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“I Find This So So So Wrong”: Employee Refuses To Use Life360, Boss Loses It
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“I Find This So So So Wrong”: Employee Refuses To Use Life360, Boss Loses It

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When your boss decides to implement a new policy, the easiest thing to do is simply agree. Even if you question their judgment or know there’s a better way, it’s not always worth it to expend energy arguing.

But when one lawyer’s boss decided to enact a policy that she considered a violation of boundaries, she refused to sit back and go along with it. Below, you’ll find the full story that the woman recently posted on Reddit detailing her boss’ big idea, as well as some of the replies readers shared.

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    But when this woman’s boss decided to start tracking employees, she refused to comply

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    Later, the lawyer added some more details about the situation

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    Employers are allowed to track company devices

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    Location tracking can be extremely useful if your child starts taking a little too long to get home from school or your spouse never seems to answer their phone. It’s nice to be able to check in on a loved one and make sure that they’re where they’re supposed to be. And if they’re not, well, it can be extremely important to be able to find them.

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    But would you let your boss track your location? According to Simply Unified, whether or not employers should be able to track their employees on their personal phones is a bit of a gray area. Companies are allowed to keep an eye on their workers in terms of anything that has to do with their actual work. For example, if they’re using the internet, sending emails or driving a company vehicle, they should expect to be monitored.

    When it comes to personal phones, however, bosses will not be allowed to track location and usage unless the employee has given them permission. Now, there are some benefits for employers who are able to track their workers. CompanyMileage notes that this can allow bosses to verify travel expenses, improve efficiency and monitor workers for compliance purposes.

    It’s valid to have security concerns about tracking apps

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    However, legal issues can arise when bosses try to track an employee’s personal devices, especially when the worker is off the clock. For this reason, CompanyMileage recommends only monitoring employees “to the extent in which it’s necessary by your business.” It’s definitely not necessary to keep an eye on them at all hours, and it may not even be required to know exactly what they’re doing during every minute of the work day.

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    One of the issues that the lawyer in this story had with being tracked on Life360 was the potential for a data breach. And this is a valid concern, especially considering that it wouldn’t be the first time. In July, a database containing emails, phone numbers and full names of 442,519 Life360 users was leaked onto the dark web, Tech Radar reports.

    Experts spoke to Security Magazine about the breach, noting that it likely occurred due to a lack of multi-factor authentication in the Life360 app. Logging in with simply a username and password makes it far too easy for hackers to get access. And even though the information leaked in this case was not particularly sensitive, victims may still feel violated knowing that their information is in the hands of “in the hands of cybercriminals,” Cybersecurity Evangelist Anne Cutler told Security Magazine.

    Micromanaging employees is never a good idea

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    “All organizations have an inherent obligation to protect their users and their users’ data. When a company is a custodian of personal information, it requires a much higher bar for security and monitoring than other types of organizations,” Cutler shared. “Companies should regularly audit their data inventory to not only ensure compliance, but to also make sure that they are only retaining the sensitive data that is required.”

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    There are other potential issues with Life360 as well. UMobix notes on their site that the company has also been caught selling the data locations of their users to third parties. The company creates a false sense of security by marketing itself as a safe option for parents who want to keep an eye on their kids, when in reality, it’s just a company keeping an eye on millions around the globe.

    Some also believe that, instead of improving relationships, tracking apps like Life360 can actually erode trust. And the same can be said in the workplace. It’s widely known that micromanaging employees can hurt morale, waste managers’ time, increase turnover rates, cause manager burnout and create dependent employees. Is all of that really worth it just to know exactly where your workers are every minute of every day? 

    We would love to hear your thoughts on this situation below, pandas. Then, feel free to check out another Bored Panda article discussing GPS tracking!

    Readers called out the employer for his unreasonable request, and many noted that they would not agree to this either

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    Adelaide Ross

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    Howdy, I'm Adelaide! I'm originally from Texas, but after graduating from university with an acting degree, I relocated to sunny Los Angeles for a while. I then got a serious bite from the travel bug and found myself moving to Sweden and England before settling in Lithuania about two years ago. I'm passionate about animal welfare, sustainability and eating delicious food. But as you can see, I cover a wide range of topics including drama, internet trends and hilarious memes. I can easily be won over with a Seinfeld reference, vegan pastry or glass of fresh cold brew. And during my free time, I can usually be seen strolling through a park, playing tennis or baking something tasty.

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    Adelaide Ross

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    Howdy, I'm Adelaide! I'm originally from Texas, but after graduating from university with an acting degree, I relocated to sunny Los Angeles for a while. I then got a serious bite from the travel bug and found myself moving to Sweden and England before settling in Lithuania about two years ago. I'm passionate about animal welfare, sustainability and eating delicious food. But as you can see, I cover a wide range of topics including drama, internet trends and hilarious memes. I can easily be won over with a Seinfeld reference, vegan pastry or glass of fresh cold brew. And during my free time, I can usually be seen strolling through a park, playing tennis or baking something tasty.

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    Kotryna is a Photo Editor at Bored Panda with a BA in Graphic Design. Before Bored Panda, she worked as a freelance graphic designer and illiustrator. When not editing, she enjoys working with clay, drawing, playing board games and drinking good tea.

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    Kotryna Br

    Kotryna Br

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    Kotryna is a Photo Editor at Bored Panda with a BA in Graphic Design. Before Bored Panda, she worked as a freelance graphic designer and illiustrator. When not editing, she enjoys working with clay, drawing, playing board games and drinking good tea.

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    AndyR
    Community Member
    3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On my personal phone? Good luck with that. On my work phone? Guess what's getting left on my desk...

    MoMcB
    Community Member
    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a work phone and a personal phone. Tracking isn't going on either of them.

    Amelia Jade
    Community Member
    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's alarming that so many people (according to the poll) are okay with be tracked if it is on a company phone. You're not children--you shouldn't be treated as such. Why have we normalized this kind of behavior? We reward good work and high profits with pizza parties like we're 5th graders who all got 100% on the weekly spelling test. We allow bosses to dictate what we do in our own time like they're our parent. And now they're even tracking employees? I wouldn't even track my actual kids because I respect them and trust them. This is just ridiculous. I don't want to work for a boss who thinks of me as an untrustworthy child.

    LuckyTanuki
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why? Because the economy is s*** and jobs are scarce. You are employed by the company, so as long as they aren't breaking the law, what they say goes. Don't like it? Quit, but good luck finding a job in a similar field with all the same perks that one had, including whatever vacation time you have saved up for however many years you worked there.

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    AndyR
    Community Member
    3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On my personal phone? Good luck with that. On my work phone? Guess what's getting left on my desk...

    MoMcB
    Community Member
    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a work phone and a personal phone. Tracking isn't going on either of them.

    Amelia Jade
    Community Member
    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's alarming that so many people (according to the poll) are okay with be tracked if it is on a company phone. You're not children--you shouldn't be treated as such. Why have we normalized this kind of behavior? We reward good work and high profits with pizza parties like we're 5th graders who all got 100% on the weekly spelling test. We allow bosses to dictate what we do in our own time like they're our parent. And now they're even tracking employees? I wouldn't even track my actual kids because I respect them and trust them. This is just ridiculous. I don't want to work for a boss who thinks of me as an untrustworthy child.

    LuckyTanuki
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why? Because the economy is s*** and jobs are scarce. You are employed by the company, so as long as they aren't breaking the law, what they say goes. Don't like it? Quit, but good luck finding a job in a similar field with all the same perks that one had, including whatever vacation time you have saved up for however many years you worked there.

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