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Anti-Vaxxer Tries To Prove Vaccines Cause Autism, Someone Finds A Genius Way To Show They’re Wrong
It’s been a raging debate for what seems like forever already, yet the anti-vaccination topic seems to have more and more people confused. Despite the lack of substantial research proving the dangers of vaccines as the people on those groups would like us to believe, anti-vaxxers try their best to come up with arguments to prove everyone otherwise.
It is not rare that the discussion about vaccines quickly brings up the topic of autism, despite the myth being repeatedly debunked and with zero cases of vaccines and autism linked cases existing. This internet user decided to use the correlation of the number of vaccines given to the U.S. children and the number of autism diagnoses as proof of their argument. However, people quickly responded to the original post by providing their own ‘arguments’ on the history of vaccines, in a hilarious way of course. Scroll down to read the full post and the healthy pro-vaccination discussion that followed, below and tells us what you think!
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Lazy Panda 7 years ago
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: even if vaccines did cause autism it takes a special kind of evil to hate autistic children so much that you’d prefer to have a dead or suffering child
diane a 7 years ago
it is just utter common sense to vaccinate. Herd immunity only works so long as the entire herd are immune. The huge increase in contagious childhood diseases(that once were eradicated) over the last few years is entirely down to antivaxers thinking they are special
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Chris Jones 7 years ago
Here we go again! Anti-vaxxers are utter morons and there is no valid argument. Lies, damned lies and statistics - you can make them show anything as the responses prove. Autism not caused by vaccines. End of.
diane a 7 years ago (edited)
the anti vaxxers even make an issue of it - Declaring on social media that they refuse to have their little darling immune to killer contagious childhood diseases - and the parents themselves would have been immunised as children
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Magdalina777 7 years ago
Haha, nice graphs. I remember when I was studying probability theory/statistics at uni our teacher told us a fun story - at one point the scientists in one of the European countries decided to do certain research(can't remember the details unfortunately). And...they found that apparently the number of babies being born correlates pretty closely with the number of storks in the area. So...babies are brought by storks after all?! But after more research they found out it's in fact the other way round - the country had recently passed a law that made it easier for newly wed couples to get their own houses(lots of new houses built just for that too). So all of a sudden a whole lot of young couples were getting their own places - and, as a consequence, a lot of them also felt comfortable getting babies=>more babies. But at the same time all of those nice new houses in the country were super convenient for stork nests=>more storks ;) Gotta be careful with your statistics.
Wil Vanderheijden 7 years ago
There's just one way to stop this Anti-vax movement and that's legislation. There could be laws that prohibit day care centers to take in children that aren't vaccinated, laws to force parents to have their children vaccinated. If the Child protection services are so swift on interfering when a "free range kid" is reported, why can't they take children away from parents who refuse to have them vaccinated?
veryvenasaur 1 year ago
Just to play devils advocate what about people who can't safely be vaccinated I have a friend who's sister received a vaccine and ended up hospitalized from a rare reaction so the parents decided not to try to continue vaccinating the child since the reaction is often fatal. Obviously this is very rare and I've only ever met one person who even knows someone who that's happened to but would those people be allowed to not be vaccinated or would they be forced to repetitively risk their lives.
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Leo Domitrix 7 years ago
Other possible correlative if not causative factors: Age of people when they have kids (aging parents are being studied as a factor, btw, for real, no joke); cumulative effect of environmental toxins on parental DNA (e.g., exposure to lead/lead gas exhaust, pesticides, etc., causing glitches in transcription); and this can go on for-freaking-ever. But it's not vaccines, or what is in vaccines. THOSE SAVE LIVES. People in other countries find anti-vaxxing inhumane and child endangerment. I agree.
Carol Emory 7 years ago
My criminology professor pointed out that anything can be correlated if the numbers are right. As in, ice cream consumption increases during summer months....so does burglaries. So therefore, ice cream must cause people to want to commit burglaries. Actual..the factor in play is warm weather. People eat more ice cream during hot summer months and burglars are more likely to break into homes during the summer months when people are on vacation and when it's not so freezing cold outside.
Aunt Messy 7 years ago
My criminology professor used this example: 99% of spouses who are beaten, therefore 99% of men beat their wives. ...///... Yes. That is as stupid as it sounds.
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Amina Hays 7 years ago
I have autism and anti-vaxxers are not only incorrect, they're upsetting. They're essentially saying they'd prefer their child to die of a completely avoidable disease than have autism. I know what my mum prefers and it isn't having a dead kid.
Alex Bailey 7 years ago
Anti-vaxxers seriously don't really think their child runs the risk of becoming sick or dead if they don't vaccinate, they think it's a tiny, almost impossible risk. People are good at convincing themselves of what they want to believe. People are scared of autism, not because they hate autistic children, but because they are scared that they won't be able to cope with a disabled child. It's fear about their own abilities. At the heart of it they fear they won't be any good at parenting a child they think might be different. It is all about them, not their children.
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Cat Kittey 7 years ago
VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM!!! Vaccines are good things! They help your body build antibodies to fight off the actual virus when you become exposed to it. Without vaccines, your body is defenseless against these horrific diseases and you could die from them. Get vaccinated! The binding agents, however, could be to blame. Many binding agents include various forms of mercury. Many people are VERY hypersensitive to mercury. I know from personal experience. I almost went blind from the mercury that was used in contact solutions many years ago. Oh, No!!! What should I do? Pharmaceutical companies do make vaccines without mercury compounds. Ask your doctor for vaccines that do not contain mercury compounds.
Craig Silberman 7 years ago
Autism rates have NOT been rising. What has been rising is diagnoses of autism, which correlate inversely to the decline in diagnoses of other mental handicaps. People who would have been called "r******d" thirty or forty years ago are being diagnosed as autistic today. And the rate of the two is level, not rising.
Pancho Zapata 7 years ago
allow the herd mentality to test the vaccines and it would be wise to accept them only after being proven successful. one should know that all vaccines applied in the 50,s and sixties have been improved or banned since.
Lazy Panda 7 years ago
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: even if vaccines did cause autism it takes a special kind of evil to hate autistic children so much that you’d prefer to have a dead or suffering child
diane a 7 years ago
it is just utter common sense to vaccinate. Herd immunity only works so long as the entire herd are immune. The huge increase in contagious childhood diseases(that once were eradicated) over the last few years is entirely down to antivaxers thinking they are special
Load More Replies... Chris Jones 7 years ago
Here we go again! Anti-vaxxers are utter morons and there is no valid argument. Lies, damned lies and statistics - you can make them show anything as the responses prove. Autism not caused by vaccines. End of.
diane a 7 years ago (edited)
the anti vaxxers even make an issue of it - Declaring on social media that they refuse to have their little darling immune to killer contagious childhood diseases - and the parents themselves would have been immunised as children
Load More Replies... Magdalina777 7 years ago
Haha, nice graphs. I remember when I was studying probability theory/statistics at uni our teacher told us a fun story - at one point the scientists in one of the European countries decided to do certain research(can't remember the details unfortunately). And...they found that apparently the number of babies being born correlates pretty closely with the number of storks in the area. So...babies are brought by storks after all?! But after more research they found out it's in fact the other way round - the country had recently passed a law that made it easier for newly wed couples to get their own houses(lots of new houses built just for that too). So all of a sudden a whole lot of young couples were getting their own places - and, as a consequence, a lot of them also felt comfortable getting babies=>more babies. But at the same time all of those nice new houses in the country were super convenient for stork nests=>more storks ;) Gotta be careful with your statistics.
Wil Vanderheijden 7 years ago
There's just one way to stop this Anti-vax movement and that's legislation. There could be laws that prohibit day care centers to take in children that aren't vaccinated, laws to force parents to have their children vaccinated. If the Child protection services are so swift on interfering when a "free range kid" is reported, why can't they take children away from parents who refuse to have them vaccinated?
veryvenasaur 1 year ago
Just to play devils advocate what about people who can't safely be vaccinated I have a friend who's sister received a vaccine and ended up hospitalized from a rare reaction so the parents decided not to try to continue vaccinating the child since the reaction is often fatal. Obviously this is very rare and I've only ever met one person who even knows someone who that's happened to but would those people be allowed to not be vaccinated or would they be forced to repetitively risk their lives.
Load More Replies... Leo Domitrix 7 years ago
Other possible correlative if not causative factors: Age of people when they have kids (aging parents are being studied as a factor, btw, for real, no joke); cumulative effect of environmental toxins on parental DNA (e.g., exposure to lead/lead gas exhaust, pesticides, etc., causing glitches in transcription); and this can go on for-freaking-ever. But it's not vaccines, or what is in vaccines. THOSE SAVE LIVES. People in other countries find anti-vaxxing inhumane and child endangerment. I agree.
Carol Emory 7 years ago
My criminology professor pointed out that anything can be correlated if the numbers are right. As in, ice cream consumption increases during summer months....so does burglaries. So therefore, ice cream must cause people to want to commit burglaries. Actual..the factor in play is warm weather. People eat more ice cream during hot summer months and burglars are more likely to break into homes during the summer months when people are on vacation and when it's not so freezing cold outside.
Aunt Messy 7 years ago
My criminology professor used this example: 99% of spouses who are beaten, therefore 99% of men beat their wives. ...///... Yes. That is as stupid as it sounds.
Load More Replies... Amina Hays 7 years ago
I have autism and anti-vaxxers are not only incorrect, they're upsetting. They're essentially saying they'd prefer their child to die of a completely avoidable disease than have autism. I know what my mum prefers and it isn't having a dead kid.
Alex Bailey 7 years ago
Anti-vaxxers seriously don't really think their child runs the risk of becoming sick or dead if they don't vaccinate, they think it's a tiny, almost impossible risk. People are good at convincing themselves of what they want to believe. People are scared of autism, not because they hate autistic children, but because they are scared that they won't be able to cope with a disabled child. It's fear about their own abilities. At the heart of it they fear they won't be any good at parenting a child they think might be different. It is all about them, not their children.
Load More Replies... Cat Kittey 7 years ago
VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM!!! Vaccines are good things! They help your body build antibodies to fight off the actual virus when you become exposed to it. Without vaccines, your body is defenseless against these horrific diseases and you could die from them. Get vaccinated! The binding agents, however, could be to blame. Many binding agents include various forms of mercury. Many people are VERY hypersensitive to mercury. I know from personal experience. I almost went blind from the mercury that was used in contact solutions many years ago. Oh, No!!! What should I do? Pharmaceutical companies do make vaccines without mercury compounds. Ask your doctor for vaccines that do not contain mercury compounds.
Craig Silberman 7 years ago
Autism rates have NOT been rising. What has been rising is diagnoses of autism, which correlate inversely to the decline in diagnoses of other mental handicaps. People who would have been called "r******d" thirty or forty years ago are being diagnosed as autistic today. And the rate of the two is level, not rising.
Pancho Zapata 7 years ago
allow the herd mentality to test the vaccines and it would be wise to accept them only after being proven successful. one should know that all vaccines applied in the 50,s and sixties have been improved or banned since.
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