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Ever wished you knew something sooner? Something that would've made your life a tad easier, perhaps? 

We toil away at our jobs for the bulk of our lives, and it's no big news what kind of effect it has on our well-being. A discussion recently arose online – that garnered a whopping 115K upvotes – about the biggest lessons folks ever learned throughout their careers. And although the observations listed below will not make your retirement age come faster, taking a thing or two into consideration could definitely help you feel a little more in control!

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#1

“Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them The reward for good work is more work.

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BlueEyesWhiteDragon
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only time it makes sense to go above and beyond is if you own your own business.

Alexia
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Always. And you get manipulated: "it's better if you take over this project too, you're the one we trust most" etc.

StrangeOne
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've noticed the manipulation at every job I've had. All the supers.' and managers think they know you better than you know yourself.

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Id row
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More work, more getting yelled at, first to get fired. It's the nepos, a*s kissers and credit hogs that get rewarded. I'm so happy to be retired out of office culture. The petty cr*p that goes on can rival any telanovela out there.

kim davies
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree 100% - oh, you’re such a valued employee, here’s another 5 day’s worth of work we need done in an hour 🙄

Dawnieangel76
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've coined it through "Curse of Competency". It's my life story.

Beau McLarty
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am retired. I wish I had started working toward this freedom to own my own land, build my own house, and make my own way a bunch sooner.

Aussie Bloke
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being employed has taught me I wish I didn't need to be employed.

rodger coghlan
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The really odd expression I heard is "give the work to the busiest worker to get things done"

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    #2

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them I saw this over and over again. A productive employee gets buried and burnt out while the slackers enjoyed a work-life balance and smokes with the Boss.

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    R Dennis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a guy who was always kissing our district leader's a*s. I would end up doing all of the work while he sat for 45 minutes, lips at full suction. He eventually got promoted. He sucked as a boss: lazy, rude, made sexual comments about teen employees. He eventually moved to another location and I was passed over for promotion again. The new manager told me why: he was blaming me for all the failures at our location. He didn't last long without me to throw under the bus and left two months later. As much as that guy sucked, I lost any respect for the district leader because he should have seen through the bs.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sad how every employer tolerates smokers taking smoke breaks, most anytime they please, while non-smokers are compensated in no way what so ever. One place I worked, one manager would spend at least 1/2 of their 8 hour shift outside smoking. Store was already understaffed. Many customers when approaching the store would see how many cars were in the lot. If it was more than 2 they'd drive right on by because that meant there were already 2 waiting to be assisted.

    Simple
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, slackers are the ones who later go on to become boss and smoke with their slackers in the team?

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not even a nepotism thing. I'm guilty of it myself as a former manager. My biggest gripe was that you can't just fire someone for cause, even at 'hire at will' jobs. If 'Joe' calls out 3 times this week, we have to reassign his tasks. If it's not calling out, it's someone not doing their job. And if it's a performance issue, nothing ever comes of write ups because corporate doesn't want to fire anybody. Managers don't always have the power you think. We can write someone up but HR has to approve most firings. And it's because they don't want anyone to collect unemployment pay-that's what it boils down to. I often asked a lot of my best worker because she was the only one I didn't have to babysit and could trust. She quit-rightfully- because she saw the benefit never came due to the inability of me to hold staff accountable. And she new I wasn't just 'letting stuff go'. You lose good workers because they're being abused and other get away with murder because of how the system is.

    Mystery Egg
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    worked in a team with people like this. Thankfully, the boss isn't an idiot; the hard workers got raises and bonuses at the beginning of the year and the slackers didn't. They all quit within a year of starting.

    Red Hair Blue Soul
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or at my company, goes out getting drunk with the boss

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The hard worker , should not do their work . If the slack off , it's on them . Not on you. In my opinion....

    Eva Bella
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am making a good salary from home $6580-$7065/week , which is amazing under a year ago I was jobless in a horrible economy. I thank God every day I was blessed with these instructions and now its my duty to pay it forward and share it with Everyone, Here is I started__________ 𝐰𝐰𝐰.𝐧𝐞𝐭𝐩𝐚𝐲𝐟𝐚𝐬𝐭.𝐜𝐨𝐦

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    #3

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Do 1,000 tasks, and 999 of them are done perfectly, but guarantee the 1 that wasn’t perfect is the only task that will be talked about.

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    von Funnyname
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    we had a very different, and vulgar, way of saying that where I used to work... but 100% true at any rate

    Kelly F
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can build a thousand bridges, but you f**k one goat.....

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    Chucky Cheezburger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep...one eff up can wipe away 10 attaboys.

    Best Behave
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don’t do that task, delegate to someone else…

    A Jones
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Toxic parents be like this too.

    Jude Laskowski
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or when you always arrive at work 15 minutes early, then a year later, you're 5 minutes late one day and your boss says "Nice of you to show up." He tried to fire me, but I won.

    Frazzled Mama
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the ESSENCE of my performance improvement plan right now. Absolutely infuriating.

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    #4

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Loyalty is expected but not reciprocated.

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    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was accused of stealing by the owner. Then I was expected to buy her a birthday gift,a week later. Nope

    Erica Knapp
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We can file this with the "work is not your family" file...smh

    Headless Roach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?

    kitten levels tokyo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was going to do a post called “Hey pandas, what do you think happened to Headless Roach and Zara the squiddy squid?” But I guess I won’t now. Welcome back!

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    Enlee Jones
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Loyalty doesn’t count for s**t. Your workplace will drop you in a heartbeat to save a buck, like mine did after I had been there for 10 years. I was given 2 minutes to get my stuff from my desk and escorted out like a criminal. Didn’t even have a chance to say goodbye to my coworkers.

    DarkViolet
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You said it, comrade! I gave 17 years of my life to a worthless job, only to be shown the door because of my "attitude." (In truth, this church started a $15M building project, stopped giving cost-of-living increases, and didn't want to continue paying my salary. Most of the other staff had already jumped ship.) I figuratively--and literally--shook the dust from my shoes when I left.

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    Laura Rodrigues
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeahhhh. I gotta say this one was a hard work lesson….

    L hill
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Found this out during covid.

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    #5

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Toxic work environments do not change. Get out quickly.

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    Doyle Alan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work in a very toxic environment that is thanks to just one person. When they were reported by numerous employees was told by the boss that they're retiring soon and it's cheaper to just wait it out. 19 more weeks. I hope I make it.

    smolspeedycats
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A toxic coworker can do plenty in 19 weeks. But so can you (hint: any microwaves near them? Any particular, ah, 𝘧𝘪𝘴𝘩 dishes that you are fond of as a light luncheon?)

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    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do not trust open-door policies. It's a way to trick employees to bring their guards down and spill too much info that can be used against you later. Plus, if your job has a policy against discussing wages, then it wouldn't make sense to have an open-door policy, too. That's what you have to watch out for.

    DarkViolet
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the job has a policy against discussing wages, then that job is on the chopping block, and the axe is raised. Prohibiting employees from discussing wages is against the law. Big time.

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    Emily M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "reporting harassment doesnt work" post on this thread needs this advice

    Raymond Dannelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Toxic environments -do- change. Usually by getting worse.

    Bad Mole
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They do when the company goes out of business.

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    #6

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Always get the promotion or raise in writing. Never trust a manager's hand shake.

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    Amy S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they only tell you verbally, follow it up with an email so you have a paper trail.

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Always, get it in Written form ! Even if you say you trust the higher up. They can deny that anything is said or done.

    AliJanx
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HR Here: if it's not in writing, don't get your hopes up.

    DeoManus Argentem
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even the littlest things! From PTO to "can I come in two hours late on Tuesday?" Email can be even better than physical approvals because it'll never get "accidentally" lost and is time-stamped!

    Yvette Desmarais
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never take a job based on promises for the future like promotions. You are hiring into whatever you are getting now. Not some sort of future change.

    JPotts
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was promised a raise after 3 months. Then they said no. I left shortly after that.

    Chucky Cheezburger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And even then, its not a guaranteed thing.

    Bec
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Local office wanted to pay me above regular rate when I got a promotion, after waiting months to get a pay change because of head office, it was not what I had been offered. My managers and I conference called in to ask why and was told at one point that I lived in a right-to-work state and they could just fire me. Local folks were apologetic, I had to just keep working there as it was the recession. They also screwed me on starting my health insurance over a miscommunication that meant I had to wait about 9 months for the next open enrollment to roll around.

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    #7

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Nobody at work gives a s**t about your well-being. You have to be the one that looks out for yourself. Take the damn sick day and don’t feel bad about it. You got one life and trust once you die they’ll replace you before you’re even cold. Be happy.

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    Apatheist Account2
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That really isn't true. I've had a couple of bosses who were extremely thoughtful and considerate of me and my well-being - one to the extent of getting the company to pay for some counselling to help me understand why I got stressed in certain situations (which I now understand, and how to cope with them). Sadly, it's quite a low percentage of bosses, but I'd like to think as a manager that I took a significant interest in my staff as people.

    Chucky Cheezburger
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dunno why you were downvoted, because you're right. Not every workplace is full of bees. The ones that do give a damn may be few and far between, but they do exist.

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    Sonja
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take that sickday early on when you feel down and give your body a day of rest to fire up your immune system. You can get away with one sick day early on when you feel the first signs of a cold like feeling cold and being extremely tired and feel fine the next day. If you ignore the first sign, you might still get away with three sick days and some medication if you take off as soon as your nose gets stuffy and your throat feels rough. But if you ignore this too the cold will fully break out and you'll need at least a week rest if not more to get rid of it. If you then still keep working the simple cold can become chronical and you'll have it gor the rest of your life IF YOU'RE LUCKY or even permanently damage your immune system. And that goes for any sickness that's common and can heal out on its own. First signs are not too bad, one or two days rest and it's done and gone. Wait a little too long and you'll need more time to recover ignore it and you might even die.

    Sonja
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom died last year from stupid shingles. She saw the rash and felt the itch but insisted it was just a rash. It infected her internal organs and she died from multiple organ failure within a week. Every sickness is an infection of some kind. And any infection can kill you, even if it's just a toothache or a rash. Take that stupid sickday and if it doesn't go away, let it check out. Your job isn't worth your life.

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    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My current job seems to care but they do look for patterns, such as common days being taken off close together often. I don't trust my supervisors really care. Went to work with a runny nose and a feeling a bit off but just able to work the whole day, with a mask on. One of my close team members told me not to come in if I'm feeling more sick tomorrow. This morning I felt tons worse so I did. A lot of people are away this week, leaving them heavily understaffed. Not my problem. I know one co-worker who works close to my area that came to work still unwell, but masked. Another lady has been walking around sneezing. Shouldn't come as a surprise to them.

    Matt Harrell
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the worst things about America is that employers don't have to give you paid time off. Or vacation. Or even holiday pay.

    Kim Steffen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you die on the job, your placement will just step over your dead body.

    Mystery Egg
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not true in my work. They look after us really well with monthly reimbursements for therapy, massages or other 'wellness' activities that help our bodies and minds.

    DarkViolet
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dang! I could have used a work environment like THAT!

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    AMaureen Dance
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've said that there'll be someone new in your chair, before you're in the ground.

    kim davies
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read somewhere that a guy worked at an insurance place and they wouldn’t give him any time off for sick leave because he had been diagnosed with a terminal illness. He passed away and for days after he was getting phone calls and registered letters threatening his job if he didn’t come in to work, which he couldn’t because he was dead. His daughter answered a call and screamed at the CEO - “my dad can’t come to work because he’s dead”! There was utter silence on the other end then an audible click. They never even sent flowers or anything. Some work places you get lucky and you’re supported but other not so much.

    Seadog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My current job isn't like this and I'm not at all easily replaced. I'm currently 15 months into training my replacement. She has another 7 years to learn it all. And a replacement for her will have to be found roughly 2 years before the hand off.

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    #8

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them One of the earliest lessons imparted to me by an older co-worker in one of my first jobs was: "Never get good at something you hate doing. Once you're good at it, they'll never let you do anything else."

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    Weasel Wise
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And yet my mindless perfectionism wins again.

    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't find that at my job. It's more like the what you admit to enjoying that will be the least you'll be doing.

    Bec
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am also fortunate to have a local top leader who wants people to be happy in their work and encourages helping develop people to get them where they want to be

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    Kate Jones
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish I could find out what I like doing so that I can stop doing things I hate.

    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good luck with the quest, it might last a long time.😅

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    #9

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Lazy coworkers (probably) get paid as much as you.

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    Laura Lett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What if the lazy worker is the owner?

    P.A. Yearsley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes lazy coworkers do get paid as much as you. Quit giving away your time for free and preform your job with calculated mediocrity.

    Beth Gietl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, had a new hire who did NOTHING and he got paid the same as me, I had worked 12 years at that point. Did his college homework at work and myself and another employee did his job.

    Seadog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Worse is a worker in the same position at another location that makes more and does less.

    Celena Camps
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But they have less options to move around or get promoted..

    Mystery Egg
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    but they don't last. You never have to put up with a lazy colleague for long.

    LovingKnuckle
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This can be true. And the fact that I didn’t earn more for doing more didn’t bother me as much as how little they got away with. But I will tell you this, it doesn’t happen all the time, but I caught they eye of some very important people. And when 2 of my colleagues and myself were making below average for our field and people were leaving and making much more money, I was able to secure a $25k raise for all 3 of us in an afternoon from a conversation with the VIP of VIPs. If you are getting run over leave, but if you play it right it is possible to ultimately benefit quite well from doing more for less for a bit.

    BenTevye
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, you mean not everyone should get paid the same no matter what? You mean people who do more should get more? Careful, you are bucking the current dogma.

    Geoffrey Scott
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My malicious compliance was to make sure MY areas of responsibility were taken care of. When asked to pitch in to help the (less than enegetic) co-worker, I ALWAYS had another task to do. Nope,Nope,Nope

    Bruce Horton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially if you work at a unionized workplace. Otherwise not so much. I regularly rewarded high performers more than others. They were the ones that helped the company and me reach goals and I obviously wanted to keep them because finding good employees as both hard and risky.

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    #10

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them 80% of work is done by 20% of employees

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    Leo Domitrix
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And 80% of the employees are sure they're in the 20% doing the work.

    Victoria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's closer to 80 percent of the value in the company is provided by 20 percent. The other 80 percent do the grunt work required for functioning and are fungible. The trick is to be in the 20 percent, and find jobs where you'll be in that category.

    Craig Boddys
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Best thing to do is not stand out for any reason. Be mediocre, be perfectly average. That way the management just leave you alone. Praise usually equals more work for little to no reward. Getting in trouble or being lazy could cost you your job. Just be quiet, average, keep your head down and do your job, and you'll usually be left alone to just get on with it.

    Len Helm
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tried this-actually thought I had succeeded...until a new EGO sat in the throne of my food chain!! For 6 years I have been wearing shorts, I'm a FIRM believer that my body is meant for almost knee length shorts ~ definitely NO daisy dukes here! I inspect businesses so I get in & out of my car A LOT, sometimes going a block or 2. I live in an area with high heat/humidity so my car isn't cooling down between businesses. Capris/jeans are too hot! I was told that there was a complaint. I find it hard to believe a taxpayer is going to complain about a government employee who is your inspector -esp after 6 years! I go into the office on rare occasions, maybe 4-5 times a YEAR, but I am 99% sure that the most toxic person I have ever encountered and who makes me believe that there is NOT enough duct tape, plastic bags or concrete in the world to save the world from her toxicity ~complained! Her & now Mr Ego with a gun & badge make me not love what I do anymore! So 3,267 days until I retire!!

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    Headless Roach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The 80% keep silent and do nothing, tell others to keep silent and also do nothing or just talk a lot about doing.

    Laura Lett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of the three in my job, only two of us are doing the work.

    Cavern Gill-Vernon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah but.... I'm one of the 20% and I make WAY more money per job than the 80% do. One of my jobs this week made over 10,000% more than one of her jobs. In the same time span, I can make 10k a day whereas she'll struggle to make £300

    Cavern Gill-Vernon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For clarification, I'm not lazy. But jobs are just way, WAY harder. I don't do repairs, I actually handmake things.

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    #11

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Being a convincing bullshi***r is more important than being a competently talented. See Elon Musk.

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    Kate Jones
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The biggest regret of my work life was assuming we were all playing by the same rules. I've been on my own since I was 17 and didn't get a lot of advice. Even at school, I would ask about internships and they never had an answer for me. So when I got my degree figured I'd start at the bottom and work my way up because that sounds logical. But that's not how it works. Silly me believed I couldn't apply for those higher paying jobs because I was going by what the ad asked for. Now I know- the higher ups at my company have never done the job I do and wouldn't know how if they tried. They started in the middle or higher. They just lied. Which is why they're always so happy- they've never had to be in the gutter like the rest of us and call us negative when we point out problems. My direct supervisor does not know how to do my job. How ridiculous is that? How can you be in charge of me if you don't know how to do the job I do? How can you improve systems if you don't know what they're for?

    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    🤔🤨 This sounds like someone had "connections"and landed that position. Find a better place soon!

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    Stephanie Adamson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think our current society confuses brazen confidence with ability. So the guy who says he can do everything will get the job, as opposed to the person (often a woman) who is more truthful and humble. So you end up with a boss that doesn’t know how to do a good job. The humble intelligent person would probably be the much better fit.

    Seadog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not more important but certainly more accepted.

    Mary Mosher
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An old, favourite quote of mine ... "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with b*llsh*t ..."

    Hei Hei
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Musk, nothing. Try Trump.

    Amanda Christensen
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    2 years ago (edited)

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    And yet, he's worth more than y'all. Jealousy is a b***h. Edit: such salty babies. Life's not fair. Get over it ✌️

    TotallyNOTaFox
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, who would think that being the son of a literal diamond mine owner would provide better opportunities in life...

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    #12

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them We had a deadline to turn in our month's worth of work. My wife had previously worked there, and advised me to get my work done ahead of the deadlines, but be secretive about it, and turn it in at the end of the month. Worked like a charm.

    jefuchs , Sora Shimazaki Report

    Laura Lett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The wise man ,who actually listened to his wife.

    Chucky Cheezburger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because you just know that if management found out that they had things done before the deadline, they'd pile on and expect more work to be done

    DeoManus Argentem
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to work 4pm-midnight and though salaried, was supposed to stay until at least midnight even if all my work had been completed hours early. I learned that if I compiled all my "midnight reports" (which required local access to the company intranet, could not be compiled remotely/from home) and attached them an email at my work computer, but left it as a draft, I could go home at 8 or 9, and wait until midnight and sign into my Office365, and send the draft it would look like I sent it from work at midnight! A few times I forgot and didn't send it until 3 or 4am and the next day everybody was so impressed how late I stayed (presumably to solve a crisis or assist another department/manager). ;)

    Bec
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is your wife Montgomery Scott of the USS Enterprise?

    Seadog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm betting that is partly due to them at some point suddenly changing the deadline and if you're already done then you don't have to suddenly work your butt off to meet the new one.

    v
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's called sandbagging.

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    #13

    I am 78 years old and I learned decades ago that every one can be replaced, even the higher-ups.

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    kitten levels tokyo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are all just candles in the wind…

    DarkViolet
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never knowing whom to cling to when the rains come in.....

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    IndigoViolent
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's as it should be. It's called the bus factor - as in, "If this person was hit by a bus, how screwed would we be?" If your answer is "completely", then you're running things badly. So yes, you should always have a backup plan for if someone has to leave.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And now if your job can be done remotely, it's time to find a new job because it's just a matter of time before they figure out it's cheaper to have it done abroad.

    Len Helm
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty sure this ISN'T true where I work! Everyone makes accommodations for her and her toxicity! They say well she knows SOOOO much & has been here 20ish years or something like that...and that she has a rough home life, so WE -on the receiving end-need to be more tolerant and kind!! F**K that S**T! OHHH....maybe THIS is why my cover of night has disappeared...into the night!

    L hill
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look at the king and queen of France...decapitated.

    Alex Sass
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You thought this stuff came with some sort of life entitlement?

    Princess Jade
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked for a large company that after 30years went under, the higher ups were the first to go.

    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some bit of justice in that but why'd it take 30yrs?!

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    jenjie.newt
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If only they'd replace the higher-ups

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    #14

    The dumbest people are usually managers

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    Alexia
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they try to make up for their lack of leadership skills - by micromanaging people, for example.

    Cara
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People get promoted to one level above their competence.

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't get me started... please,I don't want to talk about it.

    Ebony Bradshaw
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WRONG then again you may be right because it's pretty dumb when we're killing ourselves to get the job done while our employees are doing the bare minimum. In case you haven't guessed I'm a manager who works 47-50 hours a week with blood clots in my legs I bust my a** every hour I'm there while my employees get a cold and and it hurts them to stock a cup. You're not completely wrong just don't put all managers in the same basket

    H.J. carlson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're a rare breed but don't kill yourself for the job 🙂

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    Beck
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have had a few good managers. I worked harder for them than I did the morons. It pays to be nice as a manager.

    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My manager will come around when we're backed up with racks upon racks that still need to be graded, while we got lots to tag and sort, but many to items to put out on the floor. The worst is when the packed away, seasonal stock starts getting opened. The manager will come around "Why is it so backed up? I don't get it." Like, seriously? She can't take the hint and pay attention to the patterns that tell what's going on?

    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A brainless leader. She won't last long if the Boss wises up!😉

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    DarkViolet
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want a good laugh, just watch a manager in a retail shop trying to operate a cash register. Unless they've done time in the box (what I call working the register), it's guaranteed to make your day.

    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's true 😏 But eventually they might just learn something you already know!

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    Rider
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Failing Up. Easier to promote than fire incompetence.

    Stephanie Did It
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked for a family owned company whose latest college graduate was put to work in the warehouse to "learn the business from the ground up." He proved to be so useless and dangerous on the loading dock that they gave up and made him a vice president... over my boss.

    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not a good sign for the future. Look for a better place soon 😉

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    #15

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them if you leave earlier than the slow workers then you will be considered a lazy employee-regardless of output/efficiency/quality of work

    Michelada , Pixabay Report

    Headless Roach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But... I leave early to make up for arriving late!

    Laura Lett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did you do your assignments? Then ,no worries!!

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    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How do people just leave work early and not get written up? At all jobs I had to punch in and punch out at the end of my shift, or when told I can leave, unless I already put in a request to leave early for a good excuse.

    Sonja
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Come early, take long breaks, leave late and you'll look like the best worker ever no matter the output. And if you work from home learn all about the time-delayed mail function of Outlook. You can sit on your bum watching movies but Outlook sends that important report to your boss at 8 pm. What a hustler you are!

    Raphael Biock
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I am ask, why I leave early, I always answer, that' t I can do all the work others need 8 hours to finish in far less time.

    Strings
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have a friend running into this. He does great work, puts in overtime, but refuses to work Saturdays (he has kids). His less stellar coworkers are considered "better employees" because they come in every Saturday

    Laura Lett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If all your assignments are completed. Go home, you earned the rest

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    #16

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them The second they find out you know anything about computers, you are now IT for the entire department.

    foonati , https://www.pexels.com/photo/woman-coding-on-computer-3861958/ Report

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Be Srgt . Shultz... I know nothing....

    R Dennis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a new manager in quick serve. During training I worked at two locations: one with an old pos system and one with an ancient pos system. They pulled me out of training to help open a new store with a new pos system. I had built every computer I had ever owned and programming was something I dabbled in... when they came to test us on the new system, I was never stumped. They even tried trick questions. I also showed them how to bypass the intranet shell that "couldn't be bypassed". He jokingly said he was going to make me the regional contact for the other stores. A few weeks after rollout, I started getting multiple calls daily from other locations. He really did make me the contact.

    Apatheist Account2
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a DP manager (so basically I write code for market research). I was once asked to try to fix a kettle, because I was the "technical" one.

    Weasel Wise
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Small win for being female? 🤷🏾‍♀️ Especially in the male dominated businesses I've worked, with the proclivity towards misogyny I experienced the men didn't bother asking if I knew what the issue was with the p.o.s. so I would leave them to fumble with their assumptions.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah except when you really do know something, they never listen when you tell them what to do or not do.

    Ralph Watkins
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We had so many computer issues & constantly unavailable IT people. I was the goto guy in nursing to fix things. Even the head of nursing informatics used to joke about how I knew all of the ins & outs & shortcuts. I was admitted to another hospital hours away. While there I happened to notice they had a job opening for the coordinator for our most troublesome program where I worked. Someone noticed me looking at the posting & came over & asked if I would be interested in the job. Oh yeah, I could so do that job the way us nurses are forced to work out own bugs out every day. She asked me a number of technical & situational questions which I answered like a pro. She then told me she was the head of the dept & I had just did my job interview. The job was mine if I wanted it. But it was several hours away from home.

    A gay cat man
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it makes me feel so good to know that my basic troubleshooting knowledge will get me paid... exactly the same... for helping people I work with... nooo!

    Staci Williams
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hello IT, have you tried turning it off and on again?

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hahaha yes this is true. It's like having to work with your parents.

    jenjie.newt
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Graphic designer, I know basically nothing about computers or printers. But I am now everybody's IT person!

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    #17

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Most employers would engage in slavery in an instant if it became acceptable again. They want soooooo badly to have your work for free (most minimum wage/entry level jobs)

    Deutchpleuw , Emil Kalibradov Report

    Sonja
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I often read that German employers are better than other because they treat their employees better. I always reply it's not the employers themselves that are better, it's German labour laws forcing them to be better. Put them on the US market and they will be just as bad as anyone else

    Mjskywalk
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe it. My US based company is owned by a large European investment firm. They follow US law regarding FMLA, breaks, etc. I’m sure companies they own in Europe have a much better deal.

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    Jeremy James
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can confirm. I live in Alabama and our state labor laws are basically nonexistent. It's pretty clear that they would prefer to go back to a time when workers were considered property.

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they advocate near-slavery in the name, of course, of "Free-dom!"

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    Sebastian Scholler
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But you have to feed and accomodate the slaves. This is expensive. Bad deal.

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please, don't get me started....no .

    Alex Sass
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What rubbish. Have you ever owned a company? Doing so does not delete your humanity. It usually means you're a creator of something in demand and if you grow, deploying it well. At no point does serving your community with commercial services necessarily mean hatred, arrogance or a demand for slavery! Even this website is a company and employer. Although to be fair most of the content does come from the unpaid. Reverse snobbery is so small minded. Just say "some" or name one. Don't lump attack.

    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. I've known that for a long time. It's not just the min. wage jobs, but the ones that pack on a lot of tasks for less pay than it's worth to the employees.

    Kate Jones
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or worse, they'd give you a 5 dollar gift card at the end of the month and act like they are just so generous because 'that's more than you'd get elsewhere. Be grateful!" Oh...wait. That's sort of what they do now just on a larger scale.

    A Jones
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm guessing this is America? AMR?

    Enlee Jones
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Minimum wage = I’d pay you less if it weren’t against the law.

    Bad Mole
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Minimum wage means if they could get away with paying you less, they would.

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    #18

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them You cannot get promoted if your performance is too good.

    FalseFrosting9 , Tiger Lily Report

    Strings
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had this happen at a previous job. Had the opportunity to jump to a different division making FAR more money, got blocked by my district manager as "too essential"

    Jeremy James
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. Story of my life. I'd work with a boss on a "development plan," take on extra responsibilities, track my progress, and then... nothing. Turns out, I was just doing my boss's work for free.

    R Dennis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never ascribed to this. I told people I was promoting that I was mad at them because they were such good employees that: 1) they earned a promotion and 2) it meant my job was going to be harder because I no longer had them in their previous role.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But there's a fine line between too good and not good enough.

    Tim Perry
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Got denied a promotion to backroom receiver, all morning shifts and a job that I had done at another company, because I was "too valuable unloading the truck overnight". Quit at the end of the week.

    Scott Rackley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seen this happen many many times. Person is an ace at their job, but wants a job in another capacity for more pay. Supervisor then sabotages their chance at the better job because no one else (they think) can do the lesser paying job as well. Many times. I had a good friend in HR who saved me from this fate. Supervisor will then try to hold on to said employee as long as they're allowed to. My friend had to threaten the supervisor before he would let me transfer.

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hahaha yes this is true. It's like having to work with your parents.

    Bad Mole
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That depends; often people who are good at their jobs get promoted until they suck at it, then they stay there. Especially in management, people rise to their level of incompetence.

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    #19

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Work taught me that even if you report harassment by a coworker nothing will get done about it. I'm dealing with it right now and the guy keeps calling me a rat and threatening me.

    Dashing_Host , Keira Burton Report

    Scrolling Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Document harassment. Document reporting. And when nothing is done, take both sets of documentation to the labor board and state attorney general's office.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And with todays tech, it's often easier to get it on video than many people think. Discrimination is another issue that happens everyday. Some companies are well known for allowing it. And don't even get me started on payroll tampering.

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    Lakota Wolf
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like my experience when I worked retail. I reported a co-worker who harassed me AND customers (he would flirt/try to get the phone numbers of young female customers). I reported him to HR, who did nothing, but I got “let go” a few weeks later. No unions, sadly :(

    Vermontah
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked in HR and told people to report it to the state. Companies want to protect their reputation, the state likes to win.

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    Vermontah
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These days it can be considered as a civil rights issue. In my state the Attorney General's office handles civil rights cases free. It's your civil right to not be harassed and threatened. Don't tell your workplace

    PENNY
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Contact your labor board and report a hostile work environment You also can get a worker's lawyer and sue the company for not protecting you from the harassment

    DarkViolet
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Contact the District Attorney's office. I'm pretty sure that being put on notice by someone much higher up then they will "inspire" HR to act accordingly. Also, the rat impersonating a human being isn't going to enjoy the ride in the back of a squad car, nor standing in front of a judge.

    PinkLadyEmpress
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn’t just at work; it happened at school when I was a kid. I’d report the bullying, my mom would even call the bullies’ parents, but nothing was ever really done.

    kim davies
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They’re legally bound to do something about the harassment. If they don’t take all the documentation including emails and anything from your harasser to the labour board and attorney general. They can be fined by not reporting it or doing something about it, you can also file a protection order against your harasser.

    Ralph Watkins
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have to get creative. If he or she sends emails, print them up. If the network goes across state lines, that could get federal charges. One of my co-workers had been protected for years b/c his mommy was one of the bosses. He made the mistake of making threats over a govt server. The terrified woman printed the emails & took them to the police & filed charges. He wasn't arrested but he was fired on the spot with his poor mommy standing there helplessly watching him get escorted from the building. He went onto work at another facility where he got in even bigger trouble. Of course, management at hour place gave him a wonderful recommendation. No mention of why he got fired. He went to prison from that job.

    Len Helm
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It doesn't work that easy on government!!

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    #20

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them This year I asked for time off (no pay) and it was denied because it was too hard to replace me. So I gave my notice and said I’m willing to stay 2 months if I can get those two days off. Took the time off, stayed two months. And they replaced me with 2 people lol. Two others left after I did.

    DigNitty , cottonbro studio Report

    kitten levels tokyo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Sorry, you are too good of an employee for us to be kind to you.” The boss.

    The Other Guest
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to work the Renaissance Faire. One year I brought the list of weekends to my boss and asked which of the Saturdays I could have off. Without even looking at the list she said, "None of them. You have to be here on Saturdays because there isn't another cake decorator." I asked, "So you're saying I'm the only one in the store who cannot have a Saturday off?" She confirmed that that was true, and I gave my two week notice immediately. I wasn't expecting her to give me all the Saturdays during the run of Faire, but to be told that I couldn't have even one, ever, really p‌issed me off.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had a killer team. Store was #1 in the region. New DM didn't like our little small town store kicking the butts of his big city stores. So he brings in someone with the some purpose of disruption. Within about a year most of us had quit, the store fell to dead last in the region and he fired his disrupter. There's only one of us left still with the company and even he transferred to another district long ago.

    AMaureen Dance
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I asked for a week off, and was told it was a busy time and nobody could be spared. Then suddenly, without explanation, a bunch of us are just not on the schedule. A manager was supposed to call since the past 2 months. We're almost at the week I actually wanted. I'll see what happens.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I retired, I was replaced by two people. I said "Wow. That's quite a compliment." They said "No, that's damage control."

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    #21

    I've been working since I was 14. Now I'm Corporate America in various roles for over 2 decades. No one EVER says they regret not working harder, not doing more OT, or spending more time with their family. Do not give your personal time to your place of employment. I live by the "8 and skate" motto and LOVE detaching from this world. We literally spend more time with coworkers than our own fam. Live to work or work to live?

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    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Work to pay your bills. If you're expected to do more work, they need to pay for the time. Time and half on weekends and holidays! No exceptions, no excuses.!!

    Amanda Christensen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Paid working holidays are for permanent employees -.-

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    PENNY
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All European workers are treated better than us here in America They have contracts They have labor laws we have nothing in this country to protect us You can walk in tomorrow and they don't like the way you smiled and fire you

    DarkViolet
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It means that you work your eight-hour shift, then leave for the day. In other words, act your wage, not theirs.

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    ROSESARERED
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Work to live, the job is a job, no matter what job you do. Things come and go, but people, experiences and time are one chance only. Work to live, and live, you never know when it's your last

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why companies love making the best workers salary. Then they work you as long as they can and no OT.

    DAN COOK
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    8 and skate I thought I was only one who says that lol

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    #22

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them When starting any new job. Make sure you do the same amount of work as your coworkers. There’s nothing like a new over achieving employees to p**s off all their coworkers by showing them up. And the boss will expect more from you forever. Slow down and don’t blow the curve.

    mancusjo1 , Redd F Report

    Alyssa Phillips
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my "old timers" at my last job told me not to "work (my)self out of work." Best advice ever. I now perform at 80% capacity, still do slightly better than average and don't burn myself out if there's a crunch and I have to put in extra effort.

    Mystery Egg
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Total BS. Always work hard in any job you do. If your work ethic is showing up other people then the problem is them, not you. And these things are noticed, believe me. If you have someone that you think is showing you up, you better pull your socks up or your days are numbered.

    fluffyacat
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the BS your corporate overlords want you to believe. To get are paying you as little as they can get away with; in return you should do as little as you can get away with.

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    Stephanie Did It
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My father in law taught me that is the definition of quality control in the workplace. Never give 100% because you'll always be expected to do 200%. Leave some wiggle room.

    Amanda Christensen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or ya know do your ducking job.

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's been a couple newer employees at my job that have just blown past me in achievements and higher up roles within a month or 2. Makes me feel like I'm not good enough and possibly be the first they let go.

    Dawnieangel76
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah, but some of us THRIVE on outperforming others! I ain't there to make friends; I'm there to get as much money as possible while doing MY absolute best. When I take a day off, the sailing is never smooth, and I'm made aware of it. I've had 6 raises & 3 promotions in 7 years because I found the rare company that DOES notice & reward hard work.

    Alex Sass
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read this list and just think I would hate very much to offer any of these dispassionate, minimum effort only people any sort of role in a company where we have pride. As well as fair benefits. Some people love what they do. Many could.

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    #23

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Once you have the job you no longer need to impress anyone so just do enough to not get fired

    BickusDickus6969 , Buro Millennial Report

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That depends on whether it's just a job, or there's a career path. If you want to get promoted, you have to stand out among your peers - primarily by doing what your boss wants.

    Karen Philpott
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As long as your boss allows you to move up or over.

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    Headless Roach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn't that most people work just hard enough not to get fired and get paid just enough money not to quit?

    Bruce Horton
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And hope there isn't a downturn and , ooops we have to let go the weakest and you're at the bottom of the list.

    Sonja
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not good advice. With that attitude you'll be the first to let go if anything goes awry. Better: work to rule. Do a reasonably good job and a pinch above, but not too much so you don't burn out or get stressed but still just enough to be considered reliable and trustworthy. That way you can guarantee a steady and flawless output and you'll see that while everyone around you hustles and bustles you'll still be among the high performers, simply because your steady and controlled input will create less mistakes which means less work with still more and better outcome. While your coworkers evaluation line will look like a rollercoaster, yours will be a steady line, slightly above average, and if push comes to shove everyone else will burn out like a candle while you can easily take on some more and shine when it counts. That's when you'll be celebrated as the hero saving the day while no one remembers the hustlers

    smolspeedycats
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless there are higher-paid *:*promotions*:*

    Mr Old School Cool
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work very hard to impress my boss. In return, i expect a solid written letter of recommendation i can use forever. Also, with excellent work, boss will mostly leave me alone, let me do my job as i see fit, and give me the benefit of the doubt if something bad happens, like irate customers or workplace disputes

    John G
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People doing this think they’re screwing the company when in reality they’re screwing over their coworkers who have to pick up the slack for the selfish c**t.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I partially disagree here. More than once I was an overachiever and more than once they wanted me gone for it. Store level loved it but the big dogs didn't. I always thought the business of retail was to profit as much as possible regardless of how it's done as long as it's legit.

    A Shipper
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work with someone like this and it’s infuriating. Someone has to pick up the slack and your coworkers will hate you.

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    #24

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them when you're new, you notice the "highschool cliques". pretty embarrassing.

    MothInsideJar , Sora Shimazaki Report

    Thot Waffle
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wise Grandmother taught me that "high school never ends." Once you accept that, then you can deal with it like an adult. Thankful to her!

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You mean who is a but kisser.

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More like the gossipers, the people working at one station/department who think they're better than everyone else, the older ladies who gossip and think they're superior to all, the gamers who do nothing but make gaming/fantasy references all day, the ones who can only complain about being at work and just talk about how they'll quit "one day", the ethnic groups who stick to themselves but don't want to invite anyone else to sit with them.

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    L hill
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Our " clique" at work are the potheads. We are not embarrassed, we are stoned. Embarrassing? Sometimes maybe.

    #25

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Lazy workers are the most efficient, they want to do as little as possible to get the same result.

    sjaakarie , Vojtech Okenka Report

    Headless Roach
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lazy workers are best at automation too 🙃

    Joe Kazoo
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lazy people are the smartest as they will create ways to do the bare minimum with the same or improved results. Southern Europeans are seen as lazy but what we are really? Smart as hell 🤠

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    Red Ruffensor
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Efficiency is just a more refined form of laziness,

    A Jones
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This kind of laziness I call "efficient"

    QuirkyKittyGirl
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Want to know if they're getting ready to fire you? Look for the job listing. Apply.

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They only use ten percent of the brain...

    georgios pahatouridis
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well this is not something that you learned :) Bill gates said this, soemthing like 20 years ago. Exactly the same words

    DAN COOK
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lazy workers are the best give them the hardest job and most will find a way to do it quicker

    Amanda Christensen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or they'll muck it up so badly and make work a living hell for the rest of us.

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    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All good mathematicians are lazy. The want to solve a problem or do a proof in as few steps as possible. And each step should be as simple as possible.

    Igor914624
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work from home 4 days a week, so I automated all of the repetitive tasks assigned to me. I let the rest build up until the day I am in the office so I have something to make me look busy. The rest of the week I am online if an emergency comes up, but I spend the day doing housework and surfing bored panda.

    Bad Mole
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The auto-pilot wasn't invented by a highly motivated pilot.

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    #26

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them You could fall over dead at work and the opening for your position will be posted the next day. If they decide to wait that long. I work for a great company, I love working for this company. But even they won’t drag their feet in replacing me if something happens. In fact, I applied for my position before the person I replaced was officially fired.

    CrayonDelicacies , mohd hasan Report

    zak
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, yeah. What else would you expect?

    Ray Arani
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's actually surprusing how many younger people don't integrate this knowledge and feel obligated to stay in a position because they "committed" to it don't want to leave a "nice and supportive" boss hanging. I tell my kid sister all the time that she's allowed to quit her job and go to college like she wants, (she has a college fund) but her "nice and supportive" boss is always making her feel like he's doing her all these workplace favors and basically steam rolling her into sticking around with a combination of guilt and incentive. She's 22 and doing great at work, but already knows she's not interested in that field long term and it's way past time for her to leave it but it's her first job and she feels obligated to stay "another six months" which never actually ends. It was supposed to be a summer job between college terms but she's been there for three years now.

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    Bruce Horton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why would they drag their feet? Sorry everyone we have to close the company for a day, Mary, the senior payroll clerk died and we're having a day of mourning

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once you die, they just assume you're not coming back unless you were known for hanging around the office water cooler and changing it into wine.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have 3 locations. My position in all 3 is very difficult to fill. Took me 2 years to find an assistant. another of our stores has been looking for a new person for 3 months now. People schedule an interview and won't even show up for it.

    Alex Sass
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes that's kinda the deal. They aren't marrying you.

    #27

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Standard technique is to do work quickly then play games for the rest of the day

    AsshollishAsshole , JESHOOTS.com Report

    smolspeedycats
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or to do most of the work, then decide to go take a lunch break, then get seduced by the elegant exterior of a lunch place where the bread basket alone costs more than your car and order a six-course meal and tell yourself "It's fine, I'll have leftovers" but every portion is asparagus foam and barely feels like food so you go order Mcdonalds and break down in the parking lot wondering why you're stuck in a soulless corporate job before going back to the workplace and eating soggy chicken nuggets while you complete the rest of the work until you head home, another piece taken out of your soul.

    Amanda Christensen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait, you can leave for your lunch break?? Lucky. Ours is so far back in the building that by the time we walked up to the front door, it's time to go back. Plus if you do get outside, someone with a key card as a permanent employee has to let you back in.

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    Kate Jones
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where is this magical job where people talk about being bored all the time and how they can complete their work in 2 hours without someone checking on them regularly? I don't get it. Any job where I can sit down and say I'm bored would be my dream job at this point.

    bottomless.abyss.of.bordem
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a terrible work ethic to me! I don't play games at work! BP only! LOL

    TailsFangirl03
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well then I guess work won't be so different than school.

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially now with working from home...

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    #28

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Confidence, and even over confidence, gets you further than hard work does. Perception is everything, the work matters the least. At least in corporate jobs.

    LetsHaveARedo , krakenimages Report

    Jeremy James
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, being tall and masculine. I recently had a customer refuse to believe that I was the manager and insist that my trainee help him instead because he, "looks like he's the manager."

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happens a lot with women, too. I can't tell you how many times someone asked to speak to a male supervisor. Meanwhile, all the supervisors at my job are women. At my last job where I was in charge, I'd get the same thing. I worked with a guy who was tall (he was the worst employee I ever had, honestly) but people always assumed he was in charge. It happens, sadly, with short and tall men, too. A taller man will always be assumed to be the person in charge. It's annoying.

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    Lesley Allen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perception is everything, reality is nothing. "How are you?" - answer, "Busy, busy, busy". Carry file folders or laptop as you go to restroom (to read a magazine!) or as you leave & return from long lunch/shopping. Fill your calendar with fake meetings. Decline requests to do extra (commitees etc) saying "As much as I'd like to do that, I just don't have the bandwidth". Do less work and have a better reputation and more rewards.

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    #29

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Closed mouths don’t get fed. Putting in the work? Don’t wait to be noticed. Bring that up every single chance you can and if it’s not getting you anywhere, jump ship.

    BluePeriod_ , Sigmund Report

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Before you jump that ship, be sure you have another ship ,to jump into...just saying.

    Jana Jankova
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jumping ship means exactly that, by the way...

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    Alyssa Phillips
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get the next boat close to the dock before stepping off.

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes,think like Captain Jack Sparrow, Savvy!?

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    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's all in "how" you bring it up too. The wrong way can make them dislike you no matter how much you do.

    Ralph Watkins
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to get sent to upper management meetings in place of our actual boss. The one day our director was saying she developed this new way of doing things. I let her finish & then raised my voice & reminded her that I was the one who put that recommendation in the year before. She had a shocked look on her face since nobody ever stood up for themselves. Yay, I got a $50 bonus for something that would save them a few hundred thousand dollars.

    AliJanx
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great advice! Document, document, document. Note the major and medium stuff you're working in so you have it to speak to during one on one's and annual review time. Put it on your work calendar...completed XYZ project and forget to mark it Private, so whoever surfing your calendar can see it. Etc

    Shelby Moonheart
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a coworker who would write up all the at-a-boys she got from clients and had her manager sign off on a bonus or small promotion for her.

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    #30

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them People who add value to a business are given the opportunity to add more value. Any business worth running is on the lookout for more people able to add more value. Now if you’re working your a*s off without ever reaching for opportunities, it’s like revving a chainsaw without ever setting it to wood. Of course you’re not going to get ahead. If you’re working your a*s off and that business is run by s**tbags eager to exploit you, that’s like reviving a chainsaw and setting it to a rock or a car or a chain link fence. You’re in the wrong place. Go find a place where your tools are recognized for their worth. And for the love of money don’t rage quit, having a job is the best way to get a job. But if the desire is to complain to comfort yourself to make it through the day, you can do that too. But you’re gonna have a lot more s****y days and a lot more s**t to talk about the unfair reasons other people get ahead while you don’t.

    stillventures17 , fauxels Report

    kitten levels tokyo
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would say having the right skills at the right job at the right pay is like running a chainsaw through a pallet of butter. Satisfying. (Or jello.)

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    #31

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them Never respond to emails too quickly. More often than not, this is the key to staying efficient while not being overloaded.

    leastlyharmful , Torsten Dettlaff Report

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let them wait, they don't like it ,too bad. If it's a boss that's using you., and your efforts for self promotion, let them come to you. Make them work for it. In my opinion....

    Annie
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also don't do work that another department has asked you to do, whether via email or verbally. Send an email to your manager (or forward the email from the other department) briefly explaining what's being asked of you & let your manager decide if they want you to do the work. I used to do this when I worked for a very toxic company & if/when the other department would ask why I hadn't done what they asked, I'd refer them to the manager.

    Bruce Horton
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah yes, be as uncooperative and petty as you can. We all know that delaying and deflecting is a great way to get rewarded.

    Glengoolie Blue
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And don't answer your phone just because it makes noise. Treat it just like an email - check it when you get a chance. There's no reason a phone call should be more important than an email.

    #32

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them This is probably going to get downvoted to oblivion, but: You are your best advocate. In non-Reddit-caricature workplaces, efficiency and additional responsibility are the only path to recognition and promotion - IF you advocate for yourself and ensure your current supervisor knows that you expect to be rewarded for the extra work you're taking on. It's only a punishment if you stay passive and eat it. This only applies to exempt salaried positions. I don't know how things work in hourly or non-exempt.

    shnu , fauxels Report

    sofacushionfort
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every culture of self-promotion has an element of peer-denunciation. This is always phrased as “he’s a really great guy, but…” followed by a suggestion that advances your ambition cloaked in “what’s best for the organization.”

    Bruce Horton
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is no need to put anyone down to promote yourself. In fact it's a negative if you do.if you say any differentiation puts down someone else, well ok

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    Chucky Cheezburger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a friend who worked at the same place I did years ago. He hired on as a general laborer. They found out he is a very skilled welder, so guess who started getting all the welding jobs. Went to the boss to get a raise and was denied. He packed up his tools and quit. They wanted a welder at helper wages. Screw 'em and their greedy selves.

    Amanda Christensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah hourly doesn't do that unfortunately. Even if you get all your work done for the day, they'll shove more down your throat at the same pay rate

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your best advocate is the whole workforce. That's why unions are so necessary.

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    #33

    Race plays a factor and don’t anybody nobody tell you different.

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    Erik Ivan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly true. Also, your accent matter. I have gotten lots of jobs just because I have an accent that is - for some reason - seen as "trustworthy and steady".

    Bec
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Age and gender too

    R Dennis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People might get mad, but in my experience and from seeing my wife's work as well, white males are generally hired for potential while all others must have a proven track record for consideration. In the corporate world, I have seen more white males fail up than I would have believed possible. This isn't their fault, just how many systems are run...

    Lakota Wolf
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I noticed racism in a totally unexpected way at my retail job. So, I’m white af but I was adopted at birth into a Mexican family, so I’m fluent in Spanish. Whenever a Hispanic customer came in who didn’t speak English, the managers would grab me to translate, ignoring and pointedly snubbing my Hispanic co-workers, even if I was busy on a task and they were not. It was bizarre and made me feel very uncomfortable. I can only imagine how my co-workers felt :( (my managers were white, of course)

    StrangeOne
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends where you work. If you work at Tim Hortons or any fast food chain in Canada, everyone is of one or 2 ethnicities except the manager, who happens to the only white one there. Everyone else is East and Southern Asian by a very high majority. I've applied at some and got some dirty looks along with "we're not hiring. We'll still take your resume." and saw them toss it in the bin as I walked out. The big thrift store I work at now as way more diversity and doesn't discriminate against anyone's age, ethnicity, religion, etc.

    Seadog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bi-lingual plays a factor too, at least in the US. One place I worked hired a girl with zero knowledge, zero experience only because she spoke Spanish. It's just a corporate thing, speak Spanish, get hired. We didn't actually have very many South American customers and those we did spoke English and resented anyone speaking Spanish to them. As soon as she'd start, they'd stop her and tell her "this is America and we speak English. We don't want to hear that from you." So then she's suddenly completely unqualified for the field but also unwanted by both the customers and the employees. They never did fire her, she finally quit on her own.

    Amanda Christensen
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When the manager in charge of employee of the month is Hispanic and you're white, be ready to never be in the running, even when you meet all the criteria your workplace set forward. 😬 Especially if you're not on her favorites list.

    Glengoolie Blue
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "anybody nobody" is not going to help you. Always proofread.

    Apatheist Account2
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    2 years ago

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    Possibly lack of communication skills is a factor...

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    #34

    the less you work,the more you get paid

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    Mjskywalk
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe if you get paid on salary…

    Bruce Horton
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The less you work the more likely you are to be let go, so if that's your goal👍

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At last! An explanation for exploding CEO salaries.

    Amanda Christensen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah this only applies to salaried.

    smolspeedycats
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get the general vibe is "don't do more than is needed", which I am on board with, but I don't agree that the less you work, the more you get paid.

    #35

    “Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them When a project closes: The non performers get rewarded. The performers get punished. The unassociated get raises. The squeakiest wheel gets a promotion.

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    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone is a non performer, they need to be called out about it. If they want the pay they should do the work.

    Laura Lett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Example: in the presentation. Let everyone know, this person was assigned ex... duties.... But failed to do so. Therefore, the rest of us on the team, had to take care of the assignment.

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    Bruce Horton
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, true because non-performer get more and more projects and rewards and stay with a company dragging down performance until the company goes bankrupt and everyone is fired. Oh wait.......

    TotallyNOTaFox
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why I love to work alone if possible, I usually do the work anyways and there is nobody slowing me down

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