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Teen Babysits Her 3 Cousins Full-Time Almost Every Day, All Hell Breaks Loose When She Asks To Get Paid
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Teen Babysits Her 3 Cousins Full-Time Almost Every Day, All Hell Breaks Loose When She Asks To Get Paid

Babysitter Angers Relatives After Asking To Be Paid For Help, Causes Family DramaTeen Babysits Her 3 Cousins Full-Time Almost Every Day, All Hell Breaks Loose When She Asks To Get PaidTeen Called Entitled Because She Asked To Get Paid For Babysitting Aunt And Uncle's 3 Kids Full-TimeTeen Called Entitled Because She Asked To Get Paid For Babysitting Her 3 Cousins Full-Time Almost Every Day“Am I Wrong For Charging My Aunt And Uncle To Babysit My Little Cousins?”18 Y.O. Causes Family Drama After Asking Relatives To Pay Her For Babysitting Help, Wonders If She Should Continue Doing It For FreeNiece Starts Family Drama After Charging Her Relatives For Babysitting, Asks The Internet If She Was Being A JerkNiece Gets Called 'Selfish' And 'Entitled' After Asking To Be Paid For Babysitting Her Cousins, Causes A Family Feud
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There are accusatory murmurs flying around the world blaming the last couple of generations for having fewer kids than ever. The truth is, it’s a luxury that simply cannot be afforded by many. Take childcare, for example: having a professional nanny look after your munchkin starts from $650 per week. And that’s only for one, perfectly healthy child. No wonder, then, why almost 4 in 5 parents choose to employ their relatives: they get to cut their spending, save their careers, and have a family member to look after the little ones. And everything would be fine if not for the fact that most of them see it as a favor rather than an honest-to-goodness job.

When this 18-year-old babysitter decided it was finally time to speak up and discuss reimbursement with her aunt and uncle, things didn’t go the way she expected. After being called “entitled” and selfish for charging family for looking after her little cousins, she decided to seek perspective from the ‘Am I The [Jerk]‘ community.

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    So when this 18 Y.O. decided to speak up and ask about being paid for her help, she didn’t expect this would cause a family feud

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    Scrolling through the most recent babysitting statistics, you’ll find two conflicting facts that explain each other perfectly: almost 70% of parents complain that quality babysitters are hard to find. However, learning that half of them are unpaid, we wonder why that is…

    In order to learn more about the challenges that nannies and babysitters alike face in their noble profession, Bored Panda reached out to Michelle LaRowe Conover who’s the lead editor of Nanny Magazine and award-winning nanny herself with 25 years worth of experience under her belt.

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    Discussing the financial side of babysitting, Conover suggests always having the talk first before accepting the job. “Before leaving anyone with your children, it’s essential to establish qualifications, boundaries and expectations. And that includes having conversations surrounding pay,” Conover explained. She thinks that part of the main problem of nannies and babysitters being massively underpaid — or not paid at all — lies in having no boundaries set beforehand.

    What many of them fail to recognize is that more often than not, an employer will not give you a huge jump in compensation all at once to catch you up to where you should be. Plus, you don’t want to cause unnecessary drama or put the relationship with your clients-parents in jeopardy. That’s why Conover underlines the importance of speaking up before the ship sails — doesn’t mind if you’re a qualified nanny or placeholder babysitter.

    “While caring for your niece or nephew once in a while is part of the role, providing ongoing care is a totally different story,” she told us.  Conover suggests scouring through local social media pages to learn about the ongoing rates of babysitting in your area. “You’ll want to consider the duties, responsibilities, and caregiver qualifications when setting your babysitting rate.”

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    People agreed that the author is not the one who is being unreasonable in this messy situation

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    Similar to Conover, Dr. Susan Scheftel, a psychologist at the Columbia University Center for Psychoanalytic Training and Research, argues that most parents tend to depersonalize nanny’s role as a member of the family and that’s what inspired her to pursue her award-winning ‘Why Aren’t We Curious about Nannies?’ paper.

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    “There’s something about nannies occupying a blank space in parents’ mind where they don’t want to think about it,” Scheftel told Bored Panda. “Don’t want to think about the fact that they’d like to outsource their children’s care to somebody else who might create a better bond with their child while they’re out at work.”

    Contrary to what statistics suggest, Scheftel thinks fewer and fewer parents choose to hire relatives as babysitters. While there’s no need to do a background check on your niece (“you’re having somebody that you can trust and know well”), relatives as babysitters can be a double-edged sword. “If there are any issues you have with your relative who’s going to take care of your children, it might amplify them,” Scheftel explained. In that sense, if the relative-babysitter has had a distant or unhealthy relationship with their own mother or father, “those struggles are likely going to be played out when taking care of the children.”

    Conover also reminds us that “nannies are caregivers by nature and often find themselves neglecting their own needs in service to others.” Often case they have little to no days off and work grueling hours. And when they do start to suffer from burning out being “on” all the time — they remain silent. “Having conversations with parents around burnout prior to getting there can help to ensure a supportive work environment and help parents understand how and why things like job creep, extended hours, and lack of downtime can contribute to nanny burnout.”

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    In that case, Conover suggests, it’s better to move on and find a family which won’t treat you like a near-invisible, tireless substitute for parents while they’re away. If Mary Poppins, the world’s most famous, magical super-nanny needs to set boundaries and take time off to rest, no real-life nanny — however young and altruistic — should allow being mistreated or undervalued.

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    howdylee
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My niece (16) watched my 3 kids (including 3 yr old twins) for 5 days, 3 hrs a day, one summer while our work hours shifted. Her mom (my SIL) was insisting that I not pay niece. I slipped her a couple hundred bucks because, 1 - she was responsible for keeping my kids alive, 2 - she could have been home doing other odd jobs for $, 3 - she needs to learn her time is valuable and worth something, family or not.

    Karen Lyon
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @howdylee: Good for you! I can't imagine what it was like for the OP. I spent a summer as the full time sitter when I was that age for my aunt and uncle. My auntie took me home on Friday nights and picked me up on Sunday nights so I could have weekends with my family. She was close to my Mom, who was her older sister, and she adored my Dad. Still, it was an hour each way, and she had a demanding job, she didn't have to do that. That's on top of the really good money they paid me, which got me started on my college fund (I went to a UC, the tuition rates were very manageable back in the late '70's.) My cousins loved it because, being such a tomboy most of my life, I'd go out and toss a baseball with them or try and shoot hoops instead of being on the phone all day with my friends, like my other cousins did when they babysat! I still have a very special relationship with all of them and cherish memories of that summer. It was a great gig.

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    CatWoman312
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's ironic the aunt called the poster entitled when she's the one who feels entitled to free childcare "because family"

    Something
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone says babies are easy, that's a red flag. That person should not be responsible for a baby.

    Alice
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    to be honest, if I would go on a holiday for a week, I would pay my friend more to cat sit (who lived next door). She would come twice a day and was making sure kitties are fed and happy. I also brought her presents after my holidays. Childcare is super expensive in the UK and £80 would be a pretty sweet deal.

    Suzi Q
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm glad her parents are on her side. If it's so easy to take care of two 1-year-olds and an 8-year-old, then it shouldn't be hard to find anyone else to do it for free (LOL!) The entitlement of the Aunt and Uncle is mind boggling!!!! At 18 she should be starting her life.

    Demi Zwaan
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If caring for 1 year old twins is so easy, let them take care of their own kids!

    Izzy Curer
    Community Member
    2 years ago

    I want to know what people were saying on her aunt's facebook page. Were they agreeing with her, or were they calling her out? Or were they just silent because she always acts this way and then she lashes out at anyone who says anything?

    Helena R
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pay £55 a day for nursery for my 1yr old in the uk, there's no discount for multiples. It's £20 for my older kids after school care. £130 a day for three kids and that's the going rate outside of London. She NTA and honestly as mean as it is to those poor kids, she needs to go no-contact and leave them to find their own childcare. £80 a day would be cheap

    Karina Carr
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    By nursery, I assume you are referring to what we call daycare in Canada, not private nanny care like OP is providing. Private care would definitely be more!

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    Jerry Mathers
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It always seem that those that play the family card or the blood card are always those on the needing end of things. They love the idea that, by virtue of birth, they are somehow entitled to money, labor, housing, and virtually everything else that people need to work for to provide themselves. Bugger that

    Dorothy Parker
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why did the OP's parents allow the aunt and uncle to take advantage of their daughter to begin with? Twelve hours a day is brutal if there's no help. Having the piece of mind that you have a loving family member with your children is priceless. They should have been kissing her feet and paying her from the beginning. Shame on them.

    Katinka Min
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I be auntie has a blog called: How to Get a Free Nanny. What on earth is going on these people's head??? How do you keep a teenager, your own niece at that, from buiding a life? AND thinking this is normal behaviour??

    Jo Choto
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone who says they are doing you a favour, letting you work 60 hours a week for free, is at best taking advantage and at worst, deranged. And that's the issue here. Never mind wifi or food. The aunt can say what she likes to anyone she likes, but I imagine everybody will work out what the issue is.

    R Sayed
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    2 years ago

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    Mandie Ross-Warneck
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Taking care of someone else's child full time and not just a couple hours here and there is not just babysitting. If I am taking care of someone else's child in their home or mine on a full time basis I am their nanny, not their babysitter. Her aunt is gaslighting her calling her "entitled" for this. The aunt is the one who is entitled. She believes she's entitled to filling up someone else's full time workable hours and not pay them. The OP is not entitled, she actually sounds very reasonable and maybe even overly fair. I used to watch my sister (12 years younger than I) after achool and during the summer after I turned 18 and was living on my own. My mom paid me. I also took care of my niece and nephew full time while my SIL and brother worked, they also paid me. I absolutely loved this time I was able to spend with them, but in all practicality I could not just take care of them full time with no pay. I am happy to read though that her mom has her back on this.

    CL Rowan
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her aunt's behaviors are criminal. Taking advantage of family by manipulating them into working for free should be prosecutable. For those who argue that the kid can say No? Well, you say that to yourself when your relative whines to you and other family members about their 'needs' versus your 'selfishness' and 'greed' to dare to ask for compensation!

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    PepsiCoke
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If my sibling ever pull this stunt on my child, I promise all hell will break loose. However, I will stop my child to ever babysit for free in the first place.

    Karis Ravenhill
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Your aunt and uncle are cun*s, plain and simple. Don't feel bad about the family drama, just feel glad that your mother is standing up for you instead of taking her sisters side and whoring you out for free labor.

    Craig Reynolds
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA as in NEVER TA. Family is NEVER entitled to your time and definitely NOT discounted by any amount, let alone by that extreme. You don't owe them squat. They are losers and leaches and are the ones that are acting entitled. Frack!!! At this point, I would sue them for back wages. File a labor complaint and teach them a lesson in how to behave.

    Karina Carr
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a nanny. I would charge this family a MINIMUM of $1400 dollars per week (807 British pounds). That's $20/hr for the first 40 hours, and time and a half for the 20 hours of overtime. These parents are in for a rude awakening when they actually have to hire a nanny. Even if they charge only the minimum wage for 18-20yr olds in England, they would be making around 460 pounds per week. (More if they are older than 20). Their niece was barely asking for anything!

    Karina Carr
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, I'm the oldest of my cousins by at least 3 years, so I babysat everyone. All of my aunts and uncles always paid me, even if I was only there for a few hours. These "adults" are entitled assholes.

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    M. Robinson
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My friend's teens used to watch my kids and now my lawn for boxes of pop tarts or lunch at Arby's- but THEY set those rates not me(16 yo boys only career about snacks), then they got older and asked for $. $20 for 3 (later 4) kids was peanuts compared to what I would've paid a stranger so I could go get things done for and hour or two. If I didn't have it, I didn't ask, if I had it then "hey, you wanna make $20 today". Now the oldest is in the Army and stationed away, and the second is 18 but trades SOME basic work and services for rides across town. I would never have expected all day or all week for free. People are batshit crazy.

    Amber
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So they don't pay you,AND doesn't have food you can eat. NTA,you're keeping her kids alive.80 a week is underpayment. Leave them,you are taking care of basically toddlers and a small child. You're not being paid and 80 is less than your worth.

    Megzymonsta
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So sad to see an 18 year old taking on this much responsibility and being an amazing cousin just to have it blow up in their face the second they ask for a reasonable price for doing it. Even a minimum wage part time job would bring in almost double that amount and allow them to socialise outside of the family. 100% NTA, at 18 years old it's not really an option to sacrifice all your spare time to ungrateful family members when you should be out there finding your own place in the world. Maybe look into nursery work or something similar if you want to spend all your time around babies and kids but don't allow yourself to be abused by selfish people just because they feel entitled to your life

    Lilia Loewenberg
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The author did NOTHING wrong. If anything, the aunt and uncle are taking full advantage of this poor teen who was trying to help out and probably didn't realize the scope of the situation. Shame on them. They are the ones acting spoiled and entitled. I'm glad her mom stuck up for her and I hope she quit. Let them pay a stranger to watch their children while the teen moves on with her life and finds herself a good paying job.

    Marian Moore
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This 18 yr old has a life and its not babysitting her Aunt's kids. She needs her life to be free to get a decent job, maybe go to college, be a independent woman, find her own passion. I am glad her mom and dad are backing her. She does not owe her Aunt her life. Her Aunt knew exactly what she was doing and was hoping to continue taking advantage of her 18 yr old niece. Shame on her. She is the AH, not her niece. Don't return to babysit because the Aunt will do it again and again.

    Renita McAfee
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, women without children are expected to babysit for everyone for free, and I'm proud of all the women who are doing what my sister and I did and just say no, move away, and only answer the phone sparingly. I am so glad I moved away. Meanwhile, family are angry again 30 years later that I won't put my special needs kid in a home to move to their house and care for parents and grandkids.....yes, for free. They didn't ask that much. I don't say 'no' now, I have choice words that say more than just 'no'.

    toxxic
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want an update on stories like this. Glad to see her parents were on her side, since usually they aren't in these stories.

    Tenshi Scientia
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nta: my aunt n uncle used to let me babysit for my niece when she was 4-12 (I'm currently 33 but this was back when I was in my 20s and my niece is older now obviously) they were great about paying me. And I usually did overnights (6pm till the morning my parents picked me up) but I got food, I'd play on the video console when my niece got older, helped her with her homework, we were basically sisters. I'd end up with $20 each time but it was like maybe once or twice a month so I would say that was damn good. And if I was really lucky, it happened each weekend, which I NEVER complained about. Saving up that $20 got me a new game or a new accessory for the game console in my house, or it got me new clothing, or a new piece to a cosplay outfit I was unable to make by hand.

    Mad Mar
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe check what people working those hours get paid and explain that a job is a job. Regardless if you're flipping burgers or being a full time nanny. Plus if you have cpr training too that's more $ to a nanny. And basically required to do that job. Yes there are break times at reg jobs. Kids sleep. Small break. Lunch time most people buy their own food. You can't because they don't supply u food you can eat and you don't get paid to buy food to bring or have delievered. Then you also have a child u have to feed their food to and cleanup so there chef stuff and housekeeping. And tutor aka help with homework. You're better off out of that. And I'm surprised your mom let them go so long without paying you something.

    Karina Carr
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Legally, it would have to be at least minimum wage. Nannies can only be paid less than minimum wage if they are also being provided room and board. Minimum wage in England for 18-20yr olds is 6.56/hr. With all that overtime, she should be paid at least 450 pounds PER WEEK. A qualified/educated nanny would surely charge more, but that's the legal minimum.

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    Lemonclouds20
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honey, you'd be kind asking just £80 for a 12hr day. Just because it's family doesn't mean anything. They've taken advantage! If you're not pressured to have a job and having to pay bills / rent. Do something you'll enjoy. Art course , pottery course and be a librarian. Be an au pair abroad! Au pair in LA / France/ Monaco. Have an adventure!

    Heather Menard
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you know what daycare would charge? Also daycare makes parents pick kids up by 5 pm. 80 pounds a week is not even half a day.

    Karina Carr
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another commenter from England said her daycare would charge 130 pounds per day for the 3 kids. And you're right, daycares aren't open until 8pm. Every one I've ever worked for closed at 6. 7am to 6pm.

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    Catherine Spencer-Mills
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never had this problem, but I never babysat anyone's kids. I would rather do ironing for my aunt. OP is definitely NTA.

    angela reed
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd LOVE to hear the true response fro her ne'er-do-well aunt and uncIe. What a couple of ingrates! Good riddance !

    Carol Boshears
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are massively spoiled and entitled!And this is partially your fault for doing this for nothing in the first place. Tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine.

    G. T.
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I applaud OP for finally speaking up for herself and now allowing her aunt to force her to do slave labour. I applaud the mother for standing up for her daughter. The aunt is being an emotionally abusive bully, and by whining about it on her social feeds is attempting to encourage all her friends to do the same to her niece. Don't babysit for them anymore, EVER. And don't talk to them until they have apologized--really, sincerely apologized, not backing down in an attempt to still get cheap labour--both to them AND in a post on their social feeds every bit as visible to their buddies as their trash-talking was.

    Wendy
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For once I would love it if Bored Panda posted a scenario where it wasn't so incredibly obvious that the writer isn't the jerk. It seems like most of these types of posts have scenarios along the lines of "my ex murdered my entire family but blamed me because I like Hello Kitty. Am I the AH for liking Hello Kitty?"

    daniella J
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good morning family always wants to use their title to get out of things sad part is she spends unnecessary money money all the time that could probably help you asking for your worth is not wrong denying yourself of it is if she is not helping you in anyway you should be getting paid this is your first job would you work anywhere for free don’t think of people title think about the service and situation don’t let people walk over because they hold a title you’re worth is more than a title remember and demand it or go get a real job sad part she is Forced to pay somebody else when she could’ve paid you with no issues before it’s not your fault it’s your aunt is selfish

    AspieGirl88
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They called YOU entitled, when they expect their own flesh & blood to be their literal 21st century SLAVE?? Oh, the sick irony! Tell them to shove it up their greedy a$$e$, because you deserve to be treated better than that. Clearly, they have no respect for someone who has probably been parenting way better than they do & they need a stiff boot up the backside to wake up & see how the real world works! Don’t even think of agreeing to the $80 a week, honey. They don’t even deserve that. Let them pay full price for actual babysitting services & maybe they’ll realise just how wrong they were to treat you like that ... then again, such entitlement is rarely curable, SMH. 😑🤷‍♀️

    Buzz Anderson
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See how fast those two change their tune when they look to hire someone and see prices from150 pounds to 200. They are projecting when they whine about entitlement. Tell them to F off and don't worry about it. 72 hours a week for free? TO HELL WITH THEM.

    Cheyenne
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Holy sh*t, she should not only demand £100 per week minimum, she should demand back pay as well. Her aunt has one hell of a nerve. Quit immediately and tell the aunt “Pay me or pay a babysitter.”

    Brian Kirk
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read enough of these and you will come to the conclusion that Family SUCKS.

    howdylee
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My niece (16) watched my 3 kids (including 3 yr old twins) for 5 days, 3 hrs a day, one summer while our work hours shifted. Her mom (my SIL) was insisting that I not pay niece. I slipped her a couple hundred bucks because, 1 - she was responsible for keeping my kids alive, 2 - she could have been home doing other odd jobs for $, 3 - she needs to learn her time is valuable and worth something, family or not.

    Karen Lyon
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @howdylee: Good for you! I can't imagine what it was like for the OP. I spent a summer as the full time sitter when I was that age for my aunt and uncle. My auntie took me home on Friday nights and picked me up on Sunday nights so I could have weekends with my family. She was close to my Mom, who was her older sister, and she adored my Dad. Still, it was an hour each way, and she had a demanding job, she didn't have to do that. That's on top of the really good money they paid me, which got me started on my college fund (I went to a UC, the tuition rates were very manageable back in the late '70's.) My cousins loved it because, being such a tomboy most of my life, I'd go out and toss a baseball with them or try and shoot hoops instead of being on the phone all day with my friends, like my other cousins did when they babysat! I still have a very special relationship with all of them and cherish memories of that summer. It was a great gig.

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    CatWoman312
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's ironic the aunt called the poster entitled when she's the one who feels entitled to free childcare "because family"

    Something
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone says babies are easy, that's a red flag. That person should not be responsible for a baby.

    Alice
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    to be honest, if I would go on a holiday for a week, I would pay my friend more to cat sit (who lived next door). She would come twice a day and was making sure kitties are fed and happy. I also brought her presents after my holidays. Childcare is super expensive in the UK and £80 would be a pretty sweet deal.

    Suzi Q
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm glad her parents are on her side. If it's so easy to take care of two 1-year-olds and an 8-year-old, then it shouldn't be hard to find anyone else to do it for free (LOL!) The entitlement of the Aunt and Uncle is mind boggling!!!! At 18 she should be starting her life.

    Demi Zwaan
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If caring for 1 year old twins is so easy, let them take care of their own kids!

    Izzy Curer
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    2 years ago

    I want to know what people were saying on her aunt's facebook page. Were they agreeing with her, or were they calling her out? Or were they just silent because she always acts this way and then she lashes out at anyone who says anything?

    Helena R
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pay £55 a day for nursery for my 1yr old in the uk, there's no discount for multiples. It's £20 for my older kids after school care. £130 a day for three kids and that's the going rate outside of London. She NTA and honestly as mean as it is to those poor kids, she needs to go no-contact and leave them to find their own childcare. £80 a day would be cheap

    Karina Carr
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    By nursery, I assume you are referring to what we call daycare in Canada, not private nanny care like OP is providing. Private care would definitely be more!

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    Jerry Mathers
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It always seem that those that play the family card or the blood card are always those on the needing end of things. They love the idea that, by virtue of birth, they are somehow entitled to money, labor, housing, and virtually everything else that people need to work for to provide themselves. Bugger that

    Dorothy Parker
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why did the OP's parents allow the aunt and uncle to take advantage of their daughter to begin with? Twelve hours a day is brutal if there's no help. Having the piece of mind that you have a loving family member with your children is priceless. They should have been kissing her feet and paying her from the beginning. Shame on them.

    Katinka Min
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I be auntie has a blog called: How to Get a Free Nanny. What on earth is going on these people's head??? How do you keep a teenager, your own niece at that, from buiding a life? AND thinking this is normal behaviour??

    Jo Choto
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone who says they are doing you a favour, letting you work 60 hours a week for free, is at best taking advantage and at worst, deranged. And that's the issue here. Never mind wifi or food. The aunt can say what she likes to anyone she likes, but I imagine everybody will work out what the issue is.

    R Sayed
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    2 years ago

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    Mandie Ross-Warneck
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Taking care of someone else's child full time and not just a couple hours here and there is not just babysitting. If I am taking care of someone else's child in their home or mine on a full time basis I am their nanny, not their babysitter. Her aunt is gaslighting her calling her "entitled" for this. The aunt is the one who is entitled. She believes she's entitled to filling up someone else's full time workable hours and not pay them. The OP is not entitled, she actually sounds very reasonable and maybe even overly fair. I used to watch my sister (12 years younger than I) after achool and during the summer after I turned 18 and was living on my own. My mom paid me. I also took care of my niece and nephew full time while my SIL and brother worked, they also paid me. I absolutely loved this time I was able to spend with them, but in all practicality I could not just take care of them full time with no pay. I am happy to read though that her mom has her back on this.

    CL Rowan
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her aunt's behaviors are criminal. Taking advantage of family by manipulating them into working for free should be prosecutable. For those who argue that the kid can say No? Well, you say that to yourself when your relative whines to you and other family members about their 'needs' versus your 'selfishness' and 'greed' to dare to ask for compensation!

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    PepsiCoke
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If my sibling ever pull this stunt on my child, I promise all hell will break loose. However, I will stop my child to ever babysit for free in the first place.

    Karis Ravenhill
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Your aunt and uncle are cun*s, plain and simple. Don't feel bad about the family drama, just feel glad that your mother is standing up for you instead of taking her sisters side and whoring you out for free labor.

    Craig Reynolds
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA as in NEVER TA. Family is NEVER entitled to your time and definitely NOT discounted by any amount, let alone by that extreme. You don't owe them squat. They are losers and leaches and are the ones that are acting entitled. Frack!!! At this point, I would sue them for back wages. File a labor complaint and teach them a lesson in how to behave.

    Karina Carr
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a nanny. I would charge this family a MINIMUM of $1400 dollars per week (807 British pounds). That's $20/hr for the first 40 hours, and time and a half for the 20 hours of overtime. These parents are in for a rude awakening when they actually have to hire a nanny. Even if they charge only the minimum wage for 18-20yr olds in England, they would be making around 460 pounds per week. (More if they are older than 20). Their niece was barely asking for anything!

    Karina Carr
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, I'm the oldest of my cousins by at least 3 years, so I babysat everyone. All of my aunts and uncles always paid me, even if I was only there for a few hours. These "adults" are entitled assholes.

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    M. Robinson
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My friend's teens used to watch my kids and now my lawn for boxes of pop tarts or lunch at Arby's- but THEY set those rates not me(16 yo boys only career about snacks), then they got older and asked for $. $20 for 3 (later 4) kids was peanuts compared to what I would've paid a stranger so I could go get things done for and hour or two. If I didn't have it, I didn't ask, if I had it then "hey, you wanna make $20 today". Now the oldest is in the Army and stationed away, and the second is 18 but trades SOME basic work and services for rides across town. I would never have expected all day or all week for free. People are batshit crazy.

    Amber
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So they don't pay you,AND doesn't have food you can eat. NTA,you're keeping her kids alive.80 a week is underpayment. Leave them,you are taking care of basically toddlers and a small child. You're not being paid and 80 is less than your worth.

    Megzymonsta
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So sad to see an 18 year old taking on this much responsibility and being an amazing cousin just to have it blow up in their face the second they ask for a reasonable price for doing it. Even a minimum wage part time job would bring in almost double that amount and allow them to socialise outside of the family. 100% NTA, at 18 years old it's not really an option to sacrifice all your spare time to ungrateful family members when you should be out there finding your own place in the world. Maybe look into nursery work or something similar if you want to spend all your time around babies and kids but don't allow yourself to be abused by selfish people just because they feel entitled to your life

    Lilia Loewenberg
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The author did NOTHING wrong. If anything, the aunt and uncle are taking full advantage of this poor teen who was trying to help out and probably didn't realize the scope of the situation. Shame on them. They are the ones acting spoiled and entitled. I'm glad her mom stuck up for her and I hope she quit. Let them pay a stranger to watch their children while the teen moves on with her life and finds herself a good paying job.

    Marian Moore
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This 18 yr old has a life and its not babysitting her Aunt's kids. She needs her life to be free to get a decent job, maybe go to college, be a independent woman, find her own passion. I am glad her mom and dad are backing her. She does not owe her Aunt her life. Her Aunt knew exactly what she was doing and was hoping to continue taking advantage of her 18 yr old niece. Shame on her. She is the AH, not her niece. Don't return to babysit because the Aunt will do it again and again.

    Renita McAfee
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, women without children are expected to babysit for everyone for free, and I'm proud of all the women who are doing what my sister and I did and just say no, move away, and only answer the phone sparingly. I am so glad I moved away. Meanwhile, family are angry again 30 years later that I won't put my special needs kid in a home to move to their house and care for parents and grandkids.....yes, for free. They didn't ask that much. I don't say 'no' now, I have choice words that say more than just 'no'.

    toxxic
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want an update on stories like this. Glad to see her parents were on her side, since usually they aren't in these stories.

    Tenshi Scientia
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nta: my aunt n uncle used to let me babysit for my niece when she was 4-12 (I'm currently 33 but this was back when I was in my 20s and my niece is older now obviously) they were great about paying me. And I usually did overnights (6pm till the morning my parents picked me up) but I got food, I'd play on the video console when my niece got older, helped her with her homework, we were basically sisters. I'd end up with $20 each time but it was like maybe once or twice a month so I would say that was damn good. And if I was really lucky, it happened each weekend, which I NEVER complained about. Saving up that $20 got me a new game or a new accessory for the game console in my house, or it got me new clothing, or a new piece to a cosplay outfit I was unable to make by hand.

    Mad Mar
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe check what people working those hours get paid and explain that a job is a job. Regardless if you're flipping burgers or being a full time nanny. Plus if you have cpr training too that's more $ to a nanny. And basically required to do that job. Yes there are break times at reg jobs. Kids sleep. Small break. Lunch time most people buy their own food. You can't because they don't supply u food you can eat and you don't get paid to buy food to bring or have delievered. Then you also have a child u have to feed their food to and cleanup so there chef stuff and housekeeping. And tutor aka help with homework. You're better off out of that. And I'm surprised your mom let them go so long without paying you something.

    Karina Carr
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Legally, it would have to be at least minimum wage. Nannies can only be paid less than minimum wage if they are also being provided room and board. Minimum wage in England for 18-20yr olds is 6.56/hr. With all that overtime, she should be paid at least 450 pounds PER WEEK. A qualified/educated nanny would surely charge more, but that's the legal minimum.

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    Lemonclouds20
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honey, you'd be kind asking just £80 for a 12hr day. Just because it's family doesn't mean anything. They've taken advantage! If you're not pressured to have a job and having to pay bills / rent. Do something you'll enjoy. Art course , pottery course and be a librarian. Be an au pair abroad! Au pair in LA / France/ Monaco. Have an adventure!

    Heather Menard
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you know what daycare would charge? Also daycare makes parents pick kids up by 5 pm. 80 pounds a week is not even half a day.

    Karina Carr
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another commenter from England said her daycare would charge 130 pounds per day for the 3 kids. And you're right, daycares aren't open until 8pm. Every one I've ever worked for closed at 6. 7am to 6pm.

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    Catherine Spencer-Mills
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never had this problem, but I never babysat anyone's kids. I would rather do ironing for my aunt. OP is definitely NTA.

    angela reed
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd LOVE to hear the true response fro her ne'er-do-well aunt and uncIe. What a couple of ingrates! Good riddance !

    Carol Boshears
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are massively spoiled and entitled!And this is partially your fault for doing this for nothing in the first place. Tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine.

    G. T.
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I applaud OP for finally speaking up for herself and now allowing her aunt to force her to do slave labour. I applaud the mother for standing up for her daughter. The aunt is being an emotionally abusive bully, and by whining about it on her social feeds is attempting to encourage all her friends to do the same to her niece. Don't babysit for them anymore, EVER. And don't talk to them until they have apologized--really, sincerely apologized, not backing down in an attempt to still get cheap labour--both to them AND in a post on their social feeds every bit as visible to their buddies as their trash-talking was.

    Wendy
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For once I would love it if Bored Panda posted a scenario where it wasn't so incredibly obvious that the writer isn't the jerk. It seems like most of these types of posts have scenarios along the lines of "my ex murdered my entire family but blamed me because I like Hello Kitty. Am I the AH for liking Hello Kitty?"

    daniella J
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good morning family always wants to use their title to get out of things sad part is she spends unnecessary money money all the time that could probably help you asking for your worth is not wrong denying yourself of it is if she is not helping you in anyway you should be getting paid this is your first job would you work anywhere for free don’t think of people title think about the service and situation don’t let people walk over because they hold a title you’re worth is more than a title remember and demand it or go get a real job sad part she is Forced to pay somebody else when she could’ve paid you with no issues before it’s not your fault it’s your aunt is selfish

    AspieGirl88
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They called YOU entitled, when they expect their own flesh & blood to be their literal 21st century SLAVE?? Oh, the sick irony! Tell them to shove it up their greedy a$$e$, because you deserve to be treated better than that. Clearly, they have no respect for someone who has probably been parenting way better than they do & they need a stiff boot up the backside to wake up & see how the real world works! Don’t even think of agreeing to the $80 a week, honey. They don’t even deserve that. Let them pay full price for actual babysitting services & maybe they’ll realise just how wrong they were to treat you like that ... then again, such entitlement is rarely curable, SMH. 😑🤷‍♀️

    Buzz Anderson
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See how fast those two change their tune when they look to hire someone and see prices from150 pounds to 200. They are projecting when they whine about entitlement. Tell them to F off and don't worry about it. 72 hours a week for free? TO HELL WITH THEM.

    Cheyenne
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Holy sh*t, she should not only demand £100 per week minimum, she should demand back pay as well. Her aunt has one hell of a nerve. Quit immediately and tell the aunt “Pay me or pay a babysitter.”

    Brian Kirk
    Community Member
    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read enough of these and you will come to the conclusion that Family SUCKS.

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