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“She Actually Broke The Entire Board”: Friend’s Weight Leaves Host Couchless And Confused
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“She Actually Broke The Entire Board”: Friend’s Weight Leaves Host Couchless And Confused

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In life, we all have our fair share of embarrassing moments. But how they affect us depends entirely on how we choose to deal with them.

For this Redditor, that choice wasn’t so easy. They recently hosted a friend for a few nights, and everything seemed fine—until after the visit, when they noticed something unusual. The $1,500 couch their guest had slept on was broken. A real pity, to say the least.

Now, they’re stuck wondering: should they ask her to pay for the damage, or is that price too high to risk their friendship?

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    A woman stayed at her friend’s house for a few nights and accidentally broke their $1,500 couch

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    Now, the host is left wondering: should they ask her to pay, or is that price too high to risk their friendship?

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    How to have “difficult” conversations

    This situation is undoubtedly an uncomfortable one. The host is upset about their expensive couch. The friend feels terrible for breaking it. Neither of them wanted this to happen. Yet it seems that some kind of conversation is necessary to clear the air.

    These discussions are often labeled as “difficult,” but psychotherapist and retired palliative care physician Dr. Kathryn Mannix prefers a different term: “tender.” With decades of experience supporting patients and families through the complexities of incurable illnesses, Dr. Mannix has a deep understanding of how to manage strained interactions. She shares more about this in her book Listen: How to Find the Words for Tender Conversations.

    Of course, talking about a broken couch is far from the weight of discussing a terminal illness. Still, Dr. Mannix’s insights offer guidance that applies to many scenarios—“not just about end-of-life conversations, but about all those conversations that we feel a bit daunted about.”

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    The word “tender” resonates because it conveys empathy and acknowledges the vulnerability in both yourself and the person you’re speaking with. “It’s about being intentionally, fully present,” Dr. Mannix told Dr. Brian Goldman, host of CBC Radio One’s White Coat, Black Art.

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    Below are five key tips Dr. Mannix shares for handling tender conversations, as summarized by CBC.

    1. Start with a cup of tea: According to Dr. Mannix, the way you invite someone to a tender conversation sets the tone. Offering a warm beverage can be a meaningful gesture, especially when there’s a power imbalance. “It is a signal that we are now becoming people with each other,” she explains. A simple cup of tea or coffee says, “I’m here with you.”
    2. A conversation should be like a dance: Dr. Mannix likens tender conversations to a dance—where one person leads, but never forces. The balance comes through asking questions, allowing the other person to guide the flow. In this way, the leader becomes the listener, helping the conversation move naturally to where it needs to go.
    3. Be curious, open-minded and humble: Rather than rushing to offer advice, Dr. Mannix encourages asking open-ended questions, such as, “Do you have any information about this situation? Have you ever dealt with a problem like that in the past? If a friend had a problem like this, what would you advise them to do? What worries you the most about the situation?” These questions help the person articulate their thoughts, name their fears, and process their emotions at their own pace.
    4. Never use the phrase, “At least…”: While it may feel natural to encourage someone to look on the bright side, saying “at least” can come across as dismissive or hurtful. It minimizes their pain instead of validating it. As tempting as it may be, avoid this phrase altogether.
    5. Use the power of silence: Sometimes, the most impactful thing you can do is say nothing at all. “It’s just to shut up, get out of the way verbally and allow the person to feel those sorrowful or angry feelings and just be present,” Dr. Mannix says. “It’s incredible how much people want to help, but oftentimes, the most valuable gift at a moment of crisis is silent companionship.”

    The author shared in the replies that the friend knew about the damage but didn’t admit it out of shame

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    Many readers felt that asking her to pay might ruin the friendship and wasn’t worth it

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    Others, however, insisted that she should take responsibility and compensate for the couch

    After hearing the advice, the author made the choice to let it go and not ask their friend to pay

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    Nils Skirnir
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The complication isn’t the guest’s weight. It’s the fact that they knew it broke when they sat on it and should have said something. Folks who say the couch should handle 450 lbs are just silly. Sure it should if the weight’s distributed, but this is all in one spot. Many, many very high quality pieces of furniture can’t handle that. It’s not shaming, it’s the way it is

    Data1001
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, 400 lbs is not always just 400 lbs. If a 400-lb person sits down heavily, they are putting a *lot* more than 400 lbs of force on there.

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    Verena
    Community Member
    3 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    182kg... this is 2 to 3 average people. If one is overweight like that, special caution is necessary. Not only on the plane (did she book two seats?), but also when using furniture of others. If things get damaged by somebody using them, for whatever reason, then tell and cover the expenses for repairs or replacements. Why is this fat-shaming? 182kg is not a healthy weight. Edit: The concept of distributed weight seems difficult to understand for some. Drop 182 kg on one spot, or three times 60 kg on three spots 50 cm apart. Report back results.

    Claire Elise
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    Tabitha
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She admitted she knew she broke it, as she felt it when it snapped. But instead of fessing up, she covered it with pillows and said nothing. She should at least pay half, if not all, the replacement cost.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair it would already have been "covered with pillows". She just did nothing.

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    Noname
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My overweight "friend" broke my couch by dropping herself onto it, and while I assume she was very embarrassed about it, she reacted defensively and was angry with me although my only reaction was to say "omg!"

    Matt Du
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother has done this, he's big but not extremely overweight. But he just drops onto everything and gets defensive and angry, exactly the same if you mention it. He's far more careful with his own things, which makes it worse.

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    Angela C
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly the weight issue is completely irrelevant here. The friend should have owned up to breaking the couch and at the very least offered to help pay for a new one, if not completely cover the cost. I do however question how high quality of a couch it is. Typically when one sleeps on a couch they lay across the whole thing, so the weight distribution would be similar to multiple smaller people sitting on the couch.

    Sonya Lucic
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think your friend was probably very embarrassed and humiliated, which is probably why she didn't fess up right away or bring it to your attention. I would also like to point out that even if she offered to pay for it, you should only expect the value of the couch at the time it was broken, not full replacement value at time of purchase unless it was brand new. I am saying this because I saw it on Judge Judy many times...lol.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Instead she got on her plane (probably taking two seats for the price of one, ruining someone else's day) and ran away without a word.

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    AK
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $1500 is not a high quality couch, maybe "mid" as the kids say. My 70 pound dog broke the arm off my $1200 couch 10+ years ago, and my father in law flipped it over, went inside, and nailed it back together. It's still serviceable. This is what OP should do, maybe with an extra board.

    Katie Barnes
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We bought a 1200$ couch about 5 years ago and had to replace it this year, should have replaced it after 2 years. It was such a piece of c**p. I feel so ripped off and learned one brand not to buy again.

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    Pencil
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Side point: When buying furniture meant to sit or lay on, ALWAYS check the weight limits. When I was shopping for sofas just a few years ago, many of them had a weight limit of 400lbs (181kg) or so. Some were even lower. Three average sized women can easily exceed that let alone if there's a larger person in the mix. Like a man. Several dining chairs I looked at had a weight limit of 150lbs (68kg). My husband weighs about 210lbs. I'm glad I thought to check before buying or we'd be sitting on piles of sticks right now.

    meeeeeeeeeeee
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the comments says she will cut ties with the friend as the friend didn't know how to tell her she'd broken it...this is not a strong friendship. The op sounds like a c**t. What kind of friends do you dump because of that? Maybe she can't tell you things because your reaction is so extreme.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you generally break your friends s**t and then run away speechless out of embarrassment as a fully grown adult? You sound like a c**t, "meeeeeeee".

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    Gwyn
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    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    With the way we treat overweight people in this society I'm not surprised the friend was too ashamed to say anything about it. If it were me I wouldn't ask her to fix it. The couch should have been able to hold that much weight. But I would tell the friend to please know she can talk to me about it and didn't need to hide it, and ask her to be open with me in the future. If we can't have some empathy and understanding for other people, especially friends, we have to ask ourselves what kind of people we really are.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe b******t like this is why we treat overweight people like this in society? You made a mistake, NOW OWN IT. DONT blame your embarrassment, your fat, your lack of ability to lose the fat, or the perspectives of those around you. Because yes, we will all ALWAYS still think you're fat. Because you are. Shaming or building you up isn't going to change the fact that the couch is broken because you dumped 400+ pounds on it. The airplane seats aren't going to get bigger, or someone voluntarily skip their flight because you were too thoughtless to buy an extra seat to compensate for the extra person you're carrying. People are over the smiles and rainbows happy feeling b******t when it puts ourselves personally in a box. Why should I miss my flight or be uncomfortable for someone else's s****y lifestyle decisions? That's absurd!

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    Michael Largey
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being about 6'4", I weigh a lot more than the average person, and I've always had to be careful how I place my weight. If I had declined the safe option offered me (the air mattress) and insisted on the couch, I would feel a greater responsibility since it was my decision and my preference. And I certainly would have informed my hostess even if I clearly had no responsibility.

    Shannimal
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I am a guest in someone's home (even a family member) and I break something, I am 100% going to pay to fix or replace it. That's just being a decent human. There shouldn't be an argument here.

    RU Mymudder
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If two 200lb people sat on it ant the same time and it broke would she ask them to pay?

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with the people who say she can't prove it was her friend who broke it. The couch may have already been compromised prior to her friend sitting on it, for all we know. That does sound like a crappy, cheaply made couch for that price. Furniture sure isn't made like how it used to be made. I used to jump and do flips on my mom's old couch from the 80s. It never broke. We had multiple people sitting on it. See, even an obese person will distribute their weight across the couch when laying on it. So it would be like 2, 3, 4 people sitting on the couch. It should've handled that weight. Also, her friend didn't just spring on all that weight over night. She knew her friend was on the larger side, yet still agreed to accommodate her friend to the couch for the night without checking up on the weight limit the couch could handle.

    Melissa Harris
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Furniture in the 80s were built like battleships. My siblings and I too used the coach as an improved trampoline and it didn't so much as creak. It was terribly heavy and that's what finally doomed it when my mom moved about 10 years ago.

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    Erla Zwingle
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP suggested air mattress on the floor and her friend said no. This is ALL on the friend. A teachable moment? You bet it is, more for the friend than OP.

    Theresa Marshall
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She knew she broke it, she didn't tell you and covered it up, I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who treated me with such disrespect, ask for a contribution to the cost of replacement and then cut ties before she ruins any of your other possessions with her entitled views.

    Roland Nijveld
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that's why we have something like a responsibility insurance. Only costs a small fee and is for if you damage something outside your own house. That's also why we can't sue eachother to oblivion like in the US

    StarCrossedFriday
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t get the comment that went ‘I broke a chair once and I was 125 lbs - I think the problem is your couch’. How are those two things comparable? And none of this is ‘fat-shaming’ - as usual, many of the comments are insane. Frankly if I broke someone’s couch, I’d definitely mention it, and at least offer to pay whatever I could towards a replacement, especially if whoever owned the couch had been looking after me as much as OP had.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The whole fat shaming thing is a little dumb to me. If I walked around naked and were shamed for it, how absurd would it be to respond with "quit shaming my body you bully!" Nobody wants to see it. It's uncomfortable. I don't want to sit next to a naked guy touching me on an airplane for 4 hours. So I'm going to shame naked guys so they put on some clothes!... Right now the mentality is "it's just a d**k so deal with it".

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    DC and S
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So no one here has ever done something accidentally that was absolutely mortifying and they needed some time to process how to deal with it (including letting her host know)? Maybe the friend would have told her in a day or so, once she figured it out, including figuring out if/what she can contribute to fix it. I don't see this as a case of outright lying and deceit and intention to harm. But, everyone has their own opinion.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol great excuse. "I WAS going to tell her, just on my own time". Still an a*s

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    Jane L
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How old was the couch? I broke a solid wood futon once, but I had been plopping my 300-lb butt on it for 10 years. I agree that 400 lbs shouldn't break a couch, but if it was older, things gonna crack.

    Hassel Davidhoff
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The thing here for me is that she covered it up. I'm not an obese person but I'm not little either. I'm 200 lbs. If I broke someone's couch I'd fess up, apologize and offer to reimburse them or buy them another couch. Also, saying this happened because she is a big lady should not be controversial. However, you truly can't polish a turd so here we are having a pointless conversation about whether or not this was some kind of "fat shaming". We live in the most ridiculous timeline, clearly.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like our society needs a shot of DGAF. "You're fat shaming!" DGAF. "Our boy is really a girl!" DGAF. "You need to diversify your office!" DGAF. Let it sort itself out. We used to ignore the whiny little bitches, but at some point we gave them the microphone and they ran away with it.

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    Trillian
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, she knew her friend's weight and still had her sleep on that couch. She should have refused to host her or tell her to bring an appropriate air mattress. Unless the friend jumped around around the couch, I would not make them pay.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you know the weight of all of your friends? When is see fat, I think fat. Not 347.7 lbs.

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    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. The worst thing is that the friend kept it to herself before she left- and sending 'sad' faces when her host realised she'd broken the sofa?! And in the posts, peeps are trying to shame the OP, re: the reason it broke, like what? Don't dare say anything? Just suck it up? So many melts attacking peeps nowadays, due to feeling offended. I'm overweight: put on 3 stone when I hit around 60yrs, but I wouldn't expect people to tiptoe around me. If I'd broken someone's furniture, or whatever, due to my weight, I definitely wouldn't hide the fact - or act all innocent when caught out. Again, OP: NTA. Visitor: AH. YTAers: Get a flecking life.

    Pheolei
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its wild to me that someone would pay $1500 and not get Insurance. Any Appliances or furniture I get I always add it on. Because s**t happens.

    Nathan Lewis
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    Laura Rubicz
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The decent thing her friend could've done was at least be honest and brought it to her attention and offer to pay full on or partially. That's what I would have done if I knew I broke the couch. Whether the couch was cheap or well made shouldn't even matter.

    Sarah Morehouse
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad's joke when I started being a serial breaker of futons was "shear forces, huh?" (I could have flung him into the sun, except he was teaching me how to mend it.) A couch needs to be tough enough for 350 lbs worth of people having vigorous sex on it because you KNOW it's going to happen. If not at your house, at the house of whoever picks it off your curb. Not 350lbs sitting still, but 350 bouncing and smashing, ok? That is a LOT more strain than a 400lb person lying down (distributing their weight) peacefully. That couch was defective. Unfortunately, furniture be like that these days. Go to the Habitat Restore and get something old. Look at the underpinnings. Now take all the money you saved, go to Joann, and buy some clearance upholstery fabric. Take it to an upholsterer. There. Got yourself a vintage couch that will double as a bunker in certain disaster situations.

    Donna Peluda
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you put your mind to it you could probably fix it for a lot less. There must me something on you tube

    Alex Boyd
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If what broke was one piece of wood, that's probably a pretty straightforward fix. I would look for a general handyman to come look at it and see if they can do it; a furniture repair specialist will charge more. (Actually I would start by looking if I can figure something out, but if repair didn't even occur to this person as an option, they probably want to skip right to professional assistance.)

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the etiquette for buying a f****n meal bro. Not for replacing $1000s in damage you personally caused to someone else's livelihood. The correct etiquette in this situation would be to stfu and pay. And apologize for your dumb a*s.

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    Lailu
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I knowingly broke something that wasn’t mine, I’d be paying no matter how embarrassed I was. Prolly an unpopular opinion but shame on the supposed friend. This person has let you into their house and you break their s**t, don’t tell them and let them cop the repair/replacement costs? With friends like that, who needs enemies?

    Bryn
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tend to plop myself down on couches & they can break.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How's about not doing that so your s****y couches don't sit in a landfill? This is the problem with the world. You have two solutions. Sit slower. Lose weight. And you choose the response that not only doesn't solve the problem, but exacerbates it. This is why America is constantly on fire.

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    Ruth Watry
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would a compromise be giving you a portion of what she saved by not having to get a hotel room and pay for her own food?

    Chris the Bobcat
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If OP can get into the couch to determine what broke, odds are that it can be fixed. Boards can be replaced or reinforced and fabric can be stitched. I would do it myself, though OP may not be as self-reliant and could hire a handyman. A couch that expensive should be able to hold that weight better than this. Bill the woman for repairs and materials and call it a day.

    Wheeskers
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    Crystalwitch60
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m on the fence here ! One me sitting on won’t break lol n I’m not big I add but Yes she did wrong by hiding the fact she knew she broke it now that would p**s me right off I loath liars n that’s what she did basically lied by omission yes she’s obese but Other side of the fence here a 1500$ sofa should not be that s**t it breaks so easy oh n who spends that on a sofa in the real world anyway I’m in uk bought a new sofa first new one in 20 yrs after a divorce 13 yr ago now on my own with the kids 500 quid in a sale made to order it’s strong as comfy n lush n I have large dogs as jump on it does it break no have any of my sofas in my 60 years ever broken also no ! So you are the ah here for your attitude towards her over it ! She is better off with out u as a mate ! n next time get a decent sofa not a cheap tacky pos that u where ripped off over in first place but as someone else said they repaired one I’m sure it could be and also look on home insurance to mines covered on mine 🤷‍

    Verena
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What I take from this: If you are morbidly obese, you can break everything, because your friends should buy furniture accommodating your weight? Seriously?

    SkippityBoppityBoo
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The whole sofa thing aside? Why do people always suggest "Have a cup of tea/coffee"? I'm sensitive to caffeine, I can have a little bit but if I have too much? I get a migraine... Which would add to the drama fun! 😄 I would suggest offering water, caffeine can accelerate your heart rate, it's a stimulant which is why people have a cup of coffee to wake up. Caffeine may make their anxiety about the situation worse... Plus Dr Mannix advising against use of the term "at least"? It depends on what you've said to them beforehand. I've said it to try and lighten the mood... "Well... At least you're here and we're getting it sorted out... It's not good but it could be worse... At least we're not under attack by zombies or something!"... I guess? Just try and be as calming as possible. Say "I understand" and a friend who knows you, how you are? They won't take offence during a horrible occurrence when we can likely blurt out something that can sound insensitive, but do explain straight away.

    Broadredpanda
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think your friend hid it from you out of embarrassment. She lied, wrong but, I think the fact that she’s admitted it to you now shows she DOES actually value your friendship. She was wrong for lying though. She should pitch in towards a new couch.

    Maples Dad
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why? Because her morbidly obese friend broke something, obviously knew and ignored it?

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    Nils Skirnir
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The complication isn’t the guest’s weight. It’s the fact that they knew it broke when they sat on it and should have said something. Folks who say the couch should handle 450 lbs are just silly. Sure it should if the weight’s distributed, but this is all in one spot. Many, many very high quality pieces of furniture can’t handle that. It’s not shaming, it’s the way it is

    Data1001
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, 400 lbs is not always just 400 lbs. If a 400-lb person sits down heavily, they are putting a *lot* more than 400 lbs of force on there.

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    Verena
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    3 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    182kg... this is 2 to 3 average people. If one is overweight like that, special caution is necessary. Not only on the plane (did she book two seats?), but also when using furniture of others. If things get damaged by somebody using them, for whatever reason, then tell and cover the expenses for repairs or replacements. Why is this fat-shaming? 182kg is not a healthy weight. Edit: The concept of distributed weight seems difficult to understand for some. Drop 182 kg on one spot, or three times 60 kg on three spots 50 cm apart. Report back results.

    Claire Elise
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    Tabitha
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She admitted she knew she broke it, as she felt it when it snapped. But instead of fessing up, she covered it with pillows and said nothing. She should at least pay half, if not all, the replacement cost.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair it would already have been "covered with pillows". She just did nothing.

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    Noname
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My overweight "friend" broke my couch by dropping herself onto it, and while I assume she was very embarrassed about it, she reacted defensively and was angry with me although my only reaction was to say "omg!"

    Matt Du
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother has done this, he's big but not extremely overweight. But he just drops onto everything and gets defensive and angry, exactly the same if you mention it. He's far more careful with his own things, which makes it worse.

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    Angela C
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly the weight issue is completely irrelevant here. The friend should have owned up to breaking the couch and at the very least offered to help pay for a new one, if not completely cover the cost. I do however question how high quality of a couch it is. Typically when one sleeps on a couch they lay across the whole thing, so the weight distribution would be similar to multiple smaller people sitting on the couch.

    Sonya Lucic
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think your friend was probably very embarrassed and humiliated, which is probably why she didn't fess up right away or bring it to your attention. I would also like to point out that even if she offered to pay for it, you should only expect the value of the couch at the time it was broken, not full replacement value at time of purchase unless it was brand new. I am saying this because I saw it on Judge Judy many times...lol.

    Thanos'Fingers
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    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Instead she got on her plane (probably taking two seats for the price of one, ruining someone else's day) and ran away without a word.

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    AK
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $1500 is not a high quality couch, maybe "mid" as the kids say. My 70 pound dog broke the arm off my $1200 couch 10+ years ago, and my father in law flipped it over, went inside, and nailed it back together. It's still serviceable. This is what OP should do, maybe with an extra board.

    Katie Barnes
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We bought a 1200$ couch about 5 years ago and had to replace it this year, should have replaced it after 2 years. It was such a piece of c**p. I feel so ripped off and learned one brand not to buy again.

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    Pencil
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Side point: When buying furniture meant to sit or lay on, ALWAYS check the weight limits. When I was shopping for sofas just a few years ago, many of them had a weight limit of 400lbs (181kg) or so. Some were even lower. Three average sized women can easily exceed that let alone if there's a larger person in the mix. Like a man. Several dining chairs I looked at had a weight limit of 150lbs (68kg). My husband weighs about 210lbs. I'm glad I thought to check before buying or we'd be sitting on piles of sticks right now.

    meeeeeeeeeeee
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the comments says she will cut ties with the friend as the friend didn't know how to tell her she'd broken it...this is not a strong friendship. The op sounds like a c**t. What kind of friends do you dump because of that? Maybe she can't tell you things because your reaction is so extreme.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you generally break your friends s**t and then run away speechless out of embarrassment as a fully grown adult? You sound like a c**t, "meeeeeeee".

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    Gwyn
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    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    With the way we treat overweight people in this society I'm not surprised the friend was too ashamed to say anything about it. If it were me I wouldn't ask her to fix it. The couch should have been able to hold that much weight. But I would tell the friend to please know she can talk to me about it and didn't need to hide it, and ask her to be open with me in the future. If we can't have some empathy and understanding for other people, especially friends, we have to ask ourselves what kind of people we really are.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe b******t like this is why we treat overweight people like this in society? You made a mistake, NOW OWN IT. DONT blame your embarrassment, your fat, your lack of ability to lose the fat, or the perspectives of those around you. Because yes, we will all ALWAYS still think you're fat. Because you are. Shaming or building you up isn't going to change the fact that the couch is broken because you dumped 400+ pounds on it. The airplane seats aren't going to get bigger, or someone voluntarily skip their flight because you were too thoughtless to buy an extra seat to compensate for the extra person you're carrying. People are over the smiles and rainbows happy feeling b******t when it puts ourselves personally in a box. Why should I miss my flight or be uncomfortable for someone else's s****y lifestyle decisions? That's absurd!

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    Michael Largey
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being about 6'4", I weigh a lot more than the average person, and I've always had to be careful how I place my weight. If I had declined the safe option offered me (the air mattress) and insisted on the couch, I would feel a greater responsibility since it was my decision and my preference. And I certainly would have informed my hostess even if I clearly had no responsibility.

    Shannimal
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I am a guest in someone's home (even a family member) and I break something, I am 100% going to pay to fix or replace it. That's just being a decent human. There shouldn't be an argument here.

    RU Mymudder
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If two 200lb people sat on it ant the same time and it broke would she ask them to pay?

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with the people who say she can't prove it was her friend who broke it. The couch may have already been compromised prior to her friend sitting on it, for all we know. That does sound like a crappy, cheaply made couch for that price. Furniture sure isn't made like how it used to be made. I used to jump and do flips on my mom's old couch from the 80s. It never broke. We had multiple people sitting on it. See, even an obese person will distribute their weight across the couch when laying on it. So it would be like 2, 3, 4 people sitting on the couch. It should've handled that weight. Also, her friend didn't just spring on all that weight over night. She knew her friend was on the larger side, yet still agreed to accommodate her friend to the couch for the night without checking up on the weight limit the couch could handle.

    Melissa Harris
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    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Furniture in the 80s were built like battleships. My siblings and I too used the coach as an improved trampoline and it didn't so much as creak. It was terribly heavy and that's what finally doomed it when my mom moved about 10 years ago.

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    Erla Zwingle
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP suggested air mattress on the floor and her friend said no. This is ALL on the friend. A teachable moment? You bet it is, more for the friend than OP.

    Theresa Marshall
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She knew she broke it, she didn't tell you and covered it up, I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who treated me with such disrespect, ask for a contribution to the cost of replacement and then cut ties before she ruins any of your other possessions with her entitled views.

    Roland Nijveld
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that's why we have something like a responsibility insurance. Only costs a small fee and is for if you damage something outside your own house. That's also why we can't sue eachother to oblivion like in the US

    StarCrossedFriday
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t get the comment that went ‘I broke a chair once and I was 125 lbs - I think the problem is your couch’. How are those two things comparable? And none of this is ‘fat-shaming’ - as usual, many of the comments are insane. Frankly if I broke someone’s couch, I’d definitely mention it, and at least offer to pay whatever I could towards a replacement, especially if whoever owned the couch had been looking after me as much as OP had.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The whole fat shaming thing is a little dumb to me. If I walked around naked and were shamed for it, how absurd would it be to respond with "quit shaming my body you bully!" Nobody wants to see it. It's uncomfortable. I don't want to sit next to a naked guy touching me on an airplane for 4 hours. So I'm going to shame naked guys so they put on some clothes!... Right now the mentality is "it's just a d**k so deal with it".

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    DC and S
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So no one here has ever done something accidentally that was absolutely mortifying and they needed some time to process how to deal with it (including letting her host know)? Maybe the friend would have told her in a day or so, once she figured it out, including figuring out if/what she can contribute to fix it. I don't see this as a case of outright lying and deceit and intention to harm. But, everyone has their own opinion.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol great excuse. "I WAS going to tell her, just on my own time". Still an a*s

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    Jane L
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How old was the couch? I broke a solid wood futon once, but I had been plopping my 300-lb butt on it for 10 years. I agree that 400 lbs shouldn't break a couch, but if it was older, things gonna crack.

    Hassel Davidhoff
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The thing here for me is that she covered it up. I'm not an obese person but I'm not little either. I'm 200 lbs. If I broke someone's couch I'd fess up, apologize and offer to reimburse them or buy them another couch. Also, saying this happened because she is a big lady should not be controversial. However, you truly can't polish a turd so here we are having a pointless conversation about whether or not this was some kind of "fat shaming". We live in the most ridiculous timeline, clearly.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like our society needs a shot of DGAF. "You're fat shaming!" DGAF. "Our boy is really a girl!" DGAF. "You need to diversify your office!" DGAF. Let it sort itself out. We used to ignore the whiny little bitches, but at some point we gave them the microphone and they ran away with it.

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    Trillian
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, she knew her friend's weight and still had her sleep on that couch. She should have refused to host her or tell her to bring an appropriate air mattress. Unless the friend jumped around around the couch, I would not make them pay.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you know the weight of all of your friends? When is see fat, I think fat. Not 347.7 lbs.

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    StumblingThroughLife
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. The worst thing is that the friend kept it to herself before she left- and sending 'sad' faces when her host realised she'd broken the sofa?! And in the posts, peeps are trying to shame the OP, re: the reason it broke, like what? Don't dare say anything? Just suck it up? So many melts attacking peeps nowadays, due to feeling offended. I'm overweight: put on 3 stone when I hit around 60yrs, but I wouldn't expect people to tiptoe around me. If I'd broken someone's furniture, or whatever, due to my weight, I definitely wouldn't hide the fact - or act all innocent when caught out. Again, OP: NTA. Visitor: AH. YTAers: Get a flecking life.

    Pheolei
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its wild to me that someone would pay $1500 and not get Insurance. Any Appliances or furniture I get I always add it on. Because s**t happens.

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    Laura Rubicz
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The decent thing her friend could've done was at least be honest and brought it to her attention and offer to pay full on or partially. That's what I would have done if I knew I broke the couch. Whether the couch was cheap or well made shouldn't even matter.

    Sarah Morehouse
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad's joke when I started being a serial breaker of futons was "shear forces, huh?" (I could have flung him into the sun, except he was teaching me how to mend it.) A couch needs to be tough enough for 350 lbs worth of people having vigorous sex on it because you KNOW it's going to happen. If not at your house, at the house of whoever picks it off your curb. Not 350lbs sitting still, but 350 bouncing and smashing, ok? That is a LOT more strain than a 400lb person lying down (distributing their weight) peacefully. That couch was defective. Unfortunately, furniture be like that these days. Go to the Habitat Restore and get something old. Look at the underpinnings. Now take all the money you saved, go to Joann, and buy some clearance upholstery fabric. Take it to an upholsterer. There. Got yourself a vintage couch that will double as a bunker in certain disaster situations.

    Donna Peluda
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you put your mind to it you could probably fix it for a lot less. There must me something on you tube

    Alex Boyd
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If what broke was one piece of wood, that's probably a pretty straightforward fix. I would look for a general handyman to come look at it and see if they can do it; a furniture repair specialist will charge more. (Actually I would start by looking if I can figure something out, but if repair didn't even occur to this person as an option, they probably want to skip right to professional assistance.)

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the etiquette for buying a f****n meal bro. Not for replacing $1000s in damage you personally caused to someone else's livelihood. The correct etiquette in this situation would be to stfu and pay. And apologize for your dumb a*s.

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    Lailu
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I knowingly broke something that wasn’t mine, I’d be paying no matter how embarrassed I was. Prolly an unpopular opinion but shame on the supposed friend. This person has let you into their house and you break their s**t, don’t tell them and let them cop the repair/replacement costs? With friends like that, who needs enemies?

    Bryn
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tend to plop myself down on couches & they can break.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How's about not doing that so your s****y couches don't sit in a landfill? This is the problem with the world. You have two solutions. Sit slower. Lose weight. And you choose the response that not only doesn't solve the problem, but exacerbates it. This is why America is constantly on fire.

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    Ruth Watry
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would a compromise be giving you a portion of what she saved by not having to get a hotel room and pay for her own food?

    Chris the Bobcat
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If OP can get into the couch to determine what broke, odds are that it can be fixed. Boards can be replaced or reinforced and fabric can be stitched. I would do it myself, though OP may not be as self-reliant and could hire a handyman. A couch that expensive should be able to hold that weight better than this. Bill the woman for repairs and materials and call it a day.

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    Crystalwitch60
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m on the fence here ! One me sitting on won’t break lol n I’m not big I add but Yes she did wrong by hiding the fact she knew she broke it now that would p**s me right off I loath liars n that’s what she did basically lied by omission yes she’s obese but Other side of the fence here a 1500$ sofa should not be that s**t it breaks so easy oh n who spends that on a sofa in the real world anyway I’m in uk bought a new sofa first new one in 20 yrs after a divorce 13 yr ago now on my own with the kids 500 quid in a sale made to order it’s strong as comfy n lush n I have large dogs as jump on it does it break no have any of my sofas in my 60 years ever broken also no ! So you are the ah here for your attitude towards her over it ! She is better off with out u as a mate ! n next time get a decent sofa not a cheap tacky pos that u where ripped off over in first place but as someone else said they repaired one I’m sure it could be and also look on home insurance to mines covered on mine 🤷‍

    Verena
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What I take from this: If you are morbidly obese, you can break everything, because your friends should buy furniture accommodating your weight? Seriously?

    SkippityBoppityBoo
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The whole sofa thing aside? Why do people always suggest "Have a cup of tea/coffee"? I'm sensitive to caffeine, I can have a little bit but if I have too much? I get a migraine... Which would add to the drama fun! 😄 I would suggest offering water, caffeine can accelerate your heart rate, it's a stimulant which is why people have a cup of coffee to wake up. Caffeine may make their anxiety about the situation worse... Plus Dr Mannix advising against use of the term "at least"? It depends on what you've said to them beforehand. I've said it to try and lighten the mood... "Well... At least you're here and we're getting it sorted out... It's not good but it could be worse... At least we're not under attack by zombies or something!"... I guess? Just try and be as calming as possible. Say "I understand" and a friend who knows you, how you are? They won't take offence during a horrible occurrence when we can likely blurt out something that can sound insensitive, but do explain straight away.

    Broadredpanda
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think your friend hid it from you out of embarrassment. She lied, wrong but, I think the fact that she’s admitted it to you now shows she DOES actually value your friendship. She was wrong for lying though. She should pitch in towards a new couch.

    Maples Dad
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why? Because her morbidly obese friend broke something, obviously knew and ignored it?

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