“Lazy Coworkers Get Paid As Much As You”: People Share 30 Honest Answers To What Employment Has Taught Them
Ever wished you knew something sooner? Something that would've made your life a tad easier, perhaps?
We toil away at our jobs for the bulk of our lives, and it's no big news what kind of effect it has on our well-being. A discussion recently arose online – that garnered a whopping 115K upvotes – about the biggest lessons folks ever learned throughout their careers. And although the observations listed below will not make your retirement age come faster, taking a thing or two into consideration could definitely help you feel a little more in control!
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The reward for good work is more work.
The only time it makes sense to go above and beyond is if you own your own business.
Always. And you get manipulated: "it's better if you take over this project too, you're the one we trust most" etc.
I've noticed the manipulation at every job I've had. All the supers.' and managers think they know you better than you know yourself.
Load More Replies...Agree 100% - oh, you’re such a valued employee, here’s another 5 day’s worth of work we need done in an hour 🙄
I am retired. I wish I had started working toward this freedom to own my own land, build my own house, and make my own way a bunch sooner.
The really odd expression I heard is "give the work to the busiest worker to get things done"
I saw this over and over again. A productive employee gets buried and burnt out while the slackers enjoyed a work-life balance and smokes with the Boss.
I had a guy who was always kissing our district leader's a*s. I would end up doing all of the work while he sat for 45 minutes, lips at full suction. He eventually got promoted. He sucked as a boss: lazy, rude, made sexual comments about teen employees. He eventually moved to another location and I was passed over for promotion again. The new manager told me why: he was blaming me for all the failures at our location. He didn't last long without me to throw under the bus and left two months later. As much as that guy sucked, I lost any respect for the district leader because he should have seen through the bs.
Sad how every employer tolerates smokers taking smoke breaks, most anytime they please, while non-smokers are compensated in no way what so ever. One place I worked, one manager would spend at least 1/2 of their 8 hour shift outside smoking. Store was already understaffed. Many customers when approaching the store would see how many cars were in the lot. If it was more than 2 they'd drive right on by because that meant there were already 2 waiting to be assisted.
It's not even a nepotism thing. I'm guilty of it myself as a former manager. My biggest gripe was that you can't just fire someone for cause, even at 'hire at will' jobs. If 'Joe' calls out 3 times this week, we have to reassign his tasks. If it's not calling out, it's someone not doing their job. And if it's a performance issue, nothing ever comes of write ups because corporate doesn't want to fire anybody. Managers don't always have the power you think. We can write someone up but HR has to approve most firings. And it's because they don't want anyone to collect unemployment pay-that's what it boils down to. I often asked a lot of my best worker because she was the only one I didn't have to babysit and could trust. She quit-rightfully- because she saw the benefit never came due to the inability of me to hold staff accountable. And she new I wasn't just 'letting stuff go'. You lose good workers because they're being abused and other get away with murder because of how the system is.
worked in a team with people like this. Thankfully, the boss isn't an idiot; the hard workers got raises and bonuses at the beginning of the year and the slackers didn't. They all quit within a year of starting.
The hard worker , should not do their work . If the slack off , it's on them . Not on you. In my opinion....
I am making a good salary from home $6580-$7065/week , which is amazing under a year ago I was jobless in a horrible economy. I thank God every day I was blessed with these instructions and now its my duty to pay it forward and share it with Everyone, Here is I started__________ 𝐰𝐰𝐰.𝐧𝐞𝐭𝐩𝐚𝐲𝐟𝐚𝐬𝐭.𝐜𝐨𝐦
Do 1,000 tasks, and 999 of them are done perfectly, but guarantee the 1 that wasn’t perfect is the only task that will be talked about.
we had a very different, and vulgar, way of saying that where I used to work... but 100% true at any rate
You can build a thousand bridges, but you f**k one goat.....
Load More Replies...Or when you always arrive at work 15 minutes early, then a year later, you're 5 minutes late one day and your boss says "Nice of you to show up." He tried to fire me, but I won.
This is the ESSENCE of my performance improvement plan right now. Absolutely infuriating.
Loyalty is expected but not reciprocated.
I was accused of stealing by the owner. Then I was expected to buy her a birthday gift,a week later. Nope
I was going to do a post called “Hey pandas, what do you think happened to Headless Roach and Zara the squiddy squid?” But I guess I won’t now. Welcome back!
Load More Replies...Loyalty doesn’t count for s**t. Your workplace will drop you in a heartbeat to save a buck, like mine did after I had been there for 10 years. I was given 2 minutes to get my stuff from my desk and escorted out like a criminal. Didn’t even have a chance to say goodbye to my coworkers.
You said it, comrade! I gave 17 years of my life to a worthless job, only to be shown the door because of my "attitude." (In truth, this church started a $15M building project, stopped giving cost-of-living increases, and didn't want to continue paying my salary. Most of the other staff had already jumped ship.) I figuratively--and literally--shook the dust from my shoes when I left.
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Toxic work environments do not change. Get out quickly.
I work in a very toxic environment that is thanks to just one person. When they were reported by numerous employees was told by the boss that they're retiring soon and it's cheaper to just wait it out. 19 more weeks. I hope I make it.
A toxic coworker can do plenty in 19 weeks. But so can you (hint: any microwaves near them? Any particular, ah, 𝘧𝘪𝘴𝘩 dishes that you are fond of as a light luncheon?)
Load More Replies...I do not trust open-door policies. It's a way to trick employees to bring their guards down and spill too much info that can be used against you later. Plus, if your job has a policy against discussing wages, then it wouldn't make sense to have an open-door policy, too. That's what you have to watch out for.
If the job has a policy against discussing wages, then that job is on the chopping block, and the axe is raised. Prohibiting employees from discussing wages is against the law. Big time.
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Always get the promotion or raise in writing. Never trust a manager's hand shake.
Always, get it in Written form ! Even if you say you trust the higher up. They can deny that anything is said or done.
Even the littlest things! From PTO to "can I come in two hours late on Tuesday?" Email can be even better than physical approvals because it'll never get "accidentally" lost and is time-stamped!
Never take a job based on promises for the future like promotions. You are hiring into whatever you are getting now. Not some sort of future change.
Local office wanted to pay me above regular rate when I got a promotion, after waiting months to get a pay change because of head office, it was not what I had been offered. My managers and I conference called in to ask why and was told at one point that I lived in a right-to-work state and they could just fire me. Local folks were apologetic, I had to just keep working there as it was the recession. They also screwed me on starting my health insurance over a miscommunication that meant I had to wait about 9 months for the next open enrollment to roll around.
Nobody at work gives a s**t about your well-being. You have to be the one that looks out for yourself. Take the damn sick day and don’t feel bad about it. You got one life and trust once you die they’ll replace you before you’re even cold. Be happy.
That really isn't true. I've had a couple of bosses who were extremely thoughtful and considerate of me and my well-being - one to the extent of getting the company to pay for some counselling to help me understand why I got stressed in certain situations (which I now understand, and how to cope with them). Sadly, it's quite a low percentage of bosses, but I'd like to think as a manager that I took a significant interest in my staff as people.
Dunno why you were downvoted, because you're right. Not every workplace is full of bees. The ones that do give a damn may be few and far between, but they do exist.
Load More Replies...Take that sickday early on when you feel down and give your body a day of rest to fire up your immune system. You can get away with one sick day early on when you feel the first signs of a cold like feeling cold and being extremely tired and feel fine the next day. If you ignore the first sign, you might still get away with three sick days and some medication if you take off as soon as your nose gets stuffy and your throat feels rough. But if you ignore this too the cold will fully break out and you'll need at least a week rest if not more to get rid of it. If you then still keep working the simple cold can become chronical and you'll have it gor the rest of your life IF YOU'RE LUCKY or even permanently damage your immune system. And that goes for any sickness that's common and can heal out on its own. First signs are not too bad, one or two days rest and it's done and gone. Wait a little too long and you'll need more time to recover ignore it and you might even die.
My mom died last year from stupid shingles. She saw the rash and felt the itch but insisted it was just a rash. It infected her internal organs and she died from multiple organ failure within a week. Every sickness is an infection of some kind. And any infection can kill you, even if it's just a toothache or a rash. Take that stupid sickday and if it doesn't go away, let it check out. Your job isn't worth your life.
Load More Replies...My current job seems to care but they do look for patterns, such as common days being taken off close together often. I don't trust my supervisors really care. Went to work with a runny nose and a feeling a bit off but just able to work the whole day, with a mask on. One of my close team members told me not to come in if I'm feeling more sick tomorrow. This morning I felt tons worse so I did. A lot of people are away this week, leaving them heavily understaffed. Not my problem. I know one co-worker who works close to my area that came to work still unwell, but masked. Another lady has been walking around sneezing. Shouldn't come as a surprise to them.
One of the worst things about America is that employers don't have to give you paid time off. Or vacation. Or even holiday pay.
If you die on the job, your placement will just step over your dead body.
Not true in my work. They look after us really well with monthly reimbursements for therapy, massages or other 'wellness' activities that help our bodies and minds.
Dang! I could have used a work environment like THAT!
Load More Replies...I've said that there'll be someone new in your chair, before you're in the ground.
I read somewhere that a guy worked at an insurance place and they wouldn’t give him any time off for sick leave because he had been diagnosed with a terminal illness. He passed away and for days after he was getting phone calls and registered letters threatening his job if he didn’t come in to work, which he couldn’t because he was dead. His daughter answered a call and screamed at the CEO - “my dad can’t come to work because he’s dead”! There was utter silence on the other end then an audible click. They never even sent flowers or anything. Some work places you get lucky and you’re supported but other not so much.
One of the earliest lessons imparted to me by an older co-worker in one of my first jobs was: "Never get good at something you hate doing. Once you're good at it, they'll never let you do anything else."
I don't find that at my job. It's more like the what you admit to enjoying that will be the least you'll be doing.
I am also fortunate to have a local top leader who wants people to be happy in their work and encourages helping develop people to get them where they want to be
Load More Replies...I wish I could find out what I like doing so that I can stop doing things I hate.
Good luck with the quest, it might last a long time.😅
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Lazy coworkers (probably) get paid as much as you.
Yes lazy coworkers do get paid as much as you. Quit giving away your time for free and preform your job with calculated mediocrity.
Yep, had a new hire who did NOTHING and he got paid the same as me, I had worked 12 years at that point. Did his college homework at work and myself and another employee did his job.
but they don't last. You never have to put up with a lazy colleague for long.
Not true, not if the boss is blind to their faults
Load More Replies...This can be true. And the fact that I didn’t earn more for doing more didn’t bother me as much as how little they got away with. But I will tell you this, it doesn’t happen all the time, but I caught they eye of some very important people. And when 2 of my colleagues and myself were making below average for our field and people were leaving and making much more money, I was able to secure a $25k raise for all 3 of us in an afternoon from a conversation with the VIP of VIPs. If you are getting run over leave, but if you play it right it is possible to ultimately benefit quite well from doing more for less for a bit.
My malicious compliance was to make sure MY areas of responsibility were taken care of. When asked to pitch in to help the (less than enegetic) co-worker, I ALWAYS had another task to do. Nope,Nope,Nope
Especially if you work at a unionized workplace. Otherwise not so much. I regularly rewarded high performers more than others. They were the ones that helped the company and me reach goals and I obviously wanted to keep them because finding good employees as both hard and risky.
80% of work is done by 20% of employees
Best thing to do is not stand out for any reason. Be mediocre, be perfectly average. That way the management just leave you alone. Praise usually equals more work for little to no reward. Getting in trouble or being lazy could cost you your job. Just be quiet, average, keep your head down and do your job, and you'll usually be left alone to just get on with it.
I tried this-actually thought I had succeeded...until a new EGO sat in the throne of my food chain!! For 6 years I have been wearing shorts, I'm a FIRM believer that my body is meant for almost knee length shorts ~ definitely NO daisy dukes here! I inspect businesses so I get in & out of my car A LOT, sometimes going a block or 2. I live in an area with high heat/humidity so my car isn't cooling down between businesses. Capris/jeans are too hot! I was told that there was a complaint. I find it hard to believe a taxpayer is going to complain about a government employee who is your inspector -esp after 6 years! I go into the office on rare occasions, maybe 4-5 times a YEAR, but I am 99% sure that the most toxic person I have ever encountered and who makes me believe that there is NOT enough duct tape, plastic bags or concrete in the world to save the world from her toxicity ~complained! Her & now Mr Ego with a gun & badge make me not love what I do anymore! So 3,267 days until I retire!!
Load More Replies...The 80% keep silent and do nothing, tell others to keep silent and also do nothing or just talk a lot about doing.
Ah but.... I'm one of the 20% and I make WAY more money per job than the 80% do. One of my jobs this week made over 10,000% more than one of her jobs. In the same time span, I can make 10k a day whereas she'll struggle to make £300
For clarification, I'm not lazy. But jobs are just way, WAY harder. I don't do repairs, I actually handmake things.
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Being a convincing bullshi***r is more important than being a competently talented.
See Elon Musk.
The biggest regret of my work life was assuming we were all playing by the same rules. I've been on my own since I was 17 and didn't get a lot of advice. Even at school, I would ask about internships and they never had an answer for me. So when I got my degree figured I'd start at the bottom and work my way up because that sounds logical. But that's not how it works. Silly me believed I couldn't apply for those higher paying jobs because I was going by what the ad asked for. Now I know- the higher ups at my company have never done the job I do and wouldn't know how if they tried. They started in the middle or higher. They just lied. Which is why they're always so happy- they've never had to be in the gutter like the rest of us and call us negative when we point out problems. My direct supervisor does not know how to do my job. How ridiculous is that? How can you be in charge of me if you don't know how to do the job I do? How can you improve systems if you don't know what they're for?
🤔🤨 This sounds like someone had "connections"and landed that position. Find a better place soon!
Load More Replies...I think our current society confuses brazen confidence with ability. So the guy who says he can do everything will get the job, as opposed to the person (often a woman) who is more truthful and humble. So you end up with a boss that doesn’t know how to do a good job. The humble intelligent person would probably be the much better fit.
An old, favourite quote of mine ... "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with b*llsh*t ..."
Yeah, who would think that being the son of a literal diamond mine owner would provide better opportunities in life...
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We had a deadline to turn in our month's worth of work. My wife had previously worked there, and advised me to get my work done ahead of the deadlines, but be secretive about it, and turn it in at the end of the month. Worked like a charm.
Because you just know that if management found out that they had things done before the deadline, they'd pile on and expect more work to be done
I used to work 4pm-midnight and though salaried, was supposed to stay until at least midnight even if all my work had been completed hours early. I learned that if I compiled all my "midnight reports" (which required local access to the company intranet, could not be compiled remotely/from home) and attached them an email at my work computer, but left it as a draft, I could go home at 8 or 9, and wait until midnight and sign into my Office365, and send the draft it would look like I sent it from work at midnight! A few times I forgot and didn't send it until 3 or 4am and the next day everybody was so impressed how late I stayed (presumably to solve a crisis or assist another department/manager). ;)
I am 78 years old and I learned decades ago that every one can be replaced, even the higher-ups.
Never knowing whom to cling to when the rains come in.....
Load More Replies...That's as it should be. It's called the bus factor - as in, "If this person was hit by a bus, how screwed would we be?" If your answer is "completely", then you're running things badly. So yes, you should always have a backup plan for if someone has to leave.
Pretty sure this ISN'T true where I work! Everyone makes accommodations for her and her toxicity! They say well she knows SOOOO much & has been here 20ish years or something like that...and that she has a rough home life, so WE -on the receiving end-need to be more tolerant and kind!! F**K that S**T! OHHH....maybe THIS is why my cover of night has disappeared...into the night!
I worked for a large company that after 30years went under, the higher ups were the first to go.
Some bit of justice in that but why'd it take 30yrs?!
Load More Replies...The dumbest people are usually managers
And they try to make up for their lack of leadership skills - by micromanaging people, for example.
WRONG then again you may be right because it's pretty dumb when we're killing ourselves to get the job done while our employees are doing the bare minimum. In case you haven't guessed I'm a manager who works 47-50 hours a week with blood clots in my legs I bust my a** every hour I'm there while my employees get a cold and and it hurts them to stock a cup. You're not completely wrong just don't put all managers in the same basket
You're a rare breed but don't kill yourself for the job 🙂
Load More Replies...My manager will come around when we're backed up with racks upon racks that still need to be graded, while we got lots to tag and sort, but many to items to put out on the floor. The worst is when the packed away, seasonal stock starts getting opened. The manager will come around "Why is it so backed up? I don't get it." Like, seriously? She can't take the hint and pay attention to the patterns that tell what's going on?
A brainless leader. She won't last long if the Boss wises up!😉
Load More Replies...If you want a good laugh, just watch a manager in a retail shop trying to operate a cash register. Unless they've done time in the box (what I call working the register), it's guaranteed to make your day.
That's true 😏 But eventually they might just learn something you already know!
Load More Replies...I worked for a family owned company whose latest college graduate was put to work in the warehouse to "learn the business from the ground up." He proved to be so useless and dangerous on the loading dock that they gave up and made him a vice president... over my boss.
Not a good sign for the future. Look for a better place soon 😉
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if you leave earlier than the slow workers then you will be considered a lazy employee-regardless of output/efficiency/quality of work
How do people just leave work early and not get written up? At all jobs I had to punch in and punch out at the end of my shift, or when told I can leave, unless I already put in a request to leave early for a good excuse.
Come early, take long breaks, leave late and you'll look like the best worker ever no matter the output. And if you work from home learn all about the time-delayed mail function of Outlook. You can sit on your bum watching movies but Outlook sends that important report to your boss at 8 pm. What a hustler you are!
When I am ask, why I leave early, I always answer, that' t I can do all the work others need 8 hours to finish in far less time.
The second they find out you know anything about computers, you are now IT for the entire department.
I was a new manager in quick serve. During training I worked at two locations: one with an old pos system and one with an ancient pos system. They pulled me out of training to help open a new store with a new pos system. I had built every computer I had ever owned and programming was something I dabbled in... when they came to test us on the new system, I was never stumped. They even tried trick questions. I also showed them how to bypass the intranet shell that "couldn't be bypassed". He jokingly said he was going to make me the regional contact for the other stores. A few weeks after rollout, I started getting multiple calls daily from other locations. He really did make me the contact.
I'm a DP manager (so basically I write code for market research). I was once asked to try to fix a kettle, because I was the "technical" one.
Small win for being female? 🤷🏾♀️ Especially in the male dominated businesses I've worked, with the proclivity towards misogyny I experienced the men didn't bother asking if I knew what the issue was with the p.o.s. so I would leave them to fumble with their assumptions.
We had so many computer issues & constantly unavailable IT people. I was the goto guy in nursing to fix things. Even the head of nursing informatics used to joke about how I knew all of the ins & outs & shortcuts. I was admitted to another hospital hours away. While there I happened to notice they had a job opening for the coordinator for our most troublesome program where I worked. Someone noticed me looking at the posting & came over & asked if I would be interested in the job. Oh yeah, I could so do that job the way us nurses are forced to work out own bugs out every day. She asked me a number of technical & situational questions which I answered like a pro. She then told me she was the head of the dept & I had just did my job interview. The job was mine if I wanted it. But it was several hours away from home.
it makes me feel so good to know that my basic troubleshooting knowledge will get me paid... exactly the same... for helping people I work with... nooo!
Graphic designer, I know basically nothing about computers or printers. But I am now everybody's IT person!
Most employers would engage in slavery in an instant if it became acceptable again. They want soooooo badly to have your work for free (most minimum wage/entry level jobs)
I often read that German employers are better than other because they treat their employees better. I always reply it's not the employers themselves that are better, it's German labour laws forcing them to be better. Put them on the US market and they will be just as bad as anyone else
I believe it. My US based company is owned by a large European investment firm. They follow US law regarding FMLA, breaks, etc. I’m sure companies they own in Europe have a much better deal.
Load More Replies...Can confirm. I live in Alabama and our state labor laws are basically nonexistent. It's pretty clear that they would prefer to go back to a time when workers were considered property.
And they advocate near-slavery in the name, of course, of "Free-dom!"
Load More Replies...But you have to feed and accomodate the slaves. This is expensive. Bad deal.
What rubbish. Have you ever owned a company? Doing so does not delete your humanity. It usually means you're a creator of something in demand and if you grow, deploying it well. At no point does serving your community with commercial services necessarily mean hatred, arrogance or a demand for slavery! Even this website is a company and employer. Although to be fair most of the content does come from the unpaid. Reverse snobbery is so small minded. Just say "some" or name one. Don't lump attack.
Yup. I've known that for a long time. It's not just the min. wage jobs, but the ones that pack on a lot of tasks for less pay than it's worth to the employees.
Or worse, they'd give you a 5 dollar gift card at the end of the month and act like they are just so generous because 'that's more than you'd get elsewhere. Be grateful!" Oh...wait. That's sort of what they do now just on a larger scale.
You cannot get promoted if your performance is too good.
Had this happen at a previous job. Had the opportunity to jump to a different division making FAR more money, got blocked by my district manager as "too essential"
This. Story of my life. I'd work with a boss on a "development plan," take on extra responsibilities, track my progress, and then... nothing. Turns out, I was just doing my boss's work for free.
Seen this happen many many times. Person is an ace at their job, but wants a job in another capacity for more pay. Supervisor then sabotages their chance at the better job because no one else (they think) can do the lesser paying job as well. Many times. I had a good friend in HR who saved me from this fate. Supervisor will then try to hold on to said employee as long as they're allowed to. My friend had to threaten the supervisor before he would let me transfer.
Work taught me that even if you report harassment by a coworker nothing will get done about it. I'm dealing with it right now and the guy keeps calling me a rat and threatening me.
Document harassment. Document reporting. And when nothing is done, take both sets of documentation to the labor board and state attorney general's office.
And with todays tech, it's often easier to get it on video than many people think. Discrimination is another issue that happens everyday. Some companies are well known for allowing it. And don't even get me started on payroll tampering.
Load More Replies...Sounds like my experience when I worked retail. I reported a co-worker who harassed me AND customers (he would flirt/try to get the phone numbers of young female customers). I reported him to HR, who did nothing, but I got “let go” a few weeks later. No unions, sadly :(
I worked in HR and told people to report it to the state. Companies want to protect their reputation, the state likes to win.
Load More Replies...Contact your labor board and report a hostile work environment You also can get a worker's lawyer and sue the company for not protecting you from the harassment
Contact the District Attorney's office. I'm pretty sure that being put on notice by someone much higher up then they will "inspire" HR to act accordingly. Also, the rat impersonating a human being isn't going to enjoy the ride in the back of a squad car, nor standing in front of a judge.
This isn’t just at work; it happened at school when I was a kid. I’d report the bullying, my mom would even call the bullies’ parents, but nothing was ever really done.
They’re legally bound to do something about the harassment. If they don’t take all the documentation including emails and anything from your harasser to the labour board and attorney general. They can be fined by not reporting it or doing something about it, you can also file a protection order against your harasser.
You have to get creative. If he or she sends emails, print them up. If the network goes across state lines, that could get federal charges. One of my co-workers had been protected for years b/c his mommy was one of the bosses. He made the mistake of making threats over a govt server. The terrified woman printed the emails & took them to the police & filed charges. He wasn't arrested but he was fired on the spot with his poor mommy standing there helplessly watching him get escorted from the building. He went onto work at another facility where he got in even bigger trouble. Of course, management at hour place gave him a wonderful recommendation. No mention of why he got fired. He went to prison from that job.
This year I asked for time off (no pay) and it was denied because it was too hard to replace me. So I gave my notice and said I’m willing to stay 2 months if I can get those two days off.
Took the time off, stayed two months. And they replaced me with 2 people lol. Two others left after I did.
“Sorry, you are too good of an employee for us to be kind to you.” The boss.
I used to work the Renaissance Faire. One year I brought the list of weekends to my boss and asked which of the Saturdays I could have off. Without even looking at the list she said, "None of them. You have to be here on Saturdays because there isn't another cake decorator." I asked, "So you're saying I'm the only one in the store who cannot have a Saturday off?" She confirmed that that was true, and I gave my two week notice immediately. I wasn't expecting her to give me all the Saturdays during the run of Faire, but to be told that I couldn't have even one, ever, really pissed me off.
Had a killer team. Store was #1 in the region. New DM didn't like our little small town store kicking the butts of his big city stores. So he brings in someone with the some purpose of disruption. Within about a year most of us had quit, the store fell to dead last in the region and he fired his disrupter. There's only one of us left still with the company and even he transferred to another district long ago.
I asked for a week off, and was told it was a busy time and nobody could be spared. Then suddenly, without explanation, a bunch of us are just not on the schedule. A manager was supposed to call since the past 2 months. We're almost at the week I actually wanted. I'll see what happens.
When I retired, I was replaced by two people. I said "Wow. That's quite a compliment." They said "No, that's damage control."
I've been working since I was 14. Now I'm Corporate America in various roles for over 2 decades. No one EVER says they regret not working harder, not doing more OT, or spending more time with their family. Do not give your personal time to your place of employment. I live by the "8 and skate" motto and LOVE detaching from this world. We literally spend more time with coworkers than our own fam. Live to work or work to live?
Work to pay your bills. If you're expected to do more work, they need to pay for the time. Time and half on weekends and holidays! No exceptions, no excuses.!!
Paid working holidays are for permanent employees -.-
Load More Replies...It means that you work your eight-hour shift, then leave for the day. In other words, act your wage, not theirs.
Load More Replies...Work to live, the job is a job, no matter what job you do. Things come and go, but people, experiences and time are one chance only. Work to live, and live, you never know when it's your last
When starting any new job. Make sure you do the same amount of work as your coworkers. There’s nothing like a new over achieving employees to p**s off all their coworkers by showing them up. And the boss will expect more from you forever. Slow down and don’t blow the curve.
One of my "old timers" at my last job told me not to "work (my)self out of work." Best advice ever. I now perform at 80% capacity, still do slightly better than average and don't burn myself out if there's a crunch and I have to put in extra effort.
Total BS. Always work hard in any job you do. If your work ethic is showing up other people then the problem is them, not you. And these things are noticed, believe me. If you have someone that you think is showing you up, you better pull your socks up or your days are numbered.
This is the BS your corporate overlords want you to believe. To get are paying you as little as they can get away with; in return you should do as little as you can get away with.
Load More Replies...My father in law taught me that is the definition of quality control in the workplace. Never give 100% because you'll always be expected to do 200%. Leave some wiggle room.
There's been a couple newer employees at my job that have just blown past me in achievements and higher up roles within a month or 2. Makes me feel like I'm not good enough and possibly be the first they let go.
Ah, but some of us THRIVE on outperforming others! I ain't there to make friends; I'm there to get as much money as possible while doing MY absolute best. When I take a day off, the sailing is never smooth, and I'm made aware of it. I've had 6 raises & 3 promotions in 7 years because I found the rare company that DOES notice & reward hard work.
Once you have the job you no longer need to impress anyone so just do enough to not get fired
That depends on whether it's just a job, or there's a career path. If you want to get promoted, you have to stand out among your peers - primarily by doing what your boss wants.
As long as your boss allows you to move up or over.
Load More Replies...Isn't that most people work just hard enough not to get fired and get paid just enough money not to quit?
And hope there isn't a downturn and , ooops we have to let go the weakest and you're at the bottom of the list.
That's not good advice. With that attitude you'll be the first to let go if anything goes awry. Better: work to rule. Do a reasonably good job and a pinch above, but not too much so you don't burn out or get stressed but still just enough to be considered reliable and trustworthy. That way you can guarantee a steady and flawless output and you'll see that while everyone around you hustles and bustles you'll still be among the high performers, simply because your steady and controlled input will create less mistakes which means less work with still more and better outcome. While your coworkers evaluation line will look like a rollercoaster, yours will be a steady line, slightly above average, and if push comes to shove everyone else will burn out like a candle while you can easily take on some more and shine when it counts. That's when you'll be celebrated as the hero saving the day while no one remembers the hustlers
I work very hard to impress my boss. In return, i expect a solid written letter of recommendation i can use forever. Also, with excellent work, boss will mostly leave me alone, let me do my job as i see fit, and give me the benefit of the doubt if something bad happens, like irate customers or workplace disputes
I partially disagree here. More than once I was an overachiever and more than once they wanted me gone for it. Store level loved it but the big dogs didn't. I always thought the business of retail was to profit as much as possible regardless of how it's done as long as it's legit.
when you're new, you notice the "highschool cliques". pretty embarrassing.
My wise Grandmother taught me that "high school never ends." Once you accept that, then you can deal with it like an adult. Thankful to her!
More like the gossipers, the people working at one station/department who think they're better than everyone else, the older ladies who gossip and think they're superior to all, the gamers who do nothing but make gaming/fantasy references all day, the ones who can only complain about being at work and just talk about how they'll quit "one day", the ethnic groups who stick to themselves but don't want to invite anyone else to sit with them.
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Lazy workers are the most efficient, they want to do as little as possible to get the same result.
Lazy people are the smartest as they will create ways to do the bare minimum with the same or improved results. Southern Europeans are seen as lazy but what we are really? Smart as hell 🤠
Load More Replies...Want to know if they're getting ready to fire you? Look for the job listing. Apply.
Well this is not something that you learned :) Bill gates said this, soemthing like 20 years ago. Exactly the same words
Lazy workers are the best give them the hardest job and most will find a way to do it quicker
Or they'll muck it up so badly and make work a living hell for the rest of us.
Load More Replies...All good mathematicians are lazy. The want to solve a problem or do a proof in as few steps as possible. And each step should be as simple as possible.
I work from home 4 days a week, so I automated all of the repetitive tasks assigned to me. I let the rest build up until the day I am in the office so I have something to make me look busy. The rest of the week I am online if an emergency comes up, but I spend the day doing housework and surfing bored panda.
You could fall over dead at work and the opening for your position will be posted the next day. If they decide to wait that long.
I work for a great company, I love working for this company. But even they won’t drag their feet in replacing me if something happens. In fact, I applied for my position before the person I replaced was officially fired.
It's actually surprusing how many younger people don't integrate this knowledge and feel obligated to stay in a position because they "committed" to it don't want to leave a "nice and supportive" boss hanging. I tell my kid sister all the time that she's allowed to quit her job and go to college like she wants, (she has a college fund) but her "nice and supportive" boss is always making her feel like he's doing her all these workplace favors and basically steam rolling her into sticking around with a combination of guilt and incentive. She's 22 and doing great at work, but already knows she's not interested in that field long term and it's way past time for her to leave it but it's her first job and she feels obligated to stay "another six months" which never actually ends. It was supposed to be a summer job between college terms but she's been there for three years now.
Load More Replies...Why would they drag their feet? Sorry everyone we have to close the company for a day, Mary, the senior payroll clerk died and we're having a day of mourning
Once you die, they just assume you're not coming back unless you were known for hanging around the office water cooler and changing it into wine.
Standard technique is to do work quickly then play games for the rest of the day
Or to do most of the work, then decide to go take a lunch break, then get seduced by the elegant exterior of a lunch place where the bread basket alone costs more than your car and order a six-course meal and tell yourself "It's fine, I'll have leftovers" but every portion is asparagus foam and barely feels like food so you go order Mcdonalds and break down in the parking lot wondering why you're stuck in a soulless corporate job before going back to the workplace and eating soggy chicken nuggets while you complete the rest of the work until you head home, another piece taken out of your soul.
Wait, you can leave for your lunch break?? Lucky. Ours is so far back in the building that by the time we walked up to the front door, it's time to go back. Plus if you do get outside, someone with a key card as a permanent employee has to let you back in.
Load More Replies...Where is this magical job where people talk about being bored all the time and how they can complete their work in 2 hours without someone checking on them regularly? I don't get it. Any job where I can sit down and say I'm bored would be my dream job at this point.
This is a terrible work ethic to me! I don't play games at work! BP only! LOL
Confidence, and even over confidence, gets you further than hard work does. Perception is everything, the work matters the least. At least in corporate jobs.
Also, being tall and masculine. I recently had a customer refuse to believe that I was the manager and insist that my trainee help him instead because he, "looks like he's the manager."
This happens a lot with women, too. I can't tell you how many times someone asked to speak to a male supervisor. Meanwhile, all the supervisors at my job are women. At my last job where I was in charge, I'd get the same thing. I worked with a guy who was tall (he was the worst employee I ever had, honestly) but people always assumed he was in charge. It happens, sadly, with short and tall men, too. A taller man will always be assumed to be the person in charge. It's annoying.
Load More Replies...Perception is everything, reality is nothing. "How are you?" - answer, "Busy, busy, busy". Carry file folders or laptop as you go to restroom (to read a magazine!) or as you leave & return from long lunch/shopping. Fill your calendar with fake meetings. Decline requests to do extra (commitees etc) saying "As much as I'd like to do that, I just don't have the bandwidth". Do less work and have a better reputation and more rewards.
Closed mouths don’t get fed. Putting in the work? Don’t wait to be noticed. Bring that up every single chance you can and if it’s not getting you anywhere, jump ship.
Before you jump that ship, be sure you have another ship ,to jump into...just saying.
I used to get sent to upper management meetings in place of our actual boss. The one day our director was saying she developed this new way of doing things. I let her finish & then raised my voice & reminded her that I was the one who put that recommendation in the year before. She had a shocked look on her face since nobody ever stood up for themselves. Yay, I got a $50 bonus for something that would save them a few hundred thousand dollars.
Great advice! Document, document, document. Note the major and medium stuff you're working in so you have it to speak to during one on one's and annual review time. Put it on your work calendar...completed XYZ project and forget to mark it Private, so whoever surfing your calendar can see it. Etc
I had a coworker who would write up all the at-a-boys she got from clients and had her manager sign off on a bonus or small promotion for her.
People who add value to a business are given the opportunity to add more value. Any business worth running is on the lookout for more people able to add more value.
Now if you’re working your a*s off without ever reaching for opportunities, it’s like revving a chainsaw without ever setting it to wood. Of course you’re not going to get ahead.
If you’re working your a*s off and that business is run by s**tbags eager to exploit you, that’s like reviving a chainsaw and setting it to a rock or a car or a chain link fence. You’re in the wrong place. Go find a place where your tools are recognized for their worth. And for the love of money don’t rage quit, having a job is the best way to get a job.
But if the desire is to complain to comfort yourself to make it through the day, you can do that too. But you’re gonna have a lot more s****y days and a lot more s**t to talk about the unfair reasons other people get ahead while you don’t.
I would say having the right skills at the right job at the right pay is like running a chainsaw through a pallet of butter. Satisfying. (Or jello.)
Never respond to emails too quickly. More often than not, this is the key to staying efficient while not being overloaded.
Let them wait, they don't like it ,too bad. If it's a boss that's using you., and your efforts for self promotion, let them come to you. Make them work for it. In my opinion....
Also don't do work that another department has asked you to do, whether via email or verbally. Send an email to your manager (or forward the email from the other department) briefly explaining what's being asked of you & let your manager decide if they want you to do the work. I used to do this when I worked for a very toxic company & if/when the other department would ask why I hadn't done what they asked, I'd refer them to the manager.
Ah yes, be as uncooperative and petty as you can. We all know that delaying and deflecting is a great way to get rewarded.
And don't answer your phone just because it makes noise. Treat it just like an email - check it when you get a chance. There's no reason a phone call should be more important than an email.
This is probably going to get downvoted to oblivion, but:
You are your best advocate.
In non-Reddit-caricature workplaces, efficiency and additional responsibility are the only path to recognition and promotion - IF you advocate for yourself and ensure your current supervisor knows that you expect to be rewarded for the extra work you're taking on. It's only a punishment if you stay passive and eat it.
This only applies to exempt salaried positions. I don't know how things work in hourly or non-exempt.
Every culture of self-promotion has an element of peer-denunciation. This is always phrased as “he’s a really great guy, but…” followed by a suggestion that advances your ambition cloaked in “what’s best for the organization.”
There is no need to put anyone down to promote yourself. In fact it's a negative if you do.if you say any differentiation puts down someone else, well ok
Load More Replies...I have a friend who worked at the same place I did years ago. He hired on as a general laborer. They found out he is a very skilled welder, so guess who started getting all the welding jobs. Went to the boss to get a raise and was denied. He packed up his tools and quit. They wanted a welder at helper wages. Screw 'em and their greedy selves.
Yeah hourly doesn't do that unfortunately. Even if you get all your work done for the day, they'll shove more down your throat at the same pay rate
Your best advocate is the whole workforce. That's why unions are so necessary.
Race plays a factor and don’t anybody nobody tell you different.
People might get mad, but in my experience and from seeing my wife's work as well, white males are generally hired for potential while all others must have a proven track record for consideration. In the corporate world, I have seen more white males fail up than I would have believed possible. This isn't their fault, just how many systems are run...
I noticed racism in a totally unexpected way at my retail job. So, I’m white af but I was adopted at birth into a Mexican family, so I’m fluent in Spanish. Whenever a Hispanic customer came in who didn’t speak English, the managers would grab me to translate, ignoring and pointedly snubbing my Hispanic co-workers, even if I was busy on a task and they were not. It was bizarre and made me feel very uncomfortable. I can only imagine how my co-workers felt :( (my managers were white, of course)
Depends where you work. If you work at Tim Hortons or any fast food chain in Canada, everyone is of one or 2 ethnicities except the manager, who happens to the only white one there. Everyone else is East and Southern Asian by a very high majority. I've applied at some and got some dirty looks along with "we're not hiring. We'll still take your resume." and saw them toss it in the bin as I walked out. The big thrift store I work at now as way more diversity and doesn't discriminate against anyone's age, ethnicity, religion, etc.
Bi-lingual plays a factor too, at least in the US. One place I worked hired a girl with zero knowledge, zero experience only because she spoke Spanish. It's just a corporate thing, speak Spanish, get hired. We didn't actually have very many South American customers and those we did spoke English and resented anyone speaking Spanish to them. As soon as she'd start, they'd stop her and tell her "this is America and we speak English. We don't want to hear that from you." So then she's suddenly completely unqualified for the field but also unwanted by both the customers and the employees. They never did fire her, she finally quit on her own.
When the manager in charge of employee of the month is Hispanic and you're white, be ready to never be in the running, even when you meet all the criteria your workplace set forward. 😬 Especially if you're not on her favorites list.
the less you work,the more you get paid
The less you work the more likely you are to be let go, so if that's your goal👍
I get the general vibe is "don't do more than is needed", which I am on board with, but I don't agree that the less you work, the more you get paid.
When a project closes:
The non performers get rewarded.
The performers get punished.
The unassociated get raises.
The squeakiest wheel gets a promotion.
If someone is a non performer, they need to be called out about it. If they want the pay they should do the work.
Example: in the presentation. Let everyone know, this person was assigned ex... duties.... But failed to do so. Therefore, the rest of us on the team, had to take care of the assignment.
Load More Replies...Yes, true because non-performer get more and more projects and rewards and stay with a company dragging down performance until the company goes bankrupt and everyone is fired. Oh wait.......
That's why I love to work alone if possible, I usually do the work anyways and there is nobody slowing me down
Work your wage. That's all. Your boss is making more money than you, let them work their wage, too. If you do something extra, put the highlights in an email to your boss, keep a copy in an email folder titled Accomplishments. When reviews come around, you're ready to write your own.
This list made me kinda sad. I can't imagine being in a profession I hated and clearly the people commenting here must in order to be this bitter. I work in healthcare and if we all have this "just do enough to not get fired" then patients suffer and potentially die. It's not acceptable! I absolutely love what I do because I see the rewards I see patients getting life saving tests and treatments and I see them get better when they come back for follow up's. I go home every night with a smile on my face because I know I'm truly helping make peoples lives better and longer. If you don't get this kind of joy from your work I sure hope you can find it.
LEARN TO SAY NO! It has taken me 20 years to feel confident and comfortable to say no where reasonable and jeebus it feels liberating. One recent example was, I was asked to run the footy tipping when I don't follow the style of footy in the state I live in. The Director began asking me by saying, 'because you're so organised and always seem to be on the ball, can you look after the footy tippping for this year?' My response was 'No, I don't follow the footy down here, so I'm not keen to run the tipping.' I suggested he ask one of the other office staff who do follow and know what they're doing, or look after it himself (he's a die hard fan and listens on the radio everyday.)
A number of these are pretty cynical, and probably American. I'm not saying that they are not things to consider, but there are no hard and fast rules here. I went above and beyond, I got promoted. I got extra bonus because the net promoter score was higher than forecast for the target, even though the company profits were tight. I get my manager checking on me if I work outside of my hours, encouraging me to log off if I don't need to be there, or to take the time back if I do.
Most of these are terrible advice basically encouraging people to accept being mediocre at a mediocre job. I started out as a homeless teenager, working illegally under that table as a dishwasher at a restaurant I never even got formally hired at. Just saw the sign, walking in during the lunch rush, and started working when nobody had time to talk to me. I worked my a*s off at every job I had, from grocery store stocker to food processing plant worker, to fish gutter, to non profit intern, and got every letter of recommendation I could gather, every reference I could gain, and made every connection I could no matter how seemingly insignificant. More importantly, I learned every skill anyone was willing to teach me. I did that s**t with a positive attitude no matter what. Out of all the interviews I've done in 20 years of working, only one time did I not get the job in interviewed for. I got every raise I asked for, not always as much as I wanted, but I was never turned down flat, and every promotion I sought out, because I was always doing 110%. My coworkers typically liked me, because I was always willing to chip in and help them, particularly if it meant learning new skills from them, and I showed my appreciation. When I got injured and was unable to work, I got years of extra support from people I'd worked with and for over the years, and offers to find something I could do when I was able to start working again. I loved the field and job I ended up in. I mean yeah, don't settle, but if a job isn't ideal, kick a*s at it anyway while you search for the next thing. Always be eager to learn, most people are more than happy to teach you what they do and share their skill set. I was an obviously queer young black female with no college or even highschool diploma or even a driver's license when I started out, literally living out of my backpack anywhere i could crash cheap or free. So my story isn't blind privilege speaking assuming those with less can do the same. I had the s**t end of most sticks when it came to privilege, and some of my best memories were awesome jobs I worked and great people I met along the way. You gotta be willing to work twice as hard as those around you sometimes, particularly if you're forging an unconventional path. And moaning woe is me over it all the time is just gonna make you feel worse, and everyone will pick up on your negativity. Bosses will almost always value employees with positive outlooks who uplift the people around them instead of moping and complaining and treating the boring and mundane bits like drudgery all the time.
Another thing, standing out even at jobs you know are temporary is important because when someone remembers you really positively from 15 years ago when they're called as a reference that really says something to potential employers.
Load More Replies...What the heck is this??!! An entire article on being lazy? Does no one have any self-worth anymore? Do well because it feels good. Working to be the laziest least helpful person you can be feels like c**p.
Lot of whining here and most people doing it wrong. Here’s reality - work smarter, not harder. Find out what your boss wants you to do and do that. Even better, find out what your boss’s boss wants and do that. Be positive and enthusiastic about what they want you to be enthusiastic about. Make sure your performance is always in the top half of the team. Ensure you are perceived as a hard worker and open to feedback. Toxic environment? Start looking for a new job. Note that none of this includes being worked to death, constantly available or taking any c**p.
Go to school or otherwise gain a skill so you can stop having a job and have a profession instead. I know that it isn't easy, but after finishing my masters degree and starting my current job, I don't have to deal with most of this BS. I won't pretend it's perfect but I have opportunity for growth, some control over my day-to-day, actual rewarding work.
Work your wage. That's all. Your boss is making more money than you, let them work their wage, too. If you do something extra, put the highlights in an email to your boss, keep a copy in an email folder titled Accomplishments. When reviews come around, you're ready to write your own.
This list made me kinda sad. I can't imagine being in a profession I hated and clearly the people commenting here must in order to be this bitter. I work in healthcare and if we all have this "just do enough to not get fired" then patients suffer and potentially die. It's not acceptable! I absolutely love what I do because I see the rewards I see patients getting life saving tests and treatments and I see them get better when they come back for follow up's. I go home every night with a smile on my face because I know I'm truly helping make peoples lives better and longer. If you don't get this kind of joy from your work I sure hope you can find it.
LEARN TO SAY NO! It has taken me 20 years to feel confident and comfortable to say no where reasonable and jeebus it feels liberating. One recent example was, I was asked to run the footy tipping when I don't follow the style of footy in the state I live in. The Director began asking me by saying, 'because you're so organised and always seem to be on the ball, can you look after the footy tippping for this year?' My response was 'No, I don't follow the footy down here, so I'm not keen to run the tipping.' I suggested he ask one of the other office staff who do follow and know what they're doing, or look after it himself (he's a die hard fan and listens on the radio everyday.)
A number of these are pretty cynical, and probably American. I'm not saying that they are not things to consider, but there are no hard and fast rules here. I went above and beyond, I got promoted. I got extra bonus because the net promoter score was higher than forecast for the target, even though the company profits were tight. I get my manager checking on me if I work outside of my hours, encouraging me to log off if I don't need to be there, or to take the time back if I do.
Most of these are terrible advice basically encouraging people to accept being mediocre at a mediocre job. I started out as a homeless teenager, working illegally under that table as a dishwasher at a restaurant I never even got formally hired at. Just saw the sign, walking in during the lunch rush, and started working when nobody had time to talk to me. I worked my a*s off at every job I had, from grocery store stocker to food processing plant worker, to fish gutter, to non profit intern, and got every letter of recommendation I could gather, every reference I could gain, and made every connection I could no matter how seemingly insignificant. More importantly, I learned every skill anyone was willing to teach me. I did that s**t with a positive attitude no matter what. Out of all the interviews I've done in 20 years of working, only one time did I not get the job in interviewed for. I got every raise I asked for, not always as much as I wanted, but I was never turned down flat, and every promotion I sought out, because I was always doing 110%. My coworkers typically liked me, because I was always willing to chip in and help them, particularly if it meant learning new skills from them, and I showed my appreciation. When I got injured and was unable to work, I got years of extra support from people I'd worked with and for over the years, and offers to find something I could do when I was able to start working again. I loved the field and job I ended up in. I mean yeah, don't settle, but if a job isn't ideal, kick a*s at it anyway while you search for the next thing. Always be eager to learn, most people are more than happy to teach you what they do and share their skill set. I was an obviously queer young black female with no college or even highschool diploma or even a driver's license when I started out, literally living out of my backpack anywhere i could crash cheap or free. So my story isn't blind privilege speaking assuming those with less can do the same. I had the s**t end of most sticks when it came to privilege, and some of my best memories were awesome jobs I worked and great people I met along the way. You gotta be willing to work twice as hard as those around you sometimes, particularly if you're forging an unconventional path. And moaning woe is me over it all the time is just gonna make you feel worse, and everyone will pick up on your negativity. Bosses will almost always value employees with positive outlooks who uplift the people around them instead of moping and complaining and treating the boring and mundane bits like drudgery all the time.
Another thing, standing out even at jobs you know are temporary is important because when someone remembers you really positively from 15 years ago when they're called as a reference that really says something to potential employers.
Load More Replies...What the heck is this??!! An entire article on being lazy? Does no one have any self-worth anymore? Do well because it feels good. Working to be the laziest least helpful person you can be feels like c**p.
Lot of whining here and most people doing it wrong. Here’s reality - work smarter, not harder. Find out what your boss wants you to do and do that. Even better, find out what your boss’s boss wants and do that. Be positive and enthusiastic about what they want you to be enthusiastic about. Make sure your performance is always in the top half of the team. Ensure you are perceived as a hard worker and open to feedback. Toxic environment? Start looking for a new job. Note that none of this includes being worked to death, constantly available or taking any c**p.
Go to school or otherwise gain a skill so you can stop having a job and have a profession instead. I know that it isn't easy, but after finishing my masters degree and starting my current job, I don't have to deal with most of this BS. I won't pretend it's perfect but I have opportunity for growth, some control over my day-to-day, actual rewarding work.
