“Am I The Jerk For Leaving Significant Facial Scarring Uncovered On A Plane And Being Confrontational When Asked To Cover It?”
Skin is a seamless organ. It’s like a fine cloth protecting your valuable assets. But that means that one small tear can make a big difference in the way it looks. Surgery, burns, injuries, or other traumas can cause a scar.
And one Reddit post by a user with a now-suspended account vividly illustrates just how difficult life can be by “wearing” one. In it, the woman recalls a particularly unpleasant flight during which a nearby seated child started making a scene because of the unusual mark on her face.
Unsure about the way she handled the situation, the Redditor shared the experience with the platform’s ‘Am I the [Jerk]?‘ community, asking for its members’ unbiased opinions.
This woman went through a lot and will remain with a scar on her face for the rest of her life
Image credits: Mortal Engines (not the actual photo)
And her online confession shows just how insensitive people can be about it
Image credits: Jeffry Surianto (not the actual photo)
“I said, ‘This is my face. The only … [one] I’ve got”
Image credits: Yan Krukov (not the actual photo)
Image credits: f**keduppface
There are different types of scars. They may appear flat, lumpy, sunken, or colored, and may be painful or itchy. The final look depends on many factors, including the skin type and location on the body, the direction of the wound, the type of injury, the age of the person, and their nutritional status.
Research, just like this Reddit post, shows that visible scars can have a profound effect on self-confidence, regardless of the original cause. For example, there was a study published in the Journal of Plastic Reconstructive & Aesthetic Surgery that sought to determine how skin scars affect a person’s quality of life.
Researchers gathered data from thirty-four patients with a wide range of scar types, severity, and onset. They collected 573 statements related to need impairment by skin scars, which were classified into 44 themes covering five main areas:
- Physical comfort and functioning;
- Acceptability to self and others;
- Social functioning;
- Confidence in the nature and management of the condition;
- Emotional wellbeing.
“The majority of respondents were unhappy with their scar’s appearance due to their perceived stigma and psychological associations, and thus adopted different coping behaviors to hide or compensate for them,” the authors of the study said. “Often this made them unsociable and interfered with their communication skills, personal relationships, work life, and leisure activities.”
So instead of demanding that people with scars retreat into the shadows to “protect” their children, maybe they should teach the young ones empathy instead?
People were furious with the father and said she did absolutely nothing wrong
These AITA questions are seriously just people trying to tell a story of something they've gone through. They know they aren't TA, they just wanna post about an experience. This is one of those.
And BP keeps picking these again and again. There are actually interesting, controversial ones on AITA, but due to some reason, it's always these ones they pick. Oh, and BP, it's ÀSSHOLE, not jerk. It's literally the title of the f*cking subreddit they're pulling these stories from, yet they're too stuck-up-their-ásses to call it by its name. 🙄
Load More Replies...Wait til you see BP necro and repost their OWN articles from a year or two ago. The best part? The article will show up on the “Latest” list as if it’s newly published, and it’ll give a publication time like “posted 45 minutes ago”, but the COMMENTS will be from the original post a year etc ago. I made an a*s of myself replying to someone’s year-old comment before I realized that the whole article was a zombified post.
Load More Replies...It would also help if the film industry wouldn't be so damn lazy and always be like "this person is the villain and we can't be bothered to come up with some decent backstory, so let's just make them ugly, disfigured, disabled or at least give them a very visible scar". Looking at you Disney with Scar from Lion King, the Bond movies with Dr. No (no hands), LeChiffre (cries blood because his tear ducts don't work right), Raoul Julia and Lyutsifer Safin (both have a disfigured face), Emilio Largo (eye patch), Victor "Renard" Zokas (facial injury due to headshot)
You’re right. It’s really dehumanising to be treated as some kind of villain, or ‘other’ for things you already feel self conscious about. When I was a kid I had extremely severe eczema and it was horrible how many people (adults included) who treated me like some sort of leper or zombie because I had bad skin lesions and scabs (no open wounds or anything, just raw new or inflamed skin). It made me not want to go out anywhere, but I couldn’t avoid school, so I developed really bad self esteem around my skin because people were weird about it. And Disney doesn’t seem to care, even when they get massive backlash, such as the recent ‘Witches’ film that caused great offence to people with limb differences and hand disabilities or disfigurements
Load More Replies...My doctor told me to keep it uncovered. He/She also told me to tell you to take two of these 🖕🖕 and call him/her in the morning.
I think it's an important point that the people in this story are a young woman and a man twice her age. So often men in this situation feel they can just tell the woman what to do. "Smile!" "Cover up!" "Show some skin!" "Come over here!" It's almost like they think it's their duty to boss women around.
What's truly scary is that this child has a father with such an intolerant attitude.
A few people are doubting the authenticity of this story. I think it's quite plausible due to the number of responses from others who've had similar experiences. The part that really stood out to me was that this is a young woman traveling alone who was approached by a much older man demanding that she change her appearance to appease HIS feelings. These types of exchanges happen every day to women and girls everywhere in the world and are part of the constant misogynistic microaggressions that come with living in a female body. "You should smile more", "You're wearing THAT?", "she looks so much better without all that makeup"... If she's in her early 20s then he is between 40-50 years old! She hasn't lived long enough to know that she was absolutely NTA here. I wouldn't have at that age, girls are trained to be nice, to not offend or talk back, and all sorts of societal BS that takes YEARS of lived experience to deprogram. I'm proud of her for standing up for herself.
People can be extremely rude and insensitive. The majority aren't but never fails running into one of those jerks. Best thing to do is either ignore them or straight up tell them to mind their own business. After cancer treatment and losing all my hair except for my eyebrows and eyelashes I was left pretty damn insecure. It was a battle won but I couldn't help the way I felt. I had to run to town with my mom to get some things for the the house that I hadn't felt like dealing with when an old lady that was less than a foot away started whispering about the way I looked. I ignored until I got the impression that she wanted me to hear what she was saying. The one that got me was "he should have stayed home looking like that.He doesn't look well at all." I told her that I liked the uncle Fester look and it was none of her business what I or anyone else looked like. It wasn't a big deal but folks love to give their 2 cents when it isn't welcomed. Everyone is beautiful in their own way.😘
Wow, what a tool. My father knew a guy whose nose was amputated due to skin cancer, and one day he went to the shop and forgot to wear his prosthetic. A kid was staring at him, and the mother leaned over to him and said "that's what happens if you pick your nose!" Noseless guy had a good laugh and told everyone about it at work the next day.
Are people so absolutely insensitive and mean that they would say that to a woman? my faith in humanity just keeps dwindling down and down and down....
Yes. They are. That's not even the ceuelest people can be.
Load More Replies...I have a scar on my forehead when my ex hit me over the head with a bottle and split the skin; I also have a scar on my neck where I had a basal cell carcinoma removed it was about the size of my thumb. I have self-harming scars on my inner right forearm, and I'm planning to get a tattoo to accentuate it; I have battled many demons and I wear my scars with pride.
I'm a wheelchair user, and have also been totally bald due to treatment and people do stare and sometimes make really unkind or unthoughtful comments. It hurts. I try to talk to kids to try to teach them as often the parents haven't/don't. It doesn't stop hurting but I guess you learn to life with it. I try to focus on all the really positive interactions I have but it isn't always easy.
IMO, OP had EXACTLY the right response to the guy complaining, and hopefully he learned from it.
Not the a*s, ever! Is society so inured to people and their scars and problems that he had no compassion, it makes me worry about the future! You will always be beautiful, and now, you will be fiercely beautiful.
When I was 6 years old my family moved from the Midwest to the West Coast. I was picking up nuts and bolts that fell during moving at the back of our moving truck. It was a long truck and I was small. A disfigured man from the care home next door said hi to me from the door of the truck. I let a out a bloodcurdling scream worthy of any horror film. I don't really remember anything else except that at first I cried because I was scared and then I cried because I scared him and maybe made him feel bad.
Being only 6yo, in a strange place and totally caught unaware... that's totally understandable. And different from OP's experience w/the bad dad. You're NTA!!!
Load More Replies...If anyone has a fresh healing wound that will eventually scar in a couple of months, start using coconut oil and cocoa butter. It will reduce the amount of scar you will have. It also works on pregnant women with stretch marks. I've used it for a large scar I have from a gall bladder operation from 33 years ago. It is gradually fading although the differences in tissue thickness is still obvious but harder to see now.
I used Bio-Oil on my scars, fresh and old. Made a big difference to both. (Stretch marks too)
Load More Replies...I recently got a scar on my face after an accident. I was paying with sticks with my younger cousin and a piece of a bigger stick hit me in the face. Once I explained it my friends realized that that’s where the scar came from and it was kinda noticeable. Told me it looked fine and looked kinda cool. I’m not sorry that I was just having fun with my cousin and mistakes just happen. You deserve people like that in your life
Wow, that guy took a great opportunity to teach his kid about f*****g MANNERS and instead chose to teach his kid how to be an A*****E
God no. I have severe eczema and hear comments from people who should know better all the time, most recently yesterday. I met my work colleagues partner for the first time and he made comments. It's fine, he's a d**k. I'm just glad he let me know he's a d**k before I made any effort in getting to know him and now have an excuse not to meet up with him in the future. People will always be arseholes.
I was "diagnosed" with psoriasis, excema, dermatitis, etc...etal. I kept telling the "Drs" that it wasn't and Every. Single. Medicine. made it sooooo much worse but they refused to believe me until I almost died yet AGAIN and got to a new Doctor who listened to me and discovered that I have SJS (Steven Johnson Syndrome, brace yourself if you Google it) and AGEP (Acute Generalized Exanthematous Pustulosis). Kathleen Robertson ARNP saved my life when those men "drs" nearly killed me to keep their kick-back$ coming. Not saying it's everyone's cause, but stopping all meds cleared & rebooted my system and saved my life & sanity. They actually kept giving me MORE meds for the "side effects" from the original ones, compounding the damage 🤦🤦♀️🤦♂️
Load More Replies...NTA. And the general rule is: People telling other people how to look like or what to wear are always the a*****e. Always!
As a person that harbours a lot of scars on his body the words I would have had with this guy would have made him cry. Apparently I'm pretty good at that.
Definitely NTA. He should have explained to his son that a scare or any deformation is not the living heaven and those who live with stigmas are humans just like us.
Honestly you will have it the rest of your life. And hopefully the image and interacting you had with the man and child will be with them too for theirs and remind them to be nicer. Kick a*s scar but sorry the injury happened but you're still here. A guy at work got a smaller gash in his forehead. And stitches and it's noticeable. I asked what happened as he pointed it out. Something like he fell. I said next time say it was a shark. It's funnier. And he was laughing like crazy. Our bodies are a road map of how we lived. You can't hide some of it but you can own it. Let it make you stronger and accept the support from people. And hey being known as the girl with the scar actually sounds cool as heck. Like a spy or adventurer.
This stinks of BS... the whole thing seems totally contrived, like it's been written for a high school English assignment - or that could just be me ;)
It's just you. This sort of thing happens ALL THE TIME to people who have scars. You should hear some of the insensitive c**p that's been said to my aunt, who has only one leg. Last time I saw her, some A*****E told her to "get out of the chair and stop attention-seeking." For saying "excuse me, I need to get past, could you move your cart to the side." SHE VISIBLY HAS JUST ONE LEG.
Load More Replies...I'm not even a f*****g parent, but it's obvious that none of you have ever tried to convince a preschooler to stop having a tantrum, on an airplane (or ever had a conversation with a four year old about monsters or anything of the sort.) A bright red wound that's only beginning to heal is not the same thing as a healed, closed scar.
My name is Iningo Montoya and a man with 10 fingers on his right hand gave me these scars. Prepare to die!
Well done for saying that. That guy was a f*****g c**t and teaching his kid to be a c**t too.
ANYONE WHO SAYS YOU ARE THE AH IS AN AH!!! THAT GUY WAS HORRIBLE. GOOD FOR YOU FOR LISTENING TO YOUR DERMATOLOGIST!!!
Seriously... parents being afraid to just explain or ask a question.... kids just want info! What happened to your face.... well a lion bit me!!! Kid that's pretty cool. Moving on.....
I had my left leg amputated in 2003. I always wear shorts in the summer. Kids are fascinated with it and I usually tell them that I am part Terminator. Adults will ask me questions especially if they know someone who might lose a limb. Questions are always welcomed.
You are, are who you are so get with it. the rest of us just f**k it up. As we always do!!!
Society has gone to hell in a handbasket. To many self-centered, uneducated idiots walking around thinking they are entitled.
Compassion for the situation but it’s stupid and insincere to ask if you’re the AH in this situation. She knew she wasn’t.
The kid was 4 years old and no idea. The dad got distressed because his kid got scared and that needed to be fixed. This is a parent thing. The girl with the scar was hurt in several ways and the situation might have felt very unsafe. So she reacts in her way to it in a stressed manor.
Anyway, everybody got stressed out. In my opinion, the adults should have realised the situation was not a usual one and should have reacted in a more sympathetic matter. If the kid was made to understand, by all adults involved, that the situation wasn't scary at all, then there would have been no problem.
Load More Replies...PLEASE STOP WITH THE AITA reddit posts. Seriously. Get over it. They are just outrage porn.
We're all curious, but THAT is the kind of thing that we need to learn not to ask. It's hurtful, brings up bad memories, can trigger PTSD.
Load More Replies...That picture is a stock photo. It isn't of her. Stated underneath.
Load More Replies...These AITA questions are seriously just people trying to tell a story of something they've gone through. They know they aren't TA, they just wanna post about an experience. This is one of those.
And BP keeps picking these again and again. There are actually interesting, controversial ones on AITA, but due to some reason, it's always these ones they pick. Oh, and BP, it's ÀSSHOLE, not jerk. It's literally the title of the f*cking subreddit they're pulling these stories from, yet they're too stuck-up-their-ásses to call it by its name. 🙄
Load More Replies...Wait til you see BP necro and repost their OWN articles from a year or two ago. The best part? The article will show up on the “Latest” list as if it’s newly published, and it’ll give a publication time like “posted 45 minutes ago”, but the COMMENTS will be from the original post a year etc ago. I made an a*s of myself replying to someone’s year-old comment before I realized that the whole article was a zombified post.
Load More Replies...It would also help if the film industry wouldn't be so damn lazy and always be like "this person is the villain and we can't be bothered to come up with some decent backstory, so let's just make them ugly, disfigured, disabled or at least give them a very visible scar". Looking at you Disney with Scar from Lion King, the Bond movies with Dr. No (no hands), LeChiffre (cries blood because his tear ducts don't work right), Raoul Julia and Lyutsifer Safin (both have a disfigured face), Emilio Largo (eye patch), Victor "Renard" Zokas (facial injury due to headshot)
You’re right. It’s really dehumanising to be treated as some kind of villain, or ‘other’ for things you already feel self conscious about. When I was a kid I had extremely severe eczema and it was horrible how many people (adults included) who treated me like some sort of leper or zombie because I had bad skin lesions and scabs (no open wounds or anything, just raw new or inflamed skin). It made me not want to go out anywhere, but I couldn’t avoid school, so I developed really bad self esteem around my skin because people were weird about it. And Disney doesn’t seem to care, even when they get massive backlash, such as the recent ‘Witches’ film that caused great offence to people with limb differences and hand disabilities or disfigurements
Load More Replies...My doctor told me to keep it uncovered. He/She also told me to tell you to take two of these 🖕🖕 and call him/her in the morning.
I think it's an important point that the people in this story are a young woman and a man twice her age. So often men in this situation feel they can just tell the woman what to do. "Smile!" "Cover up!" "Show some skin!" "Come over here!" It's almost like they think it's their duty to boss women around.
What's truly scary is that this child has a father with such an intolerant attitude.
A few people are doubting the authenticity of this story. I think it's quite plausible due to the number of responses from others who've had similar experiences. The part that really stood out to me was that this is a young woman traveling alone who was approached by a much older man demanding that she change her appearance to appease HIS feelings. These types of exchanges happen every day to women and girls everywhere in the world and are part of the constant misogynistic microaggressions that come with living in a female body. "You should smile more", "You're wearing THAT?", "she looks so much better without all that makeup"... If she's in her early 20s then he is between 40-50 years old! She hasn't lived long enough to know that she was absolutely NTA here. I wouldn't have at that age, girls are trained to be nice, to not offend or talk back, and all sorts of societal BS that takes YEARS of lived experience to deprogram. I'm proud of her for standing up for herself.
People can be extremely rude and insensitive. The majority aren't but never fails running into one of those jerks. Best thing to do is either ignore them or straight up tell them to mind their own business. After cancer treatment and losing all my hair except for my eyebrows and eyelashes I was left pretty damn insecure. It was a battle won but I couldn't help the way I felt. I had to run to town with my mom to get some things for the the house that I hadn't felt like dealing with when an old lady that was less than a foot away started whispering about the way I looked. I ignored until I got the impression that she wanted me to hear what she was saying. The one that got me was "he should have stayed home looking like that.He doesn't look well at all." I told her that I liked the uncle Fester look and it was none of her business what I or anyone else looked like. It wasn't a big deal but folks love to give their 2 cents when it isn't welcomed. Everyone is beautiful in their own way.😘
Wow, what a tool. My father knew a guy whose nose was amputated due to skin cancer, and one day he went to the shop and forgot to wear his prosthetic. A kid was staring at him, and the mother leaned over to him and said "that's what happens if you pick your nose!" Noseless guy had a good laugh and told everyone about it at work the next day.
Are people so absolutely insensitive and mean that they would say that to a woman? my faith in humanity just keeps dwindling down and down and down....
Yes. They are. That's not even the ceuelest people can be.
Load More Replies...I have a scar on my forehead when my ex hit me over the head with a bottle and split the skin; I also have a scar on my neck where I had a basal cell carcinoma removed it was about the size of my thumb. I have self-harming scars on my inner right forearm, and I'm planning to get a tattoo to accentuate it; I have battled many demons and I wear my scars with pride.
I'm a wheelchair user, and have also been totally bald due to treatment and people do stare and sometimes make really unkind or unthoughtful comments. It hurts. I try to talk to kids to try to teach them as often the parents haven't/don't. It doesn't stop hurting but I guess you learn to life with it. I try to focus on all the really positive interactions I have but it isn't always easy.
IMO, OP had EXACTLY the right response to the guy complaining, and hopefully he learned from it.
Not the a*s, ever! Is society so inured to people and their scars and problems that he had no compassion, it makes me worry about the future! You will always be beautiful, and now, you will be fiercely beautiful.
When I was 6 years old my family moved from the Midwest to the West Coast. I was picking up nuts and bolts that fell during moving at the back of our moving truck. It was a long truck and I was small. A disfigured man from the care home next door said hi to me from the door of the truck. I let a out a bloodcurdling scream worthy of any horror film. I don't really remember anything else except that at first I cried because I was scared and then I cried because I scared him and maybe made him feel bad.
Being only 6yo, in a strange place and totally caught unaware... that's totally understandable. And different from OP's experience w/the bad dad. You're NTA!!!
Load More Replies...If anyone has a fresh healing wound that will eventually scar in a couple of months, start using coconut oil and cocoa butter. It will reduce the amount of scar you will have. It also works on pregnant women with stretch marks. I've used it for a large scar I have from a gall bladder operation from 33 years ago. It is gradually fading although the differences in tissue thickness is still obvious but harder to see now.
I used Bio-Oil on my scars, fresh and old. Made a big difference to both. (Stretch marks too)
Load More Replies...I recently got a scar on my face after an accident. I was paying with sticks with my younger cousin and a piece of a bigger stick hit me in the face. Once I explained it my friends realized that that’s where the scar came from and it was kinda noticeable. Told me it looked fine and looked kinda cool. I’m not sorry that I was just having fun with my cousin and mistakes just happen. You deserve people like that in your life
Wow, that guy took a great opportunity to teach his kid about f*****g MANNERS and instead chose to teach his kid how to be an A*****E
God no. I have severe eczema and hear comments from people who should know better all the time, most recently yesterday. I met my work colleagues partner for the first time and he made comments. It's fine, he's a d**k. I'm just glad he let me know he's a d**k before I made any effort in getting to know him and now have an excuse not to meet up with him in the future. People will always be arseholes.
I was "diagnosed" with psoriasis, excema, dermatitis, etc...etal. I kept telling the "Drs" that it wasn't and Every. Single. Medicine. made it sooooo much worse but they refused to believe me until I almost died yet AGAIN and got to a new Doctor who listened to me and discovered that I have SJS (Steven Johnson Syndrome, brace yourself if you Google it) and AGEP (Acute Generalized Exanthematous Pustulosis). Kathleen Robertson ARNP saved my life when those men "drs" nearly killed me to keep their kick-back$ coming. Not saying it's everyone's cause, but stopping all meds cleared & rebooted my system and saved my life & sanity. They actually kept giving me MORE meds for the "side effects" from the original ones, compounding the damage 🤦🤦♀️🤦♂️
Load More Replies...NTA. And the general rule is: People telling other people how to look like or what to wear are always the a*****e. Always!
As a person that harbours a lot of scars on his body the words I would have had with this guy would have made him cry. Apparently I'm pretty good at that.
Definitely NTA. He should have explained to his son that a scare or any deformation is not the living heaven and those who live with stigmas are humans just like us.
Honestly you will have it the rest of your life. And hopefully the image and interacting you had with the man and child will be with them too for theirs and remind them to be nicer. Kick a*s scar but sorry the injury happened but you're still here. A guy at work got a smaller gash in his forehead. And stitches and it's noticeable. I asked what happened as he pointed it out. Something like he fell. I said next time say it was a shark. It's funnier. And he was laughing like crazy. Our bodies are a road map of how we lived. You can't hide some of it but you can own it. Let it make you stronger and accept the support from people. And hey being known as the girl with the scar actually sounds cool as heck. Like a spy or adventurer.
This stinks of BS... the whole thing seems totally contrived, like it's been written for a high school English assignment - or that could just be me ;)
It's just you. This sort of thing happens ALL THE TIME to people who have scars. You should hear some of the insensitive c**p that's been said to my aunt, who has only one leg. Last time I saw her, some A*****E told her to "get out of the chair and stop attention-seeking." For saying "excuse me, I need to get past, could you move your cart to the side." SHE VISIBLY HAS JUST ONE LEG.
Load More Replies...I'm not even a f*****g parent, but it's obvious that none of you have ever tried to convince a preschooler to stop having a tantrum, on an airplane (or ever had a conversation with a four year old about monsters or anything of the sort.) A bright red wound that's only beginning to heal is not the same thing as a healed, closed scar.
My name is Iningo Montoya and a man with 10 fingers on his right hand gave me these scars. Prepare to die!
Well done for saying that. That guy was a f*****g c**t and teaching his kid to be a c**t too.
ANYONE WHO SAYS YOU ARE THE AH IS AN AH!!! THAT GUY WAS HORRIBLE. GOOD FOR YOU FOR LISTENING TO YOUR DERMATOLOGIST!!!
Seriously... parents being afraid to just explain or ask a question.... kids just want info! What happened to your face.... well a lion bit me!!! Kid that's pretty cool. Moving on.....
I had my left leg amputated in 2003. I always wear shorts in the summer. Kids are fascinated with it and I usually tell them that I am part Terminator. Adults will ask me questions especially if they know someone who might lose a limb. Questions are always welcomed.
You are, are who you are so get with it. the rest of us just f**k it up. As we always do!!!
Society has gone to hell in a handbasket. To many self-centered, uneducated idiots walking around thinking they are entitled.
Compassion for the situation but it’s stupid and insincere to ask if you’re the AH in this situation. She knew she wasn’t.
The kid was 4 years old and no idea. The dad got distressed because his kid got scared and that needed to be fixed. This is a parent thing. The girl with the scar was hurt in several ways and the situation might have felt very unsafe. So she reacts in her way to it in a stressed manor.
Anyway, everybody got stressed out. In my opinion, the adults should have realised the situation was not a usual one and should have reacted in a more sympathetic matter. If the kid was made to understand, by all adults involved, that the situation wasn't scary at all, then there would have been no problem.
Load More Replies...PLEASE STOP WITH THE AITA reddit posts. Seriously. Get over it. They are just outrage porn.
We're all curious, but THAT is the kind of thing that we need to learn not to ask. It's hurtful, brings up bad memories, can trigger PTSD.
Load More Replies...That picture is a stock photo. It isn't of her. Stated underneath.
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