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Woman Asks If She’d Be Wrong Not To Attend A Baby Shower If There’s No Proof Of Baby’s Existence
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Woman Asks If She’d Be Wrong Not To Attend A Baby Shower If There’s No Proof Of Baby’s Existence

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Baby showers are one of the most popular occasions that Americans attend. In fact, 65% say they’ve been to a baby shower at least once, and 22% have been to one in the past year. This person isn’t sure if she wants to go to a baby shower, because the mother might only have a concept of a baby.

Recently, a woman shared a story about her BF’s brother’s girlfriend who invited them to her baby shower. But she’s not really keen to go; first, she might be lying about being pregnant. Second, they aren’t the best of friends. And third, the supposed mama-to-be has had a violent streak with animals.

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    A woman received an invitation to a baby shower, but isn’t sure whether to accept because she doesn’t believe there is even a baby on the way

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    What’s more, the supposed mother is terrible to her dogs and not a nice person in general

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    Instead of attending a baby shower, guests can opt for pitching in for a group gift with someone else

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    A baby shower isn’t the only occasion for which it’s difficult to think of a present. But when you’re not friendly with the mom-to-be, this can complicate things further. Nowadays, many moms have registries for their baby showers that make it easier for guests not to get lost in the maze of presents. This seems to be the case in this story as well.

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    The invited guests are not obligated to attend the party if they can’t or don’t want to, but they should at least send a little gift or a treat. According to the experts at Newton Baby, that can be an alternative to going to the party. But again, most people who get invited to baby showers are relatives and close friends, so, they most likely meet the baby in person later anyway.

    However, coming without a gift is a big no-no. The good news is that you don’t have to buy something from the registry only; you’re free to get something that you think is special. Another option is to buy something as a group, in this case, as a family, perhaps.

    A group purchase can cover something more expensive from the registry, like a stroller, a crib, or a rocking chair. If the OP and her boyfriend don’t want to cause too much drama, they might chip in for the group gift and not go if their relationship with the mama-to-be is that unpleasant.

    Reporting animal cruelty is a must, and people need to get as much photographic or video evidence as possible

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    One of the reasons the OP doesn’t like the supposedly pregnant woman is her treatment of animals. No living thing deserves to be treated poorly, and the family should try to report the woman’s behavior so that she faces consequences.

    The OP describes how animal control already visited the home but didn’t do anything. That might be because they didn’t have any evidence of animal cruelty. The Humane Society states that you have to document the instances of animal cruelty with dates, times, and specific details. If there is any visual evidence, like photographs or videos (even on a cellphone), the case will be stronger.

    The nonprofit defines animal cruelty as neglect. Physical abuse, according to them, happens less often, but is a very serious issue. “Violence toward animals is often part of a larger pattern of violence that can include people as well,” they explain.

    Hoarding animals is also a form of cruelty. Housing more than the owner can adequately take care of victimizes the animals. And while it may be hard to prove if there are only two or three dogs like in this story, other evidence like physical abuse should suffice.

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    The Humane Society lists emaciation as another form of animal abuse; it falls under the category of lack of veterinary care. Inadequate shelter can be dangerous to animals as well. If possible, they urge people to document their living situation and send it to the authorities.

    The Stray Rescue of St. Louis notes that chaining a dog is also a form of animal cruelty. First, they suffer psychological damage, becoming neurotic, anxious, aggressive, and generally miserable.

    Chained dogs can injure themselves trying to escape confinement, scratching their necks raw with the constant yanking and straining. They’re also very susceptible to attacks from other animals, insects, and even humans. When they’re attached to a chain, they don’t receive the proper amount of food and water, can face harsh weather conditions, and don’t get the love and affection they so crave.

    Many commenters suggested the OP be petty: “I’d show up with a pregnancy test as a gift”

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    Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

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    T Barth
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wonder where this takes place because where I live, animal abuse is a Class C felony. I'd be calling the police like, yesterday.

    Nikole
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right? Fúck the maybe baby; what she is doing is terrible! Take them away, and try to adopt them out (letting people know they’ve been abused), and if that doesn’t happen, bring them to a no kill shelter. The dad should kick them off the land. Animal abusers are shít.

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    Lara Torres
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Around that time she started hoarding dogs. She would get a dog, keep it for a while, and then get rid of it for another dog.” That’s not hoarding, that’s serial monogamy

    Mike F
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is crazy. Personally I'd just say, don't go if you don't want to go. If you already don't like or get along with her, send regrets that you need to stay home with a mild fever or something. After all, it's an invite, not a subpoena.

    Nikole
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn’t even reply. Thankfully my brother and I are smart (as is my SIL).

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    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Arrange something that takes you out of town. It's hard to just not go when you all love on the same property. But go stay with a. Friend, say it's an emergency and send regrets. Maybe spring the dogs and take them to a shelter far away while you're heading out.

    moggie63
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I don't like you. I don't believe you're pregnant. I'm not coming". End of story.

    Zophra
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA : She is more worried about a stupid baby gift than the lives of dogs.

    Susical
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There won't be a baby shower if the BIL's girlfriend goes to prison for animal abuse, & that's exactly what should happen.

    Dre Mosley
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She keeps dogs chained up outside and beats them. For that alone, she can go to hell. Her behavior towards her dogs should get her fined or arrested in most places.

    Paulina
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    TBH I don't care about the baby shower or pregnancy. What I want to know is why TF are this people enabling a criminal?!?! In vast majority of the world abusing animals is a crime. And I mean all of what she's doing: abandoning dogs, not feeding them enough, not letting them off of the chain ever, and hitting is definitely one. OP said they don't do anything about it "out of respect for Patric" but I don't get it. What respect has to do with anything? You see a crime, you report it. You see it happen MULTIPLE times, you keep calling police every single time!! If she kills someone you also will keep your mouth shut "out of respect"?! Unbelievable.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Instead of worrying about creating drama, someone should have a good long talk with the brother about that girlfriend. These folks are de facto enabling that person by always going along.

    ॐBoyGanesh
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who owns the property and why aren’t they establishing some rules & boundaries with this psycho? If attending the baby shower is not optional in order to maintain a relatively healthy & safe environment or community, buy a gift card for a baby store. Optionally, if it’s even an option, set up the online account with the store to register the card in order to see the purchase history. We have an older neighbor who uses her age to manufacture pity stories to grift money off many of us on our block. He son covertly warned us about her scamming money. We’re all practically strangers with her, but she has no problem telling us these stories of how needy she is (she isn’t). Instead of cash, we gave her a supermarket gift card. Once she told another neighbor she couldn’t pay her phone bill (her son pays it) so they offered to go to the mobile store or online to pay it for her. She backtracked on that and she now rarely asks for $$$ knowing none of us will give her cash.

    Kamal Hasan
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't believe the audacity of some people! Attending a baby shower when you're not even sure if the mom is really pregnant? That's just asking for drama. Plus, if the mom-to-be is treating her pets poorly, it makes me question her readiness to be a parent. I'd probably opt out and maybe chip in for a group gift instead.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She needs to film and report the animal abuse, not allow it to continue. As far as the baby shower goes, be tactfully unavailable - you have a previous commitment/mandatory work meeting/dentist appointment/best friend's birthday, and can't possibly make it to the shower. Send BIL a card with your best wishes, and a promise of a personalised gift that you will have embroidered/engraved/made to order with baby's name and birthday once she has arrived.

    Christos Arvanitis
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't care about the fake baby but the dog abuse has me furious! I hope that she got in trouble for animal cruelty. What an absolute piece of garbage

    María Hermida
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There no amount of love for anybody, even a family member, friend or partner, that can make me respect a person who is cruel to animals, or prevent me from reporting them or beating the s**t out of them if I see them hurting animals.

    Bat cat in a hat
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A tenner says she'll "lose" the non-existent baby right before or after the baby shower so she could exchange the gifts. POS, the brother in law should wise up and kick her out

    Robin Roper
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This girl is a load of trouble. That said, go to the shower and take a inexpensive gift and say, "I'm going to wait until the baby is born for my big gift - can't wait!" There will be no baby and no need to buy the big gift.

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't go based purely on the fact that she's a horrible person. Those poor dogs. And I pity any child that finds itself in her hands.

    Michelle Randazzo
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Call animal control and get those pups removed asap!!! And hand her a pregnancy test.

    Ashlie Benson
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just think, what if it's real? Then you are starting a lot of drama. If you absolutely cannot stomach it, say you'll go and day of be vomiting with diarrhea.

    BrunoVI
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate the way the internet judges people and situations, so I hate to be the one that claims there's a red flag here, but OP sure got a real, huge yellow flag here. The cluster of trailers on one property could be a really nice way for young adults to gain independence while keeping costs low, but it also means OP isn't establishing a new household, but rather joining a huge one... and if they turn a blind eye to animal abuse, there's probably OTHER dysfunctions that should get OP to NOPE the hell out of there.

    Peter Griffin
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, everyone living in trailer houses with their girlfriends on their parents property doesn’t seem to raise any green flags

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    Cooking Panda
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Courtney seems mentally unstable. Patrick should man up and ditch her, honestly what did he see in her? Is she hot or what? FIL & MIL as property owners could easily kick her out of their lawn. D*mba*s Patrick can follow her if she wants to sleep under a bridge.

    Melissa Harris
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP and her BF need to talk to his parents. If there's no baby this time they should have this woman leave their property.They can tell their son he can stay. He can keep seeing her (elsewhere) if he wants but she's no longer welcome on their property.

    T Barth
    Community Member
    Premium
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wonder where this takes place because where I live, animal abuse is a Class C felony. I'd be calling the police like, yesterday.

    Nikole
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right? Fúck the maybe baby; what she is doing is terrible! Take them away, and try to adopt them out (letting people know they’ve been abused), and if that doesn’t happen, bring them to a no kill shelter. The dad should kick them off the land. Animal abusers are shít.

    Load More Replies...
    Lara Torres
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Around that time she started hoarding dogs. She would get a dog, keep it for a while, and then get rid of it for another dog.” That’s not hoarding, that’s serial monogamy

    Mike F
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is crazy. Personally I'd just say, don't go if you don't want to go. If you already don't like or get along with her, send regrets that you need to stay home with a mild fever or something. After all, it's an invite, not a subpoena.

    Nikole
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn’t even reply. Thankfully my brother and I are smart (as is my SIL).

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    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Arrange something that takes you out of town. It's hard to just not go when you all love on the same property. But go stay with a. Friend, say it's an emergency and send regrets. Maybe spring the dogs and take them to a shelter far away while you're heading out.

    moggie63
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I don't like you. I don't believe you're pregnant. I'm not coming". End of story.

    Zophra
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA : She is more worried about a stupid baby gift than the lives of dogs.

    Susical
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There won't be a baby shower if the BIL's girlfriend goes to prison for animal abuse, & that's exactly what should happen.

    Dre Mosley
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She keeps dogs chained up outside and beats them. For that alone, she can go to hell. Her behavior towards her dogs should get her fined or arrested in most places.

    Paulina
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    TBH I don't care about the baby shower or pregnancy. What I want to know is why TF are this people enabling a criminal?!?! In vast majority of the world abusing animals is a crime. And I mean all of what she's doing: abandoning dogs, not feeding them enough, not letting them off of the chain ever, and hitting is definitely one. OP said they don't do anything about it "out of respect for Patric" but I don't get it. What respect has to do with anything? You see a crime, you report it. You see it happen MULTIPLE times, you keep calling police every single time!! If she kills someone you also will keep your mouth shut "out of respect"?! Unbelievable.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Instead of worrying about creating drama, someone should have a good long talk with the brother about that girlfriend. These folks are de facto enabling that person by always going along.

    ॐBoyGanesh
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who owns the property and why aren’t they establishing some rules & boundaries with this psycho? If attending the baby shower is not optional in order to maintain a relatively healthy & safe environment or community, buy a gift card for a baby store. Optionally, if it’s even an option, set up the online account with the store to register the card in order to see the purchase history. We have an older neighbor who uses her age to manufacture pity stories to grift money off many of us on our block. He son covertly warned us about her scamming money. We’re all practically strangers with her, but she has no problem telling us these stories of how needy she is (she isn’t). Instead of cash, we gave her a supermarket gift card. Once she told another neighbor she couldn’t pay her phone bill (her son pays it) so they offered to go to the mobile store or online to pay it for her. She backtracked on that and she now rarely asks for $$$ knowing none of us will give her cash.

    Kamal Hasan
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't believe the audacity of some people! Attending a baby shower when you're not even sure if the mom is really pregnant? That's just asking for drama. Plus, if the mom-to-be is treating her pets poorly, it makes me question her readiness to be a parent. I'd probably opt out and maybe chip in for a group gift instead.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She needs to film and report the animal abuse, not allow it to continue. As far as the baby shower goes, be tactfully unavailable - you have a previous commitment/mandatory work meeting/dentist appointment/best friend's birthday, and can't possibly make it to the shower. Send BIL a card with your best wishes, and a promise of a personalised gift that you will have embroidered/engraved/made to order with baby's name and birthday once she has arrived.

    Christos Arvanitis
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't care about the fake baby but the dog abuse has me furious! I hope that she got in trouble for animal cruelty. What an absolute piece of garbage

    María Hermida
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There no amount of love for anybody, even a family member, friend or partner, that can make me respect a person who is cruel to animals, or prevent me from reporting them or beating the s**t out of them if I see them hurting animals.

    Bat cat in a hat
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A tenner says she'll "lose" the non-existent baby right before or after the baby shower so she could exchange the gifts. POS, the brother in law should wise up and kick her out

    Robin Roper
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This girl is a load of trouble. That said, go to the shower and take a inexpensive gift and say, "I'm going to wait until the baby is born for my big gift - can't wait!" There will be no baby and no need to buy the big gift.

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't go based purely on the fact that she's a horrible person. Those poor dogs. And I pity any child that finds itself in her hands.

    Michelle Randazzo
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Call animal control and get those pups removed asap!!! And hand her a pregnancy test.

    Ashlie Benson
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just think, what if it's real? Then you are starting a lot of drama. If you absolutely cannot stomach it, say you'll go and day of be vomiting with diarrhea.

    BrunoVI
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate the way the internet judges people and situations, so I hate to be the one that claims there's a red flag here, but OP sure got a real, huge yellow flag here. The cluster of trailers on one property could be a really nice way for young adults to gain independence while keeping costs low, but it also means OP isn't establishing a new household, but rather joining a huge one... and if they turn a blind eye to animal abuse, there's probably OTHER dysfunctions that should get OP to NOPE the hell out of there.

    Peter Griffin
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, everyone living in trailer houses with their girlfriends on their parents property doesn’t seem to raise any green flags

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    Cooking Panda
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Courtney seems mentally unstable. Patrick should man up and ditch her, honestly what did he see in her? Is she hot or what? FIL & MIL as property owners could easily kick her out of their lawn. D*mba*s Patrick can follow her if she wants to sleep under a bridge.

    Melissa Harris
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP and her BF need to talk to his parents. If there's no baby this time they should have this woman leave their property.They can tell their son he can stay. He can keep seeing her (elsewhere) if he wants but she's no longer welcome on their property.

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