Service people EXPECT upwards of 20% and they throw shame all over the place if people don't. Saying things like if you can't afford a 25% tip then you can't afford to do this, that and anything else. Why is it my responsibility to supplement your income for your job choice? Because it isn't. I am not tipping a coffee person. I am not tipping takeaway. I will tip at a restaurant, BUT it is dependent on the service I was provided. I don't not tip there, but, it is not a given amount, no matter what is printed on the bottom of the receipt for suggested amounts - which always start at 18%. TBH I haven't gone to a restaurant since 2019 due to covid, and I don't miss that aspect at all.

THIS and it's not like tipping At a regular cafe gets you anywhere they still mess my order up and have attitude, unlike at a bar

I am with you more than 10000%. The craziest part is how "service industry" changes their ideas of tips depending on where they are.. you think those baristas tip at a hotel? For getting their tires done? A heavy UPS delivery? NOPE! Those are all service industries in which tips are accepted, but rarely given. I'm MUCH more likely to tip the UPS guy, carrying a 100lb box into my house because I can't lift it myself, a hotel housekeeper who made sure my room is spotless and damn near germ-free, or the guy who did my tires and gave me a discount- than a barista who hands me an already expensive drink.

Same, especially at places like SBUX, Panera, fast food joints, etc. At sit-down restaurants, where waiters are doing major balancing acts (literally and figuratively), then I tip....and you gotta do something phenomenally stupid for me not to tip at those places.

the thing is it isn't even like baristas need tips to make up their wages in the same way wait staff do. they get paid at least min wage, we're not expected to tip fast food employees so why now are baristas expected to be tipped the same as in a sit down restaurant like idk, Applebee's or Chili's or whatever

I agree, a tip is not given unless you earn it. Just showing up to work is not enough , you have give service first, that being said , hospitality workers should get paid more from employers , tips should be an extra , not an income

Mostly responding to this because the 2 people with actual value for comments have been voted down and hidden. Pathetic

Yes but you also need to wrap your mind around the fact that minimum wage for restaurant service jobs is MUCH lower than general minimum wage. Their tips are built in as part of their wage whether they get tips that night or not. I understand tipping culture has gotten out of hand and that we don't need to be tipping the Crumble Cookies people who don't even cash you out [BTW they use Betty crocker and other cookie mixes, they dont make them from scratch] or things like the grocery delivery people who literally just drove 2 miles to bring your groceries - someone else did the work of shopping for you. But people like you would also be complaining if these servers got paid more than minimum wage AND got tips because they would be earning as much as people with degrees. It's a give and take. There are plenty of people working office jobs where they literally just play around all day and make 6 figures. Maybe we should be looking at those people who are clearly unnecessary.

Local Subway at my job gives me dirty looks when I use my debit card to pay for my icee or a small sub and I click "skip" on the top option🙄. Everytime it's a different total when I order only an medium icee only or when I order a 6in with bacon and egg with mayo ONLY. Yesterday my daughter ordered one of their $4.99 specials and it came out to over $8. When my 19yr old handed me the receipt they had made it into a 6in rotisserie chicken sub with cheese and $1.50 charge for ham when it's listed as one of their $4.99 specials. Ppl wonders why MOST ppl that orders from the Subway at my job will NOT tip those workers. The amount changes every damn time and it's mainly the high school kids ringing orders up different prices all of the time for the same items even when it's supposed to be a special limited time price. Maybe if these ppl that expects tips that works in fast food gets the orders right or actually rings up the order for the said price ppl would actually start tipping them.

You can disagree with it all you like but, as a society, for some reason, we let corporations and businesses get away with outsourcing a percentage of the responsibility of paying their workers. Right now that rate is 20%. You can dislike that, disagree with it, sure. Work to change it? Absolutely. But as long as it's that way, when you leave you are knowingly taking on that responsibility. Not paying it is the same as taking their wages. I hope your boss sees this and docks a percentage of your pay because you "didn't go above and beyond."

And a tip is given voluntarily, no one is entitled to a tip for sloppy service no matter how bad the wages are. That is a problem with the employer and not the responsibility of the customer. One poor excuse for a 'waiter' ran yelling all across the parking lot after us complaining with his grubby little hand out because his 'service' merited not a tip but a reprimand and I had given neither.

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Intentionally taking money without permission. Let’s give the barista the benefit of the doubt, may have been a mistake.