Doctors Are Sharing What Happened When They Diagnosed Covid-19 Deniers With Covid-19 (30 Stories)
148 million confirmed novel coronavirus cases worldwide, more than 3 million deaths, and almost 86 million recoveries. Not to mention all the lost jobs and worsening mental health situation for many. That’s the impact that the Covid-19 pandemic has had globally. However, after more than a year of pain, grieving, endless lockdowns, and a medical crisis the likes of which most of us haven’t seen before, there are still people out there who believe that the coronavirus is a hoax.
When redditor IzziSparks asked the doctors of Reddit to share what happened when they diagnosed Covid-19 deniers with the coronavirus, their thread immediately went viral. With nearly 76k upvotes and more than 19k comments, the topic quickly started up a fiery discussion about how some people will never believe the truth. Even if it’s staring them right in the face. Have a read through some of the stories that doctors shared, dear Readers.
Dr. Andrew Carroll, from Arizona, told Bored Panda that there's no surefire way of convincing Covid deniers that they're wrong even when the evidence seems overwhelming. "People believe those charismatic people on television over people who have dedicated their lives to science and saving lives. We even see people who are on oxygen in a hospital, dying, and we’re unable to save them, and there they are telling us that they don’t have Covid because it’s a hoax. While they’re dying. It makes no sense. Yes, there are still many people who believe it’s a government hoax (and it’s not just the US government) and some sort of means at population control," Dr. Carroll explained.
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Medical spouse here. Husband works as a hospitalist in a rural hospital one week a month. He went to help in the ER bc they had patient that needed to be tubed who was Covid positive but didn’t believe in Covid. The patient’s oxygen level got below 70% or 60% (or whatever severely hypoxic is) so they told him he needed to be intubated. The patient screamed at my husband that he was lying and that if he tubed him he’d sue. Husband asked if he could do it if the guy stopped breathing and the dude said “well that’s different”. So he waited 15 minutes for him to pass out from lack of oxygen and then intubated him and walked out.
Sorry had to laugh a bit at this one. Such juvenile behaviour, like when a kid throws a tantrum and holds their breath!
Could be that he thought he wouldn't stop breathing, because he didn't believe it was COVID. "Yeah, whatever, not gonna happen, but do what ya gotta do".
Load More Replies...15% of an oxygen level below 70% would result in brain damage. In this patient's case, I doubt anyone would be able to tell.
Me too! Isn't it just fantastic here in America, where %80 of people are just trying to make a living, mind their own business, care and respect about their fellow humans worldwide from every background, and just want a peaceful and happy existence ; while the other %20 make sure they are seen and heard by the rest of Earth's inhabitants -declaring they represent all 'mericans , as they dance on the world stage in full view. The media loves it, and captures every word, act, belief, and Twinkie they cram in their mouth; while the rest of us, stay mortified , especially when they hate out of ignorance, and mostly embarrassed, because if I saw Americans thru the lens of the %20- I would think what a lot of other pple in the world do:" Americans?! Yuck!" Yes, every place in the world has their small group of "%20", but unfortunately, our %20 think America *is the only place*. Sigh...guess we have to keep them, even other ppls %20 's wont play with them...
Load More Replies...This was used when I was on ski patrol. *Very rarely* people would injure themselves badly but refuse to let anyone touch them and we couldn't do anything. They will eventually pass out from the pain, so you ask again if you can start treatment, no response? Take it as an OK. Really, WTF is wrong with some people??
I am deeply concerned about the psychological damage being done to all the brave frontline medical personnel who are working through this pandemic either through a sense of duty or because of orders. Even those who quit because they felt they needed to protect their families may have survivor guilt. Many, if not most will have PTSD from this, how could they not?
Doctor here.. I was working in a small community hospital in the A&E. This hospital was affiliated to a larger tertiary care center which was out of beds. So it wasn't accepting any more patients. The nearby hospitals were also out of beds. Us being a primary care could only give symptomatic treatment and refer the patient. Once a lady came with severe breathlessness. SpO2 was 68%. We couldn't do anything for her. We were out of O2. It was horrible.
In the UK there have been incidences of people with lung cancers, heart conditions, pneumonia and flu being diagnosed as covid. You can look up the UK Lung Cancer Coalition report and it states that people who presented to their GP with a cough were told to isolate at home and were not referred to a cancer specialist. I have heard doctors use the terms: possible covid, potentially covid, covid like, hard to differentiate, difficult clinical challenge and even put ??? on a patients notes. Patients going into hospital with UTIs and triaged to a covid ward despite testing negative and tests confirming the UTI. People with sepsis being left untreated because they were told they had “potential covid” put in a covid ward “to be on the safe side” and then placed on end of life. When a person died the doctor put it down as a covid death because the symptoms overlap. This is the reality across millions of hospitals around the world. There needs to be a completely independent investigation into this.
i believe covid exists but i also believe in mass hysteria and government control. and i definitely believe in DNR orders. i dont care how sick i get, i refuse to be treated for anything against my will. i'd rather die than be crippled with lifelong medical bills.
FYI two years ago at a young 36 I was put in the icu with pneumonia in all 5 lobes of my lungs. My husband found me in bed with my arms and legs blue and fingernail and toenails black from lack of oxygen. I was rushed by ambulance to the hospital with oxygen levels at 45 and I was able to only be put on a bipap machine and never needed intubated. The moral is, I find it very hard to believe that someone with oxygen levels in the 70's would lose consciousness.
Not meaning to be rude but what happens to you doesn’t universally apply to others.
Load More Replies...This is not uncommon at all. It is a matter of informed consent vs implied consent.
Our daughter is a front-line nurse. She had one dying woman Foxbot screaming, between gasping for air, “Tell me what I really have!! Tell me!!! I should know!!!”
“You have COVID-19.”
“COVID does not exist. It’s fake and being used to control us. Tell me what I have!!!”
Couple in their mid sixty years. Very and very and very rich. They came with all symptoms. Screaming COVID19 don't exist. For them, it was a flu. Drink hot tea with lemon and honey at home. Some advil for fever. Everything will be alright. Refuse to be hospitalized. Try to sue the hospital with their army of lawyers. It was in June 2020. They signed their papers. Go home. Come two days later on the hospital. Dead. Their son was in Japan. Never come to reclaim body. He just called to confirm the death of his parents. End of the story.
Bored Panda wanted to get Dr. Carroll's take on the last few months and whether we can say that we're starting to win the fight against Covid-19. The doctor said that some people are getting a moment of respite, at least in the US, but pointed out that the situation has gone from bad to worse in India. Which might be a ticking time bomb for the rest of the world because of the potential coronavirus mutations there as the situation worsens.
"Here in the US, with the number of people who have contracted the disease, along with a high number of immunizations, the caseload has dropped significantly. We can breathe for now, but the absolute tragedy in India has me very concerned about an escape mutation that may make its way back to the US which infects us once again," he said.
"I believe it’ll infect the unvaccinated first, but may spread and could evade the vaccine immunity. We will need to watch carefully for any new mutations and make sure everyone around the world is vaccinated and boosted adequately to finally quell this once and for all. The death rate from this disease is much higher than the flu, and if it continues to perpetuate year over year, we will decimate our most needy, poor, and marginalized world citizens."
Didn’t diagnose, but I’m sure you’ll appreciate the mental gymnastics..
I worked obs & gynae a few months back. For obstetrics we had an amber ward (confirmed non-covid ward), and a red ward (confirmed covid/no test done).
We’d require mum and partner to both get covid tests done in our clinic the day before the planned admission so we knew which ward to place them in.
One patient refused to have the swab taken because she thought covid was a hoax. So we were told her she’d have to stay in the red ward during her admission as we couldn’t confirm she didn’t have covid if she didn’t have a test. She went absolutely mental saying “you can’t do that!! What if I get covid??!”
Oxymoron should now also describe covid denial. Moron in need of oxygen
Doctor here: I was working in the COVID ICU as a resident physician. We were getting crushed with new patients and the ICUs were overflowing. I admitted this elderly gentleman around 2am with respiratory failure due to COVID. He was maintaining his oxygen saturation with high flow nasal cannula oxygen, but notably short of breath and unable to speak full sentences without gasping for air. At this point in the night I had been working about 22 hours into my 28 hour call shift. All I want to do is take a quick history and physical and get out of the room to reduce my exposure. He proceeds to tell me all about how COVID is a hoax and starts rambling on about some bible passage. He even told me I needed to read the Bible more. I was beyond emotionally and physically drained by this point to respond to the audacity of his comments. He would later get intubated and spend a week on the ventilator. I think he survived, but it’s hard to remember. To say this pandemic made me cynical is an understatement.
I would slap him in the face for him to wake up for life. The real life.
Not a doctor. Each member of my family had Covid and still believe Covid is fake. The problem is they survived having Covid, so in their mind Covid isn't real. They also believe Kamala Harris is going to assassinate Biden, declare Sharia Law, and Obama will seize power with antifa. So there's that.
Do you think the have put all the things they hate into three categories: room, person and weapon, then play some kind of cluedo draw to come up with their newest conspiracy? It was kamala in the Whitehouse with the lead pipe? Or miss Scarlett at a blm rally with a.... teeny tiny 5g chip? I would accuse: the deniers, with the false information, entire world (person/thing/place)
The development of multiple shots to help people fight off Covid-19 hasn’t put a stop to the pandemic, even though it’s dented its advance in some areas. While some Western countries are slowly breathing a very wary (and weary) sigh of relief after mass vaccination programs have gone underway, other nations are struggling with the massive spread of the virus. Countries like India.
The BBC reports that, at the time of writing, India has seen more Covid cases in the last week than any other country on Earth. “A ferocious second wave has seen the official death toll surpass 200,000,” the BBC writes. However, experts believe that the actual number of fatalities could, in fact, be much higher.
India is in the midst of a medical catastrophe: hospitals have run out of beds in many areas, oxygen supplies are dwindling, and healthcare staff are overworked. Some nations are reaching out to help India deal with this crisis, including the United States.
Our neighbour was a covid denier. So he wanted to prove that his healthy lifestyle of Crossfit would prove it is a bad cold.
He now uses a mobility scooter to reach the mailbox, speaks like Stevie from Malcolm in the middle, takes more pills than people twice his age, and can't taste or smell anything.
This is a conversation I have 3-4 times DAILY. Still.
Idiot: Hey doctor Scallion, I dont feel good, I have a fever, cough, cant taste anything and feel like I cant breathe. I think I have pneumonia but its not covid.
Scallion: Ok lets get a chest xray and check a covid test
Idiot: No I definitely dont gave covid, I couldnt have gotten infected... I dont do anything.
Scallion: Ok what did you do today?
Idiot: Well I went to work, then watched my son play soccer, then went to dinner at chipotle, then we visited my daughter and her husband. Other than that nOtHiNg.
Scallion: Ok you have COVID.
Idiot: that test cant be right!?!? i have NO symptoms of covid!
Scallion: you have literally every symptom of covid...and your covid test is positive.
Idiot: thats crazy, my wife also has covid. What a coincidence!!!
Scallion: please euthanize yourself
I was a volunteer on the covid ward.
Loads of people who called it the "China virus" but they still took it seriously. Then I had 1 patient who didn't believe it when he was told he was positive so he spit on me. So obviously I got it too (eventhough I was wearing all the protective clothing but the guy was determined) and I got very sick and never went back.
President Joe Biden plans to send vaccines to India where, currently, only just under 9 percent of the population has had at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine. In comparison, in the US, over 42 percent of all citizens have had at least one dose of the vaccine; the number stands at around 50 percent in the United Kingdom and a whopping 62 percent in Israel, according to Our World in Data.
Despite all the overwhelming evidence, we still have deniers who trust fishy online sources more than official ones. Earlier on, I interviewed Joseph M. Pierre, a professor of psychiatry at UCLA. We spoke about conspiracy theories and why they’re so popular nowadays.
According to Professor Pierre, conspiracy theories in the current era are political in nature and are rooted in people losing trust in authority figures. “It’s stereotypically liberals that trust science and support mask-wearing, social distancing, and vaccination (although historically there have been many liberal ‘anti-vaxxers’),” he told Bored Panda earlier.
I'm an attending physician at our Triage Unit. On a friday, an older gentleman (60 + years) came in with his entire family (wife, sister, BIL, 2 newphes and 3 children), none of them with a face-mask. All had mild COVID symtoms except him, he was saturating 80% with evident shortness of breath. We insisted in doing PCR and a chest CAT-scan looking for COVID but he and his wife refused saying that COVID wasn't real and it was just a bacterial infection.The more we talked with him the more aggitated he got to the point that his face was red. We suggested hospitalizing him to stabilize him and start treatment, but they accused us of exaggerating his symptoms and that we only wanted to hospitalize him so we could steal the liquid in his knees (a stupid rumor that was going around when this whole thing started).
They both cursed at us and said they were going to a better hospital to get antibiotics. Fastfoward 24 hours later on Saturday, we get a call from the hospital next county over telling us that they intubated one of our patients because he went into respiratory failure when he arrived and they had to transfer him here because they don't have the appropiate equipment. We transfer the patient on Sunday only to find out on the CAT-scan he had 90% of lung damage. He passed away on Monday morning.
Just before the family took the body away, I gave the widow the death certificate (that I filled out) and before walking away, she turns around and waves the certificate yelling "See! I told you it wasn't COVID! It says here: "Death due to pulmonary pneumonia due to SARS-CoV-2! I knew it was a bacteria!". I told her: "SARS-CoV-2 is COVID-19, ma'am".
Americans have become so moronic and stupid, I have stopped feeling sorry for the deaths of the truly ignorant deniers.
I'm an anesthesiologist, and in our institution, we're the ones tasked with intubating covid suspects / positive patients who would otherwise die without ventilatory support. And holy hell, there are a lot of patients who don't believe Covid is real (most of them believe that it's just an elaborate lie that Doctors use to label random patients to mooch money off them). Some of them scream at us (in whatever capacity their diseased lungs can allow them to), some outright refuse intubation (in which case they die several hours later from respiratory failure). It's emotionally taxing having to face that every shift.
I would not be emotionally strong enough to do what they do. I'm eternally grateful that people continue and face this intolerable burden, and keep on going. I think they deserve more pay, like supermarket workers and other essential people who have proven just how essential they are during the pandemic. Thank God or whomever that there are intelligent people willing to become medical staff, knowing they will be treated this way, because they want to help people.
My wife’s a nurse, just had to deal with a patient who refused to get tested prior to her surgery so they had to treat her like a covid patient and needed to charge her for all the added PPE like gowns, goggles etc. the kicker is, recovery wouldn’t take her for observation while she was woken up so the anesthesiologist needed to stay and monitor her in the room for nearly 3 hours. They are billed at $400/15 minutes and there is no way her insurance is going to cover the extra cost because she signed a document saying she denied a covid test.
“Wearing masks, unfortunately, has become a kind of political debate, at least here in the US. That is, it’s stereotypically conservatives or Trump supporters that refute the science on masks and Covid-19 more generally, continuing an undermining of science as an institution of authority that’s been ongoing for some years now and was played out before Covid-19 with climate change,” Pierre explained that parts of the debate related to Covid-19 (and avoiding it) have become completely political.
What’s more, Professor Pierre from UCLA suggests not debating conspiracy theorists because they’ll keep “moving the goalposts” in order to protect their beliefs. “Often with conspiracy theories that involve scientific facts, there’s a tendency to focus on some obscure example of experimental minutia (e.g. the temperature of combusted jet fuel and the melting point of the WTC columns), and then moving onto another if that’s refuted, rather than addressing the big picture questions that make the conspiracy theory so ridiculous.”
I work on a COVID unit and I ran into a patient like this. They'd tell me over and over again about how they weren't really sick and about how I didn't need to be gowned up in PPE. They even tried to take my face shield off. If you test positive for COVID two times then you have COVID! People are crazy.
YOU’RE A LIAR! THIS VIRUS IS A HOAX! I’LL GET YOUR LICENCE PULLED FOR THIS! They later died refusing their dying breath that COVID was a hoax.
I'm a (student) funeral director and I see families go to the funeral of someone who died of covid-19 and still deny it. They started out shrieking at the doctors to change the cause of death on the death certificate. Now FEMA is helping with funeral expenses for covid deaths. Suddenly there's changes of heart.
The text above this photo - the percentage of people who have had their first vaccine is 64% in the UK.
Meanwhile, at the start of the pandemic, I also had a chat with Dr. Claudia Pastides, from Babylon Health, about why people believe conspiracy theories about the coronavirus. She said that, at the time, there was a lack of substantial and verified information to explain why the virus behaves as it does. “As a result, it is easy to fill this void with untruths about the virus’s effects and the prevention of its symptoms,” she said. Since then, there’s been more and more information about the coronavirus.
“As people are desperate for more knowledge and information about the virus, they are more prone to believe these misconceptions. It is instinctive in humans to seek solutions to problems, and when there is a crisis, such as this pandemic, they might be willing to believe anything they hear without verifying it first,” Dr. Pastides explained why some people turned to conspiracies at the start of the pandemic last year.
My worst experience was when a 2 year old kid got diagnosed with COVID. His mother had brought him with c/o fever and diarrhea. The child was severely dehydrated and so we had to do a mandatory swab test since we planned to admit him. It came positive and the mother refused to admit it. We were ready to perform a repeat test and we even advised for the parents to get tested. Her defense was " The child never left the house. Its just I and the father who go to work daily. The grandmother babysits while we are away. How can he even get COVID without leaving the house." She had called her husband, he came with 10-15 relatives in a car, they broke a few chairs and then left with the baby. We just informed about the case to the COVID control centre.
They left with the baby? That's enough reason to take the child from them for me.
ER doctor here. I diagnose people with COVID on the daily. Some people are actually really great about it, others are... more difficult. I'll tell you a tale that occurred during my most recent shift. Back to back rooms and patients.
Patient A, in room #4, is a 23 yo male, no medical history, comes in with body aches, malaise, and fatigue. Also had some mild nausea without abdominal pain or vomiting.
Patient B, in room #5, is a 51 yo female, medical history of intermittent asthma - so she uses a puffer infrequently, comes in with shortness of breath, has some possible fevers at home. In triage it was noted that this patient's Oxygen sats were in the 88 range and her heart rate wasn't elevated. Interestingly, when asked if she thought she had covid she said "I can't have it, I tested negative two weeks ago when my son tested positive. He's been sick at home."
You guessed it. Both people covid +.
Patient A went home. He's doing great. Was extremely remorseful and before he'd even left the ED he called his work to let them know he was positive and to get everyone there tested because he figured he had gotten the illness at work (IIRC he worked in a small family-owned warehouse as a foreman). He also called his parents and they were getting him setup to sleep in the garage until his quarantine was up. I respected this guy.
Patient B got admitted to the hospital because her O2 sats weren't great. When I went back to tell her she was covid + she called me a liar and told me I must have made a mistake. She threatened to sign out AMA (against medical advice) but when she got up to leave she got so short of breath the nurse used that to convince her to stay.
People are strange sometimes. I try not to let stuff bother me, but covid deniers come very close to crossing that line
Covid+ deniers aren't different from HIV+ in the 90s that would have unprotected sex without informing partners.
I still had to treat her despite her accusing me of hiding the real diagnosis from her and doing something to make her sicker. Love my job.
One thing that hasn’t changed is that we should do our best to verify if a source is trustworthy or not. Try to get your news from reliable sources, not niche websites, conspiracy theory groups, and your Facebook feed.
“The World Health Organization has a dedicated coronavirus myth-busting page on their website, where they sum up the majority of the misconceptions flourishing on the internet at the minute. This is a great place to start to verify whether what you’ve heard is correct,” Dr. Pastides said. “[Another option] is to contact a medical professional, who will be able to tell you quickly if the theories you’ve heard are false or not.” And from what we’ve read about the enduring patience of doctors, we’re sure that they’ll be more than happy to help you out with your query, exhausted as they are.
I had a patient struggling to breathe and admitted on oxygen and her husband still maintained it was a liberal hoax. She was pissed (at him).
Helped tube her.
I explained she had covid and that her sats with High Flow Nasal Oxygen at an FiO2 of 90% and 60L per minute with a 15LNRB over the top for good measure was still only 82-85%. She maintained it was a lie the entire time, even when her sats were in the 90s earlier in the admission to ITU.
I explained we had to tube her to keep her alive. In the end I had to bargain with her that I was tubing her because she had a bad pneumonia but that COVID wasn’t the cause. I just agreed and so off we went.
She actually survived and on her way out of ITU to a covid ward she just looked at myself and the consultant and said “told you it wasn’t covid”
I am an emergency doctor and diagnosed a older white gentleman (60, probably) with covid. He came in with obvious symptoms but was obviously a Trump type guy with an attitude. When the swab came back positive he got visibly angry and asked me what I was going to do about it. He wasn't sick enough to need any treatment so I told him to just go home and stay hydrated and gave him my usual spiel about following up and yada yada. He then proceeded to scream at me that CNN told him this was the most horrible thing in the world and how could I possibly not do anything about it!!!! I politely told him I was not intending to have a political conversation with him and then walked out of the room. The nurse handed him his discharge paperwork and he walked out.
I think he came in just to show off his minimal symptoms to prove that the virus wasn't that bad. There was a patient in the next room with an oxygen saturation of 55 but I didn't bother telling him. That's not a hill I'm going to die on to convince some jerk of facts he'll never believe.
My mom works for an OBGYN who specializes in high-risk pregnancies and births, and he was called into the hospital to check out a woman whose due date was about 2 weeks away and who was very sick.. He confirmed she had COVID and admitted her to the hospital until she gave birth, but she insisted it was a hoax and ended up checking herself out AMA, but not before she spat in the face of the nurse, who coincidentally had just completed chemo. That was near the beginning of the pandemic, and I'm so curious what happened to that lady. The nurse is okay, thank goodness.
Intentionally spitting on someone, generally, can be considered assault, especially if you spit in someone’s face.
My wife and I travel for work and she happens to work in medical labs, usually large hospitals. I’ve been shocked by the sheer amount of lab techs and the like who refuse to wear masks and nonchalantly go about life as if COVID weren’t real.
Yeah there are way too many trashbag people in the medical field, which just help regular people maintain their stupidity about covid. They shouldn’t be allowed to work in hospitals and clinics.
I had a lady who was maxed out on high flow (next step is breathing tube) who still refused she had Covid and was holding a negative test in her hand that she had taken a week prior.
Physician here. The willful cognitive dissonance is real. It never ceases to amaze me how many patients will refuse assistance from me to register to get vaccinated, make claims that vaccines are harmful, but then accept my medical care on anything else that suits their whim. Patients absolutely have autonomy to refuse care, but why would you continue to see a physician and accept their medical advice and care if you think they would simultaneously recommend something to you that would be harmful?
I've posed this question to patients who are vaccine hesitant: "Why would you let me manage your diabetes and hypertension if you think I would harm you by recommending vaccinations?" You cannot get any kind of thoughtful response aside from, "I just don't want to be vaccinated."
Give them 2 aspirin, send them home, and then concentrate of caring for those who will LISTEN
They just kept denying they had it, stated they had something else, and tried to leave against medical advice while on high flow nasal canula which we didn't let him do because he would have died within minutes. Before he was admitted to the hospital, he was symptomatic but refused to isolate at home. He gave it to his wife who ended up in the ICU.
ER doc chiming in. They told me I was wrong. Obviously, there’s no way they had COVID despite coming in to the ER for shortness of breath, cough, and fevers.
When I mentioned that their wife who was several rooms down also had COVID, their response was: oh, that makes sense because she always gets sick.
When I asked how it made sense that they wouldn’t have COVID with the same symptoms I was told that it was because they were overall healthy and only took their mask off to eat and drink in the casino
I have treated a young male in our ICU with critical COVID19 with severe diabetic ketoacidosis. He did not believe in insulin (yes, you are reading this right) or other antidiabetics, even though insulin is inexpensive in our country. He tried to treat his type 2 diabetes with herbs, his HbA1C (the lab value showing the state of his diabetes on the longer run) was off the roof. He did not vaccinate (he was offered), did not wear a mask, did not distance, and did not believe in any of this coronabullshit. Most of this information was obtained from his 20 year old daughter, as he was quite disoriented at presentation and was intubated urgently. She was sobbing through the phone every day for 1.5 months until he died. I held the phone with his daughter on call to his ears multiple times when he was still intubated but his mind cleared up and his sedation was optimal. I was quite convinced that he realised his mistake on the ventilator, with lines and tubes inserted into his body everywhere and in his last clear moments, when his mind allowed, but I cannot be absolutely sure. I often think about the last conversation and last mental images people have before their death.
Family members have come in with a sick family member and lied about exposure and/or symptoms (despite a member(s) testing positive). This can/has lead to inappropriate management, delay in treatment, and exposure of staff and other families. The family members then get angry when told to isolate.
About 3 years ago before COVID re@red it’s ugly head, I had a lady come into our aged car facility to visit her 98 yo father. She asked me for a mask and admitted she had a really bad cold. There are and we’re signs on the front door telling people to stay away if ill. Hadn’t read them and was shocked when I showed her the door and suggested she go home. I am the charge nurse after hours. I have a duty of ace for my residents.
Infectious disease doctor here. Seen about 450-500 COVID patients in the hospital since it all started. Only one patient ever accused me of using the nasal swab to give him COVID (along with a microchip). A handful have (EDIT) ranted nonstop about China. Everyone else has been sick enough to accept it, but lots still refuse the idea of vaccination even after being in the ICU.
I don't care if I get downvoted, but idiots like these deserve not only covid, but some sort of punishment because their stupidity affects so many others... And something that amazes me, is the fact that 'muricans can refuse to wear a mask. WTF? Where I live, you can't get into any kind of business without a mask. They just don't let you in. period. You wear the fckn mask in the middle of a fckn pandemic, you dipshït.
For me and in this level of stupidity we should let Darwing natural selection take over, and they deny and refuse to go to the hospital...well...do it be...the only problem its the people around them that they going to get it as well and it's not fair...otherwise I would dy let it go ....go my child and never return!
Load More Replies...These are painful to read. The tension between having vowed to help but having people who deem themselves entitled to receiving help yet show no respect at all must be tearing.
We've had two suicides, three attempted, and a sharp increase in alcohol abuse where I am. We're not in a big city, so there are no back-up systems. It's us and that's it. it's demolished us all, emotionally, mentally. I'm at the vax clinic the next few weeks, and that's .... not better than the hospital. random people walk in for the shot, but really to trash the place, scream about god, blah blah blah. We can't even get angry anymore. Too burned out. We just slog through it, brains like heaps of ashes in our skulls.
Load More Replies...Whomever stated at the beginning of all this that "Covid is just like flu" should be forever incarcerated in a solitary cell.
In the United States that person's name is Donald Trump.
Load More Replies...I gave up my career as a healthcare professional because of this. By the time the last unmasked idiot spat at me and told me I was doing Satan's work for asking them to wear a mask, I had been quarantined from my family for 11 weeks. That's 11 weeks of staying in an out room, away from my family, only going to work and back. 11 weeks without touching or being touched by anyone. 11 weeks of consoling my kids through a closed door while they were scared of what was happening. 11 weeks of crying on the phone with my mom, my husband and my best friend. 11 weeks of me sacrificing my mental health, my life to serve the community while keeping my loved ones safe from an inbred OEDIPUS THAT REFUSED TO WEAR A PIECE OF CLOTH OVER HIS MOUTH AND NOSE! And to have the audacity to tell me that I am going to Hell for conforming to regulations! Look around you! THIS IS HELL!!
I'm so sorry about your horrible experience...I'm not cying..yes I am.
Load More Replies...I'm on a different shift volunteering at the hospital right now, and this is my life for a year now. I am not as patient as I was last year. I am not as able to stay calm. Right now I'm "bouncer" at the vax clinic. We tell each other, "Anyone who doesn't get a shot should never get medicare/medicaid or any health insurance ever for Covid-related complications or Covid treatment, b/c we already lost 500K people to these a**holes, let 'em rot." Yeah. Front lines of Covid ------ you're treated like crap by people who demand to be treated like God, and the families.... God save us from the families. "What're you doing to grandpa!" SAVING HIS LIFE AFTER YOUR SUPER_SPREADER EVENT FAMILY PICNIC!!!.... OK, we don't say that to the patient or the families, but when we decompress.... Well, we don't anymore. We're too burned out by this sh*t. So: WEAR YOUR MASK, SOCIAL DISTANCE, STOP COMPLAINING. Your right to go to WalMart does not supersede anyone else's right to LIVE. .... UGH.
My cousin is currently in a rehab hospital learning to walk again after getting COVID. He was a denier and his wife still doesn't believe COVID caused his multiple organ failure that resulted in his inability to walk. Right now, the cousin has zero kidney function, get dialysis daily and stays on oxygen or bi-pap 24/7 in order to keep him alive. The doctors aren't sure what to do with him because his wife has POA and since she doesn't believe he had COVID, she often refuses recommended medical treatment. She has hired a team of attorneys to get to the bottom of what is wrong with him and sue. Oh, he is currently on day 98 of being in the hospital and in the fourth hospital. Since his wife refuses medical treatment for him, the hospitals transfer him out because they can't just have him laying bed. The next step for him is a nursing home and wait for him to die. His father is going to court to get the POA moved from the wife to him.
I read the first ten of these stories, and I had to stop. It got too depressing to realize that so many of our fellow humans are just so...dumb and callous, and the abuse that health care workers have to endure seems endless.
Same. The stupidest conspiracy theory is the one that goes "People are dying of other things and they just put Covid on the death certificate because they get paid more for that." If you ask "Paid more by WHO???" they either don't have an answer or insist that it's some plot by "the liberals".
Load More Replies...Why do people even go to the hospital, then? They're lucky that doctors, nurses, and other medical professionals aren't allowed to turn them away.
Some show up specifically to taunt us, spit, cough, etc., and mock. It's been a real treat. UGH
Load More Replies...I took my mother to the doctor yesterday. I went through three layers of people asking about cough, shortness of breath, etc, and I answered, "No, and we are both fully vaccinated." Before the end of the visit, the doc asked if I had thought about the vaccine. I said, "Not much, since the second shot." She sighed with relief and said that's wonderful. She told us she had to be very careful bringing up the subject because she's gotten yelled at quite a few times. It's not an easy time to be a doctor.
As some have said, the spread of COVID depends on 2 factors: How dense your population is and how dense your population is.
The public does not see the reality of covid. All the pictures of us are typing at a computer. But, you need people's/families permission to film. Show the people on vents with multiple multiple iv infusions etc. In one story on CNN the reporters did go into a covid ICU and film someone who's tube had to be changed because it was blocked. When the MD tossed the old tube on the bed, what yhey did not say is that all that hamburger stuff on the tube was lung tissue that was sloughing off dead. That man was definitely going to die. People should see that. Unfortunately, medicine has not figured out how to fix stupid. After this, I think you will see an exodus of doctors, nurses and RT'S with PTSD and just plain had it. Very sad.
Exodus is beginning wher eI am. Of coures, two went by SUICIDE.... but that's b/c "they were weak".... And, yeah, nobody wants to realize you lungs can become sludge, your heart can be damaged, your immune system will never react properly again.... ARGH.
Load More Replies...I don’t know where all these people got the idea of Covid being fake, but original source of “fake news” should be charged with a felony
One elderly lady from neighborhood refuse to believe that covid is dangerous to young people. (You're young and healthy, what are you afraid of? ) She accused me of lying when I told her that I, young and previously healthy person needed ventilator to survive....
I had to stop reading before the tenth because it was too unfuriating.
Get sick, go to your doctor, she tell you you have a specific disease. Tell her she's full of s**t and go ask your preacher what's wrong with you. The United States of Crazy Stupid White Trash.
I'm an anesthesiologist and In honestly regretting my profession. I have depression and severe anxiety and patients like this don't help at all. I AM SO TIRED!!!
If this is the average in the USA, then there really is no hope I think. All countries have a few nutters, but in the USA it seems to be the silent majority that are the nutters.
Load More Replies...I couldn't read it whole. Me and my same-age friend signed up for our vaccines just yesterday and we are very happy. Today I've seen so many negative comments about the vaccine center in my town - not about it but about the people, that we are sheep, idiots, pity people who will force others to take the vaccine. Please tell me there is hope. I am so angry. I had covid, my partner had it, my buddy lost his dad to it and coughed blood himself... Yet there are people going into tantrum upon mentionin vaccines. WHY????
How can people do this?! I cant understand that mentality. How vastly differently some people view the world. I still go in every year with a ginormous cake for the icu at my local hospital after they spent 6 weeks saving my life repetitively in 2017; I can never repay that debt(I don't mean money we have social healthcare, I mean the above and beyond they did for me that made all the difference .) The only time I was an ass I think was during some of my concious hallucinations (thought they were gna kill me, tried to escape through imaginary doors by unplugging my iv, the usual) and I felt horrible, I apologised to all my nurses. I judt don't understand how someone can be do hateful, so brainwashed, so in danger and dangerous at the same time. Humans can be good, but humanity is awful
I just cannot get my head around people denying proven facts, covid or any other, and call that an opinion that is to be protected as their freely expressable opinion. There are invalid opinions - those contradicting proven facts. The earth is (well, close to) spherical, 4 billion years old, and covid exists. Learn to accept facts - denying then as a political standpoint doesn't lead anywhere. At least not anywhere good...
To me, the refusal to wear a mask is criminal. We should have started with $50 fines for offense 1. $500 for #2 and jail until the pandemic was under control for #3. This was a health risk. It affected others. It's no different than any other form of harming others by your actions. AIDS set the precedent. Get others sick, you do time.
It just beggars belief how wilfully ignorant and plain stupid people can be. Like how do you get to the point that you are yelling "it's a hoax!" with your dying breath? Kinda speechless to be honest.
Two of my classmates last semester got covid. Luckily enough, said class that they were in with me was remote, but ofc I still felt bad for them. The pandemic as of now is very much so still a thing that we need to be careful about. Both of my parents are scientists, and one of them has a doctoral degree in immunology, so our family most certainly does not kid around about covid.
Just let Darwin take his course. Kick out the patients who spit at staff. Why on earth should doctors, nurses, hospital cleaners or anyone else on the front line suffer for one single second at the hands of cretins like this?
I wrote a short story in which the zombie apocalypse is happening and some people keep insisting it's all a hoax/political stunt. They refuse to barricade themselves in their homes because "I have rights!!" and keep screaming "IT'S ALL FAKE!" even as the zombies eat them alive. No prizes for guessing where I got the idea.
I am at extreme high risk. Diabetic and in remission, very immunocompromised. Older parents are both high risk (age & Diabetic), so hubby, roommate and I were the ones going out when needed. Wore surgical gloves, heavy duty masks and face shield, shoe covers, sanitized everything I touched before buying & again before bringing into the house. Then stripped in the garage, sanitized myself with hand sanitizer & Lysol spray before donning my robe. Clothes into plastic zipper bags sprayed and sealed until washing. Overkill? Maybe, but NOT ONE PERSON IN MY FAMILY HAD COVID!
The poor doctors and nurses should be awarded medals and more for putting up with this s**t. It is a pity these morons who deny can't be rounded up and put on an island to deny to their hearts content.
I don't understand. I get the initial denial of having COVID-its scary! Nobody wants to get it, even the deniers! But u better believe, if I didn't feel well, and went to Dr. -sure, I hope it's something else, but the Dr. says COVID? OK. You are the Dr. I would be calling this man/woman " Sir or Mam- because this person may save my life! Even if I thought COVID was a hoax- I would still need help from this man/woman, because there is still something wrong, right? I would do everything they told me, stand on my head if I had too-They could tell me I had Mickey Mouse disease-can't breathe, is can't breathe, right?! You still receive oxygen- and if they say, oops, we thought it was this, but it's that....you STILL need oxygen. They can still save your life. We should be kissing their ass,instead of hatin on it!
Used to be you couldn't fix stupid. Maybe Covid will take care of that for us, hopefully without killing innocent bystanders.
This was difficult to read, but it's a reminder of how disappointing people can be. There should be consequences.
I'm sorry ( sort of ) but these people needed culled out of the gene pool anyway.
1 - now we know just how easy it is for trump to be elected. There are millions of people out there who think that he’s some sort of god! What in the actual hell? 2 - everyone always says “time to sue!” And does not have a bloody clue what goes into the process.
Just when I thought people can't possibly get any dumber, something like this comes along.
That didn't come out right. Covid makes egocentric people even more egocentric.
Load More Replies...Could it be that the tell-tale high cost of healthcare in the U.S. has contributed to this ingrained 'skepticism'? I mean distrust and the intention to avoid seeing the doctor.
I can't care about the US anymore. There are a huge number of people in India who desperately want to get treated. Let's have an article about India. Or Brazil, whose leader is like Trump on steroids. Or Lithuania! This is a Lithuanian page and yet you have all these articles about the US covid situation but none about yours. And when it comes to the yanks who refuse the vaccine, just ship the vaccines to people who want them.
Denial is a defence mechanism but ironical in situations like these it leads to death
There are over 7 billion people on this earth. Too too many. Wish covid would take out at least 2 billion. Only wish it would take out all the bad people and leave the good ones. It will definitely take out a lot of stupid ones.
so you're saying that doctors who have spent years of their lives studying diseases, and trying to help people "liberal idiots"?
Load More Replies...So, TWO PEOPLE YOU KNOW didn't get hit hard. that's nice. I've held hands for a year now for families and patients in over ONE HUNDRED CASES OF FATAL COVID-19 INFECTION. Please do just nnot decide the world is your tiny tiny experience of it. Yeah, some people don't suffer ------ or don't they? We haev kids who were infected, had no symptoms, coming in with HEART DAMAGE in their early 20s. The cost to the world in Covid fatalities will be nothing compared to the cost in Covid-related long-term health problems. SMH.
Load More Replies...I don't care if I get downvoted, but idiots like these deserve not only covid, but some sort of punishment because their stupidity affects so many others... And something that amazes me, is the fact that 'muricans can refuse to wear a mask. WTF? Where I live, you can't get into any kind of business without a mask. They just don't let you in. period. You wear the fckn mask in the middle of a fckn pandemic, you dipshït.
For me and in this level of stupidity we should let Darwing natural selection take over, and they deny and refuse to go to the hospital...well...do it be...the only problem its the people around them that they going to get it as well and it's not fair...otherwise I would dy let it go ....go my child and never return!
Load More Replies...These are painful to read. The tension between having vowed to help but having people who deem themselves entitled to receiving help yet show no respect at all must be tearing.
We've had two suicides, three attempted, and a sharp increase in alcohol abuse where I am. We're not in a big city, so there are no back-up systems. It's us and that's it. it's demolished us all, emotionally, mentally. I'm at the vax clinic the next few weeks, and that's .... not better than the hospital. random people walk in for the shot, but really to trash the place, scream about god, blah blah blah. We can't even get angry anymore. Too burned out. We just slog through it, brains like heaps of ashes in our skulls.
Load More Replies...Whomever stated at the beginning of all this that "Covid is just like flu" should be forever incarcerated in a solitary cell.
In the United States that person's name is Donald Trump.
Load More Replies...I gave up my career as a healthcare professional because of this. By the time the last unmasked idiot spat at me and told me I was doing Satan's work for asking them to wear a mask, I had been quarantined from my family for 11 weeks. That's 11 weeks of staying in an out room, away from my family, only going to work and back. 11 weeks without touching or being touched by anyone. 11 weeks of consoling my kids through a closed door while they were scared of what was happening. 11 weeks of crying on the phone with my mom, my husband and my best friend. 11 weeks of me sacrificing my mental health, my life to serve the community while keeping my loved ones safe from an inbred OEDIPUS THAT REFUSED TO WEAR A PIECE OF CLOTH OVER HIS MOUTH AND NOSE! And to have the audacity to tell me that I am going to Hell for conforming to regulations! Look around you! THIS IS HELL!!
I'm so sorry about your horrible experience...I'm not cying..yes I am.
Load More Replies...I'm on a different shift volunteering at the hospital right now, and this is my life for a year now. I am not as patient as I was last year. I am not as able to stay calm. Right now I'm "bouncer" at the vax clinic. We tell each other, "Anyone who doesn't get a shot should never get medicare/medicaid or any health insurance ever for Covid-related complications or Covid treatment, b/c we already lost 500K people to these a**holes, let 'em rot." Yeah. Front lines of Covid ------ you're treated like crap by people who demand to be treated like God, and the families.... God save us from the families. "What're you doing to grandpa!" SAVING HIS LIFE AFTER YOUR SUPER_SPREADER EVENT FAMILY PICNIC!!!.... OK, we don't say that to the patient or the families, but when we decompress.... Well, we don't anymore. We're too burned out by this sh*t. So: WEAR YOUR MASK, SOCIAL DISTANCE, STOP COMPLAINING. Your right to go to WalMart does not supersede anyone else's right to LIVE. .... UGH.
My cousin is currently in a rehab hospital learning to walk again after getting COVID. He was a denier and his wife still doesn't believe COVID caused his multiple organ failure that resulted in his inability to walk. Right now, the cousin has zero kidney function, get dialysis daily and stays on oxygen or bi-pap 24/7 in order to keep him alive. The doctors aren't sure what to do with him because his wife has POA and since she doesn't believe he had COVID, she often refuses recommended medical treatment. She has hired a team of attorneys to get to the bottom of what is wrong with him and sue. Oh, he is currently on day 98 of being in the hospital and in the fourth hospital. Since his wife refuses medical treatment for him, the hospitals transfer him out because they can't just have him laying bed. The next step for him is a nursing home and wait for him to die. His father is going to court to get the POA moved from the wife to him.
I read the first ten of these stories, and I had to stop. It got too depressing to realize that so many of our fellow humans are just so...dumb and callous, and the abuse that health care workers have to endure seems endless.
Same. The stupidest conspiracy theory is the one that goes "People are dying of other things and they just put Covid on the death certificate because they get paid more for that." If you ask "Paid more by WHO???" they either don't have an answer or insist that it's some plot by "the liberals".
Load More Replies...Why do people even go to the hospital, then? They're lucky that doctors, nurses, and other medical professionals aren't allowed to turn them away.
Some show up specifically to taunt us, spit, cough, etc., and mock. It's been a real treat. UGH
Load More Replies...I took my mother to the doctor yesterday. I went through three layers of people asking about cough, shortness of breath, etc, and I answered, "No, and we are both fully vaccinated." Before the end of the visit, the doc asked if I had thought about the vaccine. I said, "Not much, since the second shot." She sighed with relief and said that's wonderful. She told us she had to be very careful bringing up the subject because she's gotten yelled at quite a few times. It's not an easy time to be a doctor.
As some have said, the spread of COVID depends on 2 factors: How dense your population is and how dense your population is.
The public does not see the reality of covid. All the pictures of us are typing at a computer. But, you need people's/families permission to film. Show the people on vents with multiple multiple iv infusions etc. In one story on CNN the reporters did go into a covid ICU and film someone who's tube had to be changed because it was blocked. When the MD tossed the old tube on the bed, what yhey did not say is that all that hamburger stuff on the tube was lung tissue that was sloughing off dead. That man was definitely going to die. People should see that. Unfortunately, medicine has not figured out how to fix stupid. After this, I think you will see an exodus of doctors, nurses and RT'S with PTSD and just plain had it. Very sad.
Exodus is beginning wher eI am. Of coures, two went by SUICIDE.... but that's b/c "they were weak".... And, yeah, nobody wants to realize you lungs can become sludge, your heart can be damaged, your immune system will never react properly again.... ARGH.
Load More Replies...I don’t know where all these people got the idea of Covid being fake, but original source of “fake news” should be charged with a felony
One elderly lady from neighborhood refuse to believe that covid is dangerous to young people. (You're young and healthy, what are you afraid of? ) She accused me of lying when I told her that I, young and previously healthy person needed ventilator to survive....
I had to stop reading before the tenth because it was too unfuriating.
Get sick, go to your doctor, she tell you you have a specific disease. Tell her she's full of s**t and go ask your preacher what's wrong with you. The United States of Crazy Stupid White Trash.
I'm an anesthesiologist and In honestly regretting my profession. I have depression and severe anxiety and patients like this don't help at all. I AM SO TIRED!!!
If this is the average in the USA, then there really is no hope I think. All countries have a few nutters, but in the USA it seems to be the silent majority that are the nutters.
Load More Replies...I couldn't read it whole. Me and my same-age friend signed up for our vaccines just yesterday and we are very happy. Today I've seen so many negative comments about the vaccine center in my town - not about it but about the people, that we are sheep, idiots, pity people who will force others to take the vaccine. Please tell me there is hope. I am so angry. I had covid, my partner had it, my buddy lost his dad to it and coughed blood himself... Yet there are people going into tantrum upon mentionin vaccines. WHY????
How can people do this?! I cant understand that mentality. How vastly differently some people view the world. I still go in every year with a ginormous cake for the icu at my local hospital after they spent 6 weeks saving my life repetitively in 2017; I can never repay that debt(I don't mean money we have social healthcare, I mean the above and beyond they did for me that made all the difference .) The only time I was an ass I think was during some of my concious hallucinations (thought they were gna kill me, tried to escape through imaginary doors by unplugging my iv, the usual) and I felt horrible, I apologised to all my nurses. I judt don't understand how someone can be do hateful, so brainwashed, so in danger and dangerous at the same time. Humans can be good, but humanity is awful
I just cannot get my head around people denying proven facts, covid or any other, and call that an opinion that is to be protected as their freely expressable opinion. There are invalid opinions - those contradicting proven facts. The earth is (well, close to) spherical, 4 billion years old, and covid exists. Learn to accept facts - denying then as a political standpoint doesn't lead anywhere. At least not anywhere good...
To me, the refusal to wear a mask is criminal. We should have started with $50 fines for offense 1. $500 for #2 and jail until the pandemic was under control for #3. This was a health risk. It affected others. It's no different than any other form of harming others by your actions. AIDS set the precedent. Get others sick, you do time.
It just beggars belief how wilfully ignorant and plain stupid people can be. Like how do you get to the point that you are yelling "it's a hoax!" with your dying breath? Kinda speechless to be honest.
Two of my classmates last semester got covid. Luckily enough, said class that they were in with me was remote, but ofc I still felt bad for them. The pandemic as of now is very much so still a thing that we need to be careful about. Both of my parents are scientists, and one of them has a doctoral degree in immunology, so our family most certainly does not kid around about covid.
Just let Darwin take his course. Kick out the patients who spit at staff. Why on earth should doctors, nurses, hospital cleaners or anyone else on the front line suffer for one single second at the hands of cretins like this?
I wrote a short story in which the zombie apocalypse is happening and some people keep insisting it's all a hoax/political stunt. They refuse to barricade themselves in their homes because "I have rights!!" and keep screaming "IT'S ALL FAKE!" even as the zombies eat them alive. No prizes for guessing where I got the idea.
I am at extreme high risk. Diabetic and in remission, very immunocompromised. Older parents are both high risk (age & Diabetic), so hubby, roommate and I were the ones going out when needed. Wore surgical gloves, heavy duty masks and face shield, shoe covers, sanitized everything I touched before buying & again before bringing into the house. Then stripped in the garage, sanitized myself with hand sanitizer & Lysol spray before donning my robe. Clothes into plastic zipper bags sprayed and sealed until washing. Overkill? Maybe, but NOT ONE PERSON IN MY FAMILY HAD COVID!
The poor doctors and nurses should be awarded medals and more for putting up with this s**t. It is a pity these morons who deny can't be rounded up and put on an island to deny to their hearts content.
I don't understand. I get the initial denial of having COVID-its scary! Nobody wants to get it, even the deniers! But u better believe, if I didn't feel well, and went to Dr. -sure, I hope it's something else, but the Dr. says COVID? OK. You are the Dr. I would be calling this man/woman " Sir or Mam- because this person may save my life! Even if I thought COVID was a hoax- I would still need help from this man/woman, because there is still something wrong, right? I would do everything they told me, stand on my head if I had too-They could tell me I had Mickey Mouse disease-can't breathe, is can't breathe, right?! You still receive oxygen- and if they say, oops, we thought it was this, but it's that....you STILL need oxygen. They can still save your life. We should be kissing their ass,instead of hatin on it!
Used to be you couldn't fix stupid. Maybe Covid will take care of that for us, hopefully without killing innocent bystanders.
This was difficult to read, but it's a reminder of how disappointing people can be. There should be consequences.
I'm sorry ( sort of ) but these people needed culled out of the gene pool anyway.
1 - now we know just how easy it is for trump to be elected. There are millions of people out there who think that he’s some sort of god! What in the actual hell? 2 - everyone always says “time to sue!” And does not have a bloody clue what goes into the process.
Just when I thought people can't possibly get any dumber, something like this comes along.
That didn't come out right. Covid makes egocentric people even more egocentric.
Load More Replies...Could it be that the tell-tale high cost of healthcare in the U.S. has contributed to this ingrained 'skepticism'? I mean distrust and the intention to avoid seeing the doctor.
I can't care about the US anymore. There are a huge number of people in India who desperately want to get treated. Let's have an article about India. Or Brazil, whose leader is like Trump on steroids. Or Lithuania! This is a Lithuanian page and yet you have all these articles about the US covid situation but none about yours. And when it comes to the yanks who refuse the vaccine, just ship the vaccines to people who want them.
Denial is a defence mechanism but ironical in situations like these it leads to death
There are over 7 billion people on this earth. Too too many. Wish covid would take out at least 2 billion. Only wish it would take out all the bad people and leave the good ones. It will definitely take out a lot of stupid ones.
so you're saying that doctors who have spent years of their lives studying diseases, and trying to help people "liberal idiots"?
Load More Replies...So, TWO PEOPLE YOU KNOW didn't get hit hard. that's nice. I've held hands for a year now for families and patients in over ONE HUNDRED CASES OF FATAL COVID-19 INFECTION. Please do just nnot decide the world is your tiny tiny experience of it. Yeah, some people don't suffer ------ or don't they? We haev kids who were infected, had no symptoms, coming in with HEART DAMAGE in their early 20s. The cost to the world in Covid fatalities will be nothing compared to the cost in Covid-related long-term health problems. SMH.
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