30 Tweets To Show How Dystopic Our Capitalistic Society Already Is, As Shared By ‘Existential Comics’
There’s nothing like a philosopher to set the record straight for everyone. Corey Mohler, the mastermind behind ‘Existential Comics,’ voices his razor-sharp thoughts about the world not just in webcomic form but also in spot-on tweets. And today, we’re featuring some of his best insights about capitalism, economics, greed, and just how unjust the entire system can seem living in the 21st century.
As you’re scrolling down, remember to upvote the tweets that you found to be particularly enlightening, dear Pandas. Meanwhile, tell us what you think of Corey’s ideas in the comments. And if you’ve got any insights about inequality, finances, and the job market, we’d love to hear what you have to say, too. Got your thinking caps? Good!
Bored Panda reached out for a chat about capitalism with financial expert Sam Dogen, the author of 'Buy This, Not That' and the founder of 'Financial Samurai.' We spoke about the pros and cons of capitalism, nepotism, and why some executives earn embarrassingly huge sums of money compared to their employees. Read on for the full exclusive interview.
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If every billionaire stopped working, their companies would eventually crumble without their foresight and leadership. The tweet is absolutely void of any logic.
Not only do they need us to produce their stuff, they need us to buy it too! They need us so much more than we need them, America survived just fine before billionaires who caused Capitalism to eat itself!
At first, capitalism laid many traps and most fell into every single one of them. Then, most did sprint into them. These days, most create their own traps and die in them, completely unaware. It was all very easy. Tragic and grotesque as psychopathic individuals are not even smart. Just exploitative stunned infants with less brain. They have no activity in left anterior insula, so they feel no obstacles to their infantile needs and goals.
"The people who tend to say capitalism is flawed are the poor or the extremely rich. It's an interesting dynamic. There is no perfect system. However, capitalism is the best system we've got that advances technology, increases productivity and efficiency, and gives people a chance to improve their financial situation. Capitalism provides people the most hope to get ahead based on hard work. Therefore, I believe capitalism will remain the system going forward," financial expert Sam shared his thoughts with Bored Panda. However, that's not to say that capitalism isn't without its flaws.
"The biggest flaw to capitalism is nepotism and family dynasties. This happens when the extraordinarily wealthy hoard their wealth and provide favors to their friends and children. This helps ensure the rich get richer and the powerful to stay powerful. Nepotism doesn't mean the rest of us can't get ahead as well. It just means that certain people will have a much easier time getting ahead than others," he said.
Firstly I have only read about half of this post but I feel that I have the general theme. And whilst I agree that capitalism is based on exploiting the workforce and that 'trickle-down' economics doesn't work, what is the solution? We can complain about it all we want - and we do - but in the end, all we are left with, is a bunch of exploited people agreeing with each other that we are being exploited. Whichever system we use, some people will always be 'more equal than others' because that is unfortunately, human nature. I hope a panda - maybe you, dear reader - can offer a solution to what has quietly become one of the biggest threats to our standard of living ever faced.
Pressure and vote for politicians willing to tax the rich and implement universal basic income (and in the US, universal healthcare)
Load More Replies...I actually had a boss one time express that, if I was stressed out with trying to balance work/home life, I should hire a cleaner to come in once or twice a week to clean the house so I don't have to stress out about it. Nah..I think you got it wrong as to what I'm more stressed out about....
Those have always been perceived as "women's purview" and not considered real work because that's what women were meant to do.
There is a voting system in place to cover this. You use the arrows just above your comment :)
Load More Replies...So a public funded project gave us internet. Glad you and post agrees.
Load More Replies...ISPs do not "provide" you with the internet. They are a toll-booth to something that was already there.
Really? How was it already there? The original internet linked government and university sites with no off roads to commercial entities. Who do you think created the "there" you're talking about?
Load More Replies...I'm not sure what free software he's talking about. Also, I don't think cooperation and protocols alone got those undersea cables installed or maintained, nor the large mainframes that store all the data.
"To hoard billions of dollars while there are so many people suffering in your very city doesn't sit right with most people. However, evolution has made humans naturally greedy to increase our chances for survival. Even elite private universities in the United States continue to provide huge advantages for wealthy legacy families. At the end of the day, we tend to take care of people who are most like ourselves," Sam pointed out that, unfortunately, real-life isn't perfectly fair or just.
Bored Panda wanted to understand why some executives earn huge sums of money while their employees might be left living from paycheck to paycheck. Author and financial expert Sam explained it all to us.
"Compensation is tied towards how much economic value you can produce or at least, appear to produce. Hence, if you want to make millions a year and be a top 0.01% income earner, then you've got to generate a lot of profits and shareholder value," he told us.
The part that blows my mind the most is how many of the people they oppress will staunchly defend the very system that oppresses them. Complete buy-in to the notion of some people deserving things and others don't; if you don't have X or Y it's because you "didn't work hard enough" rather than the system being somewhat stacked against most of us and REALLY stacked against some of us. We don't have to accept that system. We CAN make a better world.
There is no freedom in america. The whole system is designed to get you in debt so your forever working it off.
I do absolutely hate that health insurance and 401Ks are through the employer. There should be a free market for both so I can choose my own insurance and keep it regardless of what company I work for. Same for 401K. The system could be such that when I get start with a company, they ask me for my insurance/401k info and they still provide the same benefit directly to my providers instead of the provider they choose.
Even better, have health care provided free at the point of need. Americans pay SO MUCH in health insurance, and still live with the threat of bankruptcy if they get seriously ill, or not being able to receive free treatment until they are in a dire state. Look to Canada, Norway, Sweden, Australian, UK, Germany... see how it can be done. Everyone is treated, and for a huge deal less money than in the USA.
Load More Replies...Well, if health insurance is paid by the government and someone quits the job they hate and can't pay into the system which provides the health insurance why should they benefit from it?
Because...it's their human right. Kids don't pay anything and they get healthcare
Load More Replies...a) it's an article of tweets from one Twitter account, which is US-based, and b) "anyone can write for Bored Panda!" So go ahead with your different take; you are being welcomed every day to add diversity to the discussion :)
Load More Replies...... and totally neglect the fixed expenses. E.i. the part of the price that finance the heating of the restaurant, the rent, the cleaning of the toilets etc. Those expenses will remain the same, as e.g. the toilets dont get any more or less dirty depending on what you pay the employees.
Or maybe they believe that fast-food corporations, like all U.S. corporations, will seize upon any excuse to inflate their prices so that they can take more of our money away from us.
Do you honestly think the fast food corporations are the ones producing the raw food products they use? The people who produce these raw products are the origination point of a very long chain and already don't make much profit. Their workers fall within the same pay range as fast food workers and they will have no recourse other than to raise their prices. But yeah, it's all a big McConspiracy.
Load More Replies...Capitalism's biggest flaw: assuming participants in a "free" market will always act in their own long-term best interest...
Yes. Not sure how that could be any clearer by now, but there are still those who adamantly argue that the free market will naturally right everything if it's left alone. No doubt there are many arguing that disingenuously.
Load More Replies...I'd rather they burn right here on earth. May be lets say …. hypothetically... in a rocket explosion or something.
Load More Replies...Remember when lead from gasoline was causing problems and gas companies didn't care? Sad that all companies learned from that was to hire "better" (even less ethical) lawyers and play the smoke and mirrors game.
"But let's be frank about CEO compensation for some publicly-traded companies. Their compensation packages in the hundreds of millions is a joke. There are plenty of people who can conduct meetings and tell people what to do for way less compensation."
He continued: "The biggest reason these CEOs get paid so much is because they work for companies with tremendous market capitalizations, e.g. Apple, Google, etc. If you're the founder of the company, getting paid a lot is one thing. But if you're just an operator, some of the CEO compensation today is egregious and embarrassing."
Sisyphus was a king who was punished by Zeus for cheating death. His eternal punishment was to push a boulder up a hill, only to have it roll back down as he neared the top. Hercules was a demigod who had to complete the 12 Labors as penance for killing his wife and children.
Load More Replies...Problem here is to apply for most jobs, even as an artist, they want you to have a bachelor's or even masters degree. I was frequently in tears looking for a job where i can be creative as opposed to a flesh robot, and they all had requirements for at least a bachelor's or multiple years of experience. Since the experience was impossible to get without previous experience, i went into debt. After I graduated I got my first interview a week before covid shut everything down. I'm just lucky i guess?
Load More Replies...It’s easier to think that rather than admit that the “skilled” job you are in is underpaying you.
YES, this exactly. All those aggrieved people with their hot takes on "why should a person flipping burgers" (why is that ALWAYS the example?!) "make the same amount as a paramedic"? NO ONE IS SAYING THEY SHOULD MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT. BUT THE SOLUTION IS NOT KEEPING ONE IN POVERTY AND THE OTHER ONE BARELY ABOVE IT.
Load More Replies...Maybe this is where capitalism will fail. To succeed it needs people with a disposable income to purchase it’s commodities. If the workers have no income, capitalism fails.
It’s already happening. Older generations are complaining that millennials arn’t spending enough. Meanwhile millennials are drowning in student loan debt and making 36k with the 4 yr degree they paid to get.
Load More Replies...So much that was the purview of the very wealthy has, as technology advanced, become more available and cheaper, often to the point of being completely free. Early on, being able to eat regularly was a sign of affluence. Having a picture painted, watching a show or listening to a musical performance took the wealth of a patron to pay the performers. Salt and spices were immensely valuable and wars were fought to control access to their production. Traveling other than by foot wasn't a commoner's lot, usually. Education was restricted by those who could afford to pay for their children to have it themselves. While all of this may not have improved for the entire world, technology has contributed to salt and pepper being cheap enough some restaurants essentially give it away, food is far more available and can often be had out of season... and so on. If we all can live better than royalty of the past, what will money get us in the future? Will it have any actual value?
That was the argument made for the technological utopia we were supposed to be enjoying now. The problem was that idea seemed to be built on this implied understanding that it would also lead in large part to economic equality among the masses. Not only has that not happened, but now the modern-day royalty have far more wealth and privilege than the actual royalty of the past. Money will have value as long as the ruling class says it does, basically. I think it'll take a revolution to change that.
Load More Replies...Corey has been making ‘Existential Comics’ about philosophy and “the inevitable anguish of living a brief life in an absurd world” since December of 2013.
The software engineer from Portland in Oregon took an amateur interest in philosophy and decided to make it a more popular, approachable subject through the skillful use of comedy. The comic is educational, fun, and it’s something that we’ve been sneakily reading for years and years.
If you’d like to see some of Corey’s latest webcomics, you should definitely check out his website or social media. Or you could take a peek at the ones Bored Panda featured in a recent article right over here.
The US decided they wanted out from under the English model, but took the capitalist idea and ran with it. England has the NHS, worker protections and plenty of other "socialist" ideas that the US associate with evil. We moved on. It's been 300+ years, time you did too.
The UK is doing slightly better than the US but still has 20% of its people living in poverty, politicians cutting funding to the NHS and letting covid tear through the population, etc etc. Its easy to feel superior to the US but no country is doing well enough at looking after its people that it can rest on its laurels
Load More Replies...There has never been a communist government in the history of government. The concept of communism specifically repudiates the right of the State to even exist. China is not communist; it's an authoritarianism run by 7 old men. Russia is not socialist; it's an oligarchy.
We colonised just over 20% of the planet and never committed genocide. The closest example of genocide was the systematic removal of the Indigenous people of the Americas committed by....you. We did many things to be ashamed of but so did every other country on this planet. Slavery began in Africa, how do you think they built the Pyramids. It's about time we learnt form the past and designed a better future.
The pyramids were NOT built by slaves! They were built by highly skilled and well paid workers. In fact many stone blocks in the pyramids are even signed by the work gangs who placed them.
Load More Replies...No one system is the answer. If we don’t moderate how capitalism works it will become well how it is now and worse. Same with socialism, anything unchecked will just collapse.
Before capitalism, we had feudalism where the ruling class used violence and religion to extract as much wealth out of the population as possible. Before feudalism, the Romans had a slave based society. There are no good old days.
That's not when or where capitalism started, but it definitely was going on at the time. To put it in perspective, look at the history of copyrights or monopolies or the rise of the merchant class or bourgeoisie during the European Renaissance period. England played catch-up during the 16th century, but they certainly played to win.
So your saying that nobody was ever conquered before 1600? Slavery didn't exist? And everyone was living in a nice peaceful land of prosperity?
All manual worker endure hard and debilitating lives. That is the nature of work. You will find that the excavations of the workers town show that their living conditions were far greater than the average agrarian worker. Also much of the work was seasonal, when the nile was in flood many people were engaged in public works and then returned to farming when the floods receded. On the whole Ancient Egypt was less reliant on slavery than later civilizations.
Both ignore the human flaw of greed, for both money and power. Currently, the biggest examples of both systems are falling prey to the megalomaniacs among us
True, but I feel like that's more of a theme with certain characters (Like Tony Stark and for example) while other characters (Like T'Challa) realized that there were problems with society that needed to be changed. And of course there are villains that had some damn good points (Like Killmonger and Hela) while other villains are just psychos (Like Thanos and Harrow) So I think it kinda just depends on the movie.
Here's the other thing...Thanos eliminated half the population of the Universe...later Captain America comments about seeing whales in the Harbor in New York for the first time in ages. Thanos sacrificed everything because he believed that the populations of the universe were a plague that would one day destroy themselves. He's not completely wrong. Right idea..wrong approach.
Load More Replies...This is sketchy. Each point has counter arguments and really hinge more on the idea that these things could be good if the right choices are made. So I comes down to what values do you display by your choices.
Do NOT get me started on Marvel, I will talk about it all day! I FRIGGIN' LOVE MARVEL!!!
The Department of Defense works in collaboration with a LOT of movies and TV. In multiple MCU movies, the production has been granted access to use of military equipment in exchange for script-editing/review capabilities by the DoD. Here is a database of films that the DoD has had some role or say in the production of: (NOTE: this is a download link) http://www.mediafire.com/file/7rp0qocxvevs0h8/DOD-Hollywood-Database.pdf
The US military and government have been repeatedly shown to be corrupt. The team broke up when half of them wanted to join the UN and half of them didn't.
Movies are only limited by people's imagination. And they keep showing us that the best solution people can come up with is better violence.
Criticising 'the military' is akin to criticising 'capitalism'. You are talking about the umbrella under which we all work. You wouldn't blame a barista for capitalism and, as such, you wouldn't blame a soldier for the military-industrial complex. I have the utmost respect for veterans and always wear a poppy with pride, and donate to military charities whenever possible. I will never support the glorification of war, though. It is a messy, dirty, barbaric practice which I really wish we could globally evolve from. So yeah, military bad (generally) - military personnel, good (generally).
Load More Replies...Yes. The " best we have " has destroyed entire ecosystems and is gonna wipe us all if this planet. I swear humans are actually really dumb animals.
Agreed. I just wish we wouldn't take all the other living things with is as we go...
Load More Replies...Does anyone ever think that leaving America is the quickest way to solve all these problems? Because I sure do now.
I've looked into leaving America. Not as easy as you may think.
Load More Replies...A (very depressing and not fun) fun fact: American colleges and public universities were tuition-free up until the 1960s when Reagan was elected governor of CA. Leading up to and during this time, protests across the country led by groups like the Black Panthers forced the introduction of things like Black studies and departments, since white students were still heavily favored in public academia. (It’s also worth noting that public schools had been desegregated for just over a decade at this point.) Reagan said that the University of CA system should charge tuition in order to “get rid of the undesirables” (that is a real quote!). By the end of his presidency, every “formerly public” school now required and relied on tuition for funding. (source and more info: https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/free-college-was-once-the-norm-all-over-america/)
Why go into debt for college? The answer should only be "because the income after graduating will pay back the debt quickly and put me in a far better position in the long run." If the answer is "because I will get to do what I love, even though I won't make enough money to pay back the debt" then the debt was unjustified and should've been avoided.
Also...I disagree with this. Not everyone has or desires the need to go to college. There are also people, like my cousins, that come from a proud military family and want to keep the military tradition alive. Some people, like a guy I knew, are content with working as a pizza delivery person. No extra stress...no extra expectations. Just like there are some people that choose to live on the street. They have no one to answer to and they are free to do as they please. Plus money is not the only barricade to going to college. Some people will not qualify through testing. You don't need a college education to make decent money and you don't need lots of money to live a decent life.
We are slowly waking up from the idea that having a good life is only secured by a college education. But this has been the norm expectation since the early 2000’s. Where college was the next step to starting your life off “right”. It is why student loans have become such a issue now because most of us are still struggling to pay them off 20+ yrs later, as if by evil design. What your saying is true but it seems to be the exception to the rule and not standard practice.
Load More Replies...There’s more to military life than free education though or a way to pay back your loans, I’m not sure which this refers to as I can only speak for the UK military. But having a job that is focussed on building you up as a person, free adventurous training and lots of social opportunities and the feeling like you were giving something back to your community/country is second to none. Although if you then get sick, and have to leave, then they are awful!!
Yes, I`m sure there is and as long as you can trust your country to send you into dangerous situations only if there is a very good and just reason and if it is your free choice there is nothing wrong with the career. But if it is your only way to afford an education? I think that`s just plain wrong.
Load More Replies...I’ve only recently come to realise this. The earth cannot continue to support a capitalist population or our disposable lifestyles. We need sustainability in all aspects of human life.
That's what the Sustainable development goals are for
Load More Replies...And what is funny about that is if you even mention free health care, free housing and free college, you are called a socialist. How about a humanist instead?
I don't see the problem with not treating basic human rights as a prize for being a good slave.
Load More Replies...Me: purchases a new, low flow, streamlined toilet to replace the old one, which uses too much water and is hard to clean. My computer: look at all these toilets on sale! Me: Dude, I literally just bought a toilet. Barring a rain of sledgehammers in my bathroom, I'll never need another one. Toilet company: but these are new! Also, we notice you didn't purchase the monthly subscription of Flush. Your new toilet will cease to work in 30 days.
This seems to be contradicted by his tweet that said in capitalism supply and demand can go down together and everything will be fine.
Way back in 2014, Corey told ‘Critical Theory’ that he first learned to draw by practicing drawing his ‘Dungeons & Dragons’ character in high school.
“Some time in college I pretty much left it behind, and I never used any kind of comic style to begin with (the first comic is roughly how my high school art looked). So it was a lot of learning and rough patches at first as I learned how to draw in a comic style, as well as drawing digitally for the first time,” he shared some insights into his interest in art.
“Essentially I wanted to write or do something, and I took a look around the internet and realized that if you want to be popular online you have to draw some [bad] cartoons next to what you write. I figured I had enough drawing skill to pull it off, so I might as well start a webcomic,” he explained how he first got started with ‘Existential Comics.’
“I got my tablet and started practicing and writing, but it took me about a year and a half before I published my first comic. The first serious comics took a long time to produce, but I’ve gotten much more efficient now, and the art generally looks much nicer now. It was originally intended to be mostly serious comics with a few jokes thrown in, but it turns out jokes are much easier and more fun to make, so it ended up being the reverse.”
The point of this tweet *isn’t* that everyone who makes a lot of money doesn’t work hard to earn that. That’s obviously not always true. The point is that we live in a country where meritocracy is held as gospel (re: the American Dream! Work hard enough and you’ll make it! And if you’re not making it then you’re not working hard enough!). We do not live in a meritocratic society — if we did, all of the people who do back-breaking, thankless labor everyday for minimum wage would be the real capital owners.
When I started my current job I commented to a coworker how different it is. The work it easier, less of it, and for much better pay. She said "welcome to getting paid for what you know, instead of what you do."
I'm compensated moderately for a job that often requires very little but occasionally requires a wide range of skill and trouble shooting ability. I'm literally an insurance policy.
Load More Replies...Highly marketable skills, vs unskilled labor. If I can produce the value of multiple thousands of dollars with 2 meetings and the emails, why should more be required. Are you salty that the "worker" isn't working? Or that time is valued differently for different skill sets?
Well, we should start thinking about what work is really worth for society instead of how much money it brings, as stated in a previous post. No society could survive without the care economy, but if it would be paid (enough or at all - - > billionas of unpaid hours of care task in private households), economy would crash. Its about fairness - - > so yes, that time is valued differently for different skill sets!
Load More Replies...This one I will respectfully disagree with. The top person in charge at our office makes tons of money, but he is also there before anyone else and is still on at 9pm when everyone else has gone to bed. He's there on weekends and he is always busy making sure the clients are taken care of...even if it means being up at 3am for an early morning call from overseas. He is dedicated and deserves the money he makes. I just feel bad for his family because I know what it's like to grow up with a father that works himself to death for his kids. You never see him except on vacation or holidays. I wish he'd been around more.
not true at all. It depends on the company and country. See my example above in response to Mad Rabbit.
Load More Replies...Not true. I know someone who works for 105k and they work pretty much nonstop
120 here. I'm on bored panda. I've sent one email today. I'm about to go to the gym for two hours (at 10am) while I try to think of something to do for the rest of the day. This week, I've sent 3 emails telling construction contractors that I'm waiting for a response. I'm a construction designer, our contracts allow up to three months for design completion. I've never taken longer than a week to complete a design. Oh, and I'll be going to the gym in my company vehicle, a Silverado 2500HD truck which gets 13.4mpg. I haven't purchased fuel in 15 years.
Load More Replies...Just been made redundant from a job I loved, they ground me down so much I am more than happy to grab the last pay cheque and run.....
I think we as workers have to just saying no and mean it. Like no I wont work over time because I have plans and it’s important i keep them. No I wont take on more responsibility for the same pay. If we all took a stand they would have to listen.
Load More Replies...Don't get a job, build a job doing what you love. Be your own boss. Set your own hours. Buy your own things. Don't be exploitable.
It's so ridiculously expensive to buy your own tools and supplies. Businesses with enough productivity get deals on supplies, shipping, insurance, etc... because of bulk. It's a hell of a lot tougher making a living starting your own business than you make it sound. (Unless you have a rich family that can give you a million dollar loan like it's nothing.)
Load More Replies...They won't admit it.......kinda like how America won't admit who REALLY built their country
Earlier, Bored Panda spoke about the benefits and drawbacks of capitalism with a couple of financial experts. According to finance writer and financial independence expert Rick Orford, the main issues arise when capitalism is taken to the extreme. Both extreme greed and extreme capitalism thrive when a large enough part of the population is willing to take risks.
"Remember though, greed is widely accepted to be the reason for the two largest financial crises in the last century; namely 1929 and 2008. It also creates the income inequality that’s largely seen in the United States. Indeed, while everyone, in theory, has an equal opportunity to flourish, the scales seem to tip to those with the most money," Rick explained to us during a previous interview.
"[Capitalism] allows folks like you and me to succeed by creating or investing in businesses. Indeed, one looking to borrow money from the banks today won’t have to pay much for the loan. As such, it encourages growth. However, extreme capitalism creates a scenario where greed overtakes reason, and it risks the financial system," he suggested that capitalism isn’t ‘bad’ in and of itself.
We're all lowly hourly unskilled laborers until a pandemic hits, then we suddenly become "essential" (but disposable) workers.
We should all go on strike, see how long they'll last without us (I give it a week)
FYI…Bankers were essential employees too. Tellers and loan officers all worked their tails off in 2020 with historically low interest rates and almost every homeowner in America needing a refinance for home improvements.
Meanwhile the other side is like "we need moar gunz. Moar gunz will solve allll the problems. Moar gunz an moar babies! And arm the babies!"
Don't let abortion happen but when they are born you can kill em watch em starve and they can't have healthcare cos that's the MURICAN!!! Way
Load More Replies...That's because we have surpassed Capitalism and become a Corporatocracy that is in danger of becoming a theocratic autocracy/dictatorship.
Theocratic? God's got nothing to do with this one. Their greed is their own.
Load More Replies...Slavery never ended. It shifted who paid for bare necessities --- the modern worker slave.
Been working on that but it's not an easy task. Any suggestions?
Load More Replies...Rick pointed out that on the other end of the scale from capitalism you have social democracy, aka modern socialism. At its core, the system differs from capitalism by taxing citizens more.
"However, in return, citizens are given services such as free and (easily) accessible healthcare, child care, social welfare, etc. Conversely, highly capitalistic societies charge for these services, making it incredibly challenging for the poor," Rick told Bored Panda.
English Royalty took it seriously. Queen Elizabeth's third child Andrew has lost a lot of status, had his name removed from a lot of organizations, and has basically been sent to his room and told to stay there by his mother.
She's the queen of a country that once ruled half the world...she ain't taking no s**t
Load More Replies...Many countries introduced stronger anti-money-laundering laws after the release of the panama papers. Fatalism does not help.
American politicians are not trying to make our lives better. They're just looking to see who can exploit us the best.
That's because American and French revolutions indeed managed to inextricably link together the two concepts of indvidual freedom and private property. Which leads to the conclusion that you cannot expect social and political equality as long as you allow everyone to freely pursue their selfish dream, since some will win and others will lose. This is the essence of liberalism but you get it better if you call it "proprietarism". French economist Thomas Piketty has written some interesting stuff about this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_and_Ideology). And actually there's another way to see things, which on the contrary links individual freedom and social equality. See what Graeber and Wengrow tell about how ancient native American tribes conceived it in their awesome book The Dawn of everything (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dawn_of_Everything)... Ranting against capitalism is fine, but it's time we thinked about how to overcome this situation.
And how is universal healthcare a burden again?
Load More Replies...The whole "constant growth" model has ALWAYS seemed off and totally illogical to me, even when I first started working as a teenager. It's literally impossible for anything to grow always forever. Resources are finite.
Less population too. I guess birth controll might be part of healthcare though. Hah! Just realized it's a consumable that will decrease after it's increased!
You can drop your budget by 10% (military) and redirect it to healthcare like a normal country.
A banking and investment expert who wanted to remain anonymous because of the sensitive nature of his job explained to Bored Panda that capitalism disproportionately rewards individual incentive while punishing a lack of it.
"As someone acquires more capital, it—on average—becomes exponentially easier to acquire even more of it, which adds to extreme wealth inequality," he shared with us.
Lobbying and party donations should be totally scrapped. Each candidate should be awarded £x for their campaign paid for by the government. Whichever candidate is the most popular with the electorate should win. Isn't that what a fair and transparent election looks like? They will never do it though, because the political parties are hungry for cash and the corporations are hungry for political influence. It's all a big con.
lobbying is called "corruption" in africa. But if a white guy does it, it's just "lobbying".
Load More Replies...You only think you're picking between 2 guys. It's already been decided for you.
If I own my business (which I do) then I decide what I produce, when, how much, and at what profit, as long as the customer agrees to my price (or the value of my product). If the government tells me I have to change any of that, I am not free. Corporations have too much influence, I agree. But you are intentionally misleading what capitalism and free markets really provide for people.
Mainly when it's a Democrat in office. With Republicans it's always someone else's fault and therefore not their responsibility to try to fix. Well, at least nowadays. I don't remember it being this bad in the 60's and 70's.
That's because the last Republican president who actually took his Oath seriously, understood the dangers of corporate greed and corruption, warned of the dangers of the military-industrial complex, and was willing to make corporations pay their fair share was termed out in 1960. He was also notably Antifa.
Load More Replies...Weird how we had a presidential candidate campaigning about going to war with oil companies get elected and suddenly after oil prices started going up. Just random coincidence I guess
He doesn't choose the price of gas. He shuts down drilling and pipelines cutting off the supply without a reduction in demand. Of course the price goes higher. A 10-year-old could explain this to you (I've checked).
Or maybe it's the second largest oil supplier in the world having their exports shut down because they invaded a neighboring country. Nah, couldn't be that.
Load More Replies...Ohhhh that "you're lazy and want free stuff" argument pisses me off. I will litteraly spend an hour explaining how i worked my ass off and got ripped off and some idiot will spout that off at me. Do they have a stroke and just blank out the description of what i did to earn the thing I didn't get? It it just their automatic response as opposed to thinking? Are they just all trolls enjoying how much more pissed off i get when they dismiss my efforts?
They are that dumb. If we truly wanted to end this we'd just make rich sons and daughters undatable, so they have to date someone from their ranks ... with no mixing in of fresh genetic material, this eventually leads to incestual relationships throughout the entire class of wealth-hoarders, and they become too stupid to bribe the system.
Load More Replies...It's very interesting that a worker who wants a living wage or help from his society when he needs it is looked down upon as lazy, entitled and wanting things "for free," while it's been perfectly acceptable for board members to vote for more and more astronomical compensation for each other while not being condemned as greedy or acting entitled to undeserved rewards. And somehow I doubt their responsibilities have been becoming more and more astronomically difficult to match their ballooning pay.
Load More Replies..."It really bothers me when trillions in pension funds are wiped out only for a couple of bankers to get slapped on the wrist. Making sure that the costs of financial crises are borne by financial institutions that manufactured them (even if unintentionally), as opposed to transferring the burden to other members of society, would increase accountability,” he said.
I get the sentiment, but who pays the construction workers? And where does the money for those paychecks come from? This one is not all black and white. Of course scooping up real estate (especially after the housing crisis), evicting, renovating and renting out at an insane markup is despicable. But if someone invests his money to get an appartment to rent out for passive income/retirement safety, he's not necessarily a bad landlord.
Good landlords and good tenants are hard to find. I think both sides are so traumatized by past experiences that they all have these terrible expectations of each other. I did property management for a little bit and got stuck in the middle a lot.
Load More Replies...What's worse is some rich people buy houses, tons of houses, and leave them empty to force prices up.
Realistic view: Banks own the houses until the landlord pays it off.
And corporations dont want you to own anything, only rent it. Music, books, movies, your house, your appliances, your phone...
I disagree on that one. A tenant is not necessarily poor and a landlord not always rich. If a landlord provides housing, electricity, water and whatnot, it is not unfair of him to expect rent from his tenants. Also someone might choose living in a rented place over buying, because they want to be flexible and move to another place now and then.
I partially agree. Property taxes, maintenance (like re-roofing every so manny years), repairs, emergencies, insurance, etc... get pretty expensive, so renting for a flat amount each month might be much better. The problem is some companies are shameless in the profit they strangle out of people, and some landlords do not maintain or repair like they should.
Load More Replies...B******t. I am going to be a landlady in a few weeks. Why? Because I am rich and opress others? No. Because we move abroad and are renting our home to other family at a normal price. We are even repainting everything so they are happy. Some landlords (like banks with many buildings) are shitty. But most are normal people
Load More Replies...I've explored my creative potential despite poverty. I've written over ten books. I'm an illustrator. I'm a blacksmith. I'm a woodcarver and a carpenter. Nobody cares.
Greetings fellow creator. I bet people think they should have access to your books, art, music, time, etc. for "exposure" because they're just hobbies, too, eh?
Load More Replies...Yah. The shampoo one. Slightly different. Only slightly. Maybe this is their version of "if ___ , you miiight be a redneck". I mean, they aren't wrong...
Load More Replies...here's the thing: the energy spent doing jobs drains people of their creativity. wouldn't the world be boring without art? without gorgeously designed buildings? there's no way to be truly creative when you're in poverty. there's not enough freedom to pour your heart out for all to see. sure, a poor artist could draw on a piece of paper, but what if he wished to draw a large mural to lighten up his city? the dream is crushed
Load More Replies...The expert firmly believes that free markets have led to high standards of living that are “unparalleled in human history” and believes that the system works. However, instead of pure capitalism, he advocated for capitalism with “effective social programs.”
Meanwhile, he urged critics of capitalism to consider whether there are viable, practical alternatives. "Ask yourself—do you really want to help the poor, or do you simply hate people richer than you?"
capitalism is good at solving certain types of problems, whereas it generates a hole lot of other problems, and there are certain types of problems that it sucks at solving (climate change is one of them). I do not believe in unrestricted capitalism since it is basically a way for specialists to screw over the average joe. The world has become so complicated, that there is simply not enough resources to do a thourough analysis for every choice we have to make, and hence we have to rely on rules of thumb and simplifications in order to not become paralysed. Homo Economicus does not exist as anything outside the model of a capitalist, and that opens for all sorts of ways to hack the system in order to get an advantage. This is most often the case for issues, we have little experience with and only get a few costly tries to learn, and where the effects will only become visible down the line. Mortages or cigarets are examples of such an issues, where regulations produce a better result
15$ an hr is not a livable wage, your still struggling at 15$. More like 25$ an hr, if were gonna increase it let’s increase it to honestly reflect everyday expenses.
Maybe if we stop dumping animal waste in the water from farms, get the manufacturing plants to stop dumping waster in the water and in the air and, I dunno, stop stripping the Earth of every forest known to us..yeah..that would make a difference.
Why I don't understand when people say that twatwad is gonna save the planet ....how, exactly?
I know exactly who you mean by twatwad. Not only that but that twatwad is in it for his own greedy selfish ass not to make world better.
Load More Replies...Replacing every car with a horse will. Plus way more fun for commutes.
Imagine having enough money to end world hunger but instead you go off and play space man
That's already happening. Companies are profiting off of being climate woke and the renewable energy industry is drawing a lot of investment. It's not enough though, to truly make a difference we need degrowth which is absolutely never gonna happen, at least not in my lifetime.
We need to make degrowth a household concept. We should all be talking about it more!
Load More Replies...No..but the alpha female in wolf packs may take or kill the pups of a subordinate female. Sound familiar?
The concept of some labor being unskilled is weird. Everything a person can do involves some kind of skill.
However skilled artist often experience the opposite problem. People don't understand/ignore how much effort it has taken to aquire the abilities, and hence don't think it is worth paying for all the hours that has been invested in being good enough to produce something that they want (or for that matter how much work it takes to do a fully rendered drawing). Hence they think they can get a top quality piece of specific art produced dirt cheap, or pay with "exposure". Hint no landlord will accept the exposure that the artist get, and it won't pay his rent. Cooking a burger may not be a formal skill, but unskilled does not nessesarily mean useless or unknowledable, and often they can be really good at what they do, much better than the client himself would be if he had to perform the same task.
however we currently se a revolt against softerware companies overcharging for their products by competing freeware "clones". Despite those mainly being developing by volunteers in their spare time, some of them are actually really nice products of nearly the same quality as proffesional pendant. For start ups and hobbyist, this is a real blessing, as the professional versions are so expensive that they are impossible to get your hands on in a legal way.
Individual choices do not solve systemic problems
Load More Replies...That system is not centrist, it is quite right (politically speaking, not morally right).
Yeah..I remember hearing that argument in my economics class. I was being told that there weren't enough resources to feed everyone. Then I showed them a picture of a landfill with piles of lettuce, cabbage, and other food rotting. The only problem I see is giving people access to the food. Whether through affordability or just physically bringing it to them.
Pretending "nature" is tough and resources are scarce, so that it's only "natural" to fight over them and only a few will deserve to get them, has always been the basic strategy of rich people in power - to prevent society from organizing in a way that would equally and rationally produce and supply resources for everyone and make the rich's power irrelevant.
Load More Replies...You should not start a company. With the sorts of questions contained in your comment you seem like you'd f**k over your employees and there's enough of that, thanks.
Load More Replies...I don't think this person understands what communism really means. No wonder, he was educated in the capitalism utopia of the USA
Yet your sn is a very American condiment.....
Load More Replies...So the answer is to make a personal default on their mortgage and have tenants become homeless. Most "good" landlords just wanted the same extension on forgiveness of their mortgage. It was only the db investment corporations and wanna be flippers that wanted to be able to collect or evict.
A certain Corporate owned party (well, owned a lot more than the other one) found the idea of paying someone to stay home to better life for everyone abhorrent. "Pay people to do nothing? Heavens No! That's only for rich people"
How would that work in practice? At a minimum, people have to eat food. Does everyone have at least 3 weeks of food stocked up? How will those who don't get food if everyone is chilling at home? Would the government have to make sure people are staying home? How would they enforce it?
Guillotine is inappropriate. I would go for putting them in a below minimum wage job working with the public, zero hours contract, rented accommodation where the rent is enough to pay the landlord's mortgage. Oh, and a most unbecoming polyester uniform
I've always said that rich people need to live on and work at a minimum wage job for at least a year to see what the struggle is. Maybe walking a mile in someone else's shoes will get some action in the political offices.
Load More Replies...As much as I love the guillotine, I don't really see the point when scaphism is just so much more fun
You realize taxes go to everyone in the form of public projects, right? I’d rather have my money go to a cause that will benefit me later than have it go to some random stranger who just happened to have a daddy with an apartment complex and will not be investing that money in anyone but themselves.
Load More Replies...I think we learned that from Europe. I don't think Native Americans have the same ideals.
Some people on this website don't like to hear it, but there is a landlord crisis. Both individual and corporate landlords. They are the reason people can't afford to rent or buy houses. The truth is, if you make profit from the basic human right of having a safe place to live, you are immoral.
This is one where his take becomes too simplistic. Profit and interest, for instance, can be about hedging against risk. Without interest, literally no one would ever lend money - there'd be no point. You would risk default with no benefit to offset the risk. As long as some borrowers default, then some interest is necessary - the work being done is "the absorption of risk." Same for profit in *some* instances. Simple example: I'm a mechanic with one employee. They make a wage while I keep the profit left at the end of the month. If there is no profit, the employee still gets paid while I get nothing. He makes less if everything is good, but is not responsible for losses if they occur - less reward but also less risk. It's when we remove the risk that there's a breakdown - like with bailouts. If you keep the profits when it's good and the taxpayer bails out your losses, there's no risk, therefore there should be no rewards. 'Capitalism for profits, socialism for losses' = bad.
Plenty of religious teachings say it is immoral to charge interest. And yet, those groups somehow still lend money :O
Load More Replies...The problem is there is not a lot of daylight between these two things.
Load More Replies...Two commentors below say this is not capitalism it is US policy. Yes and no. I'd have to exhaustively go through each tweet above to show which is US-specific and which is generally applicable to capitalists, but here's an example: 1370472075...9697b1.jpg
I'm so sick of life-ing. Why don't we all just live in remote farms, and grow our own food, and only go out once a year? Wouldn't that be better?!
They would be mere Cluster B patients without continuous immense fuel from millions upon millions of hypnotized, addicted, easily groomed and manipulated, hopeless, helpless, buttoms-of-imbecillism-pressing sheeple with completely hijacked cognitions, sexuality, sanity, health, dignity and truly, everything. We live grand coda of humanity. The game is over for a while now. It doesn't take a genius to forsee what happens when a vehicle at impossible speed is about to make a sharp turn. Decades ago, some paid attention we entered narcissistic/psychopathic narrative. Car-free advocates were mocked as losers, living one with nature were called dirty hippies, free of credit cards folks were laughed at for having false believes about money, people who were pointing out how porn destroys human brain were called prudes, sane women were called boring and ugly, sane men were called simps, ppl who didn't like psychopathic artists, movies weirdos. Cluster Bs would be nobody without most of you.
Why are you bringing mental illness into this... you can just say they’re assholes
Load More Replies...A lot of platitudes and lack of reflection in all these posts. We must not forget that if there are "so wicked rich" it is because, in the first place, we buy, consume their products and we want more. It is easier to blame the rich than to question our own behavior and habits. And I am not saying that there are no abuses either, but let's avoid too Manichean visions...
I don't think you understand just how rich the "wicked rich" are.
Load More Replies...It's necessary while they are in a capitalist society.
Load More Replies...The problem is there is not a lot of daylight between these two things.
Load More Replies...Two commentors below say this is not capitalism it is US policy. Yes and no. I'd have to exhaustively go through each tweet above to show which is US-specific and which is generally applicable to capitalists, but here's an example: 1370472075...9697b1.jpg
I'm so sick of life-ing. Why don't we all just live in remote farms, and grow our own food, and only go out once a year? Wouldn't that be better?!
They would be mere Cluster B patients without continuous immense fuel from millions upon millions of hypnotized, addicted, easily groomed and manipulated, hopeless, helpless, buttoms-of-imbecillism-pressing sheeple with completely hijacked cognitions, sexuality, sanity, health, dignity and truly, everything. We live grand coda of humanity. The game is over for a while now. It doesn't take a genius to forsee what happens when a vehicle at impossible speed is about to make a sharp turn. Decades ago, some paid attention we entered narcissistic/psychopathic narrative. Car-free advocates were mocked as losers, living one with nature were called dirty hippies, free of credit cards folks were laughed at for having false believes about money, people who were pointing out how porn destroys human brain were called prudes, sane women were called boring and ugly, sane men were called simps, ppl who didn't like psychopathic artists, movies weirdos. Cluster Bs would be nobody without most of you.
Why are you bringing mental illness into this... you can just say they’re assholes
Load More Replies...A lot of platitudes and lack of reflection in all these posts. We must not forget that if there are "so wicked rich" it is because, in the first place, we buy, consume their products and we want more. It is easier to blame the rich than to question our own behavior and habits. And I am not saying that there are no abuses either, but let's avoid too Manichean visions...
I don't think you understand just how rich the "wicked rich" are.
Load More Replies...It's necessary while they are in a capitalist society.
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