Father Forgot About His Daughter’s Existence After Her Half-Brother Got Cancer, More Than A Decade Later Tries To Reconnect With Her, But She Shuts Him Down
Family relationships are complex. But even more so when there is a fall out or misfortune happens. The aftermath might require professional help to alleviate dealing with it, especially in cases of a loved one’s death. A grief-stricken family has to overcome numerous obstacles to restore some level of stability in their lives. But in certain cases, the change in the relationships is irreversible.
A young woman on Reddit opened up about such an instance. She shared her experience with loss and her terminated relationship with a family member, seeking perspective from the r/AITA community. Under the username u/throwaway_1028585, she described her life after the death of her mother.
She stated that within a few years, her father remarried. That drastically changed the family dynamics. The stepmom pushed too hard on playing the mother’s role, and the dad did not preclude it. Things took a turn for even worse when the newly assembled household endured another loss.
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The redditor opened up about how she fell out with her father and how she reacted to him trying to restore the relationship
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Did he contact OP when her brother died? Nope. He contacted her when he was getting a divorce and didn’t have anyone.
This, completely. His reaching out was as selfish as anything else he did regarding her. She even had to find out secondhand her brother was dead. He couldn't even be bothered to invite her to the funeral. But when *he* needed solace, he expected her to provide it.
Load More Replies...As someone who also have an egotistical, self-centered "father" I can completely understand OPs view and feelings towards their father. It's heartbreaking how long and how far these people can push your limits and STILL expect you to treat them with respect and love simply because they're half of the reason you exists. That's not how it works. You get what you give. And to the peanut gallery that shames OP not only for the PowerPoint, but cutting their dad off: did this hit too close to home? Hmm? Is the mirror too accurate for you? YOU grow up. And start realising that no one owes you anything.
* OP is NTA. Good on you for keeping that log and doing the PowerPoint presentation. Wish I could do something similar to my dad, because he STILL doesn't get it. Even though we (me and my brother) NEVER call, text or visit.
Load More Replies...Remarried within a month? Who even processes a loss in such a short period of time much less plans to marry?
Load More Replies...OP had more than enough reason to set limits with her father. He doesn't deserve them in his life. That being said, I don't see why deliberately causing as much pain as possible was praised so strongly. Hurting people who hurt us just perpetuates the hurt.
I think it helped her process the grief. He could have written her a long sincere apology, but instead he complained that it hurt his feelings. (?)
Load More Replies...He sought out a relationship with his daughter only when it suited him. This sounds roughly like my half-sister 's bio dad. He got in touch with my mom a few years after my sister was born and was basically like "okay, I'm ready to be a father now", fully expecting it to happen. My mom responded with "lol, no, fck you." What is with these neglectful parents thinking their children will have just been on standby this whole time? That's incredibly selfish, not to mention delusional. OP was right to do what she did. He didn't have to all but completely ignore her for ALL of her formative years, but he absolutely did. He's a selfish man who does not deserve a relationship with his daughter because he did absolutely NOTHING to earn it.
HARD NTA. Father, despite going through his own struggles probably, shouldn't have left his daughter in the gutter to deal with these feelings herself. I understand having a deadbeat father who just didn't care. Always made you feel like you were just a backup when things were not going your way. OP has my sympathy and admiration. I'm currently NC with my own father, and she probably said everything I wish I could have said to him.
How dare he....how dare he hide behind family members to contact his daughter only *after* he lost what was *truly important* to him. Disgusting. I would have been a lot colder to him if I were in OP's shoes, but that's just me. If he meets someone new in the future, would he just push his daughter aside again? Probably. He only went through family members to reach out, because he knows he's in the wrong and he most likely figured they could guilt her into taking to him. Good on OP for setting firm boundaries.
I do think that it was unusually cruel to expect a child who's lost their mother in such a manner to call you "mom." That was the first hint that this was starting off wrong. But to selfishly hold on to your daughter while at the same time ignoring her...what would have been the harm in letting her maternal Grandparents raise her? The final straw was not letting her see her brother. Icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned. The father got all of that bad behavior thrown back in his face. He deserved it.
The dad has essentially lost everyone, and now has come crawling back to the daughter. Nope.
So, father abandoned and ignored OP, and also prevented her to spend time with her brother. And he only contacted her when he was getting divorced? No, OP has no obligation to let him back in her life.
Did OP's dad, for one second, not stop to consider how afraid OP was? She lost her mother to Leukemia (aka, cancer) at a young age, and if she loved her half brother, and learned that she was going to lose him for the same reason, did he not F*****G THINK to comfort her at all? I can't imagine how painful that must have been. I've lost my grandmother to cancer, it hurts once, never mind twice. I understand the father wanted to be there for his son, but he could have done that and still been there for his daughter. There was also no reason to cut OP out from being able to see her brother, either. When you're scared of losing someone, you spend as much time as possible with them. I always regret I didn't have time enough with the people I lost. It wasn't fair to deny her that time. What OP did was harsh, but I don't blame her.
Granted, when a child becomes ill, the parents tend to focus on the sick child at to the exclusion of the healthier child(ren). As someone once said, "You're only as happy as your unhappiest child." However, the other kids should not be ignored because they, too, are hurting, which is what OP's father did when his first wife died, then, after having his son by his second wife, and said son also getting cancer. OP had tried to tell him what she needed but was ignored by dad, until she decided to go NC. It was only when he himself needed solace that he decided to reach out to OP, who shared photos of the collages she'd made and put in her journal, finally telling him to go away. He didn't even have the decency to tell her about her half-brother dying so she couldn't attend the funeral, didn't have the chance to mourn him properly. She can't be blamed for not wanting to talk to him, and his relatives have NO right to bug her about it!
OP wasn't brutal at all. She merely gave her father a snap shot of that part of her life that he missed when he was distracted. His grief right now is not caused by any brutality on her part. His grief is over seeing the fruits of his own actions. This should cause him to repent. To change. If one day the OP is able to forgive her father, perhaps she'll discover a totally changed man. Who knows?
She quite literally showed him her feelings and experiences - how is that brutal or vengeful? I hope she finds peace in whatever way is best for her
Load More Replies...This little gal is smart & tough. She's become very self-aware @ a young age. So often people that experience loss, dysfunction, & rejection confuse how they "should" feel with how they actually feel. OP's sussed this out already- excellent! She was completely abandoned by her only living parent, suffered accordingly, & refuses to put herself in that position again...Good Girl! It's not callous or cruel to protect oneself. Perhaps she may contact her father in the future, but that's HER prerogative, no one else's. Oh Honey, I've been there & this is a complete NTA. OP will go far in life🤗
Show him why with art and words from that exact time through present day like a time capsule. It was like many mini candid snapshots of her trauma and reflection on it as it shaped her over time and he deserved to be overwhelmed, not just due to his ignorance, but rather his extreme obliviousness and myopia. It wasn't just that He failed but his failure made her mom a liar and her robbed of hope and identity as a daughter. That's a very visceral and deep felt connection to sever repeatedly over decades. He did the emotional version of cutting without the healing part. It just festered and she only started the healing when she didn't allow him close enough to cut anymore. That means she had to be less authentic and less vulnerable to do that and that's why surviving was a dark time for her. She never wanted to have to heal that way. No kid does. They pray for magical help or parents to just wake up or stumble upon journals and give a c**p.
Load More Replies...The father is a complete asshat and doesn't deserve the time of day. He brought a young girl in the world and basically abandoned her. When the opportunity arose where she could find happiness he shut it down never considering her feelings. He was the adult here but she had to grow up quick. Screw him and I'm glad she didn't hold anything back.
I was also the child with a disabled family member with high support needs - my father. And like, I get that someone with those needs requires a lot of attention and care, and sometimes that can lead to emotional neglect (because the system isn't set up to help families in that position.) But this father didn't even *try*. He didn't even let OP have a relationship with her brother, for god's sake. He got what he deserved.
My heart goes out to both daughter and dad! Both have lost a lot! I pray the hate stops, and does not flow to their next generation! What a legacy to leave!
Load More Replies...One sided,story, the dad probably has a completely different perspective. NTA for cutting him out of her life but the brutality was unnecessary. She could have just walked away and never responded. Outcome is the same but without having to ask if IATA. You are.
As a father, I disagree. If my child cut me out of her life, I'd like to understand why. Not my viewpoint, but hers. I don't think what she did was cruel, but in its own way, it was a kindness. One that hurts, even hurts badly, but he can now understand her perspective, and once he gets over the shock, he can move forward with respecting her wishes. I hope for her own sake, that she can rebuild that relationship, but maybe not, and that's okay too. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to hug my kids.
Load More Replies...If you parents do you wrong.. no matter what the age, it's their responsibility to to fix it. Adult children don't "need to suck it up". You also don't need to " take the high road" or "be the better person". The writer wasn't too harsh. Where were HIS relatives when he ghosted his kid?? Were they advocating for her then with him? If not, they suck too and should ghosted now buy her. Sometimes it's better to be alone than in bad company, especially if it's disguised as your family.
Sounds like OP is the example of how to deal with family trauma in such a mature level at such a young age, it's humbling. You're heart is so pure and loving. If the world could act, even half as pure as you, we'd be better off. What a blessing you are
He’s gutted? Oh suck it up dude. You effected a growing child’s life with your selfish ways. The option was given to let your daughter live with her grandparents yet again your selfishness was the direction you went. As her father you failed her. Please don’t let those “ relatives” make you think your wrong.They probably would like it if it was sugar coated and sweet . But I don’t think he would’ve heard you. I hope that you talk to a professional and get the anger part of this out of your way. It’ll help you in the rest of your life.. i’m by no means am saying you should talk to him in his process but in seeing a professional about it the rest of your life be hung up on it. You won’t wear it on your sleeve. It is a part of you though.
I felt this too growing up. My sister a year younger was sick all the time. They did whatever whenever for her. I was the afterthought. I still have my mom but she is in her 80s now and although my sister takes care of her she doesn't need to know the drama I went through growing up in Archie bunkers house of horrors back then. I'm myself. I rely on myself. I had the darkness and thoughts of not wanting to be here and tried not to on a few occasions. But I'm still here I'm moving forward. That's all op can do. Be true to herself. Make herself happy as she can. The past makes you who you are and if you learn from it and remove the drama your become happy because it's not worth the stress. I hope she becomes and artist and can share her diaries as such to open the world up to how this effects people without them realizing it.
NTA. I wonder if YOU'D been ill, had lost your sight or a leg, if your father would've given you his attention. If so, then the loss of your mother should've counted. That crippled you, and he should've given you the love you needed. He was the only parent you had left, and he should've treasured you as part of the woman he lost. Your dad was probably numb, but should've thought about YOUR needs. What you need to ask yourself is how you'd feel if HE died. Could you go on knowing that you two had never reconciled? If so, then keep living your life without him in it. If not, consider going to counseling with him. I had a serious falling out with my dad years ago, then he had a stroke. I chose to forgive him, and he's spent every day making up for his mistakes. Whatever the case, I hope that YOU are in therapy, because you need that guidance. I wish you the happiness you deserve with your OWN family one day. Bless you, sweetie!
I don't think you do either, because I only seen op and the comments call him half brother, which he his.
Load More Replies...It's sad that he finally contacts you when HE needs comfort during his divorce. 😥
She Definitely is NTA , this entire post is so heartbreaking. What this young woman endured and came out the other side such a strong person. I believe she sent herself to school to be an artist is fantastic and also to have such strength to be clear about what she'll tolerate from family and others is to be applauded. I don't even know this young woman, yet I am so proud of her. She spoke her truth and shared in her pp the reality of her childhood. The fact that this man ( I don't want to use the word -father) Only reached out to her after going through a divorce is disgusting and very telling of his lack of character. Didn't even get in contact with the young lady when her brother passed away is reprehensible. I'm disgusted by this, everything about him is trying to favor pity and attention. Well , you make your bed ... You lie in it. You fail your child so utterly, don't be shocked if they don't want to take care of you when you get old or have a relationship with you at all.
I think you did the right thing!!! So sorry you had to go though all that😢.
NTA. I applaud her approach to the situation. By stating facts about what happened combined with the proof of how she felt through her journaling was a Master's class in "I don't f with you, and kick rocks". She has every right to show all of the family the PowerPoint who has a problem, and I would put them on the hot seat,too. Let them know that what they did was wrong and let them sit with that
Having no real relationship with a father that abandoned me at the age of 2, I can say that for me to harbor this kind of pain to the point of wanting to share it or inflict it isn’t a healthy place to be. I think boiling it down to NTA or AH is a bit shallow. My mother is also an alcoholic, and has caused enormous pain as a result of it. But anything I’ve said or done in an attempt to defend myself or wound back are things I wish I hadn’t because of the place they took me; if she deserved them or not. Same for him. It’s better to live your life and trust your boundaries are for the best and will work. We can be both a******s and not responsible for others assholish behavior. The audience here is really young, and could benefit from understanding life isn’t cut and dry like this.
NTA good job with the PowerPoint let him suffer and tell those family members exactly as someone mentioned above about texting them about what he did
I feel for this girl on a very deep level. I lost my brother and mother, only a year apart. Two very horrific deaths. She needs to stand her ground and he needs to realize his mistakes. If what she said to him "gutted" him as badly as her family states, then clearly he knows he failed. I am no contact with any of my bio family because of various reasons and it has helped me a lot. It still hurts, especially around the holidays and special occasions but it has to be done to keep my mental health in order. She seems like a very strong individual and I praise her for doing what is best for her, regardless of how he feels. She isn't the AH in any form.
I would have done the same thing. He's finally getting a taste of his own medicine - pain and isolation. I mean, it's pretty crappy that only after divorce proceedings did be actually think to reach out. Now that he's totally alone, he chooses his "last lifeline" so to speak, thinking that since you're his flesh and blood, surely you wouldn't turn your back on him. Good for you, standing your ground. Sometimes people need the proof straight in their face, for a good wake up call.
Yeah def nta .i know how that is. My father hmmm..qs i kid i though he was a good man im an adult now and i want nothing to do with him. But dealing with this no i would want to ever see him qgaun. I think what op did was a mature way of doing it. Her father sucked. Its one thing to speending with a kid with cancer but another when your not letting your daughter see her brother. For all he know maybe if the dad had let his daughter spend time with his son he might have been better or at least happier or something . I hope the father thinks long and hard now that he is all alone .
I think her father can't see what's in front of him. You would think that he would hold tightly to his daughter because she might be the only child he will still have if something happened to his son. To push her away, ignore her and not include her in her brother's failing health was beyond unacceptable! He broke her heart, cast her away like trash and now that he won't have anyone wants contact with her is the ultimate slap in the face, punch in the gut and now he got to face himself in his selfishness with the power point. He should come crawling asking for forgiveness instead of running away to lick his wound! Horrible father!
Paul 1) The potential for dishonesty is present in any first-hand account, so it doesn't need any special mention here simply because you disliked the story and wish it ended happier. I err on assuming a story is true until there is evidence to the contrary, because otherwise your doubt accomplishes nothing. 2) Sure, the new year is commonly themed around new beginnings and positive goals. That said, nothing OWES you that experience just because the timing is new year adjacent, especially when you actively choose to read an emotionally charged story. 3) So you're suggesting BP use it's moderation powers to suppress sad stories and boost happy ones? Why not just preferentially read those articles yourself instead of forcing your preference upon everyone else? And if these "AITA rags" are so uninteresting, I again must ask why you specifically made a choice to read it. 4) You're allowed to express your discontent, and I'm allowed to point out how childishly self-centered your reaction seems to me. I own my judgement of your reaction, but you seem blind to your own judgmental attitude. You've heaped criticism on this website for providing you exactly the content you chose to read, then proceeded to judge OP and baselessly accuse her of dishonesty. I'm sorry your year started off poorly, and I hope you realize that it's your own choices that dictate how it will be going forward. No one else is responsible for curating your mood.
As the brother of someone who had cancer when he was 4 years old, I hate OP's father. I'm one of four brothers, and my parents have always loved us equally. Yeah sure, I was jealous of my brother when he got lots of presents from everyone - my mum vividly remembers me angrily/sulkily saying, without understanding the gravity whole situation "I wish I had leukaemia". I mean, I was 6. Looking back, my parents did an amazing job, and thankfully my brother is still alive and very healthy, with two wonderful children of his own. So, that side of thing is different. But my parents never fully pushed us to the side like this man did.
Parents like this will make you out to be an A$$hope to family and friends. And you mean nothing to them until they need you for something-period! I had the same treatment ALL my life with my mother who did everything she could to destroy my happiness and reputation and finally my finances-I survived it and you will too! I wish o had had the foresight to go NC at 24. People like this never get better-but do get worse, so you’ve made the right decision-I’m in my 70s and only recently free of her! Remember-You deserve a good life-it isn’t your fault actions have consequences! & Karma occurs!
Definitely NTA - your dad had an obligation to be there for you (and wasn't), you have no such obligation. That being said; he is your dad, and the only one you will ever get. You may be an adult now; and not need him like you did, but you may find that as an adult you still need him. It's not just about what he needs, but what you need as well. Clearly you still hold alot of resentment toward him for everything that happened; it is completely understandable, but unless you want to live with that resentment forever, you may want to coinsider giving him another chance. You don't need to forgive him to have a relationship with him. In the end, you should do what is best for you, dont worry what other people think.
You're so not the a*****e. He is. This all happened for you at a young age and personally, since you're still alive, I'd say good for you for standing up to him. Keep up the no contact. He doesn't deserve your sympathy
Not sure why the opinion of outsiders matters if you know you’re right. You sound confident of the decision you made and the response you gave to your father’s attempt at ‘reconciliation’. He turned his back on you; you’ve turned your back on him. Now you’re even. Think about it.
But, frankly, MOST people don't have those tools. Most people become hostile when they know they've done wrong. So here's some advice from a total stranger who cut off her mother and reconciled with her dad. First, give it some time. Then choose the family member or friend you trust the most, and ask that person to tell your father, very privately, that you heard about how much your PowerPoint hurt him, that you stand by everything you said in the PowerPoint, but if he wants to write you a letter, you're willing to read it. And here's what I hope you WON'T do: Wait until he dies, and THEN spend the rest of your life wondering WHAT IF. You won't have a Hallmark Movie happy ending. Don't set your heart on that. Take tiny steps and don't let anyone (including your own inner critic) rush you.
I understand your anger too much unfortunately! I don't want to but I hate my birth mother!
I dunno if this is a BP thing, a reddit thing, or a people in general thing, but it really bugs me that this platform uses "step" and "half" relation interchangeably. NO! Step is related by marriage in the same family unit (as opposed to in-laws) and half is related through one parent. I have two step kids. My kids have two half siblings. One father, different mothers. There is a blood connection with halves.... I'm not making light of a step relation but if there's divorce it's kind of understandable if stepparent &/or stepsibling relationships are broken. There's gotta be more to the story if half relationships are severed...
Well in this case the half-brother is dead, so thats a big thing. And OP said she wasnt allowed around him when he started getting very sick so thats also a big part of it. He would have been a minor when she left so no way to communicate without the parents involvement or knowledge so her going NC with them automatically meant with him as well though she said she wished he had lived and they could develop a relationship when he became an adult but that didnt happen. So while it is annoying when people get the 2 mixed up it changes nothing about this particular case.
Load More Replies...You expressed yourself bravely, showed what you went through those horrible years.Your dad saw the truth. He had no defense. It was manipulative that you were approached by others saying dad had been 'gutted' thus you should soften your stance.You were the one gutted. No one should ask you help dad feel ok.I don't know where you are in your life's journey with this. Please let me share. I was in a situation of neglect, abandonment, shamed.The hurt still affected my life, mind, my soul. One year ago, ironically sitting at the funeral of a brave man, something hit me in the gut. I did not know how deeply the pain was still part of my life. I was so tired, felt broken. And now it was time let go of the pain. I will never like him and I don't have too! I won't be able to forget. Now I'm done. It's been good for me. A better place to be. My hope is you are happy, that you live without any thoughts but those you choose. You are in charge. And you clearly are a strong person.
Now that you have been allowed to vent and give him a taste of his own medicine, now you can let go and heal. I hope it brought some closure. He reaped the consequences of his actions, he will have to live with that. He only reach out because he is alone, why didn't he try sooner? Besides his grief, his wife was probably the biggest reason he didn't reach out sooner. She didn't allow him and he didn't know how to get around that. He needs to get his own grief counseling and move on, it's his turn to suck it up. What you did was a creative way to finally be allowed to speak up. Now I hope you are able heal. You have finally been able to speak, you will never forget. But don't let the past continue to destroy you. Continue creating your new life and family. Remember that DNA doesn't make a family, sometimes friends make better families. Continue to grow and heal. As they say being successful is the sweetest revenge. B
PS: Be your best self. If your in counseling, don't stop just yet. Did you ever go to a grief support group? You lost your mother, your father, your brother, your family. That was a lot for a child to go through. All of those losses will forever effect your future. Be kind to yourself.
Load More Replies...Everybody grieves differently, and they both had a lot to grieve over. We are only hearing one side of the story by a dear girl who was severely traumatized by the massive losses in her life. Her dad was going through the same thing. He did not know how to cope. She has two choices here. Carry this anger and bitterness to the grave. Or, seek reconciliation with your father before it is too late. Only one choice will bring her peace.
Why did dad wait years to contact op after her brother died?
Load More Replies...Kind of off-topic but I kept journals for decades. Eventually (in my 50) re-read them & realized I had devoted the lion's share of my time, money, and effort to my only son, for decades. I mentioned it to him, and he replied very hatefully, "You did all those things because YOU wanted to." I hadn't expected gratitude but this was such a slap in the face, not to mention typical of our whole relationship. We're NC for several years, which is a big relief. (His daughter is almost 17 & the joy of my life.) Thanks for letting me vent ...
I mean, he’s not wrong. Without knowing how you mentioned it to him it’s impossible to tell who is the a**hole here. If you in any way tried to guilt trip him about it (which would explain his reply) then it’s a fair enough response. Being a parent involves devoting the lion’s share of your time, money and effort to them, that’s literally what you sign up for. You choose to have a child, they don’t choose to be born. What’s he supposed to do with that information other than feel bad for something literally outside of his control?
Load More Replies...People are stating harsh. I completely disagree. I had an abusive parent and now he wants forgiveness and wants me to be there for him because he is ill. I give my forgiveness, but that does not equate to a relationship to a man who was tremendously abusive, especially to me (3 girls) and was never, never there for me. You fostered no relationship and now I'm the AH because I don't want a relationship with my abuser? No.,
I usually hate these recycled c**p from Reddit BP likes to do now, but this story really broke my heart. I want to hug this girl.
He's only reaching out cuz she's all he has left, EXCEPT he didn't appreciate her or love her when he had the chance. Talk about "reap what you sow." OP is NTA.
NTA. Not EVEN. Father and stepmom, OTOH, are supremely so. So, so sorry for little brother that he did not get to experience his awesome big sister. Maybe in another lifetime.
I wouldn't directly claim the daughter is the A here, but the father certainly wasn't, and the daughter certainly could have been more tolerant of her father's tortured state. They most certainly did not lose the same person, to name one example. She lost a brother she barely knew, while her father lost his other half, and then a piece of himself, both to cancer. What she sent him -- while true -- was the single most cruel thing she could have sent, even without the added chef's kiss of cruelty that was adding the "you failed." I feel for the man, and absolutely understand he wanted to spend what time he had with the doomed child, knowing he would have the rest of his life for the other. The stepmother handling this so attrociously unfortunately meant the daughter was effectively abandoned, which I do understand is painful.... but to weaponise that in a message that can elicit nothing but suicide was unnecessarily vindictive.
I don't CARE how gutted the dad was by the deaths in his life. He had a responsibility of care to his daughter. He could have farmed her out to family, but he enforced her staying with him, and then ignored the hell out of her! This is malignant neglect, and any pain he feels now he has richly earned. What a selfish man.
I don’t say she is an a*****e for telling her father how she feels, but reading her post I detect a lack of empathy that makes me feel that she may be an a*****e generally. In particular, the while ‘I couldn’t be there for my brother cos I was also trying to survive’ sits very poorly with me.
She wasn't allowed to be there for her brother because of her dad. And in this case, her health was more important. Her father cut off contact with her at a young age, and cut off the contact with her brother. After years of dealing with a father that wasn't a father, she had to learn to take care of herself, even though she had her grandparents for help.
Load More Replies...NTA but neither is dad. So many expect parents to be these unwavering all knowing creatures. We have our own pasts. We have our own fears, histories, thoughts, feelings, horrors, etc. We're people. I can't imagine the devastation of losing a young wife to cancer and trying to handle that with a child THEN having a THREE yr old having cancer. I'd probably have crawled under my bed a completely disappeared. The fact that he was even able to function is amazing
My condolences to you for the lost of your love ones. I understand how upset you are with your Father and he could have be depressed as well grief has no expiration date unfortunately it can get tougher I know maybe I time it will be a time of healing and by telling your Father your truth I know being angry seems like a good way of forgetting but keeping it in isnt good it just grows I pray you find peace and one day you can talk to your Father let him know how you felt
I don't think anyone's an AH here. You both lost a very important person, you lost a mom and he lost a wife. With your brother getting cancer, it was kind of a recurring nightmare for you and your dad. In extreme situations like these it's hard to be understanding of others' problems when you are suffering. And when someone is fighting their own hell, they easily lose focus of another's. These kind of extreme situations are the perfect conditions to cause breaks of any relationship, family, marriage, friendships. I'm not saying you're wrong for feeling betrayed and have no reason to be angry, but I do think that the situation presented was as unkind to everyone. I'm sorry for what happened and I hope you all never experience loss again, from death or lack of support when you need it.
NTA because thru your long suffering, he finally gave you an opportunity to respond to your pain. You both chose to respond the your pain horribly. His was not intentional--it's all he had in him, with a dying child (and likely his wife/your stepmother didn't help)--that's a heartbreaking situation. But he was an adult and he did not even choose to seek help in how to be a father to BOTH of his children when one was terminally ill. If you meant to avenge yourself by crushing him, you succeeded. I think (maybe) you meant for him to see the irreparable hurt/damage he did, and let him find the words 'I failed her' himself---that's probably where your family stands. However, unless there's more to the story thru the years, I understand the cut of him 'needing' you now that his son (your half-brother) is gone.
I don't think anyone here ITA. There are two people here processing grief in different ways. Grief is grief, no matter the age. The feelings the OP has are very common when one child is very ill, and the other feels very neglected. I think your father most likely kept you away from your brother and the whole situation to protect you from having to go through the hardships involved with having another member of the family die. The biggest problem here is that the OP says she is getting on with her life. She is not. She is bringing her past to her present and future life. She will never be happy until she forgets about all the emotions that go with the past. She is still living in the past because the hurt was so bad. She needs to process and get rid of all the negative feelings she carries around with herself every day. K think she should see a psychologist to help her rid herself of these past emotions. Once she does that, then she can move forward and finally enjoy her life!
The writers of this article seriously need to do some reading up on what a stepbrother is vs a half-brother (eg her brother was NOT a stepbrother).🙄🤦🏻♀️
As painful as this is to read I imagine living it was worse. NTA but neither is Dad. Grief can blind you. Bad decisions are made. And all that's left is regret. Sounds like the only true AH is cancer. I think when you are ready and only when ready forgiveness will begin. OP feelings are valid. Death can tear a family a part. It's a sad reality. I hope you all find some comfort.
NTA but and hear me out. Maybe, once you have let some time pass consider reaching out. Nothing big. Just like a text here and there or maybe a letter. I'm sure you have a few good memories with "the old man" I had different circumstances but similar situation. People handle grief in different ways. Life is hard but not getting the chance to reconcile is... It's devastating. And not just for the side that seems to be at fault. If you do decide to reach out and it doesn't go anywhere good you can at least say you put in the effort. It's better than thinking "what if" later down the road. At least in my opinion. Either way you do you and live life the way makes you happy.
I know that my comments won't help much, but it sounds to me like everyone, again everyone involved in your immediate family got "hurt" . That being said in my opinion, sounds like your "grandparents" were the one's holding the "answer" and "keys" to the whole scenario! Because they're the ones who knew all along why all this was happening! They knew all about your mom, dad, and stepmother, so there's your answer to why all this took place.
Dear "Throwaway", Everyone on this thread is right, but they're addressing the wrong question: What is the best thing for YOU, starting NOW? Your options are many. I venture to guess that you sent the PowerPoint because you want your father to see your experience clearly. (By contrast, when I walked away from my toxic rage-a-holic borderline mother, I didn't give a &+#$ what she understood about me She wasn't "gutted"--just enraged that she had lost power over me.). The fact that your father is gutted because he wants you back in his life. Your hatred Is about what you wanted--needed--long ago. Remember this wisdom: "The opposite of love is not hate. The opposite of love is indifference.". (Again, when I cut ties with my mother, I didn't hate her. I felt nothing at all for her.) I see you and your father as two people who want love from each other. You may not have the emotional tools to reach across all the years and all the pain. OUT OF SPACE. SEE NEXT POST.
If Dad isn’t a hopeless narcissist he needs to work through grief counseling before he attempts to reach out again. So does the OP. Dad may be stuck in the headspace that tells him if he gets close to anyone they’re going to be lost to him forever. He thought he could put you in a drawer somewhere, maybe to keep you safe from his attention. Even if I’m very wrong it seems like we could all agree that people are just WEIRD. We take the paths of least resistance when we should really put in the time to do our homework. Dad needs to take care to get his messaging right even if it means he unintentionally did a really bad job of dadding. I imagine in a million years his ego has been shielding him from your wrath and pain. He’s probably still hopeless but what if he’s mature enough now to understand the consequences of his actions? Try to keep an open mind if you hear he’s getting help. Honestly, you seem to have dealt realistically with your struggles so you’re way of most of us.
You know… here’s something funny… up in my overhead comment I mentioned that he might be stuck in a weird headspace that tells him anytime he tries to get close to someone he ends up losing them forever. Sure enough… he tried to reach out to you and you basically shut him down forever. Confirmation. Nobody blames you, OP. Even he would likely say he doesn’t blame you (unless he’s a hopeless narcissist). All the best, OP!
Load More Replies...I read the OP's other comments and I seriously doubt if they were told they were the AH they would have accepted it. They are extremely adamant about never wanting contact with their father again, which I can definitely understand, but I feel like this is a situation where therapy would be better than Reddit. I can't imagine what the father or OP went through, each lost someone close to them and losing a child from the same thing as your spouse if something I hope to never comprehend. The OP lost a lot including a part of their life that they will never get back, and while they mention they are on medications, this is much more serious discussion than they should take to Reddit or any social media board who sometimes honestly just want blood or to take in someone else' soap opera.
It does sound like op did go to some sort of therapy. Just a feeling based of how structured and to the point the post is, as well as how op seemed somewhat fine before her dad reached out. It sounds like she's used to talk about her trauma, but I could be wrong. Also therapy doesn't necessarily make you hate someone less, if anything it can make you realize how bad the things that happened to you actually were. Although therapy is never a bad idea
Load More Replies...It sounds as if this couple is only capable of thinking of only one thing at a time. That is how their brains are configured, and the OP kept getting forgotten, but the OP still had a life to live and growing up to do and was deprived. At least the OP didn't die of cancer.
The thing is OP said that the father said hurtful things to her aswell. It wasn’t just about how their brains are configured. Also, if you can’t focus on 2 things at once, you shouldn’t have children.
Load More Replies...Just a thought, I was the opposite; I sat by my sister's side and was adopted. Go away. She is my daughter. When my mom died, I felt all alone; I can relate to you. I am not defending what I assume is your biological father, but he could have received terrible advice from social workers. It's thought that it is not good for the other child who is not sick to be involved with the ill child; this is what is taught to Social workers. Mind you they may have no experience with what you went through. They tell families this is not the other child' problem. I totally disagree with this thought process as the damage, in your case, of a family torn apart by bad advice. You don't know what they told your father; I would find a good therapist and hear your father out through mediation. He lost a child to cancer and a wife to cancer, that is difficult for anyone. He may not have pushed you personally away on purpose, and bad advice from social workers can destroy families. Please hear him out.
He could have made the effort to spend some one-on-one time with her. I doubt any social worker would tell him to ignore her altogether.
Load More Replies...No, 24 is the age of the OP at the time she posted this. She was 7 when her mother died.
Load More Replies...Just a heads-up, only downvote if someone is being offensive or is a bot, not just for expressing an opinion. I think they can get banned?
If someone is being offensive or is a bot they should be reported. The downvote is for when you disagree with the persons opinion.
Load More Replies...I think OP was a bit of an AH. Here are my tips for being less of an AH in this situation. 1) OP shared how she felt without giving him a chance to speak. Either stay no contact, or make sure both sides get a chance to speak. 2) focus on yourself, stick to "I" statements. Don't blame or shame the other person (e.g. "You failed."). Edit: in case it's not clear, here is a summary of my thoughts: OP's feelings are totally valid. What her father did was terrible. OP's best option would have been to stay NC with him instead of giving him that presentation.
I'll meet you in the middle. She could say, "I feel like you failed as a father." I think that uses I statements and allows her to say what she wants
Load More Replies...We all made mistakes. Time heals all wounds. Life is too short. Would you rather spend your remaining time angry or at peace?
I'd rather spend my life with new people I love and care for, and who loves and cares for me than go back to the people who ruined my childhood and gave me permanent mental health problems, who only "cares" when I'm gone and it's convenient for them
Load More Replies...Well... DEPRESSION can cause s person to take their own LIFE despite having loved ones that they would be ABLE to live for if not for the DEPRESSION. I imagine is either like depression or could INCLUDE depression and cause you to not think of others, do things you normally wouldn't do, etc. A lot of comments saying the dad was selfish for not telling the OP about the death of her brother. Maybe there are missing details and he DID try. Or maybe he was so lost and dysfunctional he was in no condition to. And with an impending divorce who knows what all was happening. I think she should TALK to him. Several times. She doesn't have to commit to anything and she could stop at any time. But sad to throw so much away without knowing and UNDERSTANDING the full story!
I do agree with NTA, but I'd probably at least give thean a chance. It has been a long time, after all, and people can change. So I personally would say at least give him a chance to show he's changed.
This person is no better or different than the father he was being a a$$ hole yeas but her response is childish at best maybe one day she will know what its like to not be wanted my her kids and go damn carma is a b***h hey
If your kids don't want you, then that's your fault as the parent. Tighten up.
Load More Replies...Your feelings are understandable. But should we respond with hate to someone's failure and inability to deal with grief by abandoning his daughter's feelings? In the end it can only harm you. Think about times when you are older and your father passes away. And you did not give him the chance to apologize.
Well, this OP has every right to bask in her anger and bitterness and I won't blame her, BUT I can also advise her that anger and bitterness are very expensive indulgences to keep. They will.eat you up because they are an emotional cancer. Forgiveness feels so much better. She doesn't have to continue contact, but letting go of the bitterness will allow her to heal. If she doesn't first do that there will never be anything positive in her life because there will be nothing in her heart and soul that will not be contaminated by it. Trust me, I know that from personal, and very expensive experience.
It's too bad you lost your mom and then your dad made you put up with curella lol not fair too you @ all I'm sorry sucks now your dad wants to be there for you nah bcuz he's in a divorcing situation he shouldn't have been selfish he should have gave you too your grandparents @ least and I'm just saying you do whatever you feel but @ least talk to him over the phone and tell him how you feel get all that off your chest let him hear how he messed up your life and you didn't deserve none of it im saying that as well you go girl more power to you your made of steal your positive and on the right track I'm sorry for everything you went through
You are very well spoken and your feelings are valid. However, you already know that you are an AH. Maybe your father really deserved that nuclear warhead to the face, but you will feel the after effects of the fallout. You are robbing yourself of the opportunity to let your father set right some of what he did wrong. Give you and your dad a chance to find common ground and try again. If he blows it once more, send another nuke.
If hearing the truth is a "nuke" then you deserve to be vaporized by the blast. She doesn't owe him anything; not even a chance to prove he changed or "set right" anything. He had countless chances to change for the better when it would have mattered most and failed to do so. She needs to move on with her life.
Load More Replies...I would not call you the AH, however, I would say you are your father's daughter. By this I mean you are reacting very similarly to the grief you went thru, as he did when he went thru his. Your mom died, he got remarried, you asked for help, he pushed you away. He continued to push you away as his son then got cancer just as your mom did, and shut you out completely. Now he's going thru divorce and has reached out to you. YOU, on the other hand, went thru all the neglect and abandonment as a child. You then pushed HIM away as an adult. When he came to you after starting divorce, you shoved him away again and told him to stay away. I am not saying you are wrong for choosing nc. I'm not saying you're right, either. Only you can decide this. However, I AM saying, you and your father BOTH need intense counseling/therapy in order to learn how to deal with bad situations in a healthy manner. I wish you all the luck and joy in the world, and hope you have a happier life
So...how is removing herself from a very bad situation and refusing to risk putting herself back into that situation not a healthy way of dealing with the bad situation?????? One of the things I learned in counceling was sometimes, the best way to deal with a bad situation was to remove yourself from it.
Load More Replies...The only thing that makes me angry about the replies are the people that said her dad only suffered for a few weeks. He spent years watching his son die, if they think he did not suffer in that they are delusional. I agree its no excuse for neglecting his daughter. It also sounds like step mom was really controlling. After the divorce when he escaped that influence he may have to an extent realized his mistakes and reached out. OP is unable to yet understand that lashing out and hurting her father may feel good for a few moments, but in the long run won't heal her pain at all. I agree that she took too harsh an approach and think both of them should see grief counselors. After having an abusive childhood and losing my first child to miscarriage I can feel compassion for both of them. For in the time her brother was dying her father likely had some nasty depression as well and handled it very, very poorly. Hiding the hurt is often a coping mechanism.
The father first lost his wife and than his son all to cancer their so many things in play. 1. All his attention went to taking care of them before they passed away so they knew someone cared and they were loved and being someone who is terminal it's exhausting for a caregiver who full is consumed taking care of someone. See you lost a mom and brother he lost a wife and son. Also adults being caregivers lost the love of his life and his only son probably destroyed him. Depression can consume someone mentally that they don't see clearly. So you wanting attention while he is morning and depressed and saw them both take their last breathe but now he does try and realize your his own blood left he could have thought he would loose you and can't loose all three of you. But saying you want attention than when he tried you block him out than don't get upset. It's not like he ditched you, your brother and mom. He was there and suffered til their last breath. He gave everything. He tried
That's one hell of a resentment to be carrying around. Only one it's hurting is the OP.
Like many such articles on BP, without hearing all sides to the story it is difficult to comment.
What side do you need to hear? That of the father who just ignored his daughter and told her to "suck it up" when she was a depressed teenager? The same father who refused to let her live with maternal grandparents who could have given her some love and attention?
Load More Replies...Sorry but the OP is, if not also, an a*****e. I have an actual a*****e dad who I don't talk to, but this is a one sided story. I had cancer when I was 3 too. Stage 4, almost died. Still have health issues thanks to chemotherapy. My mum was there the whole time for me and worked (as in cared for me and still maintained the household) and starved herself cause we were on a visa and had little money for food, rent, bulls etc and the right to work. If I had a sibling then, that sibling would no doubt have gotten no attention even if my parents wanted to give all their kids the same amount of attention. It would have been completely impossible for the sibling to get any attention. Completely impossible. I know because my situation demanded so much care, at home or in hospital. It was incredibly hard for my mum because she basically did everything as a single parent, my dad was never around for us. 1/3
2/3 She would stay overnight with me in the hospital in a chair and since there's no money for food, she'd eat a few bites of my hospital food which I could not eat as it made me sick. In her one sided story, maybe the dad is also an a*****e. But we don't know. But I do know that when you have a kid with cancer, it ruins your entire life. You get tunnel vision. There are support groups here for kids who have siblings or even parents with cancer. I now have a perfectly healthy sibling which my dad favours over me any day, but in her case, the OP said her dad reached out to reconnect. Yes it was after his son died (what's a half sibling to her is really a "full" son to him) and after the divorce. But these things take time to start, go through, deal with and you can only do one thing at a time so it was likely that it just happened to be the time he got around to reconnecting with her.
Load More Replies...Forgive. Don't continue this pattern of hurt. I realize this will be unpopular, but it does the mind/body/soul good to move past the pain. I'm not saying forget, but understand this is an opportunity to have the relationship that you've always wanted with your father.
Tbh they both are, I grew up always being second to my older half siblings whose mother and stepfather are great people, add on abuse from full blown addicts i kept functioning. I had people who also would have taken me in if they were aware, but my parents did a lot to block communication when young and then i gave up trying to ask for help due to resent and anger. I had both bio parents treat me like the evil stepmother from Cinderella including typical abuse of addiction. My younger brother also grew up with the addiction abuse but in a different capacity. I tried to shield him and keep us together, instead of being rescued. This was my naive toxic trait. She should have never contacted him period, plus she is just as guilty for abandoning her dying brother just because she was angry with her father. They are the same personality in different stages of grief both wanting to be seen as justified/victim. Op and father need to not get reassured this is good behavior. GET HELP PLEASE!
After all your suffering, you had the opportunity to get it off your heart and head. For your own peace of mind and soul, forgive him. The resentment is only poison for your life. Get rid of it. God bless you
Well he needs to apologize first. And he needs to mean it. And why is it always the victim that needs to forgive? Also, forgiving someone isn't as easy as a lot of people make it out be.
Load More Replies...We live in a sad dark self-righteous world. A world where we expect everyone to forgive us, our bad behavior is the fault of others, we are the victim here. We have a world of Karens. Our troubles and traumas are all that matter. No forgiveness, no try to understand others, no do for others as you would like them to do for you. It's totally okay to remember every fault, every single mispoken word from years ago, and use them as self-righteous weapons to wreak vengeance and destruction today. If it destroys another life? So what they deserved it. Better not treat us like we treat others! If someone treat us like we treat them, we scream they are horrible monsters. We cling to our victim hood and wave our bloody hate filled banners. It's a sad dark pathetic world we live in. No personal honor or valor. No trying to make the world a better place by being the bigger person. We don't settle for being equal, we must prove the other is worthless. We don't seek justice we seek vengeance.
I’m amazed that no one else thinks like me. This is so incredibly sad. Forgiveness is healing. She could work thru all her hate and hurt but instead is letting it all brew. One day he will be dead too. Then it’ll be too late and it’ll be a whole new beast of a burden to carry. I can relate to these hard issues with my own dad, so I’m not unsympathetic. I get it, truly. It’s just so sad, the whole thing. Humankind does terrible things, and we learn and grow. She’s not allowing for change or growth. She’s just holding onto her anger and they’re both suffering because of it. So sad. Hopefully one day they’ll have a chance to work thru it all. Life’s a journey, and it sounds like she’s just not ready.
I'm sorry, but her brother had cancer, she is selfish. You can try to share your time with your other children, but when one kid becomes terminal, you get tunnel vision. Grow up
So she shouldn't be upset that she didn't get attention from her father? She lost everyone in her life but she should be fine with that. Gotcha.
Load More Replies...YTA I think you still see it thru the eyes of a teen.Simply you were jealous. Cause when your brother came along you cease to exist. Babies need constant care. Night & day They we’re sleep deprived & nerves raw. Your half brother (distancing name)got cancer at 3 for Christ sake girl you were a teen. your parents had bills to pay. Go to work. Feed their kids all while suffering thru the worst trauma one can endure. Instead of helping out cooking dinner, doing a load of laundry you were busy being a a*****e teenage girl who was sitting home while your family went to cancer treatment Your bro was 3 must have been terrifying (for your parents too)plus the sheer exhaustion. While you should have been rallying around your brother supporting your father you were loyally “making your page EVERY week “ bitching about poor poor me.”Now“as a adult you use the self absorbed thoughts of a teen to make rude poi You haven’t learned a single thing in life. Your mother would be ashamed. YOU FAIL
Not the AH and is the AH at the same time but not because she hurt his feelings. She lowered herself to his level by acting like him. She did not lose the same people he did, she lost her mother and a brother; he lost his WIFE and his son. My dad told me that when his own mother died he felt like his dad was acting like he was the only one who lost anyone and my grandpa said to him, “ you only lost your mother, I lost my WIFE!” My dad had been married exactly 1 month when his mom died and he didn’t quite get my grandpas attitude at the time but after he and mom were married longer he said he totally understands what my grandpa said and feels it stronger every day. And then after his wife, the OP was in danger of losing a child. Unless you have children you have no idea what it feels like to have a sick child especially that young. I’m not saying the father isn’t an AH, far from it, he failed her in so many ways it’s horrific, but nobody is perfect, he was wrong, the past cannot be chan
Changed but he is trying to make amends. Yes he is still an AH. But OP should move on, quit the grudge (for her own sanity and healing purposes) and start acting like an adult, even if he isn’t. As far as the stepmom goes, what would OP rather she had done instead of trying to be a mom to her? Ignore her? It seems she did (or tried to do) a a thankl as job to somebody who much needed it and resented her for it. I hope OP is never a stepmom to anybody, she won’t be very good at it and will fail to finally see things from another perspective. I understand OP feelings and actions back then but she is an adult now and says she has empathy but I very much don’t believe she does. I hope she gets therapy, she has many many issues and I’m afraid she is not insightful enough to even acknowledge most of them
Load More Replies...Both sides are human but to be honest although I can fully understand OP, to me it sounds like she is being the petty one. Regrettably he did mess up and there is no denying that but no matter what, if your dad has been in a haze for the past 10 years+ and suddenly divorcing is snapping him back to reality where he finally reaches out and tries to connect maybe that’s the chance both of you have been looking for. However OP basically says they don’t give a c**p and that the only reason they don’t want their dad to off themselves is because his family is too worried. Once your point of view of someone else is so warped where you don’t care if they live or die, maybe you OP are the one with the real issues.
Why does the dad get all the patience and understanding in the world for a decade of failure, with the additional glimmer of hope that he's somehow "snapping back to reality" (as though that makes any sense at all given his pattern of behavior), but she's on the chopping block for her "real issues" when all she did was a single interaction where she gave him an honest explanation of her feelings and why she cut him out of her life? If he can't handle reading her journal from when she was a little girl, the. he can't handle being in her life as an adult woman.
Load More Replies...We didn't hear the father's side of the story but many parents keep their kids away from the suffering and death of a loved one to save them from the pain of it. Parents think "my kid is too young to be going through this" and they push them away which comes off as neglect. They think they're doing the right thing, when it makes things worse.
A terrible story to bring in the new year, BP. Nothing is resolved in this. A hurt person who hurt back. Nothing gained, nothing lost - just a zero-sun game of bitterness.
I'm sorry that her real-life trauma that you consciously made a choice to read about didn't quaintly align with your calendar-related entitlement. You should write an article about your suffering.
Load More Replies...I'm more inclined to agree with the last comment by originalkelly88. We are all human and more prone to care about ourselves more than others, especially in times of hardship. We as humans are selfish creatures. But, just because we make mistakes does not mean we are not capable of changing and healing broken relationships. OP has lost trust in her father. The father DID fail in his responsibilities. But before we commenters start pointing fingers, it would be wiser to place ourselves in his shoes. Can we confidently say we would not react the same way he did given the same situation? After all life is full of surprises. If the OP continues in NC, I hope she will heal and find her own happiness. If she decides to slowly allow her father to work for her trust, I hope the two earn good results from their own efforts.
A note I must add. I had a father who neglected me and my brothers for truck driving, drinking and fooling around. I had a step dad who emotionally and physically abused me and my older brother. Through life I learned that forgiveness is not for the sake of the ones doing the wrong, but for the sake of those who were hurt. As long as I continued being angry at them and hating them I continued to let thier actions and attitudes hurt me and control my life and make it miserable even after I no longer saw them. When I learned to forgive I was able to let go of all that and live my life as the person I wanted to be, not the person thier actions tried to turn me into. You can't choose if something will effect your life, but only you can choose how it will effect you. The father daughter relationship with my dad can't be repaired, but I am able to still be friends with him and be happy for him when he did start straightening out his life.
I don’t understand this at all. It breaks my heart for the father. He lost so much and she can’t seem to wrap her mind around the fact that it’s not all about her. I guess my opinion is the unpopular one. Maybe I’m older than everyone else chiming in. Idk. But this is extremely sad.
She lost her mother, dad and brother but we're all supposed to feel bad for the dad? She was a CHILD who never got the attention she deserves from her father. F**k him.
Load More Replies...Hi I am up at 4 am reading your post. So I want to let you know that Jesus is coming soon and that he put it on my heart to write you this. I hope you ALL read it even the commenters. We have ALL suffered emotional, physical neglect in childhood and some of us even abuse. Abuse is never okay . I see your point. But let me tell you I had a horrific childhood full of pain and raised by my dads crack addicted girlfriend and I seen things that no child should see and she did try to take control . Let me tell you I have done everything to hard drugs to leaving the occult and witchcraft and this has been one hard journey but my God Yawheh is my rock, fortress, and strength . I was so mad at my dad , but one thing I had to come to realize is my dad (little girls and boys put the face of their dad on the Lord and vice verse and confuse their parents identity with God ) he is not God. He is a fallen man. However, he brought me into this world and my mother did too. If I can forgive the abuse
Yes, the op is being an AH. You should own it. That doesn't mean your behavior wasn't justified. If someone is a jerk to me and I respond in kind, that doesn't mean I didn't act like a jerk, only that I have a good excuse. You need to heal. Your dad needs to heal. Your dad made some inexcusable mistakes. One day you will make some pretty bad mistakes yourself. I don't mean to justify anything, I am only pointing out that forgiveness helps the person doing the forgiving more than it helps the person being forgiven. The fact that you have completely severed ties is definitely hurting your father, but it may hurt you even more as you carry the grudge for the rest of your life.
Real life isn't a Hallmark movie. Her father didn't reach out until after her brother's funeral and his second wife was divorcing him. Per usual he was just acting out of selfishness; he had never acted in the interest of his daughter's feelings, and he never will. She needed him to leave her alone, and stop rallying their family to harass her into communicating with him, so she told him the truth of why she cut contact. He didn't like the truth, but she bears no responsibility for his reaction. She had already moved on, but he tried to get one final hook in when it was beneficial for him. Now she can finally move on.
Load More Replies...He could have you know.... not alienated her and potentially inform her that her half brother died? Instead of trying to reach out when his new marriage didn't work out? Just desserts. Plus his family is still on his side so how is he down?
Load More Replies...You clearly didn't read the full post. She tried to ask him for help repeatedly (when she was a child) and he told her to "suck it up". She tried to live with other relatives who could be attentive of her existence and he refused to allow it. And her dad was the one that cut off her access to her brother (presumably something related to his illness). She'd finally had enough and moved out when she was old enough to do so. Maybe actually read the full story next time before you dump on someone. Think about that.
Load More Replies...“Sweetpea”? Of course since she’s female you have to call her these effing sexist names.
Load More Replies...There's nothing else to tell. What do you think the dad is going to say? And how do you find her immature? What's deeper?
Load More Replies...Calling someone an AH with no elaboration is a valueless contribution.
Load More Replies...There is a difference between putting your relationship on hold with a child in favor of another child and essentially ignoring them and their problems and focusing most of your time on the sick child. My parents had to put a lot of their time, focus and money towards my brother but they both made it a point to check in with me to ensure I was getting what I needed from them. My father felt horrible he had to cut down on how much time he spent with us. It sounds like this father didn't care about his daughters feelings.
Load More Replies...Did he contact OP when her brother died? Nope. He contacted her when he was getting a divorce and didn’t have anyone.
This, completely. His reaching out was as selfish as anything else he did regarding her. She even had to find out secondhand her brother was dead. He couldn't even be bothered to invite her to the funeral. But when *he* needed solace, he expected her to provide it.
Load More Replies...As someone who also have an egotistical, self-centered "father" I can completely understand OPs view and feelings towards their father. It's heartbreaking how long and how far these people can push your limits and STILL expect you to treat them with respect and love simply because they're half of the reason you exists. That's not how it works. You get what you give. And to the peanut gallery that shames OP not only for the PowerPoint, but cutting their dad off: did this hit too close to home? Hmm? Is the mirror too accurate for you? YOU grow up. And start realising that no one owes you anything.
* OP is NTA. Good on you for keeping that log and doing the PowerPoint presentation. Wish I could do something similar to my dad, because he STILL doesn't get it. Even though we (me and my brother) NEVER call, text or visit.
Load More Replies...Remarried within a month? Who even processes a loss in such a short period of time much less plans to marry?
Load More Replies...OP had more than enough reason to set limits with her father. He doesn't deserve them in his life. That being said, I don't see why deliberately causing as much pain as possible was praised so strongly. Hurting people who hurt us just perpetuates the hurt.
I think it helped her process the grief. He could have written her a long sincere apology, but instead he complained that it hurt his feelings. (?)
Load More Replies...He sought out a relationship with his daughter only when it suited him. This sounds roughly like my half-sister 's bio dad. He got in touch with my mom a few years after my sister was born and was basically like "okay, I'm ready to be a father now", fully expecting it to happen. My mom responded with "lol, no, fck you." What is with these neglectful parents thinking their children will have just been on standby this whole time? That's incredibly selfish, not to mention delusional. OP was right to do what she did. He didn't have to all but completely ignore her for ALL of her formative years, but he absolutely did. He's a selfish man who does not deserve a relationship with his daughter because he did absolutely NOTHING to earn it.
HARD NTA. Father, despite going through his own struggles probably, shouldn't have left his daughter in the gutter to deal with these feelings herself. I understand having a deadbeat father who just didn't care. Always made you feel like you were just a backup when things were not going your way. OP has my sympathy and admiration. I'm currently NC with my own father, and she probably said everything I wish I could have said to him.
How dare he....how dare he hide behind family members to contact his daughter only *after* he lost what was *truly important* to him. Disgusting. I would have been a lot colder to him if I were in OP's shoes, but that's just me. If he meets someone new in the future, would he just push his daughter aside again? Probably. He only went through family members to reach out, because he knows he's in the wrong and he most likely figured they could guilt her into taking to him. Good on OP for setting firm boundaries.
I do think that it was unusually cruel to expect a child who's lost their mother in such a manner to call you "mom." That was the first hint that this was starting off wrong. But to selfishly hold on to your daughter while at the same time ignoring her...what would have been the harm in letting her maternal Grandparents raise her? The final straw was not letting her see her brother. Icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned. The father got all of that bad behavior thrown back in his face. He deserved it.
The dad has essentially lost everyone, and now has come crawling back to the daughter. Nope.
So, father abandoned and ignored OP, and also prevented her to spend time with her brother. And he only contacted her when he was getting divorced? No, OP has no obligation to let him back in her life.
Did OP's dad, for one second, not stop to consider how afraid OP was? She lost her mother to Leukemia (aka, cancer) at a young age, and if she loved her half brother, and learned that she was going to lose him for the same reason, did he not F*****G THINK to comfort her at all? I can't imagine how painful that must have been. I've lost my grandmother to cancer, it hurts once, never mind twice. I understand the father wanted to be there for his son, but he could have done that and still been there for his daughter. There was also no reason to cut OP out from being able to see her brother, either. When you're scared of losing someone, you spend as much time as possible with them. I always regret I didn't have time enough with the people I lost. It wasn't fair to deny her that time. What OP did was harsh, but I don't blame her.
Granted, when a child becomes ill, the parents tend to focus on the sick child at to the exclusion of the healthier child(ren). As someone once said, "You're only as happy as your unhappiest child." However, the other kids should not be ignored because they, too, are hurting, which is what OP's father did when his first wife died, then, after having his son by his second wife, and said son also getting cancer. OP had tried to tell him what she needed but was ignored by dad, until she decided to go NC. It was only when he himself needed solace that he decided to reach out to OP, who shared photos of the collages she'd made and put in her journal, finally telling him to go away. He didn't even have the decency to tell her about her half-brother dying so she couldn't attend the funeral, didn't have the chance to mourn him properly. She can't be blamed for not wanting to talk to him, and his relatives have NO right to bug her about it!
OP wasn't brutal at all. She merely gave her father a snap shot of that part of her life that he missed when he was distracted. His grief right now is not caused by any brutality on her part. His grief is over seeing the fruits of his own actions. This should cause him to repent. To change. If one day the OP is able to forgive her father, perhaps she'll discover a totally changed man. Who knows?
She quite literally showed him her feelings and experiences - how is that brutal or vengeful? I hope she finds peace in whatever way is best for her
Load More Replies...This little gal is smart & tough. She's become very self-aware @ a young age. So often people that experience loss, dysfunction, & rejection confuse how they "should" feel with how they actually feel. OP's sussed this out already- excellent! She was completely abandoned by her only living parent, suffered accordingly, & refuses to put herself in that position again...Good Girl! It's not callous or cruel to protect oneself. Perhaps she may contact her father in the future, but that's HER prerogative, no one else's. Oh Honey, I've been there & this is a complete NTA. OP will go far in life🤗
Show him why with art and words from that exact time through present day like a time capsule. It was like many mini candid snapshots of her trauma and reflection on it as it shaped her over time and he deserved to be overwhelmed, not just due to his ignorance, but rather his extreme obliviousness and myopia. It wasn't just that He failed but his failure made her mom a liar and her robbed of hope and identity as a daughter. That's a very visceral and deep felt connection to sever repeatedly over decades. He did the emotional version of cutting without the healing part. It just festered and she only started the healing when she didn't allow him close enough to cut anymore. That means she had to be less authentic and less vulnerable to do that and that's why surviving was a dark time for her. She never wanted to have to heal that way. No kid does. They pray for magical help or parents to just wake up or stumble upon journals and give a c**p.
Load More Replies...The father is a complete asshat and doesn't deserve the time of day. He brought a young girl in the world and basically abandoned her. When the opportunity arose where she could find happiness he shut it down never considering her feelings. He was the adult here but she had to grow up quick. Screw him and I'm glad she didn't hold anything back.
I was also the child with a disabled family member with high support needs - my father. And like, I get that someone with those needs requires a lot of attention and care, and sometimes that can lead to emotional neglect (because the system isn't set up to help families in that position.) But this father didn't even *try*. He didn't even let OP have a relationship with her brother, for god's sake. He got what he deserved.
My heart goes out to both daughter and dad! Both have lost a lot! I pray the hate stops, and does not flow to their next generation! What a legacy to leave!
Load More Replies...One sided,story, the dad probably has a completely different perspective. NTA for cutting him out of her life but the brutality was unnecessary. She could have just walked away and never responded. Outcome is the same but without having to ask if IATA. You are.
As a father, I disagree. If my child cut me out of her life, I'd like to understand why. Not my viewpoint, but hers. I don't think what she did was cruel, but in its own way, it was a kindness. One that hurts, even hurts badly, but he can now understand her perspective, and once he gets over the shock, he can move forward with respecting her wishes. I hope for her own sake, that she can rebuild that relationship, but maybe not, and that's okay too. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to hug my kids.
Load More Replies...If you parents do you wrong.. no matter what the age, it's their responsibility to to fix it. Adult children don't "need to suck it up". You also don't need to " take the high road" or "be the better person". The writer wasn't too harsh. Where were HIS relatives when he ghosted his kid?? Were they advocating for her then with him? If not, they suck too and should ghosted now buy her. Sometimes it's better to be alone than in bad company, especially if it's disguised as your family.
Sounds like OP is the example of how to deal with family trauma in such a mature level at such a young age, it's humbling. You're heart is so pure and loving. If the world could act, even half as pure as you, we'd be better off. What a blessing you are
He’s gutted? Oh suck it up dude. You effected a growing child’s life with your selfish ways. The option was given to let your daughter live with her grandparents yet again your selfishness was the direction you went. As her father you failed her. Please don’t let those “ relatives” make you think your wrong.They probably would like it if it was sugar coated and sweet . But I don’t think he would’ve heard you. I hope that you talk to a professional and get the anger part of this out of your way. It’ll help you in the rest of your life.. i’m by no means am saying you should talk to him in his process but in seeing a professional about it the rest of your life be hung up on it. You won’t wear it on your sleeve. It is a part of you though.
I felt this too growing up. My sister a year younger was sick all the time. They did whatever whenever for her. I was the afterthought. I still have my mom but she is in her 80s now and although my sister takes care of her she doesn't need to know the drama I went through growing up in Archie bunkers house of horrors back then. I'm myself. I rely on myself. I had the darkness and thoughts of not wanting to be here and tried not to on a few occasions. But I'm still here I'm moving forward. That's all op can do. Be true to herself. Make herself happy as she can. The past makes you who you are and if you learn from it and remove the drama your become happy because it's not worth the stress. I hope she becomes and artist and can share her diaries as such to open the world up to how this effects people without them realizing it.
NTA. I wonder if YOU'D been ill, had lost your sight or a leg, if your father would've given you his attention. If so, then the loss of your mother should've counted. That crippled you, and he should've given you the love you needed. He was the only parent you had left, and he should've treasured you as part of the woman he lost. Your dad was probably numb, but should've thought about YOUR needs. What you need to ask yourself is how you'd feel if HE died. Could you go on knowing that you two had never reconciled? If so, then keep living your life without him in it. If not, consider going to counseling with him. I had a serious falling out with my dad years ago, then he had a stroke. I chose to forgive him, and he's spent every day making up for his mistakes. Whatever the case, I hope that YOU are in therapy, because you need that guidance. I wish you the happiness you deserve with your OWN family one day. Bless you, sweetie!
I don't think you do either, because I only seen op and the comments call him half brother, which he his.
Load More Replies...It's sad that he finally contacts you when HE needs comfort during his divorce. 😥
She Definitely is NTA , this entire post is so heartbreaking. What this young woman endured and came out the other side such a strong person. I believe she sent herself to school to be an artist is fantastic and also to have such strength to be clear about what she'll tolerate from family and others is to be applauded. I don't even know this young woman, yet I am so proud of her. She spoke her truth and shared in her pp the reality of her childhood. The fact that this man ( I don't want to use the word -father) Only reached out to her after going through a divorce is disgusting and very telling of his lack of character. Didn't even get in contact with the young lady when her brother passed away is reprehensible. I'm disgusted by this, everything about him is trying to favor pity and attention. Well , you make your bed ... You lie in it. You fail your child so utterly, don't be shocked if they don't want to take care of you when you get old or have a relationship with you at all.
I think you did the right thing!!! So sorry you had to go though all that😢.
NTA. I applaud her approach to the situation. By stating facts about what happened combined with the proof of how she felt through her journaling was a Master's class in "I don't f with you, and kick rocks". She has every right to show all of the family the PowerPoint who has a problem, and I would put them on the hot seat,too. Let them know that what they did was wrong and let them sit with that
Having no real relationship with a father that abandoned me at the age of 2, I can say that for me to harbor this kind of pain to the point of wanting to share it or inflict it isn’t a healthy place to be. I think boiling it down to NTA or AH is a bit shallow. My mother is also an alcoholic, and has caused enormous pain as a result of it. But anything I’ve said or done in an attempt to defend myself or wound back are things I wish I hadn’t because of the place they took me; if she deserved them or not. Same for him. It’s better to live your life and trust your boundaries are for the best and will work. We can be both a******s and not responsible for others assholish behavior. The audience here is really young, and could benefit from understanding life isn’t cut and dry like this.
NTA good job with the PowerPoint let him suffer and tell those family members exactly as someone mentioned above about texting them about what he did
I feel for this girl on a very deep level. I lost my brother and mother, only a year apart. Two very horrific deaths. She needs to stand her ground and he needs to realize his mistakes. If what she said to him "gutted" him as badly as her family states, then clearly he knows he failed. I am no contact with any of my bio family because of various reasons and it has helped me a lot. It still hurts, especially around the holidays and special occasions but it has to be done to keep my mental health in order. She seems like a very strong individual and I praise her for doing what is best for her, regardless of how he feels. She isn't the AH in any form.
I would have done the same thing. He's finally getting a taste of his own medicine - pain and isolation. I mean, it's pretty crappy that only after divorce proceedings did be actually think to reach out. Now that he's totally alone, he chooses his "last lifeline" so to speak, thinking that since you're his flesh and blood, surely you wouldn't turn your back on him. Good for you, standing your ground. Sometimes people need the proof straight in their face, for a good wake up call.
Yeah def nta .i know how that is. My father hmmm..qs i kid i though he was a good man im an adult now and i want nothing to do with him. But dealing with this no i would want to ever see him qgaun. I think what op did was a mature way of doing it. Her father sucked. Its one thing to speending with a kid with cancer but another when your not letting your daughter see her brother. For all he know maybe if the dad had let his daughter spend time with his son he might have been better or at least happier or something . I hope the father thinks long and hard now that he is all alone .
I think her father can't see what's in front of him. You would think that he would hold tightly to his daughter because she might be the only child he will still have if something happened to his son. To push her away, ignore her and not include her in her brother's failing health was beyond unacceptable! He broke her heart, cast her away like trash and now that he won't have anyone wants contact with her is the ultimate slap in the face, punch in the gut and now he got to face himself in his selfishness with the power point. He should come crawling asking for forgiveness instead of running away to lick his wound! Horrible father!
Paul 1) The potential for dishonesty is present in any first-hand account, so it doesn't need any special mention here simply because you disliked the story and wish it ended happier. I err on assuming a story is true until there is evidence to the contrary, because otherwise your doubt accomplishes nothing. 2) Sure, the new year is commonly themed around new beginnings and positive goals. That said, nothing OWES you that experience just because the timing is new year adjacent, especially when you actively choose to read an emotionally charged story. 3) So you're suggesting BP use it's moderation powers to suppress sad stories and boost happy ones? Why not just preferentially read those articles yourself instead of forcing your preference upon everyone else? And if these "AITA rags" are so uninteresting, I again must ask why you specifically made a choice to read it. 4) You're allowed to express your discontent, and I'm allowed to point out how childishly self-centered your reaction seems to me. I own my judgement of your reaction, but you seem blind to your own judgmental attitude. You've heaped criticism on this website for providing you exactly the content you chose to read, then proceeded to judge OP and baselessly accuse her of dishonesty. I'm sorry your year started off poorly, and I hope you realize that it's your own choices that dictate how it will be going forward. No one else is responsible for curating your mood.
As the brother of someone who had cancer when he was 4 years old, I hate OP's father. I'm one of four brothers, and my parents have always loved us equally. Yeah sure, I was jealous of my brother when he got lots of presents from everyone - my mum vividly remembers me angrily/sulkily saying, without understanding the gravity whole situation "I wish I had leukaemia". I mean, I was 6. Looking back, my parents did an amazing job, and thankfully my brother is still alive and very healthy, with two wonderful children of his own. So, that side of thing is different. But my parents never fully pushed us to the side like this man did.
Parents like this will make you out to be an A$$hope to family and friends. And you mean nothing to them until they need you for something-period! I had the same treatment ALL my life with my mother who did everything she could to destroy my happiness and reputation and finally my finances-I survived it and you will too! I wish o had had the foresight to go NC at 24. People like this never get better-but do get worse, so you’ve made the right decision-I’m in my 70s and only recently free of her! Remember-You deserve a good life-it isn’t your fault actions have consequences! & Karma occurs!
Definitely NTA - your dad had an obligation to be there for you (and wasn't), you have no such obligation. That being said; he is your dad, and the only one you will ever get. You may be an adult now; and not need him like you did, but you may find that as an adult you still need him. It's not just about what he needs, but what you need as well. Clearly you still hold alot of resentment toward him for everything that happened; it is completely understandable, but unless you want to live with that resentment forever, you may want to coinsider giving him another chance. You don't need to forgive him to have a relationship with him. In the end, you should do what is best for you, dont worry what other people think.
You're so not the a*****e. He is. This all happened for you at a young age and personally, since you're still alive, I'd say good for you for standing up to him. Keep up the no contact. He doesn't deserve your sympathy
Not sure why the opinion of outsiders matters if you know you’re right. You sound confident of the decision you made and the response you gave to your father’s attempt at ‘reconciliation’. He turned his back on you; you’ve turned your back on him. Now you’re even. Think about it.
But, frankly, MOST people don't have those tools. Most people become hostile when they know they've done wrong. So here's some advice from a total stranger who cut off her mother and reconciled with her dad. First, give it some time. Then choose the family member or friend you trust the most, and ask that person to tell your father, very privately, that you heard about how much your PowerPoint hurt him, that you stand by everything you said in the PowerPoint, but if he wants to write you a letter, you're willing to read it. And here's what I hope you WON'T do: Wait until he dies, and THEN spend the rest of your life wondering WHAT IF. You won't have a Hallmark Movie happy ending. Don't set your heart on that. Take tiny steps and don't let anyone (including your own inner critic) rush you.
I understand your anger too much unfortunately! I don't want to but I hate my birth mother!
I dunno if this is a BP thing, a reddit thing, or a people in general thing, but it really bugs me that this platform uses "step" and "half" relation interchangeably. NO! Step is related by marriage in the same family unit (as opposed to in-laws) and half is related through one parent. I have two step kids. My kids have two half siblings. One father, different mothers. There is a blood connection with halves.... I'm not making light of a step relation but if there's divorce it's kind of understandable if stepparent &/or stepsibling relationships are broken. There's gotta be more to the story if half relationships are severed...
Well in this case the half-brother is dead, so thats a big thing. And OP said she wasnt allowed around him when he started getting very sick so thats also a big part of it. He would have been a minor when she left so no way to communicate without the parents involvement or knowledge so her going NC with them automatically meant with him as well though she said she wished he had lived and they could develop a relationship when he became an adult but that didnt happen. So while it is annoying when people get the 2 mixed up it changes nothing about this particular case.
Load More Replies...You expressed yourself bravely, showed what you went through those horrible years.Your dad saw the truth. He had no defense. It was manipulative that you were approached by others saying dad had been 'gutted' thus you should soften your stance.You were the one gutted. No one should ask you help dad feel ok.I don't know where you are in your life's journey with this. Please let me share. I was in a situation of neglect, abandonment, shamed.The hurt still affected my life, mind, my soul. One year ago, ironically sitting at the funeral of a brave man, something hit me in the gut. I did not know how deeply the pain was still part of my life. I was so tired, felt broken. And now it was time let go of the pain. I will never like him and I don't have too! I won't be able to forget. Now I'm done. It's been good for me. A better place to be. My hope is you are happy, that you live without any thoughts but those you choose. You are in charge. And you clearly are a strong person.
Now that you have been allowed to vent and give him a taste of his own medicine, now you can let go and heal. I hope it brought some closure. He reaped the consequences of his actions, he will have to live with that. He only reach out because he is alone, why didn't he try sooner? Besides his grief, his wife was probably the biggest reason he didn't reach out sooner. She didn't allow him and he didn't know how to get around that. He needs to get his own grief counseling and move on, it's his turn to suck it up. What you did was a creative way to finally be allowed to speak up. Now I hope you are able heal. You have finally been able to speak, you will never forget. But don't let the past continue to destroy you. Continue creating your new life and family. Remember that DNA doesn't make a family, sometimes friends make better families. Continue to grow and heal. As they say being successful is the sweetest revenge. B
PS: Be your best self. If your in counseling, don't stop just yet. Did you ever go to a grief support group? You lost your mother, your father, your brother, your family. That was a lot for a child to go through. All of those losses will forever effect your future. Be kind to yourself.
Load More Replies...Everybody grieves differently, and they both had a lot to grieve over. We are only hearing one side of the story by a dear girl who was severely traumatized by the massive losses in her life. Her dad was going through the same thing. He did not know how to cope. She has two choices here. Carry this anger and bitterness to the grave. Or, seek reconciliation with your father before it is too late. Only one choice will bring her peace.
Why did dad wait years to contact op after her brother died?
Load More Replies...Kind of off-topic but I kept journals for decades. Eventually (in my 50) re-read them & realized I had devoted the lion's share of my time, money, and effort to my only son, for decades. I mentioned it to him, and he replied very hatefully, "You did all those things because YOU wanted to." I hadn't expected gratitude but this was such a slap in the face, not to mention typical of our whole relationship. We're NC for several years, which is a big relief. (His daughter is almost 17 & the joy of my life.) Thanks for letting me vent ...
I mean, he’s not wrong. Without knowing how you mentioned it to him it’s impossible to tell who is the a**hole here. If you in any way tried to guilt trip him about it (which would explain his reply) then it’s a fair enough response. Being a parent involves devoting the lion’s share of your time, money and effort to them, that’s literally what you sign up for. You choose to have a child, they don’t choose to be born. What’s he supposed to do with that information other than feel bad for something literally outside of his control?
Load More Replies...People are stating harsh. I completely disagree. I had an abusive parent and now he wants forgiveness and wants me to be there for him because he is ill. I give my forgiveness, but that does not equate to a relationship to a man who was tremendously abusive, especially to me (3 girls) and was never, never there for me. You fostered no relationship and now I'm the AH because I don't want a relationship with my abuser? No.,
I usually hate these recycled c**p from Reddit BP likes to do now, but this story really broke my heart. I want to hug this girl.
He's only reaching out cuz she's all he has left, EXCEPT he didn't appreciate her or love her when he had the chance. Talk about "reap what you sow." OP is NTA.
NTA. Not EVEN. Father and stepmom, OTOH, are supremely so. So, so sorry for little brother that he did not get to experience his awesome big sister. Maybe in another lifetime.
I wouldn't directly claim the daughter is the A here, but the father certainly wasn't, and the daughter certainly could have been more tolerant of her father's tortured state. They most certainly did not lose the same person, to name one example. She lost a brother she barely knew, while her father lost his other half, and then a piece of himself, both to cancer. What she sent him -- while true -- was the single most cruel thing she could have sent, even without the added chef's kiss of cruelty that was adding the "you failed." I feel for the man, and absolutely understand he wanted to spend what time he had with the doomed child, knowing he would have the rest of his life for the other. The stepmother handling this so attrociously unfortunately meant the daughter was effectively abandoned, which I do understand is painful.... but to weaponise that in a message that can elicit nothing but suicide was unnecessarily vindictive.
I don't CARE how gutted the dad was by the deaths in his life. He had a responsibility of care to his daughter. He could have farmed her out to family, but he enforced her staying with him, and then ignored the hell out of her! This is malignant neglect, and any pain he feels now he has richly earned. What a selfish man.
I don’t say she is an a*****e for telling her father how she feels, but reading her post I detect a lack of empathy that makes me feel that she may be an a*****e generally. In particular, the while ‘I couldn’t be there for my brother cos I was also trying to survive’ sits very poorly with me.
She wasn't allowed to be there for her brother because of her dad. And in this case, her health was more important. Her father cut off contact with her at a young age, and cut off the contact with her brother. After years of dealing with a father that wasn't a father, she had to learn to take care of herself, even though she had her grandparents for help.
Load More Replies...NTA but neither is dad. So many expect parents to be these unwavering all knowing creatures. We have our own pasts. We have our own fears, histories, thoughts, feelings, horrors, etc. We're people. I can't imagine the devastation of losing a young wife to cancer and trying to handle that with a child THEN having a THREE yr old having cancer. I'd probably have crawled under my bed a completely disappeared. The fact that he was even able to function is amazing
My condolences to you for the lost of your love ones. I understand how upset you are with your Father and he could have be depressed as well grief has no expiration date unfortunately it can get tougher I know maybe I time it will be a time of healing and by telling your Father your truth I know being angry seems like a good way of forgetting but keeping it in isnt good it just grows I pray you find peace and one day you can talk to your Father let him know how you felt
I don't think anyone's an AH here. You both lost a very important person, you lost a mom and he lost a wife. With your brother getting cancer, it was kind of a recurring nightmare for you and your dad. In extreme situations like these it's hard to be understanding of others' problems when you are suffering. And when someone is fighting their own hell, they easily lose focus of another's. These kind of extreme situations are the perfect conditions to cause breaks of any relationship, family, marriage, friendships. I'm not saying you're wrong for feeling betrayed and have no reason to be angry, but I do think that the situation presented was as unkind to everyone. I'm sorry for what happened and I hope you all never experience loss again, from death or lack of support when you need it.
NTA because thru your long suffering, he finally gave you an opportunity to respond to your pain. You both chose to respond the your pain horribly. His was not intentional--it's all he had in him, with a dying child (and likely his wife/your stepmother didn't help)--that's a heartbreaking situation. But he was an adult and he did not even choose to seek help in how to be a father to BOTH of his children when one was terminally ill. If you meant to avenge yourself by crushing him, you succeeded. I think (maybe) you meant for him to see the irreparable hurt/damage he did, and let him find the words 'I failed her' himself---that's probably where your family stands. However, unless there's more to the story thru the years, I understand the cut of him 'needing' you now that his son (your half-brother) is gone.
I don't think anyone here ITA. There are two people here processing grief in different ways. Grief is grief, no matter the age. The feelings the OP has are very common when one child is very ill, and the other feels very neglected. I think your father most likely kept you away from your brother and the whole situation to protect you from having to go through the hardships involved with having another member of the family die. The biggest problem here is that the OP says she is getting on with her life. She is not. She is bringing her past to her present and future life. She will never be happy until she forgets about all the emotions that go with the past. She is still living in the past because the hurt was so bad. She needs to process and get rid of all the negative feelings she carries around with herself every day. K think she should see a psychologist to help her rid herself of these past emotions. Once she does that, then she can move forward and finally enjoy her life!
The writers of this article seriously need to do some reading up on what a stepbrother is vs a half-brother (eg her brother was NOT a stepbrother).🙄🤦🏻♀️
As painful as this is to read I imagine living it was worse. NTA but neither is Dad. Grief can blind you. Bad decisions are made. And all that's left is regret. Sounds like the only true AH is cancer. I think when you are ready and only when ready forgiveness will begin. OP feelings are valid. Death can tear a family a part. It's a sad reality. I hope you all find some comfort.
NTA but and hear me out. Maybe, once you have let some time pass consider reaching out. Nothing big. Just like a text here and there or maybe a letter. I'm sure you have a few good memories with "the old man" I had different circumstances but similar situation. People handle grief in different ways. Life is hard but not getting the chance to reconcile is... It's devastating. And not just for the side that seems to be at fault. If you do decide to reach out and it doesn't go anywhere good you can at least say you put in the effort. It's better than thinking "what if" later down the road. At least in my opinion. Either way you do you and live life the way makes you happy.
I know that my comments won't help much, but it sounds to me like everyone, again everyone involved in your immediate family got "hurt" . That being said in my opinion, sounds like your "grandparents" were the one's holding the "answer" and "keys" to the whole scenario! Because they're the ones who knew all along why all this was happening! They knew all about your mom, dad, and stepmother, so there's your answer to why all this took place.
Dear "Throwaway", Everyone on this thread is right, but they're addressing the wrong question: What is the best thing for YOU, starting NOW? Your options are many. I venture to guess that you sent the PowerPoint because you want your father to see your experience clearly. (By contrast, when I walked away from my toxic rage-a-holic borderline mother, I didn't give a &+#$ what she understood about me She wasn't "gutted"--just enraged that she had lost power over me.). The fact that your father is gutted because he wants you back in his life. Your hatred Is about what you wanted--needed--long ago. Remember this wisdom: "The opposite of love is not hate. The opposite of love is indifference.". (Again, when I cut ties with my mother, I didn't hate her. I felt nothing at all for her.) I see you and your father as two people who want love from each other. You may not have the emotional tools to reach across all the years and all the pain. OUT OF SPACE. SEE NEXT POST.
If Dad isn’t a hopeless narcissist he needs to work through grief counseling before he attempts to reach out again. So does the OP. Dad may be stuck in the headspace that tells him if he gets close to anyone they’re going to be lost to him forever. He thought he could put you in a drawer somewhere, maybe to keep you safe from his attention. Even if I’m very wrong it seems like we could all agree that people are just WEIRD. We take the paths of least resistance when we should really put in the time to do our homework. Dad needs to take care to get his messaging right even if it means he unintentionally did a really bad job of dadding. I imagine in a million years his ego has been shielding him from your wrath and pain. He’s probably still hopeless but what if he’s mature enough now to understand the consequences of his actions? Try to keep an open mind if you hear he’s getting help. Honestly, you seem to have dealt realistically with your struggles so you’re way of most of us.
You know… here’s something funny… up in my overhead comment I mentioned that he might be stuck in a weird headspace that tells him anytime he tries to get close to someone he ends up losing them forever. Sure enough… he tried to reach out to you and you basically shut him down forever. Confirmation. Nobody blames you, OP. Even he would likely say he doesn’t blame you (unless he’s a hopeless narcissist). All the best, OP!
Load More Replies...I read the OP's other comments and I seriously doubt if they were told they were the AH they would have accepted it. They are extremely adamant about never wanting contact with their father again, which I can definitely understand, but I feel like this is a situation where therapy would be better than Reddit. I can't imagine what the father or OP went through, each lost someone close to them and losing a child from the same thing as your spouse if something I hope to never comprehend. The OP lost a lot including a part of their life that they will never get back, and while they mention they are on medications, this is much more serious discussion than they should take to Reddit or any social media board who sometimes honestly just want blood or to take in someone else' soap opera.
It does sound like op did go to some sort of therapy. Just a feeling based of how structured and to the point the post is, as well as how op seemed somewhat fine before her dad reached out. It sounds like she's used to talk about her trauma, but I could be wrong. Also therapy doesn't necessarily make you hate someone less, if anything it can make you realize how bad the things that happened to you actually were. Although therapy is never a bad idea
Load More Replies...It sounds as if this couple is only capable of thinking of only one thing at a time. That is how their brains are configured, and the OP kept getting forgotten, but the OP still had a life to live and growing up to do and was deprived. At least the OP didn't die of cancer.
The thing is OP said that the father said hurtful things to her aswell. It wasn’t just about how their brains are configured. Also, if you can’t focus on 2 things at once, you shouldn’t have children.
Load More Replies...Just a thought, I was the opposite; I sat by my sister's side and was adopted. Go away. She is my daughter. When my mom died, I felt all alone; I can relate to you. I am not defending what I assume is your biological father, but he could have received terrible advice from social workers. It's thought that it is not good for the other child who is not sick to be involved with the ill child; this is what is taught to Social workers. Mind you they may have no experience with what you went through. They tell families this is not the other child' problem. I totally disagree with this thought process as the damage, in your case, of a family torn apart by bad advice. You don't know what they told your father; I would find a good therapist and hear your father out through mediation. He lost a child to cancer and a wife to cancer, that is difficult for anyone. He may not have pushed you personally away on purpose, and bad advice from social workers can destroy families. Please hear him out.
He could have made the effort to spend some one-on-one time with her. I doubt any social worker would tell him to ignore her altogether.
Load More Replies...No, 24 is the age of the OP at the time she posted this. She was 7 when her mother died.
Load More Replies...Just a heads-up, only downvote if someone is being offensive or is a bot, not just for expressing an opinion. I think they can get banned?
If someone is being offensive or is a bot they should be reported. The downvote is for when you disagree with the persons opinion.
Load More Replies...I think OP was a bit of an AH. Here are my tips for being less of an AH in this situation. 1) OP shared how she felt without giving him a chance to speak. Either stay no contact, or make sure both sides get a chance to speak. 2) focus on yourself, stick to "I" statements. Don't blame or shame the other person (e.g. "You failed."). Edit: in case it's not clear, here is a summary of my thoughts: OP's feelings are totally valid. What her father did was terrible. OP's best option would have been to stay NC with him instead of giving him that presentation.
I'll meet you in the middle. She could say, "I feel like you failed as a father." I think that uses I statements and allows her to say what she wants
Load More Replies...We all made mistakes. Time heals all wounds. Life is too short. Would you rather spend your remaining time angry or at peace?
I'd rather spend my life with new people I love and care for, and who loves and cares for me than go back to the people who ruined my childhood and gave me permanent mental health problems, who only "cares" when I'm gone and it's convenient for them
Load More Replies...Well... DEPRESSION can cause s person to take their own LIFE despite having loved ones that they would be ABLE to live for if not for the DEPRESSION. I imagine is either like depression or could INCLUDE depression and cause you to not think of others, do things you normally wouldn't do, etc. A lot of comments saying the dad was selfish for not telling the OP about the death of her brother. Maybe there are missing details and he DID try. Or maybe he was so lost and dysfunctional he was in no condition to. And with an impending divorce who knows what all was happening. I think she should TALK to him. Several times. She doesn't have to commit to anything and she could stop at any time. But sad to throw so much away without knowing and UNDERSTANDING the full story!
I do agree with NTA, but I'd probably at least give thean a chance. It has been a long time, after all, and people can change. So I personally would say at least give him a chance to show he's changed.
This person is no better or different than the father he was being a a$$ hole yeas but her response is childish at best maybe one day she will know what its like to not be wanted my her kids and go damn carma is a b***h hey
If your kids don't want you, then that's your fault as the parent. Tighten up.
Load More Replies...Your feelings are understandable. But should we respond with hate to someone's failure and inability to deal with grief by abandoning his daughter's feelings? In the end it can only harm you. Think about times when you are older and your father passes away. And you did not give him the chance to apologize.
Well, this OP has every right to bask in her anger and bitterness and I won't blame her, BUT I can also advise her that anger and bitterness are very expensive indulgences to keep. They will.eat you up because they are an emotional cancer. Forgiveness feels so much better. She doesn't have to continue contact, but letting go of the bitterness will allow her to heal. If she doesn't first do that there will never be anything positive in her life because there will be nothing in her heart and soul that will not be contaminated by it. Trust me, I know that from personal, and very expensive experience.
It's too bad you lost your mom and then your dad made you put up with curella lol not fair too you @ all I'm sorry sucks now your dad wants to be there for you nah bcuz he's in a divorcing situation he shouldn't have been selfish he should have gave you too your grandparents @ least and I'm just saying you do whatever you feel but @ least talk to him over the phone and tell him how you feel get all that off your chest let him hear how he messed up your life and you didn't deserve none of it im saying that as well you go girl more power to you your made of steal your positive and on the right track I'm sorry for everything you went through
You are very well spoken and your feelings are valid. However, you already know that you are an AH. Maybe your father really deserved that nuclear warhead to the face, but you will feel the after effects of the fallout. You are robbing yourself of the opportunity to let your father set right some of what he did wrong. Give you and your dad a chance to find common ground and try again. If he blows it once more, send another nuke.
If hearing the truth is a "nuke" then you deserve to be vaporized by the blast. She doesn't owe him anything; not even a chance to prove he changed or "set right" anything. He had countless chances to change for the better when it would have mattered most and failed to do so. She needs to move on with her life.
Load More Replies...I would not call you the AH, however, I would say you are your father's daughter. By this I mean you are reacting very similarly to the grief you went thru, as he did when he went thru his. Your mom died, he got remarried, you asked for help, he pushed you away. He continued to push you away as his son then got cancer just as your mom did, and shut you out completely. Now he's going thru divorce and has reached out to you. YOU, on the other hand, went thru all the neglect and abandonment as a child. You then pushed HIM away as an adult. When he came to you after starting divorce, you shoved him away again and told him to stay away. I am not saying you are wrong for choosing nc. I'm not saying you're right, either. Only you can decide this. However, I AM saying, you and your father BOTH need intense counseling/therapy in order to learn how to deal with bad situations in a healthy manner. I wish you all the luck and joy in the world, and hope you have a happier life
So...how is removing herself from a very bad situation and refusing to risk putting herself back into that situation not a healthy way of dealing with the bad situation?????? One of the things I learned in counceling was sometimes, the best way to deal with a bad situation was to remove yourself from it.
Load More Replies...The only thing that makes me angry about the replies are the people that said her dad only suffered for a few weeks. He spent years watching his son die, if they think he did not suffer in that they are delusional. I agree its no excuse for neglecting his daughter. It also sounds like step mom was really controlling. After the divorce when he escaped that influence he may have to an extent realized his mistakes and reached out. OP is unable to yet understand that lashing out and hurting her father may feel good for a few moments, but in the long run won't heal her pain at all. I agree that she took too harsh an approach and think both of them should see grief counselors. After having an abusive childhood and losing my first child to miscarriage I can feel compassion for both of them. For in the time her brother was dying her father likely had some nasty depression as well and handled it very, very poorly. Hiding the hurt is often a coping mechanism.
The father first lost his wife and than his son all to cancer their so many things in play. 1. All his attention went to taking care of them before they passed away so they knew someone cared and they were loved and being someone who is terminal it's exhausting for a caregiver who full is consumed taking care of someone. See you lost a mom and brother he lost a wife and son. Also adults being caregivers lost the love of his life and his only son probably destroyed him. Depression can consume someone mentally that they don't see clearly. So you wanting attention while he is morning and depressed and saw them both take their last breathe but now he does try and realize your his own blood left he could have thought he would loose you and can't loose all three of you. But saying you want attention than when he tried you block him out than don't get upset. It's not like he ditched you, your brother and mom. He was there and suffered til their last breath. He gave everything. He tried
That's one hell of a resentment to be carrying around. Only one it's hurting is the OP.
Like many such articles on BP, without hearing all sides to the story it is difficult to comment.
What side do you need to hear? That of the father who just ignored his daughter and told her to "suck it up" when she was a depressed teenager? The same father who refused to let her live with maternal grandparents who could have given her some love and attention?
Load More Replies...Sorry but the OP is, if not also, an a*****e. I have an actual a*****e dad who I don't talk to, but this is a one sided story. I had cancer when I was 3 too. Stage 4, almost died. Still have health issues thanks to chemotherapy. My mum was there the whole time for me and worked (as in cared for me and still maintained the household) and starved herself cause we were on a visa and had little money for food, rent, bulls etc and the right to work. If I had a sibling then, that sibling would no doubt have gotten no attention even if my parents wanted to give all their kids the same amount of attention. It would have been completely impossible for the sibling to get any attention. Completely impossible. I know because my situation demanded so much care, at home or in hospital. It was incredibly hard for my mum because she basically did everything as a single parent, my dad was never around for us. 1/3
2/3 She would stay overnight with me in the hospital in a chair and since there's no money for food, she'd eat a few bites of my hospital food which I could not eat as it made me sick. In her one sided story, maybe the dad is also an a*****e. But we don't know. But I do know that when you have a kid with cancer, it ruins your entire life. You get tunnel vision. There are support groups here for kids who have siblings or even parents with cancer. I now have a perfectly healthy sibling which my dad favours over me any day, but in her case, the OP said her dad reached out to reconnect. Yes it was after his son died (what's a half sibling to her is really a "full" son to him) and after the divorce. But these things take time to start, go through, deal with and you can only do one thing at a time so it was likely that it just happened to be the time he got around to reconnecting with her.
Load More Replies...Forgive. Don't continue this pattern of hurt. I realize this will be unpopular, but it does the mind/body/soul good to move past the pain. I'm not saying forget, but understand this is an opportunity to have the relationship that you've always wanted with your father.
Tbh they both are, I grew up always being second to my older half siblings whose mother and stepfather are great people, add on abuse from full blown addicts i kept functioning. I had people who also would have taken me in if they were aware, but my parents did a lot to block communication when young and then i gave up trying to ask for help due to resent and anger. I had both bio parents treat me like the evil stepmother from Cinderella including typical abuse of addiction. My younger brother also grew up with the addiction abuse but in a different capacity. I tried to shield him and keep us together, instead of being rescued. This was my naive toxic trait. She should have never contacted him period, plus she is just as guilty for abandoning her dying brother just because she was angry with her father. They are the same personality in different stages of grief both wanting to be seen as justified/victim. Op and father need to not get reassured this is good behavior. GET HELP PLEASE!
After all your suffering, you had the opportunity to get it off your heart and head. For your own peace of mind and soul, forgive him. The resentment is only poison for your life. Get rid of it. God bless you
Well he needs to apologize first. And he needs to mean it. And why is it always the victim that needs to forgive? Also, forgiving someone isn't as easy as a lot of people make it out be.
Load More Replies...We live in a sad dark self-righteous world. A world where we expect everyone to forgive us, our bad behavior is the fault of others, we are the victim here. We have a world of Karens. Our troubles and traumas are all that matter. No forgiveness, no try to understand others, no do for others as you would like them to do for you. It's totally okay to remember every fault, every single mispoken word from years ago, and use them as self-righteous weapons to wreak vengeance and destruction today. If it destroys another life? So what they deserved it. Better not treat us like we treat others! If someone treat us like we treat them, we scream they are horrible monsters. We cling to our victim hood and wave our bloody hate filled banners. It's a sad dark pathetic world we live in. No personal honor or valor. No trying to make the world a better place by being the bigger person. We don't settle for being equal, we must prove the other is worthless. We don't seek justice we seek vengeance.
I’m amazed that no one else thinks like me. This is so incredibly sad. Forgiveness is healing. She could work thru all her hate and hurt but instead is letting it all brew. One day he will be dead too. Then it’ll be too late and it’ll be a whole new beast of a burden to carry. I can relate to these hard issues with my own dad, so I’m not unsympathetic. I get it, truly. It’s just so sad, the whole thing. Humankind does terrible things, and we learn and grow. She’s not allowing for change or growth. She’s just holding onto her anger and they’re both suffering because of it. So sad. Hopefully one day they’ll have a chance to work thru it all. Life’s a journey, and it sounds like she’s just not ready.
I'm sorry, but her brother had cancer, she is selfish. You can try to share your time with your other children, but when one kid becomes terminal, you get tunnel vision. Grow up
So she shouldn't be upset that she didn't get attention from her father? She lost everyone in her life but she should be fine with that. Gotcha.
Load More Replies...YTA I think you still see it thru the eyes of a teen.Simply you were jealous. Cause when your brother came along you cease to exist. Babies need constant care. Night & day They we’re sleep deprived & nerves raw. Your half brother (distancing name)got cancer at 3 for Christ sake girl you were a teen. your parents had bills to pay. Go to work. Feed their kids all while suffering thru the worst trauma one can endure. Instead of helping out cooking dinner, doing a load of laundry you were busy being a a*****e teenage girl who was sitting home while your family went to cancer treatment Your bro was 3 must have been terrifying (for your parents too)plus the sheer exhaustion. While you should have been rallying around your brother supporting your father you were loyally “making your page EVERY week “ bitching about poor poor me.”Now“as a adult you use the self absorbed thoughts of a teen to make rude poi You haven’t learned a single thing in life. Your mother would be ashamed. YOU FAIL
Not the AH and is the AH at the same time but not because she hurt his feelings. She lowered herself to his level by acting like him. She did not lose the same people he did, she lost her mother and a brother; he lost his WIFE and his son. My dad told me that when his own mother died he felt like his dad was acting like he was the only one who lost anyone and my grandpa said to him, “ you only lost your mother, I lost my WIFE!” My dad had been married exactly 1 month when his mom died and he didn’t quite get my grandpas attitude at the time but after he and mom were married longer he said he totally understands what my grandpa said and feels it stronger every day. And then after his wife, the OP was in danger of losing a child. Unless you have children you have no idea what it feels like to have a sick child especially that young. I’m not saying the father isn’t an AH, far from it, he failed her in so many ways it’s horrific, but nobody is perfect, he was wrong, the past cannot be chan
Changed but he is trying to make amends. Yes he is still an AH. But OP should move on, quit the grudge (for her own sanity and healing purposes) and start acting like an adult, even if he isn’t. As far as the stepmom goes, what would OP rather she had done instead of trying to be a mom to her? Ignore her? It seems she did (or tried to do) a a thankl as job to somebody who much needed it and resented her for it. I hope OP is never a stepmom to anybody, she won’t be very good at it and will fail to finally see things from another perspective. I understand OP feelings and actions back then but she is an adult now and says she has empathy but I very much don’t believe she does. I hope she gets therapy, she has many many issues and I’m afraid she is not insightful enough to even acknowledge most of them
Load More Replies...Both sides are human but to be honest although I can fully understand OP, to me it sounds like she is being the petty one. Regrettably he did mess up and there is no denying that but no matter what, if your dad has been in a haze for the past 10 years+ and suddenly divorcing is snapping him back to reality where he finally reaches out and tries to connect maybe that’s the chance both of you have been looking for. However OP basically says they don’t give a c**p and that the only reason they don’t want their dad to off themselves is because his family is too worried. Once your point of view of someone else is so warped where you don’t care if they live or die, maybe you OP are the one with the real issues.
Why does the dad get all the patience and understanding in the world for a decade of failure, with the additional glimmer of hope that he's somehow "snapping back to reality" (as though that makes any sense at all given his pattern of behavior), but she's on the chopping block for her "real issues" when all she did was a single interaction where she gave him an honest explanation of her feelings and why she cut him out of her life? If he can't handle reading her journal from when she was a little girl, the. he can't handle being in her life as an adult woman.
Load More Replies...We didn't hear the father's side of the story but many parents keep their kids away from the suffering and death of a loved one to save them from the pain of it. Parents think "my kid is too young to be going through this" and they push them away which comes off as neglect. They think they're doing the right thing, when it makes things worse.
A terrible story to bring in the new year, BP. Nothing is resolved in this. A hurt person who hurt back. Nothing gained, nothing lost - just a zero-sun game of bitterness.
I'm sorry that her real-life trauma that you consciously made a choice to read about didn't quaintly align with your calendar-related entitlement. You should write an article about your suffering.
Load More Replies...I'm more inclined to agree with the last comment by originalkelly88. We are all human and more prone to care about ourselves more than others, especially in times of hardship. We as humans are selfish creatures. But, just because we make mistakes does not mean we are not capable of changing and healing broken relationships. OP has lost trust in her father. The father DID fail in his responsibilities. But before we commenters start pointing fingers, it would be wiser to place ourselves in his shoes. Can we confidently say we would not react the same way he did given the same situation? After all life is full of surprises. If the OP continues in NC, I hope she will heal and find her own happiness. If she decides to slowly allow her father to work for her trust, I hope the two earn good results from their own efforts.
A note I must add. I had a father who neglected me and my brothers for truck driving, drinking and fooling around. I had a step dad who emotionally and physically abused me and my older brother. Through life I learned that forgiveness is not for the sake of the ones doing the wrong, but for the sake of those who were hurt. As long as I continued being angry at them and hating them I continued to let thier actions and attitudes hurt me and control my life and make it miserable even after I no longer saw them. When I learned to forgive I was able to let go of all that and live my life as the person I wanted to be, not the person thier actions tried to turn me into. You can't choose if something will effect your life, but only you can choose how it will effect you. The father daughter relationship with my dad can't be repaired, but I am able to still be friends with him and be happy for him when he did start straightening out his life.
I don’t understand this at all. It breaks my heart for the father. He lost so much and she can’t seem to wrap her mind around the fact that it’s not all about her. I guess my opinion is the unpopular one. Maybe I’m older than everyone else chiming in. Idk. But this is extremely sad.
She lost her mother, dad and brother but we're all supposed to feel bad for the dad? She was a CHILD who never got the attention she deserves from her father. F**k him.
Load More Replies...Hi I am up at 4 am reading your post. So I want to let you know that Jesus is coming soon and that he put it on my heart to write you this. I hope you ALL read it even the commenters. We have ALL suffered emotional, physical neglect in childhood and some of us even abuse. Abuse is never okay . I see your point. But let me tell you I had a horrific childhood full of pain and raised by my dads crack addicted girlfriend and I seen things that no child should see and she did try to take control . Let me tell you I have done everything to hard drugs to leaving the occult and witchcraft and this has been one hard journey but my God Yawheh is my rock, fortress, and strength . I was so mad at my dad , but one thing I had to come to realize is my dad (little girls and boys put the face of their dad on the Lord and vice verse and confuse their parents identity with God ) he is not God. He is a fallen man. However, he brought me into this world and my mother did too. If I can forgive the abuse
Yes, the op is being an AH. You should own it. That doesn't mean your behavior wasn't justified. If someone is a jerk to me and I respond in kind, that doesn't mean I didn't act like a jerk, only that I have a good excuse. You need to heal. Your dad needs to heal. Your dad made some inexcusable mistakes. One day you will make some pretty bad mistakes yourself. I don't mean to justify anything, I am only pointing out that forgiveness helps the person doing the forgiving more than it helps the person being forgiven. The fact that you have completely severed ties is definitely hurting your father, but it may hurt you even more as you carry the grudge for the rest of your life.
Real life isn't a Hallmark movie. Her father didn't reach out until after her brother's funeral and his second wife was divorcing him. Per usual he was just acting out of selfishness; he had never acted in the interest of his daughter's feelings, and he never will. She needed him to leave her alone, and stop rallying their family to harass her into communicating with him, so she told him the truth of why she cut contact. He didn't like the truth, but she bears no responsibility for his reaction. She had already moved on, but he tried to get one final hook in when it was beneficial for him. Now she can finally move on.
Load More Replies...He could have you know.... not alienated her and potentially inform her that her half brother died? Instead of trying to reach out when his new marriage didn't work out? Just desserts. Plus his family is still on his side so how is he down?
Load More Replies...You clearly didn't read the full post. She tried to ask him for help repeatedly (when she was a child) and he told her to "suck it up". She tried to live with other relatives who could be attentive of her existence and he refused to allow it. And her dad was the one that cut off her access to her brother (presumably something related to his illness). She'd finally had enough and moved out when she was old enough to do so. Maybe actually read the full story next time before you dump on someone. Think about that.
Load More Replies...“Sweetpea”? Of course since she’s female you have to call her these effing sexist names.
Load More Replies...There's nothing else to tell. What do you think the dad is going to say? And how do you find her immature? What's deeper?
Load More Replies...Calling someone an AH with no elaboration is a valueless contribution.
Load More Replies...There is a difference between putting your relationship on hold with a child in favor of another child and essentially ignoring them and their problems and focusing most of your time on the sick child. My parents had to put a lot of their time, focus and money towards my brother but they both made it a point to check in with me to ensure I was getting what I needed from them. My father felt horrible he had to cut down on how much time he spent with us. It sounds like this father didn't care about his daughters feelings.
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