in Healthcare. None of it was warranted at all. The law prohibits a lot of things, I and was never rude. While people of all races cursed and acted ridiculous, the only people who have ever called me racial slurs to my face were black people. You name it, spic, wet back, beaner, border jumper, and so many Taco Bell comments.
I'm old and have never heard anybody called anything but Karen. No Maria, no Keisha and a thug can be any guy. You're making this up.
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Zoe's Mom...you poor lady, your actual name is Karen isn't it? Lol
I'm partly on the side of the server here, but if it had been me, I would have made sure the entire party knew about the approaching storm. Just telling one person who you've assumed is the host is really not professional. When I was waiting tables, I usually moved on from the a**hole person & spoke with the rest of the group.
I wouldn't have. Yelling and cursing is a hard line for me. If I was at a table and overheard someone I was with speaking to staff like that, I wouldn't have ignored it, even if it was a friend of a friend.
Load More Replies...People 'judge' you by whom you associate with, and for good reason since when you fail to set an example by doing what is right,( not politically correct folks), or by speaking up then that action or inaction will cause others to believe you to be the same as the person you are with.
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I don't think this is a completely accurate story.. People with that kind of money don't behave that way in public 99%of the time
Naw. They all heard and saw their friend's interaction. They didn't step in, they didn't inquire, they didn't apologize. If any one of them had thought even "I'm not okay with that, I'm gonna go apologize to the server" they would have found out - they didn't even need to make it public, they could have taken the coward's way and not called out their friend. But they didn't even do that. They saw it and decided "That thing that just happened is 100% okay with me." They made their choice.
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That's why this is fake. Just because People have money don't assume that they are all rude and what allowed us to go on
Just because people have money don't assume they have class, manners or tact. I worked for an upscale retailer & a lot of those women totally deserve the title "rich bitch".
I’m not about to go to everyone at that table to relay a message when they heard her yell “we’ll fu”*#ing deal with it” why didn’t anyone inquire about what they would have to deal with? If that was someone in my group I would want to know lol what’s going on.
Mary Thompson, is this story about you? Because you are working overtime to convince people that the story is fake, and that wealthier white women don't behave like this. You are strangely invested in this.
Mary Thompson obviously has never been on the receiving end of this kind of behavior. If she's ever worked a day in retail, she's gotten incredibly lucky, because I worked 3 months total of non-high-end retail in my life and dealt with more than one of these types of people per month. Mary, you're not fooling anyone here. Please do everybody a favor and don't go out in public if this story is in fact about you (or similar enough to fit your behavior).
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Because it's fake this never happened anybody that believes it does has lost their mind
Be serious. Server wasn't whispering. Her yelling at him surely let her group know what was up. She was in control here n ignoring her control over the group would have been another problem. Don't turn this on the server w shudda cudda wudda. Karen's an asshole n got what she deserved.
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Maybe you should've cut a little realized this is not even a true story
I would have probably not. I truly believe that in a group everyone is responsible for everyone and I am pretty sure it was the same way here. Imo they are complicit bc they did note the yelling (at that point I would've asked my host what's wrong and gotten myself involved). They chose to ignore the situation/to ignore someone being treated wrongly by being yelled at.
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Good thing it's a fake story that never happened
Put that's too much logic. People wanna hear Karen got served not that the server was a karen
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Because it's an extremely fake story
Totally agree, it's best to act authoritatively and address the whole table. Also, in circumstances such as this where it's guaranteed to be unworkable for them to remain where they are, don't ask, tell: 'We are moving you inside.'
I would've tried telling someone once in a regular tone so whoever is around could hear not whispering or yelling. If she cussed I would've said ok & then walked away to let my manager know & have them handle it. Maybe if he/she went out to the patio & said "excuse me Im going to have to move u all inside or u cannot be served, they would've listened. She treated that server like trash & they did nothing wrong. It's just my opinion whether anyone agrees or not.
Nope. The server's responsibility is to talk to the person who made the reservation; the head of the party. The entire indoor area was almost booked. Servers don't have time to talk to 9 individuals. Also, after the woman screamed the other people should have taken note and asked what the problem was. The server was 100% professional. What's not professional is screaming at another human being. Seeing as the other members of the group suggesting paying and leaving instead of demanding a table as well makes it pretty clear the others overheard the conversation.
Correct, the server shouldn't have even started by telling just this lady. "Excuse me, everyone, may I please have you attention?"
I agree with Memere. She should have informed others at the table. Not all rich people are unreasonable when it comes to this sort of thing. Best to let a few know so they could have the option of moving in to the indoor table. Eventually Karen would have followed to avoid being ignored.
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Believe it or not rich people do not act this way around other rich people unless it's their own family in their own private homes. Nobody who has money wants to be seen as this type of person it's a fake story stopwatching love stop watching movies and believe me everything you see a on the big screen
I've worked a few upper crust establishments over the years and I never, NEVER proffered service to anyone who behaved as MELANIA did in this story. In at least half a dozen establishments wait staff were always told to expect patrons to be difficult BUT never to allow anyone to curse, belittle, touch inappropriately, or otherwise treat staff, other diners, or passersby abusively. Sure, rude happens but loudly cursing staff crosses the boundaries of reasonable behavior into abusive behavior and that's intolerable. Rarely did I ever see anything such as this happen but whenever a volatile situation arose we were instructed to immediately summon the manager and chef who then confronted the offender, cleared their tab and banned them from the establishment after taking their picture which was posted in the locker room and office. The receipt from the cleared tab copied and stapled to the picture for validation. Unruly guests and children of inattentive parents ruin others meals!
The fact that they didn't speak up regarding Karen behavior means they either agree with it, or don't care enough to correct it. So just as guilty. I would never stand by if someone at my table spoke like that to a worker.
Oh, hell no! You act like an a-hole then nothing out of the ordinary should be done for you. Listen up, people! Server does NOT mean SERVANT!!! Learn the difference or STAY HOME where people like you belong. I would probably not last a single day as a server because I will 100% treat the customer exactly how they treat me. People like that "Karen" are the #1 reason tipped wages should be eliminated. That will remove the false sense of empowerment pompous people think they have.
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I agree. Why did the server only tell one person the situation instead of letting the whole party know? It's almost like she wanted the whole party suffer because they live a different lifestyle than hers (notice how the OP can't stop talking about their luxuries and lifestyle.) A good server would have ignored the Karen and proceeded to another person in the group. This server took a single persons exchange and made 7 others suffer.
...and I'm led to believe that despite this shrieking harpy yelling her lungs loose that NOBODY in her party was aware of the exchange? Really? Of course they heard. Likely ALL heard and yet not one took it upon themselves to speak out and attempt to correct this situation. So much for BREEDING!!!!
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Especially when there's "two groups" in the group. They also interrupted the same person a couple times and then wonder why they got pissy, as well as a 20% mandatory tip?? What is with America and demanding tips instead of paying their workers properly???
He had to interrupt her because she wouldn't give him the courtesy of speaking so he could relay important information. She didn't get pissy, she got abusive. This isn't the only table the server had to take care of. It's unbelievable how subservient we are expected to be for $2 and with the efficiency of magicians no less.
The pay is the fault of the crap restaurant they work for, and there were PLENTY of other people at the table, but they CHOSE to focus on that one person, so yeah, they could easily have picked someone else.
You are entirely misinformed about the duties of a server. Predicting the weather and providing alternate accommodations to people who have the same ability to do so for themselves is above and beyond. And despite your belief that this person should also have divined the abuse they were about to receive, it doesn't make it ok. I hope I never have to serve you in any capacity. Server not servent.
It depends on the state whether the server was getting under minimum wage. In *all* of the west coast states, for example, servers are required to be paid minimum wage and all of these states have a much higher minimum wages than the federal wage. To put this in perspective, Portland, OR has a higher minimum wage than London, England (Portland minimum wage is $14US compared to ~$13.06US in London as of October 2021). This woman was a jerk, though, regardless of how much the server was getting paid. No one should have to put up with this abuse.
I vote we use the name Melania for over the top rude women and Donald for asshat men.
Dickish comment. Why not just call all Karen's Mark?
Load More Replies...Nah...not as funny or realistic as assclown Donnie and his wife, what's her name. I already forgot! You know the one that destroyed the decor in the White House, plagiarizes for fun, and played a lead role in the Handmade's Tale.
Touche (!), but why refer to these type of people by someone's name, since more than a few are going to be hurt and shamed because of that use of their name. Rude or insensitive woman is more descriptive and there are a lot more adjectives in the English language that can be used instead of someone's name.
I concur. If they were still in office USA wouldn't be a laughing stock to every other country. This dhitshow we live in would have never happened. The irony. The people in charge of our country right now are entitled aholes. You should thank the Trumps not bash them.
Right, because Donald was a confused old man, unlike Joe Biden who is sharp as a whip!
Definitely Mark, it just makes sense. They tend to be illogical in addition to dull witted.
LOL,🤣💨 I LOVE YOUR RESPONSE TO THE ASSHAT THAT Decided THIS TOPIC HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH POLITICS AND THAT PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY BE INTERESTED IN HIS OR HER MENTAL MASTERBATION ON THE SUBJECT!!!! Touche Joe!!
I agree. I've already begun implementation of your clever and quite fitting idea. But I promise not to take your due credit!
Nice comments Mark, you can say that again, I will be glad to take you out for a drink, do you mind if we become friends, your comments got my attention, and I will be glad to have a new friend here, how can we connect, let have fan together lol.
Coming from a guy who’s name is chick.who’s more entitled than hunter.
You are an ASSHOLE!!!! Mark is now what I will start saying it's not a Karen it's a Mark whether it be male or female they are a Mark. And will make a post about it also....
Give me a break. They did a better job then the current ass in office now. He's running the country into the ground. How do you like the gas prices. Smarty pants.
Yeah real nice job still talking about crowd sizes of 2016& 2020. Still waiting for the Democratic covid hoax to be gone by next week with bleach infections. Oops my bad he takes no responsibility for anything ever. No wonder he lost the popular vote not once but twice!
Please tell me one.. just one good thing Biden has done? Oh right. Use US dollars to build a fence around his home. The border? If you're OK with women and children being raped by the cartels that have Biden by the balls.. 85 million BRAND new equipment surrendered in Afghanistan. Even better. LET'S GO BRANDON! lowest ratings EVER. Highest inflation in 40 years. Yep. Thank God for Joe
Ms. Beard, this situation goes so far back that when I was an officer in Southern California during the 60's and 70's that hardly a week passed where I did not hear of a young woman disappearing South of the borders of Texas or California, and stills happens today. The government of Mexico is to blame, but at the same time until the Cartels and their families are put out of business they will continue to stay in business.
Gas price issues has to do with things NOT related to the President, miss dumb drawers. Have you heard of what's going on with the supply chain? Certainly you have felt the impact of delayed goods. Products and supplies coming into the US screeched to a halt due to Covid, and part of this was the production of automobiles. Then, car sales skyrocketed, which means what?? People are now buying lots of gas, so what happens? Prices soar because gas is back in high demand. The President is out of the equation, but YOU and me and everyone we know that drive and buy gas create this problem. Don't blame problems on the President when you don't understand what you are talking about. Do your homework instead of listening to the rhetoric. You look dumb.
The last time gas was high oh yeah osama and the fake Catholic.and Afghanistan let me guess trumps fault.dems are so fos.excuses,excuses.
You think it's Bidens fault about the gas prices? That's real easy to say but unfortunately for you ,not right. Maybe you should research a bit before spewing wrong information.
100% correct. The president has nothing to do with gas prices...supply and demand. For the ding bats who say he does, 1/you are misinformed by basing your opinions on like-minded misinformed people 2/you haven't done your research using reliable resources 3/you don't have a basic understanding of economics 4/you are lazy. You take the easy way out, which is to blame the president for anything you disagree with or don't like. Boo hoo
It's definitely Biden. Get real. Remember the pipeline he refused to finish to make us 100% independent... many people lost their jobs and now we are stuck with it. You need to get real and stop getting your news from crap news network...
Yes and that pipeline was to go through the Lakota land and contaminate the water. Hasn't this country taken enough from these people? You STILL want to plunder their land for some jobs and then in a few years when the resources are all depleted where tf do you think the jobs will be? Then you'll find yet ANOTHER pristine and protected place to ravage and destroy for the sake of jobs. It will never end and guess what? When all the resources are used up and spent there STILL will be no jobs. Use other energy. Stop raping the land. Biden was absolutely CORRECT.
100% Energy Independence = NOT Having To ‘Deal With’ Other Countries/People Who Hate Us + Many MANY Other Reasons I’m Not Getting Into Right Now On Here (approve Russia’s tho... yah, that makes a whooole LOT of sense, especially in the name of “climate change” LMFAO)... Pssstt, PLEASE.
Wrong. Melanie Trump is a Lady and does not deserve any other term. Donald Trump is a gentleman and please leave your nasty comments about them at home! Thank you.
Well that went political quick.. and not even relatable to the article you must love the 40year high inflation rate from Bidenbuildbackbroke
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I'd personally go with Jill and Joe, but to each their own, I suppose.
Really? If you seriously think the bidens would ever behave like this, you are obviously deluded. Whereas we know that Donald does. We've seen him. Shame you people don't just grow up. Or just stfu.
Not really. At least Biden knows how to wipe his asshole without trailing shitty toilet paper around glued to his shoes. Image what a good look it is for the president of the united states' to be trailing shitty ass paper up to air force one. The day Biden does that is the day I say he's ready for the nursing home.
While I understand where your comment arose, I have been told that 45 is extremely polite and courteous despite our inclinations to believe otherwise, at least whenever he dines out. On the other hand, I have also heard from sources I trust that Melanoma is quite rude to staff, won't be served by fat people, Hispanic/Latinas/ Latinos and basically All women. She also had a habit at least for a time, of spitting her just chewed food into her napkin. I'm told that among other things, that this is a habit of people with eating disorders. I hope she chokes.
“I’ve heard” and “I’m told” is where we all go wrong, myself included.
It's funny how Biden can be a SATANIC PEDOPHILE, but God forbid Melania have an eating disorder. (No comment on your other "observations" of Melania)
Oopsydaisy you must be wandering around with your head up your ass, and believing whatever anyone tells you.
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You're right, Biden doesn't even remember what the day of the week it is😹
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Joe hasn't accomplished a single thing during his time in any government office. One year in, inflation is higher than its been in years, grocery stores across the country are empty shelves, crime rates are up, drug use is up. Do you even do your own research or just get all of your opinions from the media? The man can barely even form a single coherent sentence. You're actually proud of voting for that? Shame on you.
it still amazes me how you Trump groupies bring speech into the argument. Like there isn't footage of that orange bastard struggling not to sound like a drunk toddler telling a story.
Trump needs a sippy cup. He can't even drink out of a glass. He needs two hands.
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Hey Luis. There is plenty of footage of Biden which proves he has a hair fetish and he REALLY enjoys touching little girls. But, that's acceptable I guess because the media likes Biden. Time to think for yourself.
Biden is an affectionate grandfatherly type and in your twisted mind you turn that into something dirty. He's the same with everyone. Biden has never had any woman come out accuse him of rape when she was 13 years old. Biden never hung out with Epstein. Trump did. He was accused of raping a 13 year old child at his best friends Epstein's party pedophile party. But of course you have nothing to say about these FACTS. Yet you fabricate stuff against Biden.
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It still amazes me how utterly blind the left is towards what's going on in this country, and who's truly responsible for it. Oh well. Y'all will see sooner or later...all truth comes out in the end.
That won't work because Joe already has two meanings: 1) A soldier - G.I. Joe, My/Your/Our Joe (referring to any military man). 2) Men in general - Average Joe, Working Joe, Joe Taxpayer, Joe Shmo.
I like it! Its simple... Like d**k and jane! And spot! 😂 i miss the good ole days... 😉
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Jill and Joe works for me, but I see how some folks might get offended.
Let's stop calling these situation's Karens. Call them for what they are; Aholes!
Karens are a specific niche group of a-holes, just like 'creeper' is - an apt description. If people really want to stop hearing the term, collective action to stop the behavior is what's needed.
Load More Replies...I don't like it because I have friends and relatives named Karen and I feel bad that their name has become a pejorative.
I'm Karen.. Doesn't bother me. D**k has lived with it for years as has John.
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so what? every language has certain names used in such way... but only americans whine about it like pussies
that is not true. in my language we just say jerk or cow or something similar. but then we have a beautiful list of pejoratives anyway so no need to missuse names 🤣🤷
In my opinion it's a useful term, but unfortunate that's it's only really used on women, and also unfortunate for all the people who's names are Karen.
It's only used for white women, it seems like. If this is cool, I take it it's okay to tell a story about some Shenequas? No? Okay, then.
He's making a point about why Karen is the catch all term for entitled women. Your comment proves their point that is better to use Karen for any bitchy entitled woman, rather than a name that is "race specific". The fact that it's mostly used to categorize white females is just a testament to how they happen to be more likely to exhibit such behavior... Trust me, I can tell thousands of "Karen" stories that span all of the races. I've met a lot of "Ken's" as well, the make counterpart to a Karen.
While you're right that a white woman is the most typical example of this entitlement, the term Karen actually originated from people of color to describe white women who weaponized their privilege against people of color, and it has since spread to include all forms of entitlement (though it still leans towards privilege having a role - there is an unbalanced power dynamic between most essential workers and customers based largely in the low wages and minimal job security in essential positions).
One again, grow up. If you look at YouTube channels which compile these videos you'll see people of all colours. Your use of the name Shenequa in this way shows you up for the disgusting Proud Boy incel that you are.
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Yes because they've been white. Black women r divas. Lol
From what I've seen & heard it's been used(including by me) for anyone of any race/color, etc.; the male version being Kyle or maybe Kevin. Also, I'm prejudiced against all pissant bitchweed assholes equally.
It is not only used for white women, it is used for anyone being a Karen, some white some not, male or female
It's also not like "karen" is the only name we use to tell stories like these. There is also "Chad", "Kyle", "Susan", "Janet", "Becky" etc. And as you have proven yourself, there is a stereotype against black people's names as well. So your comment just says more about you than anything
It's used for anyone who is specifically an asshole to service/retail industry workers. Since those tend to be rich older people... and white people are the ones with all the wealth... it just so happened that a lot of those people who were assholes to service/retail workers tended to be named Karen, a popular name among white boomers. Thus the name stuck because these people that kept making life hell for service/retail workers were repeatedly named Karen. It is not required that someone is white though for them to be a "Karen", just that they are an asshole to service workers/retail workers and exhibit a specific sense of entitlement.
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It's specifically for white women who harass Shenequas for no good reason. So the KAREN doesn't consider the humanity of her victim she just lumps ALL blacks together as not wanted in her vicinity. So KAREN is a clapback to a specific prejudiced behavior.
You sound like someone who is making an excuse for using a derogatory word. Are you? Maybe you did not think that far and thats okay too. Some people are followers and some are independent thinkers. I feel that a derogatory word means just that what it intended to be. In other words "You are such and such n that leads me to defend myself with calling you a such and such. They are nearly words used by someone that exhibited terrible behavior, by someone who exhibited terrible behavior????? Crazy when you think of it that way right.!
Nope. Karen is a normal name. And for all the thousands of Karens out there who are doing nothing wrong, but whose name isngetting ruined by people like you using it "for a specific niche group". We are not. We are actual people of all shapes, sizes and most of us are probably nice people (as most people are nice). So please stop using our name to refer to the aforementioned "niche group".
"It's not misogynistic just because it's negative and it specifically refers to women". Huh? There's no logic in that reply, lol.
Lisa, "misogynistic" is defined as a "hatred or mistrust of women," while it's possible to have a word that refers to a negative insult towards women specifically without encapsulating all women as its defining trait. A female-specific insult that is characterized by a trait which that woman possesses is not the same as an insult that is characterized solely by being a woman. Does that make sense (not asking that in a condescending manner - sincerely just trying to spell out the differential element)? Like A is always B, but B is not always A. A [an insult used against women because they're women] is always misogynistic, but B [an insult against women] is not always A [misogynistic]. The difference is whether or not the insult is used against those characterized by simply being a woman or whether it's an insult used against women based on a specific characteristic (beyond just their being female.)
To Aeon Flux, that's what I will agree on. Karen in itself is not misogynystic, it's the context that it's used in that makes it misogynistic or not. Calling someone a Karen because they are being an asshole to service/retail workers: not misogynistic. Calling someone a Karen just because they're a woman: misogynistic.
Yeah, sometimes it's just used as a weapon against "uppity" women. And all these people talking about "There are males terms too!" I have never seen an article on here calling out Kyles or Kevins or whatever the term is... There is "Chad" but that's an incel term that's caught on.
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Why? Karen is 50%. Chad makes up the other half. Equal representation.
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Well, it is racist. Everyone knows that a 'Karen' refers to a white woman. Does it now apply to people of African and Asian heritage too? I must have missed the memo...
there are plenty of vids of women of all races being called Karen. The fact that the majority of the ones everyone sees are white women just speaks to who is more guilty of that sort of behavior. And nobody is trying to oppress them because they're white ffs. They're not being oppressed at all or accused of stereotypical accusations that usually come with racism.
How do you propose stopping such behaviour? That's impossible. We cannot control other people's actions, only call them out on it.
Thank you for trying. I don't say things like Bitter Bob, Negative Nancy, Debbie Downer, etc. There is no excuse for using someone's name as a pejorative. I think it is lazy, sloppy thinking, writing, etc by people who can not come up with fresh & creative expressions. It's quite sad actually.
I agree. This woman was a Karen but more and more it is being used as a misogynistic term to include any woman that complains about anything. Some complaints are legitimate.
Let's never stop calling entitled women names that make them ashamed for being entitled women. Karen is so famous for a reason. And that reason is you, screaming sexism, Karen.
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We can stop about 10 years after white ppl stop calling all latina women maria, all black boys thugs, black women kiesha (etc) and stop using the n word. Until then this niche group of female assholes will be dawned Karen.
Change starts with you. But somehow I think you like the fight. So ask yourself, are you racist?
Bigoted by the continued oppression and lack of change yes but based on the definition and sociological aspect of the word black people can't be racist because we don't stand to benefit from it. And I love how white people always want black people to be the bigger person when white women are still to this day using their assumed innocents to tell lies that often end in life changes including death for minorities specifically black people.
How many white women do you know telling lies that result in life changes and death for blk people? 4? 5? All from social media. Now I ask you this.... How many white women are living in the USA? 1 billion? 2 billion? So yea I guess outta 2 billion white women in America you should judge and hate ALL of them because you saw 5 being assholes on the internet.
You can't argue with ignorant. She just literally said black people can't be racist. I am Hispanic, and have been called sooo many ridiculous racial slurs while at my job, I work in Healthcare. None of it was warranted at all. The law prohibits a lot of things, I and was never rude. While people of all races cursed and acted ridiculous, the only people who have ever called me racial slurs to my face were black people. You name it, spic, wet back, beaner, border jumper, and so many Taco Bell comments.
I'm old and have never heard anybody called anything but Karen. No Maria, no Keisha and a thug can be any guy. You're making this up.
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Zoe's Mom...you poor lady, your actual name is Karen isn't it? Lol
I'm partly on the side of the server here, but if it had been me, I would have made sure the entire party knew about the approaching storm. Just telling one person who you've assumed is the host is really not professional. When I was waiting tables, I usually moved on from the a**hole person & spoke with the rest of the group.
I wouldn't have. Yelling and cursing is a hard line for me. If I was at a table and overheard someone I was with speaking to staff like that, I wouldn't have ignored it, even if it was a friend of a friend.
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I don't think this is a completely accurate story.. People with that kind of money don't behave that way in public 99%of the time
Naw. They all heard and saw their friend's interaction. They didn't step in, they didn't inquire, they didn't apologize. If any one of them had thought even "I'm not okay with that, I'm gonna go apologize to the server" they would have found out - they didn't even need to make it public, they could have taken the coward's way and not called out their friend. But they didn't even do that. They saw it and decided "That thing that just happened is 100% okay with me." They made their choice.
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That's why this is fake. Just because People have money don't assume that they are all rude and what allowed us to go on
Just because people have money don't assume they have class, manners or tact. I worked for an upscale retailer & a lot of those women totally deserve the title "rich bitch".
I’m not about to go to everyone at that table to relay a message when they heard her yell “we’ll fu”*#ing deal with it” why didn’t anyone inquire about what they would have to deal with? If that was someone in my group I would want to know lol what’s going on.
Mary Thompson, is this story about you? Because you are working overtime to convince people that the story is fake, and that wealthier white women don't behave like this. You are strangely invested in this.
Mary Thompson obviously has never been on the receiving end of this kind of behavior. If she's ever worked a day in retail, she's gotten incredibly lucky, because I worked 3 months total of non-high-end retail in my life and dealt with more than one of these types of people per month. Mary, you're not fooling anyone here. Please do everybody a favor and don't go out in public if this story is in fact about you (or similar enough to fit your behavior).
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Because it's fake this never happened anybody that believes it does has lost their mind
Be serious. Server wasn't whispering. Her yelling at him surely let her group know what was up. She was in control here n ignoring her control over the group would have been another problem. Don't turn this on the server w shudda cudda wudda. Karen's an asshole n got what she deserved.
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Maybe you should've cut a little realized this is not even a true story
I would have probably not. I truly believe that in a group everyone is responsible for everyone and I am pretty sure it was the same way here. Imo they are complicit bc they did note the yelling (at that point I would've asked my host what's wrong and gotten myself involved). They chose to ignore the situation/to ignore someone being treated wrongly by being yelled at.
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Good thing it's a fake story that never happened
Put that's too much logic. People wanna hear Karen got served not that the server was a karen
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Because it's an extremely fake story
Totally agree, it's best to act authoritatively and address the whole table. Also, in circumstances such as this where it's guaranteed to be unworkable for them to remain where they are, don't ask, tell: 'We are moving you inside.'
I would've tried telling someone once in a regular tone so whoever is around could hear not whispering or yelling. If she cussed I would've said ok & then walked away to let my manager know & have them handle it. Maybe if he/she went out to the patio & said "excuse me Im going to have to move u all inside or u cannot be served, they would've listened. She treated that server like trash & they did nothing wrong. It's just my opinion whether anyone agrees or not.
Nope. The server's responsibility is to talk to the person who made the reservation; the head of the party. The entire indoor area was almost booked. Servers don't have time to talk to 9 individuals. Also, after the woman screamed the other people should have taken note and asked what the problem was. The server was 100% professional. What's not professional is screaming at another human being. Seeing as the other members of the group suggesting paying and leaving instead of demanding a table as well makes it pretty clear the others overheard the conversation.
Correct, the server shouldn't have even started by telling just this lady. "Excuse me, everyone, may I please have you attention?"
I agree with Memere. She should have informed others at the table. Not all rich people are unreasonable when it comes to this sort of thing. Best to let a few know so they could have the option of moving in to the indoor table. Eventually Karen would have followed to avoid being ignored.
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Believe it or not rich people do not act this way around other rich people unless it's their own family in their own private homes. Nobody who has money wants to be seen as this type of person it's a fake story stopwatching love stop watching movies and believe me everything you see a on the big screen
I've worked a few upper crust establishments over the years and I never, NEVER proffered service to anyone who behaved as MELANIA did in this story. In at least half a dozen establishments wait staff were always told to expect patrons to be difficult BUT never to allow anyone to curse, belittle, touch inappropriately, or otherwise treat staff, other diners, or passersby abusively. Sure, rude happens but loudly cursing staff crosses the boundaries of reasonable behavior into abusive behavior and that's intolerable. Rarely did I ever see anything such as this happen but whenever a volatile situation arose we were instructed to immediately summon the manager and chef who then confronted the offender, cleared their tab and banned them from the establishment after taking their picture which was posted in the locker room and office. The receipt from the cleared tab copied and stapled to the picture for validation. Unruly guests and children of inattentive parents ruin others meals!
The fact that they didn't speak up regarding Karen behavior means they either agree with it, or don't care enough to correct it. So just as guilty. I would never stand by if someone at my table spoke like that to a worker.
Oh, hell no! You act like an a-hole then nothing out of the ordinary should be done for you. Listen up, people! Server does NOT mean SERVANT!!! Learn the difference or STAY HOME where people like you belong. I would probably not last a single day as a server because I will 100% treat the customer exactly how they treat me. People like that "Karen" are the #1 reason tipped wages should be eliminated. That will remove the false sense of empowerment pompous people think they have.
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I agree. Why did the server only tell one person the situation instead of letting the whole party know? It's almost like she wanted the whole party suffer because they live a different lifestyle than hers (notice how the OP can't stop talking about their luxuries and lifestyle.) A good server would have ignored the Karen and proceeded to another person in the group. This server took a single persons exchange and made 7 others suffer.
...and I'm led to believe that despite this shrieking harpy yelling her lungs loose that NOBODY in her party was aware of the exchange? Really? Of course they heard. Likely ALL heard and yet not one took it upon themselves to speak out and attempt to correct this situation. So much for BREEDING!!!!
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Especially when there's "two groups" in the group. They also interrupted the same person a couple times and then wonder why they got pissy, as well as a 20% mandatory tip?? What is with America and demanding tips instead of paying their workers properly???
He had to interrupt her because she wouldn't give him the courtesy of speaking so he could relay important information. She didn't get pissy, she got abusive. This isn't the only table the server had to take care of. It's unbelievable how subservient we are expected to be for $2 and with the efficiency of magicians no less.
The pay is the fault of the crap restaurant they work for, and there were PLENTY of other people at the table, but they CHOSE to focus on that one person, so yeah, they could easily have picked someone else.
You are entirely misinformed about the duties of a server. Predicting the weather and providing alternate accommodations to people who have the same ability to do so for themselves is above and beyond. And despite your belief that this person should also have divined the abuse they were about to receive, it doesn't make it ok. I hope I never have to serve you in any capacity. Server not servent.
It depends on the state whether the server was getting under minimum wage. In *all* of the west coast states, for example, servers are required to be paid minimum wage and all of these states have a much higher minimum wages than the federal wage. To put this in perspective, Portland, OR has a higher minimum wage than London, England (Portland minimum wage is $14US compared to ~$13.06US in London as of October 2021). This woman was a jerk, though, regardless of how much the server was getting paid. No one should have to put up with this abuse.
I vote we use the name Melania for over the top rude women and Donald for asshat men.
Dickish comment. Why not just call all Karen's Mark?
Load More Replies...Nah...not as funny or realistic as assclown Donnie and his wife, what's her name. I already forgot! You know the one that destroyed the decor in the White House, plagiarizes for fun, and played a lead role in the Handmade's Tale.
Touche (!), but why refer to these type of people by someone's name, since more than a few are going to be hurt and shamed because of that use of their name. Rude or insensitive woman is more descriptive and there are a lot more adjectives in the English language that can be used instead of someone's name.
I concur. If they were still in office USA wouldn't be a laughing stock to every other country. This dhitshow we live in would have never happened. The irony. The people in charge of our country right now are entitled aholes. You should thank the Trumps not bash them.
Right, because Donald was a confused old man, unlike Joe Biden who is sharp as a whip!
Definitely Mark, it just makes sense. They tend to be illogical in addition to dull witted.
LOL,🤣💨 I LOVE YOUR RESPONSE TO THE ASSHAT THAT Decided THIS TOPIC HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH POLITICS AND THAT PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY BE INTERESTED IN HIS OR HER MENTAL MASTERBATION ON THE SUBJECT!!!! Touche Joe!!
I agree. I've already begun implementation of your clever and quite fitting idea. But I promise not to take your due credit!
Nice comments Mark, you can say that again, I will be glad to take you out for a drink, do you mind if we become friends, your comments got my attention, and I will be glad to have a new friend here, how can we connect, let have fan together lol.
Coming from a guy who’s name is chick.who’s more entitled than hunter.
You are an ASSHOLE!!!! Mark is now what I will start saying it's not a Karen it's a Mark whether it be male or female they are a Mark. And will make a post about it also....
Give me a break. They did a better job then the current ass in office now. He's running the country into the ground. How do you like the gas prices. Smarty pants.
Yeah real nice job still talking about crowd sizes of 2016& 2020. Still waiting for the Democratic covid hoax to be gone by next week with bleach infections. Oops my bad he takes no responsibility for anything ever. No wonder he lost the popular vote not once but twice!
Please tell me one.. just one good thing Biden has done? Oh right. Use US dollars to build a fence around his home. The border? If you're OK with women and children being raped by the cartels that have Biden by the balls.. 85 million BRAND new equipment surrendered in Afghanistan. Even better. LET'S GO BRANDON! lowest ratings EVER. Highest inflation in 40 years. Yep. Thank God for Joe
Ms. Beard, this situation goes so far back that when I was an officer in Southern California during the 60's and 70's that hardly a week passed where I did not hear of a young woman disappearing South of the borders of Texas or California, and stills happens today. The government of Mexico is to blame, but at the same time until the Cartels and their families are put out of business they will continue to stay in business.
Gas price issues has to do with things NOT related to the President, miss dumb drawers. Have you heard of what's going on with the supply chain? Certainly you have felt the impact of delayed goods. Products and supplies coming into the US screeched to a halt due to Covid, and part of this was the production of automobiles. Then, car sales skyrocketed, which means what?? People are now buying lots of gas, so what happens? Prices soar because gas is back in high demand. The President is out of the equation, but YOU and me and everyone we know that drive and buy gas create this problem. Don't blame problems on the President when you don't understand what you are talking about. Do your homework instead of listening to the rhetoric. You look dumb.
The last time gas was high oh yeah osama and the fake Catholic.and Afghanistan let me guess trumps fault.dems are so fos.excuses,excuses.
You think it's Bidens fault about the gas prices? That's real easy to say but unfortunately for you ,not right. Maybe you should research a bit before spewing wrong information.
100% correct. The president has nothing to do with gas prices...supply and demand. For the ding bats who say he does, 1/you are misinformed by basing your opinions on like-minded misinformed people 2/you haven't done your research using reliable resources 3/you don't have a basic understanding of economics 4/you are lazy. You take the easy way out, which is to blame the president for anything you disagree with or don't like. Boo hoo
It's definitely Biden. Get real. Remember the pipeline he refused to finish to make us 100% independent... many people lost their jobs and now we are stuck with it. You need to get real and stop getting your news from crap news network...
Yes and that pipeline was to go through the Lakota land and contaminate the water. Hasn't this country taken enough from these people? You STILL want to plunder their land for some jobs and then in a few years when the resources are all depleted where tf do you think the jobs will be? Then you'll find yet ANOTHER pristine and protected place to ravage and destroy for the sake of jobs. It will never end and guess what? When all the resources are used up and spent there STILL will be no jobs. Use other energy. Stop raping the land. Biden was absolutely CORRECT.
100% Energy Independence = NOT Having To ‘Deal With’ Other Countries/People Who Hate Us + Many MANY Other Reasons I’m Not Getting Into Right Now On Here (approve Russia’s tho... yah, that makes a whooole LOT of sense, especially in the name of “climate change” LMFAO)... Pssstt, PLEASE.
Wrong. Melanie Trump is a Lady and does not deserve any other term. Donald Trump is a gentleman and please leave your nasty comments about them at home! Thank you.
Well that went political quick.. and not even relatable to the article you must love the 40year high inflation rate from Bidenbuildbackbroke
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I'd personally go with Jill and Joe, but to each their own, I suppose.
Really? If you seriously think the bidens would ever behave like this, you are obviously deluded. Whereas we know that Donald does. We've seen him. Shame you people don't just grow up. Or just stfu.
Not really. At least Biden knows how to wipe his asshole without trailing shitty toilet paper around glued to his shoes. Image what a good look it is for the president of the united states' to be trailing shitty ass paper up to air force one. The day Biden does that is the day I say he's ready for the nursing home.
While I understand where your comment arose, I have been told that 45 is extremely polite and courteous despite our inclinations to believe otherwise, at least whenever he dines out. On the other hand, I have also heard from sources I trust that Melanoma is quite rude to staff, won't be served by fat people, Hispanic/Latinas/ Latinos and basically All women. She also had a habit at least for a time, of spitting her just chewed food into her napkin. I'm told that among other things, that this is a habit of people with eating disorders. I hope she chokes.
“I’ve heard” and “I’m told” is where we all go wrong, myself included.
It's funny how Biden can be a SATANIC PEDOPHILE, but God forbid Melania have an eating disorder. (No comment on your other "observations" of Melania)
Oopsydaisy you must be wandering around with your head up your ass, and believing whatever anyone tells you.
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You're right, Biden doesn't even remember what the day of the week it is😹
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Joe hasn't accomplished a single thing during his time in any government office. One year in, inflation is higher than its been in years, grocery stores across the country are empty shelves, crime rates are up, drug use is up. Do you even do your own research or just get all of your opinions from the media? The man can barely even form a single coherent sentence. You're actually proud of voting for that? Shame on you.
it still amazes me how you Trump groupies bring speech into the argument. Like there isn't footage of that orange bastard struggling not to sound like a drunk toddler telling a story.
Trump needs a sippy cup. He can't even drink out of a glass. He needs two hands.
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Hey Luis. There is plenty of footage of Biden which proves he has a hair fetish and he REALLY enjoys touching little girls. But, that's acceptable I guess because the media likes Biden. Time to think for yourself.
Biden is an affectionate grandfatherly type and in your twisted mind you turn that into something dirty. He's the same with everyone. Biden has never had any woman come out accuse him of rape when she was 13 years old. Biden never hung out with Epstein. Trump did. He was accused of raping a 13 year old child at his best friends Epstein's party pedophile party. But of course you have nothing to say about these FACTS. Yet you fabricate stuff against Biden.
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It still amazes me how utterly blind the left is towards what's going on in this country, and who's truly responsible for it. Oh well. Y'all will see sooner or later...all truth comes out in the end.
That won't work because Joe already has two meanings: 1) A soldier - G.I. Joe, My/Your/Our Joe (referring to any military man). 2) Men in general - Average Joe, Working Joe, Joe Taxpayer, Joe Shmo.
I like it! Its simple... Like d**k and jane! And spot! 😂 i miss the good ole days... 😉
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Jill and Joe works for me, but I see how some folks might get offended.
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