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Anti-Vaxxers Are Sharing Tactics Online On How To Avoid Mandatory Vaccines, And It’s Pretty Scary
Greta Jaruševičiūtė BoredPanda staff
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So, if you’re not outraged enough already over a previous post about the bizarre behavior of the anti-vaccine crew, here’s another example that is immoral, dishonest and can even put the lives of others in serious risk.
If you want to work in the healthcare industry, where you are exposed to bacteria, viruses and all kinds of illness and disease more often than regular people, it just makes sense that your immune system is as robust and strong as it possibly can be. Not just for yourself, but for those that you come in contact with too, as their own immune systems can be severely compromised and any infection can quickly become life threatening.
Therefore, most employers make it mandatory that healthcare professionals are fully vaccinated, even against ‘minor’ things like the flu. This brings a dilemma for anti-vaxxers who want to be doctors, nurses etc. as they have to choose between their ill-founded principles, and the realities of medical science.
Now, there appears to be a Facebook group for these people to share their tips and hints of how to cheat the system, and enter the healthcare world unvaccinated. From getting friends receipts, to finding stores that give receipts before the shot so they can run away, these people are infuriatingly brazen about their selfish behavior. Some even go as far as to refuse TB testing or x-rays. Because things were so much better when we were ‘pure’ without these forced, evil-government ‘toxins’ and dying in our 30’s, right?
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Scroll down below to check out the posts for yourself and let us know what you think in the comments below. Do they have a point? Or is this just plain wrong? Join the conversation!
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There are more and more posts on social media explaining how one can avoid vaccines
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And some of the posts offer an insight into why anyone would want to do that
Commenters were quick to share their advice
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And it’s not only vaccines, someone asked advice on how to avoid being tested for tuberculosis
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But the scariest bit has to be people asking advice on how to avoid the shots while trying to land a job in a hospital
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Even some people who claim to be already working in the medical field admit to avoiding vaccines
Discussions like these are more common than you might think
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Pull King 6 years ago
Sorry if this gets downvoted for swearing but... F**K THISE STUPID IDIOTS WHO DONT GET VACCINS U ARE GIVING DEADLY DISSEASES A CHANCE TO COME BACK AFTER BEEING NEARLY COMPLETLY ELIMNATED FOR OVER 25 F*****G YEARS
Tracy Sellars 6 years ago
Don't have an issue with your swearing. Hell of lot less dangerous than the morons not getting vaccinated
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Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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The entire adult population of the US has NEVER been vaccinated anywhere near standards now "demanded/suggested" - and to prove the industry a lying sack of s**t - there have been no pandemics because of this. None. Not one. Nope - unvaccinated population for all intents and purposes and NO - repeat - ZERO pandemics. Real world PROVES your belief to be untrue. Absolutely, totally untrue. Oh - and since Europe did NOT do the polio vaccine and yet their polio rate died in parallel with ours - IT WAS NOT THE VACCINE - but let's not confuse you with FACTS...
Zori the degu 6 years ago
No one's gonna downvote you for your comments. You call pumpkins pumpkins, right? You are in your right to call idiots idiots no matter what haters are gonna say.
Sandra La Madeleine 6 years ago
I don't care about the swearing. I'm gonna upvote the hell out of your comment because I could not say better myself.
Birdgirl45 6 years ago
It's ridiculous and insanely stupid! It's like there is proof they are very beneficial! Why deny them anyways??
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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Again - sorry oh s**t - they're deleting me... A******s. Don't know s**t, but want to push the drug pusher lies and get you fearful cowards obeying them... Later, and good luck with your shots. Hope YOU don't end up one of the over $3,600,000,000 paid off for PROVEN vaccine damages
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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The "proof" is tainted b******t. So someone gets measles in the US. NOT fatal. Period. A little discomfort and in a short time you (i) have permanent immunity. NO vaccine provides ANY immunity. They "protect" MAYBE for a period of 2-6 years. So i got measles as a kid - and have permanent immunity to it - you don't. WHEN your vax wears off you are many, many times more likely to become killed or permanently injured because the disease no longer hits you pre-pubescent. So the mumps after puberty? 20X more likely to kill you than if you had it wild as a kid. 15X more likely to cause permanent damage to you than when a kid gets it. There is no such thing as herd immunity from vaccines - at all, ever. 99% vax compliance in China in one province of 300,000,000 people - 707 outbreaks. S Korea had "chicken pox" problem in 2005 - increased jab rate in several stages. EVERY TIME they increased the vax rate, the disease/outbreak rose MORE. By 2015 the country was 95% compliant - 97% for infants
Owain Shebbeare 6 years ago
The language does not bother me. Dirty anti-vaxxers do! If you have a medical reason for not getting a vaccine, such as an allergy, sweet, but pseudo-scientific hysteria is not knowledge. Then again telling this sort of thing to anti-vaxxers is pointless as they are so reinforced with BS that no other POV touches them.
Giulia Betke 6 years ago
i have gotten whooping cough twice even though i have been vaccinated cause all the stupid parents at my school didn't get their kids vaccinated, my immune system isn't great so without herd immunity i got sick.
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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Wrong - science shows that a person getting a pertussis shot is 5X more likely to get whooping cough than an unvaccinated person. If a person doesn't have pertussis - HOW are they going to give it to you? But MAGICALLY all the idiots think that if you DON'T do something then all the pathogens within 300 miles are going to land on ONLY that unvaccinated person (the smart one) and then, while that person is busy not getting sick - they infect all the people that are supposed to NOT get sick because they got their shots. SO - the shots are NOT PROTECTING YOU you silly - but you blame people without ANY proof whatsoever. Jabbers are fools so often....
Bunzilla 6 years ago
Yep. Couldn't agree with you more. These morons don't seem to give two shits about who they kill because of their pseudo-scientific beliefs. Find another profession, jackasses. When I was a few months of age, I caught the flu because of a careless neighbour. I ended up in the hospital, and I don't think my immune system ever fully recovered. And now it's even worse, I catch everything (I still get my damned vaccines though!). That one act of carelessness screwed up my entire life. My. Entire. Life. Imagine if one of the nurses who cared for me also was carrying a virus? It would have killed me, no question. These people don't deserve their patient's trust. Much less anyone else's.
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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Derp - wrong. How is YOUR weak immune system the fault of your neighbor? The truth is that kids that don't get ANY vaccines are healthier than those vaccinated. Less asthma, 5X less hospital visits, multiple times less ADHD/ADD, much lower autism rates, allergies, etc. New study this year (ever bother reading an actual medical study or at least the abstract you parrot?) shows that YOU are 630% - that's 6.3X more likely to be infecting other people with flu viruses FROM YOUR VACCINE than someone that didn't get a flu shot. Why? Because not all the viruses die. If you looked at the damb vax INSERT it tells you that it has never been safety tested for fetuses, or breastfeeding infants, or babies, or pregnant women. It states that studies show no reduction in your chance of getting influenza if you take the shot. OH - and bonus - you can get mercury poisoning...
Caitlyn Marquez 5 years ago
I hate vaccines, just because needles scare the c**p out of me. I am not anti vaccination, I just am terrified of needles, but I still get vaccines.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
Whistleblower Dr. Judy Mikovits - 11 Minutes That BLEW ME AWAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZETbXCqCM 25 million Americans, alone, infected through vaccine labs and vaccines. 25 million!!! And antivaxxers are the danger... Jailed, without trial, without hearing, without the opportunity to make a defense, for showing the data. For showing the data.
Lorry Brown 3 years ago
you've got the wrong idea about virus, the virome, natural immunity and health.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
Who's a dangerous idiot? An NPC is a dangerous idiot. Useful, dangerous idiots.
Virgil Blue 6 years ago
No vaccines actually fortify your immune system by giving it some weak (or even just bits of) pathogens it can "practice" on to learn how to deal with the full strength diseases when you run into them.
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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You obviously don't know s**t about vaccines. Your "medical experts" the MDs get a short afternoon of flawed vax theory, lying history, and current CDC schedule. Period. EXPERT testimony in court - head of Michigan AAP stated that they are trained to go to the CDC site and read that. THAT is their "expertise". You - and the docs - don't know that polio outbreaks started because of gypsy moths. Amateur entomologist in New Jersey brought them over and they got loose. DESTROYED fruit orchards and the pesticides of the late 1800s couldn't slow them down. Then they found combining lead with arsenic did kill them. So they sprayed the orchards. EVERY outbreak took place EXACTLY WHERE and EXACTLY WHEN that spraying took place. Later the polio held a very close relationship to DDT spraying - a known neurotoxin. The definition of polio BEFORE the vax came along was paralysis in 2 or more muscle groups for 2 DAYS. That's important. AFTER the vaccine came out they CHANGED THE DEFINITION to be p
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
Paralysis in two or more muscle groups for TWO MONTHS or more. Why is this cricital? Because if you took 1,000 people who were polio victims - met this criterion - prior to the vax - 999 out of that 1,000 healed their self within a few weeks to a bit more. The NEW definition automatically eliminated 99.9% of those people. So the DEFINITION ALONE is responsible for dropping vaccine numbers because in multiple provinces in Canada the numbers of people getting killed and being permanently damaged doubled or more. In the US - states which had NEVER had a case of polio before the vaccine got them as soon as they used the vaccine. There hasn't been a wild case of polio in the US for several decades now - ALL the polio victims you now see are from THE VACCINE!!! If you are stupidly referring to measles and mumps as deadly diseases you're full of s**t. That is ONLY true if you're from a 3rd world hell-hole - NOT the US. Measles is not deadly excepting extremely rare occasions - in fact we
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
Virgil Blue - look at agammaimmunoglobuminaemia. It is the people (about 6-10%) who DON'T MAKE ANTIBODIES AT ALL. So according to jabber theory - they are toast. BUT in the REAL world they got the same childhood diseases as everyone else - BEFORE there were measles shots, etc - and they healed at the same cure rates and cure times as anyone making antibodies. The theory of "effectiveness" as industry says - has not even looked at how much disease occurs after the antigen response is measured. They follow for only a short time. They NEVER do a safety test that is scientifically valid. They always test against another vaccine (or 2 or 3 - MMRII insert) and so they don't have an inert placebo. That makes the study totally invalid for safety. There is literally no real comparison. That is true of EVERY industry "safety" study in history.
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
From the post below - no edit for that box: we have many times more people killed by the mmr shot than we do from measles - and measles hasn't killed anyone in the US for quite awhile. The Disney BS? Over 120 people (some say more) got measles. NONE died, NONE injured. Little discomfort and done. NY State later that year - measles outbreak - 90% of the infected were vaccinated to NOT be infected. Didn't work, did it? Later - mumps in Ohio. Outbreak found that 97% of the infected were vaccinated against getting the mumps. Didn't work, did it? You are 5X more likely to get whooping cough IF YOU ARE VACCINATED - the shots don't stop whooping cough, but an excretion from the bacteria which is toxic. Nothing in the pertussis shot to prevent pertussis itself AND it's provably causing MORE damage by mutating the pertussis virus to a different strain. You likely swallow the herd immunity s**t. Can NEVER happen via vaccine because human biochemistry will not work that way.
Marilyn Guinnane 6 years ago
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Pull King --- Are you aware that vaccine contains aluminum? And does aluminum cause Alzheimer's? Uh-huh. And it builds up in the brain. Right accumulates! There are a lot of scary and unhealthy ingredients in vaccine. Dummy up.
A S Koziol 6 years ago
I'd rather die at 80 of Alzheimer's than at 20 because some douchebag at my college refused to get his/her measles shot!!! You need a serious dose of perspective.
Morph 6 years ago
Marilyn, are you aware that antiperspirant contains aluminum? As does the food you cook in aluminum foil. You get a lot worse things in much higher doses that will do more damage to you than those found in vaccines. Those vaccines will also help you avoid getting and spreading deadly diseases. But yeah, Alzheimer's from vaccines...sure.
Nubmaeme 6 years ago
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One question: Do you realize that a vaccinated person actually sheds the virus they were given in the shot, thereby infecting far more people than non-vaccinated people do? You can't shed what you don't have. Do the research. I have. And it has been admitted by even those poison manufacturers that call themselves vaccine makers that that happens. So don't go blaming anti-vaxxers for all the woes. I have nothing against vaccines themselves. Some have been good. What I don't like is the garbage that manufacturers have added just to be adding it. My attitude toward vaccines changed drastically when I lost family members to vaccines. And yes, it was proven that the vaccines were the cause of death.
Chad Horsley 6 years ago
That is so scientifically in accurate I don't even know where to begin.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
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All medicines, excluding none, come with a risk. So, how is it that you people have come to the mass conclusion that vaccines are some sort of magical product devoid of serious consequence? The evidence isn't only available. It's recently occurring. What is there to not understand? Mind your own business, get your own shots. You're covered. How could there be a problem? Your indignation when your vaccination means you are covered indicates that you have taken the bait, hook, line and sinker, and are spreading the propaganda for those selling the stuff. Get a clue. Observe yourself. And to think that you people see others as morons. It is laughable, to say the least.
A S Koziol 6 years ago
But it's you morons who bring unvaccinated and sick children into waiting rooms and expose the infants too young for vaccines to all kinds of c**p, and guess what? Some of those infants have caught diseases that killed them from the sick kids who wouldn't have been sick with measles and such IF THEY HAD BEEN VACINNATED! IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU!!! IT'S ABOUT ALL OF US AS A COMMUNITY AND A SPECIES!!!!!
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
I bet you go to work sick, too. Don't you. You go to the shops sick. You go to the doctors sick. No f***s given in that case, is there. Why? Because it's not a popular sentiment. It's not a fad. There's no bandwagon to join and be part of the popular crowd. No brownie points. No one to demonise but yourself. You're all hypocrites of the most fatuous order.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
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I'm pretty sure that I would have had a measles vaccination. Still, I got measles. As a child. I survived. And the vax didn't protect other kids in that case. So, you're misconstruing the reality. Vax doesn't dictate that people are safe from disease. It can help, but there are plenty of ways to help. Are you willing to go and live in a less populated area to help diminish the possibility that diseases transfer? That would help, but you're anti-isolation. You demon! You child killer! Get a f*****g grip.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
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You said it in your own words. It's not about you. It's not about those kids. It's about all of us, and we all have a choice. Yes?
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
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See how ridiculous you people are?
Csaba Hegedűs 6 years ago
The most infuriating is when I see actual medical students asking for advice how to cheat the system. If you can't believe in vaccinations after more than a 100 years worth of scientific evidence, how can you ever be a good doctor? They kind of make me think of moles in police. What is their motive?
Mick Fowler 6 years ago
More ammunition for you: Dairy farmers inoculated themselves and their families with cow pox as early as the 18th century. It was folk medicine. It worked!
Load More Replies... Owain Shebbeare 6 years ago
Dear me, Mark Fowler, you use common sense. Trouble is that anti-vaxxer hysterics don't really know a thing about common sense when it comes to vaccinations.
Joe Jackson 6 years ago
Variolation is MUCH MUCH older than that, think thousands of years old in places like China. They would grind up smallpox lesions from people with a weak infection and make you insufflate it. They even had specially decorated metal straws just for that purpose.
John Scudamore 6 years ago
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that's bollocks, smallpox was a non-infectious sanitary disease that died out when people had sewers, clean water and better living conditions http://whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html smallpoxsa...a02457.jpg 
RaroaRaroa 6 years ago
Good point. If they don't believe in modern medicine why the heck do they want to be doctors and nurses? Pretending to have had the shots is putting lives at risk - the lives of those who can't get the vaccinations for genuine reasons. How can they be doctors when they think something like the 1918 flu pandemic (lowest estimate 25 million killed) is a good thing.
RespectThePaiva 6 years ago
If you don't believe the sound Science of vaccines, why on Earth would you believe and rigorously study the other 1000 things based on Science? This kind of "woke" stupidity baffles me.
Lorry Brown 3 years ago
maybe they know something that you assume to be beneficial when it may not be. Many people who've received flu shot get the flu. It only provides a false sense of security. Labs have yet to get coronavirus' vaccines right. Otherwise, you wouldn;t need it every year.
Marilyn Guinnane 6 years ago
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Csaba Hegedus --- It is strongly believed that the deadly Spanish flu of 1918 was actually spread by vaccination. The polio vaccine of the 1950s is giving baby boomers cancer, come middle age. I could go on and on. WAKE UP.
Chad Horsley 6 years ago
Uhm...where did you get this information? Polio vaccine kept people from being paralyzed or in an iron lung. Are you an idiot? To say the vaccines give you cancer is just a completely incorrect blanket statement that you couldn't prove let alone get into a science journal.
srh 6 years ago
Heyyyy – remember that one time, the neighbours' kid died of measles? No? Because they got it f*** vaccinated!! >:-(
Conni Kerr 6 years ago
I DO remember in PRE measles vaccine days, my elementary school's principal's son dying because of the measles though.
Load More Replies... Owain Shebbeare 6 years ago
I work in Asia a lot, developing countries mostly, and they love their vaccines because they still see neighbours dying from Measles, Polio and any number of other diseases that vaccines help in preventing. Anti-vaxxers are First World people who don't recall that just a couple of generations ago we also had these diseases in our communities and vaccination largely irradicated them and provided herd immunity for the few who genuinely cannot take vaccinations.
Sansa Blacktyde 6 years ago
And my father in law nearly died of polio, before the vaccine was made available where he is and is now disabled as a result. The polio vaccine alone has saved countless lives and people from having life changing disabilities. Wtf would you deny that to your child!!!!
Pull King 6 years ago
Sorry if this gets downvoted for swearing but... F**K THISE STUPID IDIOTS WHO DONT GET VACCINS U ARE GIVING DEADLY DISSEASES A CHANCE TO COME BACK AFTER BEEING NEARLY COMPLETLY ELIMNATED FOR OVER 25 F*****G YEARS
Tracy Sellars 6 years ago
Don't have an issue with your swearing. Hell of lot less dangerous than the morons not getting vaccinated
Load More Replies... Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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The entire adult population of the US has NEVER been vaccinated anywhere near standards now "demanded/suggested" - and to prove the industry a lying sack of s**t - there have been no pandemics because of this. None. Not one. Nope - unvaccinated population for all intents and purposes and NO - repeat - ZERO pandemics. Real world PROVES your belief to be untrue. Absolutely, totally untrue. Oh - and since Europe did NOT do the polio vaccine and yet their polio rate died in parallel with ours - IT WAS NOT THE VACCINE - but let's not confuse you with FACTS...
Zori the degu 6 years ago
No one's gonna downvote you for your comments. You call pumpkins pumpkins, right? You are in your right to call idiots idiots no matter what haters are gonna say.
Sandra La Madeleine 6 years ago
I don't care about the swearing. I'm gonna upvote the hell out of your comment because I could not say better myself.
Birdgirl45 6 years ago
It's ridiculous and insanely stupid! It's like there is proof they are very beneficial! Why deny them anyways??
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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Again - sorry oh s**t - they're deleting me... A******s. Don't know s**t, but want to push the drug pusher lies and get you fearful cowards obeying them... Later, and good luck with your shots. Hope YOU don't end up one of the over $3,600,000,000 paid off for PROVEN vaccine damages
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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The "proof" is tainted b******t. So someone gets measles in the US. NOT fatal. Period. A little discomfort and in a short time you (i) have permanent immunity. NO vaccine provides ANY immunity. They "protect" MAYBE for a period of 2-6 years. So i got measles as a kid - and have permanent immunity to it - you don't. WHEN your vax wears off you are many, many times more likely to become killed or permanently injured because the disease no longer hits you pre-pubescent. So the mumps after puberty? 20X more likely to kill you than if you had it wild as a kid. 15X more likely to cause permanent damage to you than when a kid gets it. There is no such thing as herd immunity from vaccines - at all, ever. 99% vax compliance in China in one province of 300,000,000 people - 707 outbreaks. S Korea had "chicken pox" problem in 2005 - increased jab rate in several stages. EVERY TIME they increased the vax rate, the disease/outbreak rose MORE. By 2015 the country was 95% compliant - 97% for infants
Owain Shebbeare 6 years ago
The language does not bother me. Dirty anti-vaxxers do! If you have a medical reason for not getting a vaccine, such as an allergy, sweet, but pseudo-scientific hysteria is not knowledge. Then again telling this sort of thing to anti-vaxxers is pointless as they are so reinforced with BS that no other POV touches them.
Giulia Betke 6 years ago
i have gotten whooping cough twice even though i have been vaccinated cause all the stupid parents at my school didn't get their kids vaccinated, my immune system isn't great so without herd immunity i got sick.
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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Wrong - science shows that a person getting a pertussis shot is 5X more likely to get whooping cough than an unvaccinated person. If a person doesn't have pertussis - HOW are they going to give it to you? But MAGICALLY all the idiots think that if you DON'T do something then all the pathogens within 300 miles are going to land on ONLY that unvaccinated person (the smart one) and then, while that person is busy not getting sick - they infect all the people that are supposed to NOT get sick because they got their shots. SO - the shots are NOT PROTECTING YOU you silly - but you blame people without ANY proof whatsoever. Jabbers are fools so often....
Bunzilla 6 years ago
Yep. Couldn't agree with you more. These morons don't seem to give two shits about who they kill because of their pseudo-scientific beliefs. Find another profession, jackasses. When I was a few months of age, I caught the flu because of a careless neighbour. I ended up in the hospital, and I don't think my immune system ever fully recovered. And now it's even worse, I catch everything (I still get my damned vaccines though!). That one act of carelessness screwed up my entire life. My. Entire. Life. Imagine if one of the nurses who cared for me also was carrying a virus? It would have killed me, no question. These people don't deserve their patient's trust. Much less anyone else's.
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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Derp - wrong. How is YOUR weak immune system the fault of your neighbor? The truth is that kids that don't get ANY vaccines are healthier than those vaccinated. Less asthma, 5X less hospital visits, multiple times less ADHD/ADD, much lower autism rates, allergies, etc. New study this year (ever bother reading an actual medical study or at least the abstract you parrot?) shows that YOU are 630% - that's 6.3X more likely to be infecting other people with flu viruses FROM YOUR VACCINE than someone that didn't get a flu shot. Why? Because not all the viruses die. If you looked at the damb vax INSERT it tells you that it has never been safety tested for fetuses, or breastfeeding infants, or babies, or pregnant women. It states that studies show no reduction in your chance of getting influenza if you take the shot. OH - and bonus - you can get mercury poisoning...
Caitlyn Marquez 5 years ago
I hate vaccines, just because needles scare the c**p out of me. I am not anti vaccination, I just am terrified of needles, but I still get vaccines.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
Whistleblower Dr. Judy Mikovits - 11 Minutes That BLEW ME AWAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZETbXCqCM 25 million Americans, alone, infected through vaccine labs and vaccines. 25 million!!! And antivaxxers are the danger... Jailed, without trial, without hearing, without the opportunity to make a defense, for showing the data. For showing the data.
Lorry Brown 3 years ago
you've got the wrong idea about virus, the virome, natural immunity and health.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
Who's a dangerous idiot? An NPC is a dangerous idiot. Useful, dangerous idiots.
Virgil Blue 6 years ago
No vaccines actually fortify your immune system by giving it some weak (or even just bits of) pathogens it can "practice" on to learn how to deal with the full strength diseases when you run into them.
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
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You obviously don't know s**t about vaccines. Your "medical experts" the MDs get a short afternoon of flawed vax theory, lying history, and current CDC schedule. Period. EXPERT testimony in court - head of Michigan AAP stated that they are trained to go to the CDC site and read that. THAT is their "expertise". You - and the docs - don't know that polio outbreaks started because of gypsy moths. Amateur entomologist in New Jersey brought them over and they got loose. DESTROYED fruit orchards and the pesticides of the late 1800s couldn't slow them down. Then they found combining lead with arsenic did kill them. So they sprayed the orchards. EVERY outbreak took place EXACTLY WHERE and EXACTLY WHEN that spraying took place. Later the polio held a very close relationship to DDT spraying - a known neurotoxin. The definition of polio BEFORE the vax came along was paralysis in 2 or more muscle groups for 2 DAYS. That's important. AFTER the vaccine came out they CHANGED THE DEFINITION to be p
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
Paralysis in two or more muscle groups for TWO MONTHS or more. Why is this cricital? Because if you took 1,000 people who were polio victims - met this criterion - prior to the vax - 999 out of that 1,000 healed their self within a few weeks to a bit more. The NEW definition automatically eliminated 99.9% of those people. So the DEFINITION ALONE is responsible for dropping vaccine numbers because in multiple provinces in Canada the numbers of people getting killed and being permanently damaged doubled or more. In the US - states which had NEVER had a case of polio before the vaccine got them as soon as they used the vaccine. There hasn't been a wild case of polio in the US for several decades now - ALL the polio victims you now see are from THE VACCINE!!! If you are stupidly referring to measles and mumps as deadly diseases you're full of s**t. That is ONLY true if you're from a 3rd world hell-hole - NOT the US. Measles is not deadly excepting extremely rare occasions - in fact we
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
Virgil Blue - look at agammaimmunoglobuminaemia. It is the people (about 6-10%) who DON'T MAKE ANTIBODIES AT ALL. So according to jabber theory - they are toast. BUT in the REAL world they got the same childhood diseases as everyone else - BEFORE there were measles shots, etc - and they healed at the same cure rates and cure times as anyone making antibodies. The theory of "effectiveness" as industry says - has not even looked at how much disease occurs after the antigen response is measured. They follow for only a short time. They NEVER do a safety test that is scientifically valid. They always test against another vaccine (or 2 or 3 - MMRII insert) and so they don't have an inert placebo. That makes the study totally invalid for safety. There is literally no real comparison. That is true of EVERY industry "safety" study in history.
Bradley Roon 6 years ago
From the post below - no edit for that box: we have many times more people killed by the mmr shot than we do from measles - and measles hasn't killed anyone in the US for quite awhile. The Disney BS? Over 120 people (some say more) got measles. NONE died, NONE injured. Little discomfort and done. NY State later that year - measles outbreak - 90% of the infected were vaccinated to NOT be infected. Didn't work, did it? Later - mumps in Ohio. Outbreak found that 97% of the infected were vaccinated against getting the mumps. Didn't work, did it? You are 5X more likely to get whooping cough IF YOU ARE VACCINATED - the shots don't stop whooping cough, but an excretion from the bacteria which is toxic. Nothing in the pertussis shot to prevent pertussis itself AND it's provably causing MORE damage by mutating the pertussis virus to a different strain. You likely swallow the herd immunity s**t. Can NEVER happen via vaccine because human biochemistry will not work that way.
Marilyn Guinnane 6 years ago
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Pull King --- Are you aware that vaccine contains aluminum? And does aluminum cause Alzheimer's? Uh-huh. And it builds up in the brain. Right accumulates! There are a lot of scary and unhealthy ingredients in vaccine. Dummy up.
A S Koziol 6 years ago
I'd rather die at 80 of Alzheimer's than at 20 because some douchebag at my college refused to get his/her measles shot!!! You need a serious dose of perspective.
Morph 6 years ago
Marilyn, are you aware that antiperspirant contains aluminum? As does the food you cook in aluminum foil. You get a lot worse things in much higher doses that will do more damage to you than those found in vaccines. Those vaccines will also help you avoid getting and spreading deadly diseases. But yeah, Alzheimer's from vaccines...sure.
Nubmaeme 6 years ago
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One question: Do you realize that a vaccinated person actually sheds the virus they were given in the shot, thereby infecting far more people than non-vaccinated people do? You can't shed what you don't have. Do the research. I have. And it has been admitted by even those poison manufacturers that call themselves vaccine makers that that happens. So don't go blaming anti-vaxxers for all the woes. I have nothing against vaccines themselves. Some have been good. What I don't like is the garbage that manufacturers have added just to be adding it. My attitude toward vaccines changed drastically when I lost family members to vaccines. And yes, it was proven that the vaccines were the cause of death.
Chad Horsley 6 years ago
That is so scientifically in accurate I don't even know where to begin.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
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All medicines, excluding none, come with a risk. So, how is it that you people have come to the mass conclusion that vaccines are some sort of magical product devoid of serious consequence? The evidence isn't only available. It's recently occurring. What is there to not understand? Mind your own business, get your own shots. You're covered. How could there be a problem? Your indignation when your vaccination means you are covered indicates that you have taken the bait, hook, line and sinker, and are spreading the propaganda for those selling the stuff. Get a clue. Observe yourself. And to think that you people see others as morons. It is laughable, to say the least.
A S Koziol 6 years ago
But it's you morons who bring unvaccinated and sick children into waiting rooms and expose the infants too young for vaccines to all kinds of c**p, and guess what? Some of those infants have caught diseases that killed them from the sick kids who wouldn't have been sick with measles and such IF THEY HAD BEEN VACINNATED! IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU!!! IT'S ABOUT ALL OF US AS A COMMUNITY AND A SPECIES!!!!!
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
I bet you go to work sick, too. Don't you. You go to the shops sick. You go to the doctors sick. No f***s given in that case, is there. Why? Because it's not a popular sentiment. It's not a fad. There's no bandwagon to join and be part of the popular crowd. No brownie points. No one to demonise but yourself. You're all hypocrites of the most fatuous order.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
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I'm pretty sure that I would have had a measles vaccination. Still, I got measles. As a child. I survived. And the vax didn't protect other kids in that case. So, you're misconstruing the reality. Vax doesn't dictate that people are safe from disease. It can help, but there are plenty of ways to help. Are you willing to go and live in a less populated area to help diminish the possibility that diseases transfer? That would help, but you're anti-isolation. You demon! You child killer! Get a f*****g grip.
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
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You said it in your own words. It's not about you. It's not about those kids. It's about all of us, and we all have a choice. Yes?
fuggnuggins 6 years ago
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See how ridiculous you people are?
Csaba Hegedűs 6 years ago
The most infuriating is when I see actual medical students asking for advice how to cheat the system. If you can't believe in vaccinations after more than a 100 years worth of scientific evidence, how can you ever be a good doctor? They kind of make me think of moles in police. What is their motive?
Mick Fowler 6 years ago
More ammunition for you: Dairy farmers inoculated themselves and their families with cow pox as early as the 18th century. It was folk medicine. It worked!
Load More Replies... Owain Shebbeare 6 years ago
Dear me, Mark Fowler, you use common sense. Trouble is that anti-vaxxer hysterics don't really know a thing about common sense when it comes to vaccinations.
Joe Jackson 6 years ago
Variolation is MUCH MUCH older than that, think thousands of years old in places like China. They would grind up smallpox lesions from people with a weak infection and make you insufflate it. They even had specially decorated metal straws just for that purpose.
John Scudamore 6 years ago
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that's bollocks, smallpox was a non-infectious sanitary disease that died out when people had sewers, clean water and better living conditions http://whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html smallpoxsa...a02457.jpg
RaroaRaroa 6 years ago
Good point. If they don't believe in modern medicine why the heck do they want to be doctors and nurses? Pretending to have had the shots is putting lives at risk - the lives of those who can't get the vaccinations for genuine reasons. How can they be doctors when they think something like the 1918 flu pandemic (lowest estimate 25 million killed) is a good thing.
RespectThePaiva 6 years ago
If you don't believe the sound Science of vaccines, why on Earth would you believe and rigorously study the other 1000 things based on Science? This kind of "woke" stupidity baffles me.
Lorry Brown 3 years ago
maybe they know something that you assume to be beneficial when it may not be. Many people who've received flu shot get the flu. It only provides a false sense of security. Labs have yet to get coronavirus' vaccines right. Otherwise, you wouldn;t need it every year.
Marilyn Guinnane 6 years ago
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Csaba Hegedus --- It is strongly believed that the deadly Spanish flu of 1918 was actually spread by vaccination. The polio vaccine of the 1950s is giving baby boomers cancer, come middle age. I could go on and on. WAKE UP.
Chad Horsley 6 years ago
Uhm...where did you get this information? Polio vaccine kept people from being paralyzed or in an iron lung. Are you an idiot? To say the vaccines give you cancer is just a completely incorrect blanket statement that you couldn't prove let alone get into a science journal.
srh 6 years ago
Heyyyy – remember that one time, the neighbours' kid died of measles? No? Because they got it f*** vaccinated!! >:-(
Conni Kerr 6 years ago
I DO remember in PRE measles vaccine days, my elementary school's principal's son dying because of the measles though.
Load More Replies... Owain Shebbeare 6 years ago
I work in Asia a lot, developing countries mostly, and they love their vaccines because they still see neighbours dying from Measles, Polio and any number of other diseases that vaccines help in preventing. Anti-vaxxers are First World people who don't recall that just a couple of generations ago we also had these diseases in our communities and vaccination largely irradicated them and provided herd immunity for the few who genuinely cannot take vaccinations.
Sansa Blacktyde 6 years ago
And my father in law nearly died of polio, before the vaccine was made available where he is and is now disabled as a result. The polio vaccine alone has saved countless lives and people from having life changing disabilities. Wtf would you deny that to your child!!!!
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