Mother Freaks Out After Finding Out How Much Her Childfree Cousin Spent On A Vacation, Calls Her ‘Disgusting’
Our family’s love grounds us. It increases our confidence and self-esteem, adds more stability to life, and provides a better understanding of social interactions.
But as much as Reddit user OperaJunkie would like to enjoy the company of her closest kin, she can’t. At least not at the moment.
To explain her situation and possibly get some support, the 26-year-old made a post on the subreddit r/Childfree, where she detailed a recent conflict with her cousin.
It all started when the woman asked OperaJunkie to look after her kids. The Redditor refused because she had a vacation approaching and as the two continued talking, the cousin asked how much OperaJunkie is spending on her trip. $9,000 was the answer. And the woman was so surprised by it that she rallied the whole family against OperaJunkie, criticizing her for stupid spending.
This childfree woman has been planning her dream vacation for ages, and she’s prepared to pay $9,000 for it
Image credits: Claire Ward (not the actual photo)
But her cousin thinks it’s a huge mistake, since the sum could take care of multiple kids for months and months
Image credits: Marisa Howenstine (not the actual photo)
Image credits: operajunkie
Such conflicts might be more common than we think. A research team from Michigan State University recently discovered over one in five Michigan adults do not want children.
“We found that 21.6% of adults, or about 1.7 million people, in Michigan do not want children and therefore are ‘childfree.’ That’s more than the population of Michigan’s nine largest cities,” said Zachary Neal, associate professor in MSU’s psychology department and co-author of the study.
While the study was conducted in just one state, according to the 2021 census, Michigan is demographically similar to the United States as a whole. Because of this, Neal said, if the pattern holds up nationally, it would mean 50 to 60 million Americans are childfree.
“People — especially women — who say they don’t want children are often told they’ll change their mind, but the study found otherwise,” Jennifer Watling Neal, associate professor in the psychology department at MSU and co-author of the study, added. “People are making the decision to be childfree early in life, most often in their teens and twenties. And, it’s not just young people claiming they don’t want children. Women who decided in their teens to be childfree are now, on average, nearly 40 and still do not have children.”
Because so many people are childfree, the researchers said this group warrants more attention from the general public. “Following the U.S. Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v. Wade, a large number of Americans are now at risk of being forced to have children despite not wanting them,” Watling Neal said.
As the post went viral, its author provided more information about her life and family in the comments
While it’s impossible to say who is right and who is wrong in this situation from an outsider’s point of view, people noted that some things (like the use of the word “breeder”) might indicate both parties crossed each other’s line.
Without pointing any fingers, it’s interesting to note that Dr. Kathleen Kelley Reardon, USC Marshall School professor and author of Comebacks at Work: Using Conversation to Master Confrontation, estimates that 75% of how people treat us is under our own control. Because of this she advocates taking a different approach if you want to experience new, more positive results with these types of conflicts in the future.
“Communication is like chess where every move one person makes influences the choices of the other,” Reardon said. “A good rule of thumb is to not say what you would normally say in response to any provocation. If you usually meet a challenge with a challenge, try asking a question instead. If you let someone go on and on and that leads to anger, link something you have to say to his or her topic and then change to another one.”
If you think you’re being blamed for something, instead of getting your back up, try saying, “There’s some truth to that” or “I hadn’t thought of it that way but I see your point.” In other words, tweak what you normally do.
No one shall judge your selections. BUT. To be honest. If someone uses words like "breeder" in the actice vocabulary when discussing about other fellow human beings, that is bit a red flag..
Right? Maybe the reactions of the family have more to do with her attitude than her choices.
Load More Replies...I agree to most of the comments. Yes, you get harsh comments for being childfree at say what 35+. Usually they will leave twentysomethings alone. But i seriously dislike how she‘s insulting everyone mentioned. Breeder? Loser Boyfriend? Just mean.
For sure. As a childfree woman in her thirties, I get it pretty frequently, and sometimes people with kids do get a tad entitled with me in terms of paying for things or providing free childcare. But to be honest, it seems like the judgement in OP’s case goes both ways. If you don’t wanna be treated poorly for your choices, stop talking sh*t about other people for theirs.
Load More Replies...She’s not wrong for wanting to live child free and enjoy her money but my god it seems like both these ladies are not very nice people. Something tells me no contact will be better for everyone involved.
I noticed a few people using the word ,"jealous" in the comments. I'm not jealous, but I am envious. The difference to me is that jealous people want it instead of you - or even want neither of you to have it - while envious is wanting it as well as you.
Envy is wanting a thing that someone else has. Jealousy is wanting a person someone else has, or experiencing feelings of possessiveness and fear of loss with regard to someone potentially "stealing" a partner's affection away from them.
Load More Replies...When she said "breeder" I expected like 12 children, not two. Anyway, that vacation sounds great, where do I sign up?
No judgment on spending 9k on a vacation.... but use of "breeders" and your assumption that your sister is miserable because of her kids and not just tired because of her kids or miserable because something bad is going on behind the scenes. AS well as your thought to go no contact if your sister asks for help buying a new fridge and your brave move posting in an echo chamber where you are less likely to have someone disagree with you... I judge you harshly for those things. Of course your sister is jealous... so what... that at the end of the day is her problem not yours.
It's not her sister, it's her cousin. While calling her a breeder may be harsh, I can tell you from personal experience what a frustrating pain it is when people judge you for either choosing to be childfree, or stopping at one. I'm not rich. I certainly am no author. I was just a hard working, low income single mother. Yet, people saw nothing wrong with badgering me about having more children. "Because you don't want your baby to grow up alone!" "But, don't you want more? All women want lots of babies!" No, we don't. Some of us know when we've had enough. I'm guessing OP is enjoying the fruits of her hard work and has had enough of being judged for being childfree and not depriving herself of things that some with kids can't afford. Don't even get me started on the grief I got for spoiling my dog. "You feed her chicken? There are children starving!" As if they'd eat if I didn't feed my dog. (Yes, I donate to my local food bank.) Whew. I'll leave quietly now.
Load More Replies...1st world problems are so bad / open an AITA about that / o'er on reddit, try your luck / we on BP don't give a...
OP is 100% bragging, even if she doesn't think she is. It's incredibly obvious she has a high opinion of herself and her lot in life. There's jealousy on her family's part, sure; they're seeing what they can't have as a result of their life choices. But the last thing they need is this tw-t rubbing their noses in her good fortunes. Well, she should enjoy them while they last; today she's a best selling author, but tomorrow she could be a cashier at JoAnn's. Nothing is forever and the other side of the plateau is very steep...
How is she "rubbing their noses in her good fortune"??? Have you even read the whole thing??? It was the cousin who asked, she didn't brag about it...
Load More Replies...so What? Her Cousin's Trying to Live Their Best Life Without Kids Right Now,Who The F**k is She to Judge?
I don't talk money with anyone. It's never a good idea. Anyone who has less than you can potentially change towards you once they hear you have more money than them and it can ruin relationships just like this. I have adult children and we all save every year for at least two major vacations that we go on together. They each have one child that they along with their spouses that they can afford.I just can't for the life of me understand how jealous people seem to think because you have more than they do that they can try to spend your money. Just like this cousin.Did she think OP was going to say "oh I feel so bad here is my $9k vacation money take it and spend it on you and your children" ? I guarantee if the reverse was true they wouldn't care at all about your situation.
My daughter is 24, child free, owns a house and convertible and is very happy. I sm very proud of her.
It's your money, you do what you want with it. I'm not sure I need to read about it. I spent a similar amount on my honeymoon, but that was a one off. If you have that kind of money to spend, you do you. I have more of an issue with people who have money but don't pay their way.
Jealousy is ripe. She shouldn't have told her cousin how much it cost. She chose not to have kids so she could have money to spend, and thats her right. But that word, breeder, is not nice.
Referred to her cousin as a "breeder", said she was saving her money "wisely" compared to said cousin's spending habits (like a thousand dollar a day vacation is "wise"), calls the woman's husband a "loser" just because they met in high school and stayed together since, says her cousin's "brain has rotted", name drops that she has "book and movie deals", and flat out states her entire purpose is wanting to brag. Additionally, this was NOT a child vs. child free thing until she turned it into it. It was a socioeconomic class thing, where it seems the poster was originally from a lower-middle income class, and now no longer fits with any of her family and social ties due to her new 1%er status. What an unpleasant drag of a person. I hope her book sale money dries up and she never gets another hit.
Good for you . Your decision . Stick by it . You’ve worked for it and you’re not a part time baby sitter . Enjoy your vacations . You don’t have to explain to anyone . Bon voyage
I’m making decent money and have been on fancy vacations but OP is spending 1k per day on their vacations, which is quite crazy in places like Grenada and Jamaica. Sure, it’s your money so you do you but it certainly feels wrong of large parts of the family seem to be struggling.
I dunno, if your family is struggling and you are making money hand over fist why not buy her a new fridge to help her out? It sounds like it wont impact you a whole lot but it will probably make her day. I also think you should be able to spend whatever you want on your vacations, it’s your money you earned it. Enjoy.
No, at some point people have to take personal responsibility. If I can't afford 2 kids I'm not having them. I'm not going to expect my family to give me free things because of my own desires. Also thats a slippery slope. I've given family things and they get greedy. I've not seen a time where that hasn't happened.
Load More Replies...Now I want to see the response when I explain how much money I spend on escorts or at brothels. I don't do either but the point being how much cheaper that might be than having a SO, which is also cheaper than having a SO and kids.
We all make choices. I chose to remain childfree. That allowed me to take a couple of vacations to Europe every year. It also allowed me to retire young and retire to a small mountain village an hour south of Valencia Spain. Now I get to travel all over Europe all I want. Getting ready to take my fifth trip this year. Do I miss having kids? Do I have any regrets? Bwahahahahahaha
It's possible that her cousin's feelings were hurt. Not because of OP but because of her own situation and possibly wishing she had planned better for her future so she could provide better (luxury vacations) for her children as opposed to wishing she had that kind of money for food. It's not the fault of OP that what she said struck a chord. I can't understand why the cousin would ask her such a nosey question about how much she spent? I think the OP took it as an insult, like she was being selfish and that's why she said what she did, and maybe she does feel that way. These two should probably not travel in the same family because they're like oil and water.
Before you stop speaking, tell her you took what she said to heart- then make a donation to the nearest food pantry in her name. Win/win for everyone, including your altruistic (with your money) cousin.
No one shall judge your selections. BUT. To be honest. If someone uses words like "breeder" in the actice vocabulary when discussing about other fellow human beings, that is bit a red flag..
Right? Maybe the reactions of the family have more to do with her attitude than her choices.
Load More Replies...I agree to most of the comments. Yes, you get harsh comments for being childfree at say what 35+. Usually they will leave twentysomethings alone. But i seriously dislike how she‘s insulting everyone mentioned. Breeder? Loser Boyfriend? Just mean.
For sure. As a childfree woman in her thirties, I get it pretty frequently, and sometimes people with kids do get a tad entitled with me in terms of paying for things or providing free childcare. But to be honest, it seems like the judgement in OP’s case goes both ways. If you don’t wanna be treated poorly for your choices, stop talking sh*t about other people for theirs.
Load More Replies...She’s not wrong for wanting to live child free and enjoy her money but my god it seems like both these ladies are not very nice people. Something tells me no contact will be better for everyone involved.
I noticed a few people using the word ,"jealous" in the comments. I'm not jealous, but I am envious. The difference to me is that jealous people want it instead of you - or even want neither of you to have it - while envious is wanting it as well as you.
Envy is wanting a thing that someone else has. Jealousy is wanting a person someone else has, or experiencing feelings of possessiveness and fear of loss with regard to someone potentially "stealing" a partner's affection away from them.
Load More Replies...When she said "breeder" I expected like 12 children, not two. Anyway, that vacation sounds great, where do I sign up?
No judgment on spending 9k on a vacation.... but use of "breeders" and your assumption that your sister is miserable because of her kids and not just tired because of her kids or miserable because something bad is going on behind the scenes. AS well as your thought to go no contact if your sister asks for help buying a new fridge and your brave move posting in an echo chamber where you are less likely to have someone disagree with you... I judge you harshly for those things. Of course your sister is jealous... so what... that at the end of the day is her problem not yours.
It's not her sister, it's her cousin. While calling her a breeder may be harsh, I can tell you from personal experience what a frustrating pain it is when people judge you for either choosing to be childfree, or stopping at one. I'm not rich. I certainly am no author. I was just a hard working, low income single mother. Yet, people saw nothing wrong with badgering me about having more children. "Because you don't want your baby to grow up alone!" "But, don't you want more? All women want lots of babies!" No, we don't. Some of us know when we've had enough. I'm guessing OP is enjoying the fruits of her hard work and has had enough of being judged for being childfree and not depriving herself of things that some with kids can't afford. Don't even get me started on the grief I got for spoiling my dog. "You feed her chicken? There are children starving!" As if they'd eat if I didn't feed my dog. (Yes, I donate to my local food bank.) Whew. I'll leave quietly now.
Load More Replies...1st world problems are so bad / open an AITA about that / o'er on reddit, try your luck / we on BP don't give a...
OP is 100% bragging, even if she doesn't think she is. It's incredibly obvious she has a high opinion of herself and her lot in life. There's jealousy on her family's part, sure; they're seeing what they can't have as a result of their life choices. But the last thing they need is this tw-t rubbing their noses in her good fortunes. Well, she should enjoy them while they last; today she's a best selling author, but tomorrow she could be a cashier at JoAnn's. Nothing is forever and the other side of the plateau is very steep...
How is she "rubbing their noses in her good fortune"??? Have you even read the whole thing??? It was the cousin who asked, she didn't brag about it...
Load More Replies...so What? Her Cousin's Trying to Live Their Best Life Without Kids Right Now,Who The F**k is She to Judge?
I don't talk money with anyone. It's never a good idea. Anyone who has less than you can potentially change towards you once they hear you have more money than them and it can ruin relationships just like this. I have adult children and we all save every year for at least two major vacations that we go on together. They each have one child that they along with their spouses that they can afford.I just can't for the life of me understand how jealous people seem to think because you have more than they do that they can try to spend your money. Just like this cousin.Did she think OP was going to say "oh I feel so bad here is my $9k vacation money take it and spend it on you and your children" ? I guarantee if the reverse was true they wouldn't care at all about your situation.
My daughter is 24, child free, owns a house and convertible and is very happy. I sm very proud of her.
It's your money, you do what you want with it. I'm not sure I need to read about it. I spent a similar amount on my honeymoon, but that was a one off. If you have that kind of money to spend, you do you. I have more of an issue with people who have money but don't pay their way.
Jealousy is ripe. She shouldn't have told her cousin how much it cost. She chose not to have kids so she could have money to spend, and thats her right. But that word, breeder, is not nice.
Referred to her cousin as a "breeder", said she was saving her money "wisely" compared to said cousin's spending habits (like a thousand dollar a day vacation is "wise"), calls the woman's husband a "loser" just because they met in high school and stayed together since, says her cousin's "brain has rotted", name drops that she has "book and movie deals", and flat out states her entire purpose is wanting to brag. Additionally, this was NOT a child vs. child free thing until she turned it into it. It was a socioeconomic class thing, where it seems the poster was originally from a lower-middle income class, and now no longer fits with any of her family and social ties due to her new 1%er status. What an unpleasant drag of a person. I hope her book sale money dries up and she never gets another hit.
Good for you . Your decision . Stick by it . You’ve worked for it and you’re not a part time baby sitter . Enjoy your vacations . You don’t have to explain to anyone . Bon voyage
I’m making decent money and have been on fancy vacations but OP is spending 1k per day on their vacations, which is quite crazy in places like Grenada and Jamaica. Sure, it’s your money so you do you but it certainly feels wrong of large parts of the family seem to be struggling.
I dunno, if your family is struggling and you are making money hand over fist why not buy her a new fridge to help her out? It sounds like it wont impact you a whole lot but it will probably make her day. I also think you should be able to spend whatever you want on your vacations, it’s your money you earned it. Enjoy.
No, at some point people have to take personal responsibility. If I can't afford 2 kids I'm not having them. I'm not going to expect my family to give me free things because of my own desires. Also thats a slippery slope. I've given family things and they get greedy. I've not seen a time where that hasn't happened.
Load More Replies...Now I want to see the response when I explain how much money I spend on escorts or at brothels. I don't do either but the point being how much cheaper that might be than having a SO, which is also cheaper than having a SO and kids.
We all make choices. I chose to remain childfree. That allowed me to take a couple of vacations to Europe every year. It also allowed me to retire young and retire to a small mountain village an hour south of Valencia Spain. Now I get to travel all over Europe all I want. Getting ready to take my fifth trip this year. Do I miss having kids? Do I have any regrets? Bwahahahahahaha
It's possible that her cousin's feelings were hurt. Not because of OP but because of her own situation and possibly wishing she had planned better for her future so she could provide better (luxury vacations) for her children as opposed to wishing she had that kind of money for food. It's not the fault of OP that what she said struck a chord. I can't understand why the cousin would ask her such a nosey question about how much she spent? I think the OP took it as an insult, like she was being selfish and that's why she said what she did, and maybe she does feel that way. These two should probably not travel in the same family because they're like oil and water.
Before you stop speaking, tell her you took what she said to heart- then make a donation to the nearest food pantry in her name. Win/win for everyone, including your altruistic (with your money) cousin.
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