Every workplace has its own (unspoken) rules, and you need to learn how to navigate them, especially in situations where personal and professional interests collide.
Last week, a young employee shared her story on r/AITAH about an incident during a business trip when she stepped in to help an intoxicated colleague, only to face backlash for her actions.
Apparently, even calling an ambulance after someone sustains a serious head injury can be seen as crossing the line if it risks jeopardizing their career.
As the years go by, we tend to get more stubborn
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This woman, for example, has a coworker who blames others for her drinking instead of taking responsibility for her own actions
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Sadly, this whole thing is indicative of a broader problem
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While not every similar story ends with a trip to the hospital, there are many more similar floating around.
However, a report from employment website Simply Hired discovered that well-behaved employees are usually low-level or junior staff members who earn less than $100,000 a year.
The more senior or high-paid an employee is, the more likely they are to misbehave on a work trip.
For instance, 25 percent of managers and supervisors admitted to spending company money on unapproved things, compared to 18 percent of more junior employees. Leadership also visited strip clubs (30% vs. 17%), used marijuana (30% vs. 21%), and got drunk at work events (34% vs. 27%) at far higher rates than the rest of their staff.
SimplyHired assume that managers may be more likely to commit these acts because they feel as though they are the ones in charge, with no one else above them to check their actions.
Also, they typically have to “wine and dine” clients or potential business partners more often than the rest of the employees, and may feel pressured to engage in such activities as part of the “deal-making” process.
Whatever the reason, management appears to be very good at getting away with their crimes—while 62% of people have seen their colleague get drunk during a work event, only 34% have reported seeing management do the same.
The lady should have realized that, sooner or later, if she continued going down that path, her secret would come out.
The woman said it’s been a real mess
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The OP isn't even the one who told the company supervisors that Deborah was drinking. The other guy......the one who said not to call the ambulance, he's the one who snitched on Deborah and got her fired. Calling the ambulance and getting her fired were two separate incidents. OP is definitely not the AH here.
That person is the actual snitch, not OP. Real pot calling the kettle black vibes there.
Load More Replies...I'm glad for this post. This should never be a discussion during an emergency but well before like this. This kind of thing happens and there's always 2 kinds of people. One side wants to hide the evidence and pretend nothing happened and the other side wants to get help and call those who can give it. There's only one right thing to do, the hard thing! Shouldn't matter if the whole world thinks you're an Ahole for doing it or if you can get in trouble. Get help for whatever victim(s) immediately. Worry about yourself later.
Op did the right thing. Deborah should lawyer up, the company might find it isn’t that easy to fire an employee who sustained a head injury during a work trip especially if others drank during the trip.
Ya I don't believe a company would fire her for falling while drunk for a second, unless she was actively doing that on a job site. But she's in sales.. the whole thing sounds fake. They want a room full of internet strangers to point out that snake coworker just hates her
Load More Replies...Pretty sure if you hit your head + it's bleeding, you need medical care.
If you hit your head and you're out for even a minute, you need medical care.
Load More Replies...She didn't get fired because OP called an ambulance for her head injury. She got fired because *somebody* went running to management and told them she only fell because she was drunk at a company event.
They still would have no evidence of her being drunk, that's hearsay. They only have evidence that she was drinking. She could've had a bad med reaction for all these idjits know
Load More Replies...Yes, I wouldn't be as worried about the blood as I would be about other possible head injuries.
Load More Replies...Not the AH at all. However the company can't just fire someone for getting pissed outside of work hours. Just because you're away at a function/meeting/whatever, doesn't mean you're on call for the full 24hrs. Were they getting paid for being away for all those hours? If she got pissed during out hours then it's her free time and she can be as drunk as she wants. If she was fired for being drunk on business time then everyone there should put in a claim to be paid for the entire duration of the trip.
Laws vary from state to state and country to country. When I travel for work, it's considered work the whole time I'm travelling---this is a good thing because if I'm injured or robbed, then I'm covered by worker's compensation, and I can also have some expenses like evening meals paid for. I don't have to work for any more hours than I usually would, but it does mean that I'm obliged to behave myself in the evenings and not put myself in a situation that could make things difficult for my employer..
Load More Replies...I am, by nature, not a litigious man. But call a mot********ing lawyer. Like now.
The idiot that suggested taking her back to the hotel and putting her to bed could easily have killed her. Ambulance was the correct decision. She got herself fired by behaving irresponsibly on a work outing, as by the sound of it, she would not have been fit for work the next day. She also wanted to drive her car in that state.
It is very much possible that Deborah had a history of drinking to excess at work functions, was probably already on probation with the bosses for it, and this was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. That’s what got her fired, and I hope she learns from it and cleans up her act. Her injury and OP calling an ambulance was not the problem. The other coworkers trying to cover for her, enabling her, is a problem. They were not doing her any favors, so aren’t the good guys here. Trying to just take her, with a head injury, back to her room and leave her there unattended could definitely have killed her. That’s not looking out for her, or doing her any favors, that’s risking her life. They may think they were her friends, but hell, with friends like that who needs enemies? So yes, OP—-who absolutely 100% did all the exact right things—-needs to report the toxic atmosphere those employees are creating as retaliation, because they’re in the wrong, not OP. I would think if Deborah has any sense left, she would agree with OP.
Not seeking medical care on a work trip and it leading to something worse like death would have been an even bigger liability on the company. I'd report that dude to HR.
Load More Replies...Deborah got herself fired. Sounds like the younger ones were concerned about their own skin if they were drinking too on a work trip (which is not a judgement everyone else seemed to drink responsibly)
The company aren't quite as much TA as I was expecting from the headline (I figured they fired someone for calling an ambulance), but yeah, as always, the company sucks.
If my company had a policy about drinking at work functions there would be nobody left to work
She didn't get fired for having a few drinks, she got fired for getting plastered.
Load More Replies...You are not. Head injuries are not to be trifled with. Would you have rather gone to a funeral? It's the company that sucks. I hope you quit.
1. OP absolutely handled the situation correctly, head injuries should always get checked out. 2. The sleep thing is a myth. You won't d*e if you sleep with a head injury, but in case you do get worse no-one will be able to tell, and you won't be able to tell anyone which can result in d*eath. It's also way easier for hospital staff to figure out how severe it is if they can talk to you and do tests while you're awake. So if you do get a head injury you should go get it checked out before sleeping, but you're unlikely to d*e from taking a nap. You may wake up with the worst headache of your life if you do though. TLDR: Get checked out if you sustain a head injury, even if it doesn't feel super serious, especially if you live alone.
Head injuries should always be attended to straight away, as in phoning for an ambulance then and there. They can be fatal, not always straight away. Then there's the long term impacts of them. Cognitive impairment, memory loss etc. The OP absolutely did do the right thing. Can't believe that he was called a "snake" for it.
Had a mate killed by a drunk one punch fight, he hit the deck and fractured his skull, two weeks in a coma and then dead. I can live with someone getting fired, I can’t live with someone dying due to my inactivity. The responsibility lies with the woman who chose to drink, then wanted to drive and then fell over drunk, it’s all hers to own.
So let's play this the other way. Op doesn't call ambulance, coworker dies....nope. not an a*****e, the other coworker (not injured) is.
The OP isn't even the one who told the company supervisors that Deborah was drinking. The other guy......the one who said not to call the ambulance, he's the one who snitched on Deborah and got her fired. Calling the ambulance and getting her fired were two separate incidents. OP is definitely not the AH here.
That person is the actual snitch, not OP. Real pot calling the kettle black vibes there.
Load More Replies...I'm glad for this post. This should never be a discussion during an emergency but well before like this. This kind of thing happens and there's always 2 kinds of people. One side wants to hide the evidence and pretend nothing happened and the other side wants to get help and call those who can give it. There's only one right thing to do, the hard thing! Shouldn't matter if the whole world thinks you're an Ahole for doing it or if you can get in trouble. Get help for whatever victim(s) immediately. Worry about yourself later.
Op did the right thing. Deborah should lawyer up, the company might find it isn’t that easy to fire an employee who sustained a head injury during a work trip especially if others drank during the trip.
Ya I don't believe a company would fire her for falling while drunk for a second, unless she was actively doing that on a job site. But she's in sales.. the whole thing sounds fake. They want a room full of internet strangers to point out that snake coworker just hates her
Load More Replies...Pretty sure if you hit your head + it's bleeding, you need medical care.
If you hit your head and you're out for even a minute, you need medical care.
Load More Replies...She didn't get fired because OP called an ambulance for her head injury. She got fired because *somebody* went running to management and told them she only fell because she was drunk at a company event.
They still would have no evidence of her being drunk, that's hearsay. They only have evidence that she was drinking. She could've had a bad med reaction for all these idjits know
Load More Replies...Yes, I wouldn't be as worried about the blood as I would be about other possible head injuries.
Load More Replies...Not the AH at all. However the company can't just fire someone for getting pissed outside of work hours. Just because you're away at a function/meeting/whatever, doesn't mean you're on call for the full 24hrs. Were they getting paid for being away for all those hours? If she got pissed during out hours then it's her free time and she can be as drunk as she wants. If she was fired for being drunk on business time then everyone there should put in a claim to be paid for the entire duration of the trip.
Laws vary from state to state and country to country. When I travel for work, it's considered work the whole time I'm travelling---this is a good thing because if I'm injured or robbed, then I'm covered by worker's compensation, and I can also have some expenses like evening meals paid for. I don't have to work for any more hours than I usually would, but it does mean that I'm obliged to behave myself in the evenings and not put myself in a situation that could make things difficult for my employer..
Load More Replies...I am, by nature, not a litigious man. But call a mot********ing lawyer. Like now.
The idiot that suggested taking her back to the hotel and putting her to bed could easily have killed her. Ambulance was the correct decision. She got herself fired by behaving irresponsibly on a work outing, as by the sound of it, she would not have been fit for work the next day. She also wanted to drive her car in that state.
It is very much possible that Deborah had a history of drinking to excess at work functions, was probably already on probation with the bosses for it, and this was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. That’s what got her fired, and I hope she learns from it and cleans up her act. Her injury and OP calling an ambulance was not the problem. The other coworkers trying to cover for her, enabling her, is a problem. They were not doing her any favors, so aren’t the good guys here. Trying to just take her, with a head injury, back to her room and leave her there unattended could definitely have killed her. That’s not looking out for her, or doing her any favors, that’s risking her life. They may think they were her friends, but hell, with friends like that who needs enemies? So yes, OP—-who absolutely 100% did all the exact right things—-needs to report the toxic atmosphere those employees are creating as retaliation, because they’re in the wrong, not OP. I would think if Deborah has any sense left, she would agree with OP.
Not seeking medical care on a work trip and it leading to something worse like death would have been an even bigger liability on the company. I'd report that dude to HR.
Load More Replies...Deborah got herself fired. Sounds like the younger ones were concerned about their own skin if they were drinking too on a work trip (which is not a judgement everyone else seemed to drink responsibly)
The company aren't quite as much TA as I was expecting from the headline (I figured they fired someone for calling an ambulance), but yeah, as always, the company sucks.
If my company had a policy about drinking at work functions there would be nobody left to work
She didn't get fired for having a few drinks, she got fired for getting plastered.
Load More Replies...You are not. Head injuries are not to be trifled with. Would you have rather gone to a funeral? It's the company that sucks. I hope you quit.
1. OP absolutely handled the situation correctly, head injuries should always get checked out. 2. The sleep thing is a myth. You won't d*e if you sleep with a head injury, but in case you do get worse no-one will be able to tell, and you won't be able to tell anyone which can result in d*eath. It's also way easier for hospital staff to figure out how severe it is if they can talk to you and do tests while you're awake. So if you do get a head injury you should go get it checked out before sleeping, but you're unlikely to d*e from taking a nap. You may wake up with the worst headache of your life if you do though. TLDR: Get checked out if you sustain a head injury, even if it doesn't feel super serious, especially if you live alone.
Head injuries should always be attended to straight away, as in phoning for an ambulance then and there. They can be fatal, not always straight away. Then there's the long term impacts of them. Cognitive impairment, memory loss etc. The OP absolutely did do the right thing. Can't believe that he was called a "snake" for it.
Had a mate killed by a drunk one punch fight, he hit the deck and fractured his skull, two weeks in a coma and then dead. I can live with someone getting fired, I can’t live with someone dying due to my inactivity. The responsibility lies with the woman who chose to drink, then wanted to drive and then fell over drunk, it’s all hers to own.
So let's play this the other way. Op doesn't call ambulance, coworker dies....nope. not an a*****e, the other coworker (not injured) is.
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