People Are Sharing Parenting Trends They Disagree With And Here Are 30 Of The Most Hated Ones
The practices and norms around raising kids change over time, with each generation of parents redefining the classic role. These shifts take place due to a number of factors, including new research, technologies, or the desire to "do it differently than our old folks did." But that doesn't mean that all of them are automatically better than the older ways.
So when Reddit user The_WhiteMantis asked everyone on the platform to share the parenting trends that they wholeheartedly disagree with, people immediately started sharing their opinions. From making your children the butt of your jokes to never telling them "no," below you will find the submissions that received the most attention.
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Not vaccinating children.
Big shout out to all the selfish asshats who are allowing preventable diseases and diseases that were essentially eradicated to come back full force.
Less polio is always a good thing. Remember when we had less polio? :( I could never harm my children by exposing them to diseases humanity has already figured out how to avoid, it’s so irresponsible and unintelligent
Load More Replies...Thankfully, a huge number of unvaccinated kids are smarter than their parents, and running full speed to the nearest clinic to get fully vaccinated the millisecond they turn 18, because that's when their parents can't do anything about it but clutch their crystals and huff their essential oils.
It's a small venn diagram of people who use essential oils, have lots of crystals and greenstones, flat earthers, and antivaxxers
Load More Replies...There are many school districts in the US, if not most, that require proper vaccinations before the child can attend the school.
But there is still the loophole in most states that allows exceptions for religious or health reasons so it's discrimination to deny an unvaxxed kid to attend, so they get away with it
Load More Replies...My cousin's aren't vaccinated and they haven't vaccinated their children, one of their little ones is constantly sick with different problems with their lungs (actually a history of TB in our family), I really think they need to get the little one vaccinated but she won't hear tell of it and was absolutely raging with the hospital staff for suggesting it.
My one cousin refused to vaccinate her kids. And one got measels and is now deaf.
Load More Replies...These idiots are just stupid. I'd not want any kid of mine to contract polio, measles, whooping cough, etc. The list goes on and on.
People in my city have died of heart attacks because the hospitals are so full of kids with whooping cough.
Load More Replies...From the autistics... It really effing sucks to hear "I'd rather my child be dead than risk autism." Neurodiversity is natural human diversity.
Load More Replies...Don't vaccinate your kids be prepared to 1,Homeschool. 2, work from home. 3, online shopping only with delivery to the door no contact. 4, no going to any public places including parks, stores or anywhere. 5, need to sign official legal documents stating that you and your children don't want any type of health care, especially relating to all the diseases previously wiped out but making a comeback thanks to you idiots.
The trend of oversharing kids' lives on social media. It's like turning your child's childhood into a reality TV show.
Who finds the life of some youtuber's child interesting, apart from creeps?
Their family, maybe, but that can be sent to them privately
Load More Replies...A few years ago my grandkids, now ages 9 and 7, used to love watching the Swedish Family on YouTube but about 6 months ago they told me that they didn't like it anymore because they could tell the kids didn't want to be on video all the time. Almost everything they did was dictated by how fun it would be on camera. The only income the family has coming in is from sponsors.
Lots of those parents are probably hoping to cash in on their kids shenanigans.
This 100% I will never understand. A pic here n there on holidays for friends and family but sharing their every day life and all is so dangerous to their well being, mental health etc.
I’m not on social media like Facebook very often and I definitely wouldn’t put my kids pictures on there for any weirdo to drool over.
We contacted The_WhiteMantis, and the Redditor explained that they came up with the idea for their post thanks to the radio.
"The question popped into my head after I heard a conversation on the radio about the usage of phones by minors," The_WhiteMantis told Bored Panda.
"I did not have time to read all the comments due to the huge size of the discussion, however, I did notice some recurring themes: 1) providing devices to minors, 2) parents living vicariously through their children, and 3) being overprotective of them."
Never saying no to your child.
they have to know that they can't get everything. adulthood is gonna hit them hard
...hit them hard AND make it even worse for people around them, because who needs an army of Karens.
Load More Replies...A corollary to this is the people who don't tell the kids to say "please" unless the parent plans to say 'yes'. So, kid asks for something, and if the parent is going to refuse, they just say 'no'. But when the kid asks, and the parent is going to say 'yes', they tell the kid, "What do you say?" And the kid says, "Please." And then the parent says 'yes'. What does it teach? The kid thinks that any time they say "please", they should get what the asked for. They get older and they get real pissy about it when someone says 'no'.
No not a hard word, parents don’t use it because they don’t want to deal with their kid, just like going through and getting fast food all the time, then that’s what your child expects for a meal and if you decide you’re going to cook at home your child doesn’t eat, because, hey it didn’t come out of a fast food bah
No. A "man child" (or the female equivalent) is created by parents who do everything for him instead of teaching him how to be an adult. Never telling a child no is creating an entitled adult (of either sex).
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I’ve seen a small yet growing trend of homeschooled kids where the parents are completely neglectful of actual education and basically let the kid do whatever they want. They don’t follow standardised curriculum for the sake of “letting kids be kids.” If your kid can barely read at 10 years old, you’re setting them up to fail as an adult.
I love that it's not allowed here. One of the reasons - and it had been recently reaffirmed by our Bundesgerichtshof (Supreme court, except mostly non-partisan and useful) - is that children NEED to be confronted by different opinions, looks and cultures and that a school is the best place to learn to tolerate the existence of such. Homeschooling, no matter the intentions of the parents, isolates the child to just their home-life and their personal family-culture. The judges said it damages a child if they aren't taught how to accept differences and learn how to tolerate them. There are many reasons to be annoyed by my country, but there are things that are absolutely amazing so overall, I'm still glad I was born here and not somewhere else.
Load More Replies...The frightening thing is it's usually the LEAST qualified parents who decide to pull their kids out of school and homeschool them. People who dropped out of high school, or who barely passed. People who can't count dimes without coming up with a five at the end of the total. People who are completely clueless about history, grammar, spelling, basic math, geography, etc. So what TF do they think they're going to be able to teach their kids? How to b***h about making minimum wage? I am really worried about a chunk of the upcoming generations being illiterate and ignorant and incapable of supporting themselves. Remember, these are the kids who will grow up to run the country one day. We might just have an actual Idiocracy in the future.
Absolutely! What you end up with are non-critical thinkers that shout their misinformation from the rooftops and claim they are being repressed and discriminated against.
Load More Replies...If you're physically abusing your child, sooner or later it will be spotted when they go to school. Homeschooling gets around this.
This. When I learned that homeschooling is a thing in the US (I'm not from US), this is the first thing that crossed my mind.
Load More Replies...Used to dread when a previously home-schooled child started at the school I worked in. Firstly 9 times out of 10 they were way behind in their learning, not just academically but in knowing how to socialise with other children. But also the parents were often a nightmare to deal with. One father grabbed me and threatened to punch me when I talked to him about his son's violent bad behaviour - wonder where the son got that from?
This is so sad. My sister home-schooled her older children for many years. But she was a trained teacher herself. She always made sure they socialized with other kids. I mean, kids don't normally get most of their socializing done at school. But some home-schoolers are weird enough to prevent their kids from playing with the neighbors. My sister's kids had all kinds of classes and events and things. Many friends. They were well-educated and well-behaved. They were quite energetic and expected a lot of attention, but would not be disrespectful if they were told it wasn't the right time. Their spirits were not crushed. It was the opposite. They were very full of life. So sad to hear that's the exception to the rule.
Load More Replies...This, except that its not new or growing trend. I grew up being homeschooled for a large chunk of my childhood and we moved in homeschool circles. While there are some exceptions, in my experience, most of the homeschool families did not homeschool because they genuinely believed in better education outcomes for their children. They homeschooled because a) it's cheaper b) real school is inconvenient c) they are raging against the machine (objecting to society, or opting out of it) d) it gets in the way of their dreams to travel/live of grid whatever other parent desires not served by the structure of school. Yes, there are some limited exceptions, but almost all of it comes down to parental selfishness and outcomes from the kids in my community are overwhelmingly poor.
You left out the most important one: religious wackjobs who don’t want their kids to learn about gay people or racism.
Load More Replies...It's called "unschooling". They claim the kids learn by doing (i.e., learn math while cooking). But most of them seem to be lazy parents who are afraid their kids will be exposed to other ways of life if they are educated, and then turn their backs on the parents life choices. (Religion, off-the-grid, whatever)
Mostly, not all. A successful approach depends on the child and the way they learn best. Most kids would not respond well to 'unschooling', some personality types find it the best way of learning and developing. It should always be best for the child.
Load More Replies...Yes, I understand the hype around Montessori learning and everything, but you can't let your kid choose their education without giving them the basics (reading, writing, arithmetic, basic science, etc)
When you really follow the principles of Montessori there's a lot of work involved. You have to know a lot about childdevelopement, be very observant on where your child is in it's developement and then you need to offer things from the next developemental stage to inspire, stimulate, challenge them so their natural curiosity makes them want to learn. That is why Montessori teachers have undergone extensive training.
Load More Replies...We homeschooled our kids so that we could do a better job. Instead of high school they went to the local community college. We knew a lot of other home school families. I think most did it to keep their kids away from information they did not agree with like evolution. Yes there are others that did it because they could not get up in the morning. In the US it is regulated by each state ranging from requiring x hours of structured learning per day to passing 3 standardized tests over 12 years.
If they went to college for high school, that’s not home schooling. It’s going to college
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I hate when people dress up their baby girls in outfits a woman should be wearing. Like there are little girls outfits that are adorable and meant for a little girl. But no little girl should be wearing a body suit and ripped jeans or a crop top and low rise bellbottoms, it gives me the creeps.
It's so weird to me, because you KNOW those clothes are super expensive and the kids are going to grow out of it in a month or so
The clothes are expensive... That's what you find weird?
Load More Replies...This isn't a parenting issue, it's a society thinking they need to dictate what others think, wear, eat, etc. issue.
Dressing children like miniature versions of their parents is nothing new, been going on pretty much ever since clothing was invented.
But so has the concept of an outfit being too mature for a child.
Load More Replies...Just like with little boys, girls who play rough tend to get holes in their jeans, that is just how things works. A few small holes does not nessesarily mean that you should throw away a pair of jeans, they can still be just fine for certain activities, that is hard on what you are wearing.
I believe they are referring to jeans that come new with holes and rips already on them, not simply worn through use. :)
Load More Replies...I agree that no little girl should be wearing c**p like that. I don't see why women "should" wear it either.
Moms and dads often do not follow a specific parenting style. In the United States, for instance, a nationally representative survey of parents with children younger than 18 conducted by the Pew Research Center revealed that when asked about their parenting habits, including whether they tend to be too strict or too lenient, excessively praise or criticize their children, be overprotective or grant too much freedom, and push their children too hard or not enough, a considerable percentage of respondents ranging from 34% to 53% reported that neither option accurately describes their parenting style.
Additionally, almost the same number of parents are either trying to raise their children in a similar way as they were raised (43%) or differently (44%).
Not teaching children proper manners/behavior
Please and thank you go a long a*s way in this life.
Also not helping kids with conversation skills. Conversation usually goes back and forth. With no phones involved.
Regarding manners: Chewing with your mouth open is one that really annoys me! And talking with your mouth full. I get that sometimes it’s unavoidable but it does not take that long to chew the food and swallow it and then talk.
How about the ones who let their kids run around during dinner---at home or in public---and shoving some food in their mouths when they pause their running to catch their breath close by. Teach your child to sit quietly at the table and eat their dinner. If necessary, let them run around all they want before and after, to burn off all that energy. But have them sit while everyone else is eating, especially when out in a restaurant where they can do damage, get hurt themselves, and hurt other people too, all so very unnecessarily. The rest of the world will thank you for it, believe me.
Load More Replies...Some parents do not pass on good manners to their children because the have none themselves to pass on.
Don't get me started on the manners. So many of my students (mostly high school, a few middle school) have no concept and it's disturbing.
I am really seeing the effect of failing conversation skills. First, the children often have no idea how to show polite interest in others. They ignore social cues, attempt to dominate conversationally, or express themselves rudely. Also, the children have self-regulation issues because when they attempt to talk to their parents, the parents are inconsistent due to having their own phones as a distraction. As a result, the children have little experience getting consistent feedback from their caregivers and cannot regulate their own emotions very well as a result.
Please, thank you, yes mam, yes sir, teach them respect not only for themselves but others. Kids today only know how to have a conversation through text or instant messaging or whatever twenty other ways they figure out how to do it on their phones. Something else my child wouldn’t have, unless it was a flip phone
Do gender reveals count? Lighting things on fire, blowing things up and potentially injuring a family member all in an display of obsession over the genitals of your fetus is cringy at best and a small scale natural disaster at worst.
I'm always willing for a gender to be revealed. But instead, it's always those same two genders that everyone already knows about!
It’s not the reason of the party that is the problem. It’s stupid people doing stupid shít. I’ve seen fireworks at Fourth of July and NYE parties. I’ve seen people make a mess with glitter, confetti, balloons at birthday parties and weddings. I’ve seen people shoot guns into the air at Quinceaneras. Have a get together, have fun, just don’t trash the park and do stupid shít
My gender reveal was my OB/Gyn showing me the labia on the ultrasound and going 'yep, that's almost definitely going to be a girl' and me going 'oh, that's really cool'. The end.
Mine was when it popped out of my vag and the midwife told me.
Load More Replies...I think all sane people think the crazy parties are crazy. But I think a gender reveal party of any sort is crazy. It's just another reason for people to get attention. Yes, new traditions to start (otherwise there would be none). But some are just a flash in the pan because they are a bad idea. I sure as hell hope this one dies soon.
Women getting sonograms and the parents finding out the sex of their child, has been going on for a long time. It’s fine
Load More Replies...I saw video on reddit. Gender reveal, where pregnant woman was twerking. UGH
I am SO glad that no one I've met has done one to my knowledge. Also, my parents didn't want to know my gender before birth, I was the second child, and every wanted a surprise
Making your child's entire identity revolve around their extracurricular activities. Let them be kids, not robotic machines for your bragging rights.
Also don't force your unfinished dreams on your kids. They are separate individuals not your extension.
This! My cousin's girlfriend did gymnastics as a kid. She hated it, but her mother forced her, because she wanted her daughter to be successful sportwoman. Her mother also forced her to starve, because gymnast must be thin. Other girls from gymnastics team brought extra food from home and gave it to her. Once she turned 18, she quit gymnastics, moved halfway across the country and went no contact with her mother.
Load More Replies...I used to love trumpet, did it for 3 years then wanted to stop. Had to do it for 8 years because my mother would told me : "if you stop you'll regret it later". I had no weekends so I couldn't go to my friend's birthdays or pyjama parties, had to study every night even though I did not like it... You know how I managed to make my mother agree to stop ? When I was in trumpet classes I would just sit and refuse to play. My teacher told my mother other kids wanted to learn and I was taking a 2h spot for nothing and THEN she agreed to let me stop. Never touched a trumpet in almost 6 years since then.
This is a huge thing in China often including many useless activities like fencing lessons where the safety equipment weighs more than the child.
Yes and for the love of Pete, don’t put them in t-ball and then scream at them like there are scouts on the bleachers picking out their next team of athletes. Let kids be kids. Show them they actually have a yard and the basement or their bedroom isn’t the only room in the house.
I do sailing which is an expensive sport and some people in my family don’t even know my parents don’t have social media or any of that şhit
I have the opposite problem... one of my children wants to do all of the things all of the time. I let her do one sport and one instrument (of her choosing) but I say no to anything else precisely because I want her to have time to just play. I sometimes feel like I am holding her back but she's only going to 'play' for such a few short years. We certainly don't push her.
I think it's pretty normal for some kids to want to try ALL the things, but as parents we have to try and sometimes focus all that energy. Sounds like you're doing just fine.
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I guess this is kinda specific, but my son is autistic, so it applies to me. I hate the “Autism Mom” thing. The t-shirts, the unsolicited “advocacy”…it seems like an attention seeking thing to me. My kid has autism, ADHD, and anxiety, and it takes approximately 5 seconds of being around him to notice. I will fight for him always, of course, but I won’t use him as a badge either. I won’t hide his diagnosis from him, but I won’t let him use it as an excuse either.
And some of those shirts get borderline threatening too…”If you want to know fear, fight an autism mama bear”…or something like that.
The “boy mom” thing is so cringy 😬 I didn’t realize some people did an “autism mom” thing too, that’s even cringier.
Load More Replies...I can't stand this too. It's makes me cringe when they introduce them as being autistic before even telling me their name. Like they can't wait to tell you, like a sick badge of honour.
I have a neighbor with a 6 year old son who is far down the spectrum. I've never seen them wear anything advertising the fact. If they are struggling in public, they MIGHT mention it. They aren't ashamed, they just don't want that to be the only thing that defines their son. The only "sign" is stickers on the windows of their minivan that says an autistic kid is in the child seat behind the window to help paramedics in the event of an accident.
There is no such thing as "far down the spectrum". A "spectrum" is not a "gradient" or "continuum". It means there are a spectrum of possible issues/deficitis autistic people may have. Every autistic person will have more or less problems in any of these areas. It's a "spectrum disorder". It is not "a disorder that is graded from mild to moderate on a spectrum". What you probably mean is the child has high support needs.
Load More Replies...As an anxious AuDHD-er who got diagnosed in adulthood, I would have HATED that as a kid. Being the "autism warrior mum" either means you hate your child's natural neurodiversity and see it as something to battle against rather than celebrating and building your child's skills in a way that works for them or it means that you want to be a hero/martyr. It was bad enough hearing my parents complain to their friends and family how difficult I was or mock me.
My nephew has aspbergers (sp?). She chose not to medicate him because she did not want him to think he needed medicine to be OK. I gotta say he has grown into the most capable, kind, and amazing young man.
I have asd and hdhd, so di my four children and husband, its a fight evrey day and i don't need thos women telling me how to treat my children, i know from the inside. They treat me as incometent because of my autism, so thats how they see their children? Thise who talk with you and share their experiences and so can you are the best. And no I don't walk around shouting my story.
I advocate for my daughter, I also made sure that everything I learned about ASD was taught to her. I set up rapport with her secondary teachers, because I was the one helping her to decode the written word into her much lower level language so she could understand the assignment question. She could then do her assignment and with my proofreading and prompting I helped her to expand 4 or 5 sentences into 2 pages. It was her work, even if it were wrong (a couple of times she wouldn't listen to reason) - she got a little credit for trying and teachers knew I hadn't "done it for her". I was able to pass on "aha" moments that they could help reinforce and they could give me a heads up where she needed help they couldn't give. SHE SURPASSED MY MATH'S LEVEL IN YEAR 10!!!
This is actually a thing? That's f*****g disgusting. My brother has autism but it's not something I need to advertise coz you will notice about three seconds after meeting him.
Talking about the main factors that make parenting trends popular (regardless of their effectiveness), the author of the post believes the internet is arguably the main culprit.
"I think most parents get their ideas on how to raise kids from social media. It seems like a significant proportion of the user base on various platforms is over the age of 30, so it makes sense," The_WhiteMantis said.
Pranking your kids or playing jokes on them. Not all kids understand it’s a joke and it really upsets them. I hate seeing videos of parents thinking it’s ok to throw things at their kids or make them do dumb stuff for amusement. Like the cheese challenge thing. Throwing food at babies….awful behavior.
What is the cheese challenge again? I am not living under a stone but social media stuff doesn't reach me everytime.
You throw a slice of cheese at a baby’s head where it usually sticks on to. Apparently it’s supposed to be funny seeing a baby with a cheese slice stuck on to their head/face….
Load More Replies...At an early age, things are black and white to kids, no gray. You are either nice or mean. I remember my mom lied to me to get me to eat something, I didn't talk to her for days.
@Jbo : Exactly. In a normal relationship, children trust their parents, making bad jokes and making prank of them amounts, in their eyes, to a betrayal that they will take years to forgive you for.
Load More Replies...One I saw recently (no idea how long it had been making the rounds before I saw it) was where the parents were getting the kids involved in baking something and then proceeding to break the eggs either on top of the kids head or in their face. Several parents ended up with faces full of flour that the kids threw at them in anger.
Not accepting that you are helping to build an autonomous adult human being,
Not exactly a trend but: having like 5+ kids and forcing the older ones to basically raise the little ones. i know that sometimes the parents are not well informed about contraception, but it’s still not the kids’ problem! it’s one thing to have them help once in a while, but anything that stops them from living their own lives to raise YOUR kids is just ridiculous. for example: not being able to take an extracurricular activity because they have to be home watching their siblings.
I know someone who was parentified as a child. She cut off contact with her parents, step parents and all but 2 of her siblings.
Like those poor older Duggar girls who raised the 400 little kids their mom kept popping out. I may be exaggerating about 400. ;) I think it's like 21 of them, but still!!
But don't confuse with the experience of helping someone else and being part of a team.
My friend was accused of it when she mentioned forgetting something in the weekly shop (they live in a very rural area) and having her eldest (who was 16 at the time) keep an eye on her two youngest siblings (then 7 and 3) for 20 minutes whilst she went back, rather than load everyone into the car and strapping them into their seats.
Load More Replies...Sometimes I feel as though I raise my younger sister because I tell her to pick up after herself, I help her with her schoolwork, I try and make sure she behaves well, etc.
I obviously don't know your situation but perhaps you should share this with your parents. I hope this helps.
Load More Replies...I'm here to point out the same thing, Steve. It's actually LESS common now than in the past. And, I'm gonna risk the blow back by attributing it to the growing pains of modern feminism. Once upon a time, it was expected of older girls to raise their siblings for the mom training. Then, it was expected of older siblings, regardless of gender, because Mom went to work and Dads had not yet accepted their child rearing responsibilities. Now, between equality and birth control, both parents work, both parents take care of the home and kids. But! we see stuff like the negative post about young adults acting like eternal children. Young people can't f**king win
Load More Replies...I was the baby of seven and not a one of my brothers or sisters watched me, my mom and dad either worked the same shift or opposite so one of them was home with us all the time.
Confusing gentle parenting with permissive parenting.
You can be both gentle and authoritative. Authoritative is *not* authoritarian; it is the role of a parent to provide structure and boundaries for their children while also allowing them to feel their emotions and deal with the ups and downs of being a kid. Go ahead and soothe your children when they are upset and give them a safe space to calm down but you do not have to cushion their world for them in order to avert a meltdown.
According to C.S. Mott Children’s Hospital National Poll on Children's Health, most parents of young children (80%) indeed say they use social media to discuss parenting topics.
Looking deeper, more mothers than fathers use social media to look for parenting advice or information (84% vs 69%) or share their experiences (63% vs 42%).
Never telling your kid no. You’re creating a monster that is going to ruin your life some day. Boundaries and consequences are essential to any kid- well human even- being successful in the world we live in.
Not just your life, but the lives of everyone else they will ever come into contact with. It will not be pretty when their future boss tells your now grown kid no they cannot do some harebrained c**p idea they come up with, and they proceed to throw a full red in the face meltdown tantrum because of it. Boss will just fire their a*s on the spot. You want to end up supporting your kid for the rest of your lives after they burn through every job they ever got with their spoiled brat behavior? Fine. Then never tell them no. But if you ever want to have your kid be a gainfully employed, self-supporting adult, then tell them no when you don't want them to do, say, have, take, touch, eat, drink, walk over---you name it---something that will end up hurting them, you, and anyone or anything else. Teach them how to live in the real world. That's your job as a parent.
This exactly, but I'm seeing the consequences of it in my mum actually. She was always told growing up that she was the only child her dad wanted, she was the smartest and got away with doing whatever she wanted. Now that has no money and is living with me (rent free) and is absolutely unbearable because she wants everything done when and how she wants. No one else's feelings matter and she throws tantrums when she doesn't get what she wants. Then says a fake a*s "sorry" which really means "get over it", to the point that I now despise the word "sorry" because it's literally meaningless! She has never had consequences for her actions and when I try and provide consequences and enforce boundaries she complains that she's being treated like a child, when she's in fact acting like a 3 year old.
If your raising a son, be especially sure that he knows the meaning of "No".
Everyone needs to learn that they can't have everything they want.
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“Gentle parenting” b***h hold your kid at the doctor if they need a test done. “I don’t think she wants to do this test/use this medicine” B***H SHE NEEDS IT. (I work in a doctors office).
I'm sorry, but this doesn't sound like gentle parenting to me. More like neglecting the inconvenient duties of being a parent.
Yeah, that's permissive or anti-authoritarian parenting. Gentle parenting is saying no and acknowledging the child's anger or sadness about it and helping them get through it
Load More Replies...Gentle parenting means meeting your kid in the middle. It’s not a free for all. It means not yelling, screaming, or hitting your kid. It’s means having an age appropriate discussion when they do something wrong or other age appropriate punishments.
It also means validating your child's feelings when they have to do something they don't want (get a shot, be left with a sitter). It's a good way to parent.
Load More Replies...I think this one is a double edged sword. I would never let my child refuse necessary medical care. I am the parent and it is my responsibility to ensure they receive the care they need. I will absolutely hold them if it is necessary. BUT I think there is a lot to be said about informed consent and bodily autonomy. An adult would never be forced to submit to a procedure without knowing what is happening and why. And yet I see medical professionals expect this with children.
My son had a small infection in his foreskin when he was little (apparently normal when they reach the self discovery age). We went to the GP. I told my son beforehand that the GP would need to look. But instead of approaching him gently and asking to see and promising to be gently, the GP said nothing to my kid. He rather abruptly pulled my sons pants down and poked at his penis without warning, explaining or asking. He caused unnecessary pain and my son was distraught and scared. We have an obligation to explain to them what is being done, why it is being done and how it is going to help. We can explain in age appropriate ways to secure consent. My children have always been offered autonomy. In return, they trust me and never refused medical care. That is gentle parenting. It is not allowing your child to dictate. It is giving your child the tools and knowledge to express bodily autonomy, make age appropriate decisions and trust their caregivers - both parents and medical.
Load More Replies...I also worked in a doctor's office. An 11 year old threw a fit over the meningitis vaccine, and the mom said "he says he doesn't want it, I won't make him get it". Lady, please. YOU'RE the parent.
Meningitis can cause lifelong problems. Ridiculous to not have the child get the vaccine.
Load More Replies...Recently my son needed catch up immunisations, that were missed due to Covid. The person on the phone said that they can deal with autistic children. As he needed 2 jabs, we decided it was best that they were done simultaneously otherwise they would only get one done as he would put up a hell of a fight.. So I had to hold his forearms and distract him while both nurses did the jabs into both arms. He screamed for 2 mins then calmed down.
While I know what they mean and agree with the sentiment, this is not the correct definition of gentle parenting.
I work in health care where we regularly need to help children stay still and there is absolutely middle ground between the poster and there subjects. You can support children in understanding what needs to be done and why. And you certainly shouldn't be holding them down against there will. There is a wonderful website called the meg foundation for pain with lots of resources for preparing children for medical procedures and lots of resources for health care workers to do there job better.
My son throws such a fit that he becomes a danger to the staff. I kept trying, but they said they could not get blood from him. Luckily, there was another test that gave us answers.
Loud cartoons and games on tablets in public places.
Same with toys. Why kids toys “need” to be loud is beyond me. Why do they have three volume settings but they’re all too dang loud? The Leapfrog reader books are a good example. It’s a wonder parents of toddlers and young children don’t have hearing damage from how loud their kid are and how loud their kids toys are.
My son has a Leapfrog tablet and even on the lowest volume it can still be heard clearly. A lot of toys are loud so they keep the child's attention. Then they make a noise after a short time of not being played with.
Load More Replies...Why do so many parents think children need constant entertainment? It's ok to be a bit bored at times. What's wrong just staring out the window when on a train journey and being alone with your own thoughts?
Get them headphs. Ive heard wayyyy too many adult convos on speakerphone as well!
I’d rather listen to that than a kid screaming bloody murder because mom made them ride in the cart.
Experts aren't surprised.
"I think this data reflects what we've seen over the past few years," said Titania Jordan, the chief parenting officer of Bark, a parental control app that allows parents to manage their kids’ digital worlds.
"Parents are reaching out more and more for advice on social media for three main reasons: Convenience, new technology, and different ways of parenting."
Giving your child an iPad as soon as they can hold it.
Depends on what you let them do with it. For example a few years ago we put a piano app on my son's iPad and now he is starting to prep for his grade 1 exams. But just unfiltered access to everything is bad. It can be a great educational tool
Sounds as though he was not a toddler anymore when he used the piano app.
Load More Replies...Under the right circumstances, it's no different from giving your child a book. My son had a tablet at a young age, but it was used for playing math games, spelling puzzles, etc., and it was monitored by me, with time limits. Technology is a tool that can be incredibly helpful or destructive, depending upon usage.
Recently a teacher, talking on Radio 4, was telling how many young children start going to his school with an American accent. This is the UK. He said the parents had their mobile phones and the kids were constantly on an ipad. I don't know what is more sad. That or the fact that many children weren't potty trained before starting school. Parent were dropping of their child insisting it was the teachers job to teach them to use the toilet. The teacher said every time a nappy needed changed two teachers had to be present and that disrupted the classes a lot.
I saw something on the BBC about how there are more and more children entering school that are not toilet trained. It's our responsibility as parents to teach them to use the toilet. Yes it is messy, frustrating etc but once it is done, it is done. There is a case for getting social services involved. It wont end at not toilet training.
Load More Replies...Nothing drives me more crazy than seeing kids instantly given a screen the moment they sit down at a restaurant. These are the same parents that usually complain later that their kids have short attention spans!!
I had to wait until I was twelve to get my first phone and be trusted to take it to school. Then I saw people around 5 or 6 with phones
I was in 6th grade when I got my first phone but I shared it with my siblings and it didn’t leave the house at all. Freshmen year was the first time that I was allowed to take it to school, but my mom wanted it turned off and in my backpack. Obviously, that did not happen. I was on that thing all the time and I would just delete the texts if I messaged someone at school 😂
Load More Replies...Limited use can be a good education tool for littler kids (for example, those math games that help you memorize multiplication tables), but it shouldn't be used only for entertainment for a long time
Found an iPad on the side of the road a year back; apparently the couple's child chucked it out the window watching a video on the ABCs. I was able to e-mail the owners and return it to them :)
Parents not having even minimal standards for their children’s behavior, and expecting other people to be alright with it. I really don’t care that he is having “big feelings.” He is lying in the aisle of the supermarket, screaming at the top of his lungs, having a full blown tantrum because you said no. Grow a pair.
While I do agree with the sentiment, this is not a good example. The child is screaming, because their parent is setting up standards. Standards like "I won't buy you anthing you fancy". And toddlers can't deal with those kind of emotions in a different way. They only learn it through experience. And what exactly are you supposed to do with a child to immediately stop a tantrum (if you don't want to cave in every time)?
Take them outside until they can get it together. Don't let you kid disrupt everyone else. When my kid threw a tantrum in public, they would be carried outside the store and sat down somewhere until he could get it together, and I was always on foot. No excuse to let your kid behave that way in public. I left entire carts if I had to.
Load More Replies...Especially at a restaurant. If you aren't paying for everyone else's meal, nobody has to tolerate listening to your child!
I don't mind a fussy baby if the parents are working to calm them. Children who are old enough to know to be quiet... take them out.
Load More Replies...If your child is screaming in a roomful of other people, please take them out if you can. Screaming kids give me a migraine. Worse... when parents let kids run wild. I was a few days out of major abdominal surgery, on my way home from the hospital. Kid rammed into me at the pharmacy (he was running round, shrieking, mum was ignoring). I collapsed in pain, and within a few minutes they could see signs of internal bleeding on my stomach. I could feel that something had torn inside me. I needed emergency surgery to stop the bleeding and re-stitch what the kid had torn. As we were waiting for the ambulance, my then-boyfriend was yelling at the mum to control her kid. The mum: "she shouldn't be out in public if she can't take a kid running into her!" I was at a pharmacy, filling a three-layer form prescription (where only the person whose name is on it can be given the medication). So four more days in the hospital and a blood transfusion.
A lot of times, kids are having a tantrum because they're overtired or overstimulated. Taking your kid to a place with too much input when they're ready for a nap is going to get that reaction. Take your kid home and put them down for their nap, and next time, don't take them out.
Maybe it's best for the kid. But if you're stuck in a small space with strangers and child is tantruming, think of the other people. Five minutes of shrieking child drops me into a migraine for days. I usually remember to bring earplugs with me, but still, it's awful to listen to. I learnt to not tantrum in stores or restaurants by being hauled out to the car and having to wait there until everyone was done.
Load More Replies...When I was 18, my brother was 2. I took him shopping with me to get him out of Mum's hair. He asked for a cheap toy and I told him I couldn't afford it. He got upset on the floor of the aisle. I ignored him and kept walking around to the next aisle. I could see him through the shelving. When he noticed me gone, he stopped and called out to me. I told him if he was going to behave himself I would definitely get him something when I COULD afford it, but not before then. From then on, he still asked for stuff, but he did accept a no when it was given. I don't see this as being tough love because boundaries are being taught early when its easier for them to accept them. Tough love is not teaching boundaries as needed and having to do it later when more likely to be resistant, so its tougher. UGHHH!
The person that wrote this does not have children. This is what toddlers do. It’s normal behaviour
Some folks here are parents. They just don't let their kids be brats.
Load More Replies...Giving them "unique" names.
As a teacher, I saw so many variations on Caitlyn that I was expecting to see "Q8ln".
Having an Eastern European maiden name, even though I am proud of my heritage, I can tell you from experience that a name outside the mainstream can be tough on a kid. You spend your life explaining, pronouncing, and spelling it for people, who don't seem to understand that it is rude to make fun of a person's name, ffs, and they are NOT the first person to think of those words that rhyme with it. Teachers can't pronounce it, and you recognize the silent pause when they're taking the roll probably means they've gotten to your name. Kids will tease you and nickname you something that rhymes with your name---and I don't mean something nice. Last names are hard to avoid, but first names are not. Don't burden your kid with a name they will end up hating because they get so relentlessly teased about it. Your vanity in giving them a "distinctive", but stupid name, or stupid spelling of a normal name, is just setting them up for a lot of mistreatment on the playground and beyond, and that's just cruel. (PS---I don't count ethnic or foreign names here, as they are the mainstream within their own communities and/or countries. I am only talking about people who take normal names and totally f**k up the spelling, or who give their kids really strange names that have zero cultural, national, or even sentimental significance to their heritage or family.)
This always makes me think of the substitute teacher taking attendance skit. So funny.
Driving your kids 200m to school.
Yes right, for safety reasons. And then driving like crazy and endangering other kids on the school ground...Where I work as a teacher this becomes more and more of a problem. Kids aged 13-16 with only short commutes, lots of bike lanes and great public transport. Wouldn't be necessary. I do understand it depends on the schools location and country. But here this just isn't necessary...and driving together with bikes or tag along in the bus would be good from a social aspect as well...
I'm annoyed that my 10-year-old kid has to take the bus. We live less than a mile from the school, but the only path is basically the ditch on the side of 4 lane highway. If the city would just build a sidewalk with safety barriers, a whole neighborhood of kids could walk to school instead of ride the bus.
This really bothers me. I live on the corner by a school across the street and all the parents on my block drive their kids and drop them off. They could literally stand on their front steps and watch the kid for 45 seconds and see them arrive. Instead, they spend 10 minutes waiting in line for drop off. They then complain about the pickup line in the afternoon blocking their driveway.
I lived 11 houses from school but would love it when I'd get picked up - it could mean a trip to get ice cream, that it was raining or that I had a dentist appointment.
I think they were referring to those parents that take and pick up their kids EVERY.SINGLE.DAY when the kids could easily and safely walk or ride their bike. It's reasonable to expect them to drop off and/or pick up in inclement weather, an appointment, or a special treat. At least that was my take on it.
Load More Replies...I live in the countryside. There is about 4km to my daughter's school. And I cannot express how grateful I am that there is a bus coming by every morning that picks up my kid and drives her to school. It is really not safe for kids to be on the roads here because cars drive like crazy. But it is so super great that there is this public bus coming around and getting my kid to school and I won't have to worry about driving her myself. I do, however, have to drive the two little kids to their daycare/kindergarten. It is 8.5km away and there's no bus going there from my home.
Kids are too fat and lazy now and so are their parents. I live in a cul-de-sac where parents will wait for their kids getting off the school bus in their car, idling their engines. All the houses are within a quarter of a mile. Infuriates me every time I see it.
I live in an apartment complex. The courts are about one city block apart. The bus stops at EVERY F'king corner. I am surprised that it doesn't go door to door.
Load More Replies...What ever became of school busses? My school district was a large one in the suburbs and there were a fleet of busses for us. By the time I was 12, both of my parents worked full time and there's no way they could've taken me to school. In high school there were 3 ways to get to school: taking the bus, walking/biking, and if you were lucky enough, drive your own car (I was very envious of those kids, but there weren't many who could!) Granted, this was back in the 70's and I'm only asking because I don't have children.
My town doesn’t have public transport. Not walkable either. What’s your suggestion then?
Load More Replies...My grade school was 100m away from my house, no bus came to my house and the road i had to cross to actually get to school was full of some really crazy drivers... ofc when i got older id walk to school but from 1st to 3rd grade i was drivin to school :3
However, Jordan has concerns. "It’s not all roses. There is a ton of misinformation out there, and just because another parent is talking about something, it doesn’t mean they’re knowledgeable."
And this thread proves it.
I’m gonna go in a little bit of a different direction: parents not watching their own behavior when it comes to screen time, frustration tolerance, discipline, etc.
You’ve got to dig deep and figure out how to role model the behaviors you want your kids to do. If you are on your phone 24/7 and throw a fit every time the slightest thing inconveniences you you aren’t gonna have a good time with your kids doing anything different.
So very true. A parent I knew was literally having a meltdown when their son accidentally hit them in the face with a ball while they were playing, and then would get upset with the son when he had a meltdown over something. I mean, you were modeling that behavior, so why are you surprised to see it?
I disagree with ALL trends. Parenting is not supposed to be trendy. Figure out what works for you and your family and do that, but don’t expect everyone else to do the same.
I agree. With three of my own (and sometimes up to 6 in the house) each child is SOO different.
Taking your kids to a restaurant and putting screens in their hands. How are kids going to learn how to behave in polite society if you don’t train them how to behave in social situations?
When my son was little before smart phones. They had placemats for kids to do puzzles etc. Bring that back.
A lot of places do. Bills and Pizza Express in the UK have these, they give crayons as well. 👍
Load More Replies...We bring our kids' activities that we play with them at the table. A device is an absolute last resort. Sometimes, a mama just wants to enjoy the meal too.
So many kids have no table manners and can't eat with cutleries. How sad.
Depends how long the meal last. I have ADHD and when I was a kid any meal longer than an hour would make me crazy bored, especially if there are only grown-ups talking about adults things. My mother used to gave me her phone with games on it so I wouldn't be dying of boredom.
We were at a 60th birthday not long ago in a large function room. The kids were at one table with board games and card games and were super well behaved.
The lack of discipline and manners taught to the kids. I get soft parenting, I'm on board with no hitting and all of the abuse but kids still need to learn boundaries about what they could and couldn't do.
Went to a friend's plc and her 4 yr old starts screaming at me, freaking tf out, I'm like what's going on? My friend says " she wants your scarf. She won't stop screaming until you give it to her." Sorry..what??
When I gently tell off my friends children if they do something unacceptable they look like they are close to breaking down. Pathetic!
Discipline is not equal to abuse. You can talk to them, and a lot of other things to help them live in society!
Exactly. There's a difference between gentle parenting and just letting your kid walk all over you.
Being overweight and allowing your children to follow the same path of obesity.
(Yes I get sometimes it's genetics, but genetics is not why appx 1/3 of Americans are obese and why the rest of the world isnt).
A lot of 'the rest of the world' is just as bad. This is not an American things at all.
In 1960 the US had an obesity rate of 13.4%, slightly below the global rate of 13.6.% Today, the U.S has an obesity rate of 44%, while the global rate has decreased slightly to 13.4%. Yes there are other places that have obesity problems, some with even higher statistical rates, but those are within much smaller populations. The difference is that most of the rest of the world is trying to sell the idea of "healthy at any size" while pretending the most significant problem of obesity is that it's viewed negatively.
Load More Replies...I'm from Switzerland. Teacher. And here too more and more kids are getting really overweight. Less sports (of course some still do..) and just take away junkfood for lunch, since the parents are both working and nobody cooks a proper meal. Also: Almost none use sunglasses, caps or sunscreen. I see health problems coming...
75% of Americans are overweight, 44% of adults and 22% of children are obese, 21% are morbidly obese (a 3.5-4.2x increase since 1970) , and the rate of type 2 diabetes has increased 95x in the past 50 years (with another 140 million people classified as pre-diabetic). Genetics, and underlying medical causes account for a very, very small share of cases.
Genetics most definitely ís why people get obese. Don't think you would be any different with the same combo. Another cause is the availability of food, massive, massive societal stresses exacerbating everything and out lack of necessary physical movement. The US was just the first to hit that wall. The rest is following suit. And don't feel better, we all facilitate this. And the first thing we need to drop is the idea that it is somehow a choice close to half a country's population to be obese and feel judged and dehabilitated all day long. Quit it. Just quit it.
The sad beige mom trend. If you want to make the rest of your home sad and beige, that's up to you. But my God! Please let your child's nursery have some colour for their own development and well-being.
Part of this problem is that most children's toys/furniture etc. are available in either pink or blue or beige. And if parents don't want to strictly color-code their children, they have to go with beige. Which is really sad.
A lot of the toys are available in rainbow colors. Which doesn't suit a typical adult aesthetic, but it's for children.
Load More Replies...Nurseries have mainly beige and wooden stuff because all Early years research behind this suggests that bright colours hamper their creativity and imagination. There’s a s**t load been written about it. I think the average parent who has adopted this in their home is doing it as a fashion trend though.
Could you cite your sources? I have a degree in Psychology and everything I've read says that colors stimulate a child's creativity. There may be children who are over-stimulated by bright colors or who prefer beiges and browns, but color doesn't hamper most children's creativity and imagination.
Load More Replies...My dad did a brightly colored mural of a circus on the walls of my little sister's bedroom. (Of course we had to leave it when we moved. I wonder if it's still there.)
hmm... no. They can have colorful toys. I do not want to live in a rubbish dump.
Have to have color, don’t like blah! Had I had a child their room probably would of looked like a box of crayons exploded in it
On a personal level I struggle with beige, it is definitely a color I would'nt want to have around me all day. Weirdly I read an article somewhere in German Media, which stated that this "beige" trend is being pushed by modern day Nazis and Alt-Rights to suck young people into white supremacy and such stuff. Allegedly it's also a very elitist trend. I wonder, if anyone else has heard of this. I barely find info about it and would like to know more about it.
We have always had white or off-white walls (not beige, I'd say) but we have a lot of pictures on the wall so we need neutral colors so we can hang anything we want. As to your question: Never heard about that. Do you remember the source? I'd be interested in reading about it, too.
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Child vlogging, its a bit weird tbh and I feel like things are gonna go to s**t for the parents when the kids become adults.
I read an interview recently about a child who's mum was a mummy vlogger. She had no sense of what was reality and what was the bubble her mum created. It was essentially child abuse.
Sounds interesting, do you remember the name so I can google the interview?
Load More Replies...Plus they share everything about their kids' personal lives, to the point it's dangerous. The city they live in, the places they go, where their school is. A lot of them film doctor's appointments and medical procedures as well. Like their kid is sick in the hospital and the first thing they do is whip out their phone and record it. Disgusting!
The only kid adjacent content I can cope with is a reaction channel I like usually have their 6 year old in videos when they unbox things that are sent to them or with trying stuff. But that's cos she's often sent things for her, she can and does disappear mid video, clearly not being forced to be on camera.
Weird orthorexic parents who make their entire personality their kids' hundreds of allergies . Gluten free, dairy free, nut free , meat free . EVERYTHING FREE! I’m sorry, I do not believe them .
I have celiac disease, I cannot understand why anyone would go gluten-free if they didn't have to. I miss nice bread so much!
I'm allergic to dairy, and hear you loud and clear, miss real cheese so much. Mostly miss the ease of eating out with family or friends, or buying food while travelling...and having to ask questions about all the things people don't think have dairy in them but do...bread, gravy, wine...and the list goes on
Load More Replies...We all know people who developed temporary allergies that went away when they got tired of them. This makes it harder for people that have real allergies because they are less likely to be believed.
We don't all know people like that, but I believe you that they exist.
Load More Replies...Shocking how many people have true, life threatening allergies but don't carry epi pens.
I will say, not everyone with food allergies get anaphylaxis. My son has several food allergies that causes white blood cells to build up in his esophagus if he doesn’t take allergy pills every day. It can also make him throw up. It took years for us to find out because he had no outward signs. This includes an allergy to legume which includes peanuts.
Load More Replies...Way too many parents diagnose their kids from an article on facebook instead of taking the kid to the doctor. 1 in 133 people have celiac disease and its very serious. Every mom who insists their kid is gluten-free just because the kid doesn't like rye bread is a "crying wolf" situation that puts the kid who actually has celiac disease at risk because people won't respect their needs. Spend one hour taking your kid to the doctor to get an allergy test so your own neurosis don't ruin your kid's life. Find out so the kid can either start eating cookies again or you know for sure its something they need to avoid.
Do not believe in allergies? Sorry but they exist. Maybe some parents go overboard trying to be cautious about what their child can eat if they already have an identified allergy, but it’s their child so they are obviously aware of the child’s allergies and have to constantly worry about them getting sick. I have a friend who, even as an adult, is still discovering allergies she has and it’s an actual battle of life and death for her because a single allergy sends her into anaphylactic shock which is fatal if she’s not taken to the ER immediately (after using an epi-pen). Her parents still worry about the next thing that could send her to the ER. These parents have to constantly worry about their child getting sick which is both an emotional and financial burden for them having to watch their child suffer. So I guess it’s better safe than sorry for such parents.
Seen too many parents starving their kids because they're forcing their own fad diets on them. This just ends up leading to the kids having allergies on top of other problems.
Load More Replies...When I was growing up, I don’t remember kids being allergic to stuff, most of the kids I grew up with their parents were farmers, so you ate wheat, you ate corn, you had dairy from the cow , peanut butter sandwich’s were a staple and I don’t remember ever sitting down to a meal where you didn’t have meat.
My immune system is so robust i go through colds and the flu in like 3 days, i have wounds/ injuries heal much faster then typical as well. I also walked barefoot everywhere, swam in dirty lakes, climbed trees and sometimes fell off them. I'm a month from 40 and I'm solid
Not really. Germaphobia and Antibacterial everything, putting children in protective bubbles so they're never exposed to anything (meaning once they eventually are their body has no means of coping with it) and fewer and fewer children being imparted with natural immunities from breastmilk are the more precipitating factors. Yes, you can develop allergies due to repeated over exposure, but that tends to happen much later in life.
Load More Replies...Lawnmower parenting. Not only do they hover over their kids, they mow down anyone who does something they don't like. They're the "you can't wear that shirt where my kids might see it" and "you'd better allow my child into this 21+ establishment but not show them anything inappropriate" type.
Lawnmower? Thats new! Makes a lot of sense sadly :/ poor kids
I really enjoy defying those sorts of parents. On a plane, I was with a mum and daughter. Kid was maybe 9. The mum told me and the rows in front and behind us, "she really hates it when people pass gas, so you'll need to go to the bathroom to do that." Normally, I make an effort to do that privately. But the entitlement annoyed me so much I ordered beer and hummus. I noticed the dude in front of me was stinking it up too. I bought him a beer.
Any parent who tries to force the world to accommodate their child is setting them up for huge failures and frustration as adults.
I used to work with developmentally disabled adults. It was so sad when we got someone new from a family who never set boundaries, because with most developmental disabilities it's harder to learn as an adult. Things get ingrained very strongly in childhood. And when you go from indulgent parents to living in a staffed situation where there are boundaries, it's trauma. They don't understand WHY staff won't do like their parents did, because they never learned to consider others. Their lives are so much harder. They have more trouble making natural friends (community supports), staff don't want to work with them and they get lower quality care, they don't get as much community interaction... it is just so sad all around. I'm not saying teach your special needs kid to be docile and unquestioningly obedient. No, let them protect themselves and understand autonomy. But teach them how to respect boundaries and understand that the world isn't going to give them everything they want.
Load More Replies...Wait a minute while I light another cigarette and explain that to me again.
I like these people because it's fun to tell Mom to f*** off and see how shocked she is that someone isn't taking her c**p or care about her kid.
Those “boy moms” that are grossly obsessed with their baby or toddler boys. Ew, f**k out of here with that emotional incest s**t.
Have the intent to raise the next generation of strong, protective, smart, successful, respectful men (basically the men they want to date).There's a difference between a healthy parenting goal and making it someone's entire personality, and the boy moms in reference don't know the difference.
Load More Replies...I think this is one of those things that started as one thing and has gotten twisted over time to me a "boy mom" or a "girl dad" is a person who has a lot of kids of the opposit gender, and only the other gender, not just one and you do things not normal to your gender with them, that's just being a parent. But like my cousin who has 5 boys is a "boy mom" not some woman who has one son and plays trucks with them.
How is this a trend? Also, those daughter-daddy or daughter-mom combos are the same! How is it different when moms are obsessed with their girls? Or dads are obsessed with their princesses? Weird. I also dont think a married grown woman should be obsessed with their daddies. Let's not think that's cute. Ewwww. Can't stand mom-daughter evil combos! No thank you -not a mom
Not (sensibly) challenging their comfort zone. How are they supposed to grow self-confidence when they're never challenged?
Can i add? Vice versa challenging it too much and making the kid uncomfortable or not accepting their no because 'their a kid'... kids need to learn to step out of their comfort zone yes but they also need to learn that if they are in an uncomfortable situation they are free to decline.
As a kid literally anyone and i mean anyone who met me always said "you're so smart, you can literally do anything" my entire life. What i want to do is to live comfortably and be happy. I would get such grief growing up for just wanting to be me that i never could. I've got ptsd, adhd, anxiety, depression.. though tbf i never was challenged. "No kid left behind" passed in Florida and surprise my growth was stunted. I was lightyears ahead of the other kids never did homework as i didn't need it, but at the time i was bored constantly so that was my reason then. And every test i ever took was 100% but guess where that no child left behind thing really hit me. Homework. If I'm not doing busy work I'm obviously stupid, ignore every time I'm quizzed about the subject and have retained all information correctly.
That's one way to create an adult with severe anxiety. Confidence isn't just learned by daily affirmations, it's learned though overcoming challenges
Helicopter parenting, or whatever you wanna call it.
As a child that was sheltered and despite my wishes, parents would always intervene and I became way to reliant on that.
Wasn’t until my mid-20s that someone helped me realized what was going on and I had to relearn how to live basically.
Sure my parents did what they thought was best, it ended up really screwing me later in life and I’m still in the process of figuring out what it means to be independent and how to fight for myself.
Helicopter parenting was an overcompensation for many Gen-X parents with their millennial kids. For many of us, our parents just didn't care or have the time as the two income family evolved. They called us latchkey kids because we'd lock to door behind us going to school and unlock it coming home and rarely see or talk to our parents. We were forced to be adults at 10. We remembered sitting on the front porch with a friend with a broken bone or holding a cloth over a wound that needed stitches for their parents to come home at 8pm so they could be taken to the ER (I did this multiple times). There were no cell phones and calling dad at the factory could get him fired. Our trauma influenced us to make sure that didn't happen to our kids and we took it too far. I'm sorry.
The Easter "baskets" kids are now getting. It is like a mini Christmas. Hell-I've seen kids that actually get a lot less for Christmas. It's is just disgusting how material we are and in turn making our children. Especially in a world where many people can't even buy sufficient groceries for their family.
I was so surprised when I found out a friend got big, Xmas and birthday type gifts for Easter or valentines Day. We were in a lower income than her family, but I liked my treats so much better than the thing she got. My mom is very thoughtful when putting that stuff together.
I've seen someone in my year once geta valentine's day toy from her parents, and when I hear about people getting gifts for children's day, I just wonder how spoilt they really are.
The amount of surveillance/tracking apps and more that parents have on their kids. It gets really sad when they hit college and they are looking for ways to detach from their parents knowing what/where they are up to 24/7.
nah in my country it's better to track for safety. My whole family is on findfriends.
Only my mom has my location and it drives me nuts bc I can’t go anywhere without her knowing. But it’s a good safety measure.
With my family, we just arrange to meet up at a specific location and time, and contact the others if they don't turn up
Letting them harass and even assault strangers to let them "get it out of their system". Mam, your toddler is like US healthcare, the system is f****d.
Either teach your children that it's not OK to assault other people, or other people will do that for you
- Increasingly separating children's and adult spaces/activities (even in your family life) because you're scared the children will misbehave and/or be bored. - everything becoming somehow more, not less gendered. All the boys and girls in my vicinity are either in blue/green/grey or red/pink/purple colour pallets. I wouldn't put a boy in a pink tutu and go "haha gotcha" when people think he's a girl but I don't get why a baby boy couldn't wear brightly coloured outfits and needs to dress like a German mechanical engineering student.
For me, having a "children's table" at meals during family gatherings is a missed opportunity. I learned a lot about adults and being an adult by watching them at family dinners.
I so agree! Plus talking about the adults amongst our young peers. We learned together.
Load More Replies...Then there are the headbands that moms insist on putting on bald baby girls because they can't have people mistaking Lisa for a little boy.
Hey! That struck a chord with me. Born in the 70's mom kept my hair cut super short. I was always being mistaken for a boy-- in the church bathroom old ladies would "shoo" me out!! My name is Lisa. LOL!! I'm now a grown woman and I get to wear my hair any which way I please. I thought it was funny....;-)
Load More Replies...If they mistake your gender, or your childs gender, politely correct them but don't be too forceful, and only if necessary
Imho using chores as a punishment is a great formula to raise a slob. Chores should be portrayed as something you do to maintain a nice living space, help your stuff last longer and overall make things easier.
We (me and my brother) did them without pocket money, we didn't get any. We did chores because you have to, and you have to learn how to do things before you don't have others to help you
We were expected to do chores. We didn't get a allowance for doing them.
Load More Replies...Having kids because your religion tells you to.
Or because society tells you to just because you have a uterus. I'm in my 40's with no kids. I don't hate kids, I've just never had the desire to have any. Do you know how many times in my life I've been told that was the wrong decision? I've lost count. Some of the reasons people thought it was the wrong decision were ridiculous too. Just off the top of my head.....you'll have no one to take care of you when you're old.....you'll be lonely......you're contributing to the population decline. With less paying into the federal pension, none of us will be able to retire. In my opinion, none of those are reasons to have children! Those are selfish reasons (despite me being called selfish on multiple occasions for not having them). Sorry for the rant. People being "talked into" or "bullied" or whatever into having kids is kind of a touchy issue for me lol.
Not letting your children be inconvenienced or uncomfortable. Over protection maybe. This statement excludes any form of abuse. It's sad I have to note that, but it's the internet. Kids need to learn how to manage life not revolving around them. And they can't learn what they are not exposed to.
It’s one thing to shield your kids from stuff within your control, but expecting other people to stoop down to your kid’s levels so they don’t get hurt is borderline insane. People should know to not sacrifice their own child’s rights just to facilitate the needs of someone else’s child who thinks the world revolves around them. Speaking from experience of receiving this kind of messed up treatment. I had cousins who expected everything to work as they wanted and my parents let them and their parents abuse my rights for their happiness. From them eating decorations off my birthday cake at my birthday parties before the party even started to asking me to give a toy/instrument to them because they’re crying for it even though it’s not their turn with it, life growing up was so unfair and disappointing.
Lack of discipline, and treating kids like little adults, allowing them to make grown up decisions. kids appreciate being given clear boundaries, they also appreciate that an adult is in charge, so that they don't have to be.
Teaching your kids about failure by beating them at something and then constantly teasing them for it.
There was a video that made the rounds on Reddit last week of a little girl crying out of frustration because her dad had been constantly whooping her at a video game. Every single thread was full of people saying “dad’s teaching her right!” But I heavily disagree. Beating your children at a game and then teaching them to take the L is one thing; but to get up, walk around your clearly distressed daughter who had been crying before the game was even over, and then striking a victory pose while you look her directly in the eyes is a horrible way of teaching that lesson (that’s what dad did in the video); and to the surprise of no one, the girl tries to kick her dad, which he then starts rubbing it in her face more when she misses.
As someone who was parented that way, it does none of the b******t parents think it does to the kid’s development. All it does is make them resent you and it shows them that being a sore winner is the right way, when a sore winner is far worse than a sore loser.
Life does a very fine job about teaching what failure is like and needs no support system.
Using their child to promote their own political objectives.
Ugh, I agree this is really gross; I cringe so hard when I see parents do this -_-
Not letting kids wander about the world. Yes, the world is fraught with dangers but if your kids has never walked around by themselves, how will they ever learn to navigate their own lives independently? .
Wow. So then you have a 17-year-old, about to go off to college/university or get their first job, who is thrown out into adult life with no idea how to function independently? There will always be dangers in the world, and it is the job of parents to prepare their kids, not just protect them. Also, in many parts of the world, sheltering children to the age of 17 is just not a social or economic possibility, only the extremely wealthy would even have such an option. It is so much better to teach children the knowledge and skills to keep themselves safe and make good decisions, and to gradually expand their boundaries as they learn and grow.
Load More Replies...If it's from Korea, it's the trend of putting their kids through private education to the point where they have no life beyond school and education. If they manage to get into uni/college, they have no idea what they are doing with their lives. Their parents have controlled every aspect of their lives since birth, so when they are an adult, they don't know how to make any life decisions on their own. Life goal? Career goal? It's whatever their parents would want them to do. To Korean parents, kids are an extension of themselves. (I'm sure other cultures can relate to this phenomenon.).
I’m not Korean but this is exactly my life as well. Went off to university for a degree my parents wanted and now I’m a graduate struggling to fit into the challenging world of employment in a field that I don’t feel comfortable in.
Education is the only thing that matters. Out of school they have no idea how to cook or do laundry.
Sleep training by letting them cry when they are so young.
It seems like there can't be a happy medium for many people. Either they are letting the kids run the household, or they are so afraid of being 'soft' that they borderline abuse their kids to make them 'strong'.
I can't stand putting kids in sports/activities these days and pushing them to become athletes. It is one thing to expose your kid, they enjoy it, and you let them keep doing it. It is a completely different thing when you see kids in elementary school playing in every league their parent can enroll them in and doing training camps. If they are really good and you give them the tools, ok, but if your kid is mediocre at best then you are setting them up for disappointment.
My son has little interest in sports at the moment, kicking a football in the garden/park, he likes that but playing in a football team: not going to happen. But this can be applied to any activity. Try something out a few times and see if they like it and decide if it is worth investing time and money into.
As a parent I find it frustrating how intense kids sports can be. There are few opportunities to just play for fun. It seems if a kid doesn't start training by 5 or 6 they just can't even try a new sport. And when a kid is on a team it consumes their whole life for the entirety of the season.
Ironically, my son had a good friend who's parents spent every dime and spare moment on their boy's baseball. He was good, but by the time he was getting recruited for college baseball, he was burned out.
I don't like the idea of letting them spend their life staring at screens. Instead, I tell them to go out and find some neighbourhood kids to get into trouble, and if any adult has a problem with it, they should keep their distance, and tell them to go talk to me.
When I was young the complaint was kids spending too much time staring at books.
Blaming non-parenting on covid.
The absolute obsession with counting "screentime" and keeping children away from anything technologic -- even here, under this post, there are numerous people being against teaching children technology from a young age. I was born in the 1970s, and even I can see that's the direction the future is taking. By not allowing children to access smartphones and/or tablets until they are school-age (or even older!?) is not doing them any favors. Teaching proper etiquette and about the dangers is the way, not abstinence. It's really ridiculous when it starts to look like American sex ed, where they think teens won't have sex if they're not told about it. I'm 100% in favor of teaching young children how to use the things, and what to expect. Not just pretending they don't exist.
The one side is to show and teach them how they can use digital devices and how they should behave when online. The other side is children who get access to smartphones and tablets like a pacifier to calm them down. They are just scrolling around and see everything randomly, teaching themselves how to use the internet.
I was born in 1983. I was using a computer when i was under the age of 2, had an internet connection from the time i was about 5, and writing HTML at 11, doing CAD, computer animation and digital art at 12, and taught myself visual fox pro, C++, SQL at 19 and then spent nearly a decade as software developer. But...i also didn't spend every waking moment of my life with a screen in front of my face. I socialized with people face to face, i went out and did dumb kid stuff, gained experience and life skills that extended beyond hitting buttons and rubbing screens. I was taught to see them as tools, people today see them as an extension of themselves and grown a*s adults can't handle the responsibility of using them properly, how does anyone think it's going to end giving them to a toddler
This difference is you used it as a tool, people today use it as social interaction, its an entirely different beast.
Load More Replies...How do you educate a child how to do something responsibly, when adults can't? In 2023 the average person checked their phone 144 times per day, which was a 58% decrease from 2022. Half the U.S population considers themselves to have a phone addiction. Again, adults with jobs, families and responsibilities. Yet I've seen 7 year olds sent off to school with a smartphone "just in case" after having had a tablet in their hands since before they could talk. The internet has given humanity the collective knowledge and wisdom of all of human history, literally at their fingertips....yet half the U.S thinks an election was rigged, a staggering number, nearly 30 years on continue to believe that vaccines cause autism, Racism is being reframed as empowerment, biology has become meaningless, obesity is mainly an optics problem, and absolutely no one is willing to take responsibility for anything. They acknowledge problems in the world and proclaim "someone (not it!) should really check that out
Load More Replies..."If the child does not understand after several repetitions, then you can hit." This is just a terrible trend, because in the process of learning about the world, the child does everything that seems unusual and interesting to him, and when parents, instead of teaching why something cannot be done, beat the child, then he eventually loses confidence in them and begins to fear for his mistakes in front of them in the future.
I'm pretty sure the "trend" is in the other direction. A hundred or two years ago beating children in an attempt to make them learn was so normal that expressions like "spare the rod and spoil the child" were used to scorn parents who did not beat their children. These days it's a very small (but still too large) proportion of parents who still do this.
I can't believe this one isn't much higher. There is always at least one person here on BP who will say that an occasional smack to a child is fine. They'll usually try to rephrase it by saying "spanking" or "swatting" and avoid calling it what it is: hitting. You are hitting a small, innocent and defenseless child. If you cannot discipline a child without hitting them, then you are a lazy parent, a parent with anger issues, or an ignorant parent.
Raising children as "genderless".
why? What specifically gendered thing should we teach them? Fixing cars? Making sandwiches? Mowing the lawn? What is a skill that we should NOT teach someone because of their gender? I do not think there's any need to gender upbringing at all, until the kid gets to teens and needs to know about things like pregnancy risk.
I like rhw vive but it'll just make school and life a bit more difficult. Teach them the basics of gender and that its ok to be who u r but don't force them to be gender neutral
Why is this even a thing?? Gender stereotypes are s****y but you can raise your kid as the gender the were assigned with at birth without being it being hurtful. By all means, though, if your kid wants to experiment with different pronouns and stuff that fine, but it’s downright confusing if you’re raising them with not gender identity.
Or just realize gender is a concept that we can do without. We can teach sex (male bodies behave one way, female bodies behave another) but dont need to stereotype with gender (boys shouldnt play with dolls). forget that
A lot of kids eating in KFC etc after school. Or getting a Donut. Rather then have a home cooked meal. It seems to be something i have noticed a lot off.
I've also seen far too many people in my year without breakfast, it's just wrong, you need breakfast to help work in the morning
Having them dress up like the fleet is coming in.
That's how a boomer says "I think that little girl is dressed provocatively"
Load More Replies...My cousin just did not seem to care about it, I think they just straight up told him he couldn't go to kindergarten w/ a pull-up, and he was like 'ok'. They bought him a toy for no more accidents and that was it.
Load More Replies...Constantly yelling at your kids. My s****y neighbour screams at her kids all the time, tells them all sorts of horrible things. Recently tho I heard the 14 year old scream at his mum "your a f*****g horrible mother" I was actually kinda proud of him
Religion: It is like a d!ck. It is ok to have one and it is ok to be proud of it. But don't air it in public, and don't force it onto children. I get it, you may have been brainwashed into believing in fairytales as a grown up, but please don't pass that on to the next generation. Teaching children good values and how to behave properly, can be done without threatening them with torture, or adding some kind of Devine authority into the mix. Religion does not have the patent when it comes to knowing how to behave, it has just highjacked some good ideas that is helpful when it comes to how to act around people (this is evident from the fact that some of the worst a$$holes can be "faithfull" Christians, and that there are good people amoung the atheists too). Let your children make up their own minds when it comes to how they see the world, instead of installing your own default software in them and letting the virus spread.
"...instead of installing your own default software in them and letting the virus spread." LOL! 🤣 I was initially raised Catholic, but saw some of the contradictions as a young child. This led my mother to question some of her religion's practices. Neither of us feels there's any good reason to be 'instructed' by other people in their viewpoints of a so-called faith, which is exactly what it's been for millennia. My now-wife respects this and accepts it, and I merely try to be a good contributor to society without the shaming and ostracizing that 'organized' religion keeps trying to force upon all of humankind in the name of their 'god' or 'belief' systems. Religion is ultimately a poison used to shame and coerce others, typically to hateful and divisive ends. The many documented versions of the Bible are an excellent example of how imperfect and bias-driven so-called organized religion ultimately is.
Load More Replies...This is so weird, I wrote about this under the above post about wholesome news, I keep getting a glitch on listicles lately. The first item always reads (Function) and the rest of them cut off after 10ish words. Anyone else having this?? Tech pandas, any advice?
I don't remember what exactly the doctors wanted to medicate him for. I think it was more for issues related to his condition, not the aspergers itself.
My cousin just did not seem to care about it, I think they just straight up told him he couldn't go to kindergarten w/ a pull-up, and he was like 'ok'. They bought him a toy for no more accidents and that was it.
Load More Replies...Constantly yelling at your kids. My s****y neighbour screams at her kids all the time, tells them all sorts of horrible things. Recently tho I heard the 14 year old scream at his mum "your a f*****g horrible mother" I was actually kinda proud of him
Religion: It is like a d!ck. It is ok to have one and it is ok to be proud of it. But don't air it in public, and don't force it onto children. I get it, you may have been brainwashed into believing in fairytales as a grown up, but please don't pass that on to the next generation. Teaching children good values and how to behave properly, can be done without threatening them with torture, or adding some kind of Devine authority into the mix. Religion does not have the patent when it comes to knowing how to behave, it has just highjacked some good ideas that is helpful when it comes to how to act around people (this is evident from the fact that some of the worst a$$holes can be "faithfull" Christians, and that there are good people amoung the atheists too). Let your children make up their own minds when it comes to how they see the world, instead of installing your own default software in them and letting the virus spread.
"...instead of installing your own default software in them and letting the virus spread." LOL! 🤣 I was initially raised Catholic, but saw some of the contradictions as a young child. This led my mother to question some of her religion's practices. Neither of us feels there's any good reason to be 'instructed' by other people in their viewpoints of a so-called faith, which is exactly what it's been for millennia. My now-wife respects this and accepts it, and I merely try to be a good contributor to society without the shaming and ostracizing that 'organized' religion keeps trying to force upon all of humankind in the name of their 'god' or 'belief' systems. Religion is ultimately a poison used to shame and coerce others, typically to hateful and divisive ends. The many documented versions of the Bible are an excellent example of how imperfect and bias-driven so-called organized religion ultimately is.
Load More Replies...This is so weird, I wrote about this under the above post about wholesome news, I keep getting a glitch on listicles lately. The first item always reads (Function) and the rest of them cut off after 10ish words. Anyone else having this?? Tech pandas, any advice?
I don't remember what exactly the doctors wanted to medicate him for. I think it was more for issues related to his condition, not the aspergers itself.
