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“We Both Knew What They Did”: Students Deny Using AI, Teacher Finds A Clever Way To Expose Them
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“We Both Knew What They Did”: Students Deny Using AI, Teacher Finds A Clever Way To Expose Them

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Cheating among students isn’t exactly breaking news. In fact, surveys reveal that anywhere from 75% to 98% of college students admit to cheating in high school. Now, with AI tools at their disposal, it’s even easier to get away with—raising concerns among educators.

One English teacher, however, decided they weren’t going to be outsmarted. They came up with a clever plan to catch students using AI to complete their assignments and shared the details on Reddit.

Read all about it below!

AI tools have made it easier than ever for students to cheat on assignments

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But one English teacher decided they weren’t going to be outsmarted

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Cheating among students is high, but it hasn’t increased with ChatGPT, researchers say

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As ChatGPT nears its two-year anniversary, it’s clear that many people, including students, have come to rely on it as a daily tool. And while some use it to support their learning, others, naturally, use it to cheat—something that has left teachers, like the one in this Reddit story, frustrated.

A study from the Center for Democracy and Technology confirms that most teachers feel generative AI has made them more doubtful about whether students’ work is truly their own. However, Stanford education scholars Victor Lee and Denise Pope have found that, while cheating levels have been high for a long time, they haven’t actually increased with ChatGPT.

“We know from our research that when students do cheat, it’s typically for reasons that have very little to do with their access to technology,” explained Pope, a senior lecturer at Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE) and co-founder of the school reform nonprofit Challenge Success.

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According to Pope, cheating often occurs because students are struggling with the material and don’t have the support they need. “Maybe they have too much homework and not enough time to do it,” she said. “Or maybe assignments feel like pointless busywork. Many students tell us they’re overwhelmed by the pressure to achieve—they know cheating is wrong, but they don’t want to let their family down by bringing home a low grade.”

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At the same time, in the anonymous survey conducted by Pope and Lee, students revealed that they believe AI is okay to use if it only supports them with related tasks rather than doing all the work. “Many said they thought it should be acceptable for ‘starter’ purposes, like explaining a new concept or generating ideas for a paper,” shared Lee, associate professor at the GSE. “But the vast majority said that using a chatbot to write an entire paper should never be allowed.

“So this idea that students who’ve never cheated before are going to suddenly run amok and have AI write all of their papers appears unfounded,” he added.

Rather than imposing a strict ban on AI, the researchers encourage creating a learning environment where students feel respected and find value in their classes.

“Strategies to help students feel more engaged and valued are likely to be more effective than taking a hard line on AI, especially since we know AI is here to stay and can actually be a great tool to promote deeper engagement with learning,” said Pope.

Commenters praised the teacher and chimed in with their own ideas for tackling AI

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Others shared similar stories of how people are finding creative ways to handle ChatGPT

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I'm a Visual Editor at Bored Panda since 2017. I've searched through a multitude of images to create over 2000 diverse posts on a wide range of topics. I love memes, funny, and cute stuff, but I'm also into social issues topics. Despite my background in communication, my heart belongs to visual media, especially photography. When I'm not at my desk, you're likely to find me in the streets with my camera, checking out cool exhibitions, watching a movie at the cinema or just chilling with a coffee in a cozy place

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arthbach
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The teacher who instructed her class to include a duck, xylophone and hatstand in the story has my approval. Yes, these instructions were in white ink, but they were part of the instructions, and I'd include them. :o) They would be integral to the story, and if the teacher raised any complaints, I'd simply point out the place they were required elements (proving I had actually read the assignment).

arthbach
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was around 14, my English teacher told the class we were not allowed to use the word 'nice' in our writing. 'Nice' has many definitions; there's 14 listed in the online Oxford English Dictionary. For the rest of the term, I used 'nice' in every piece of homework, but choosing a different meaning each time. My teacher pulled me aside, and congratulated me on knowing so many definitions. She was going to award me a very rare privilege. I was allowed to use 'nice' in my writing from there on in. Naturally, I never again used 'nice' in any piece of work I submitted to her. As a child, I thought I had won. Now, ... I'm not so sure.

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Gwyn
Community Member
4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a TA for a community college psychology class once and one year at least 75% of the class turned in a very similar paper on anorexia. That wasn't the subject of the assignment. And I never found out why that particular paper was submitted by so many (this was 20 years ago so all I could guess was it was a previous students paper or a paper from another class they tried to get to do double duty as a paper in this class). It was SO stupid. I don't know what was worse, knowing so many people cheated or the fact that they were too dumb to realize that it would be caught when grading papers.

Ash
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, grading college essays, I was always annoyed that if they were going to cheat/plagiarize, why couldn't they at least do it WELL??

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G Bono
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was teaching, I went nuts if someone plagiarized because it was a complete waste of my time. I worked hard enough without having to grade papers that were unnecessary. This was before AI, but by typing one well written sentence into google, it would bring up any websites with it. Frequently, the geniuses would include the web address at the top of the page and that happened a lot.

T'Mar of Vulcan
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why we make the kids do any work that is for marks IN CLASS. That way they can't use AI at all.

Roger9er
Community Member
5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's always the same story, because people don't use the very specific instructions given to chat gpt when you want something original. You say: 'write a story as if you were a (journalist/copywriter/fantasy book writer/reporter/columnist), write it in everyday normal English, avoid words that might make it sound too much like an ai generated story, use not more than 500 words, etc. The more specific you are, the more it looks like something you wrote. Especially when you let it read something what is typically you. Instead, people just say 'write me a story'. And then Elara pops up.

Scott Rackley
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm old enough to remember blue books. Time for them to come back.

Upstaged75
Community Member
4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh geez! I hated those things. Although my college was unique in that we had self scheduled exams. There were official times and places set where you could take the exams, but you could take any of your exams from any class in whatever order you wanted to. We had a very strict honor code that everyone signed each year. And everyone took it seriously - so we could keep the privilege of self scheduled exams. There was even required language in case you took the exam for a certain class before someone else did. We were NOT allowed to tell anyone what the exam involved. We had to say "I'm glad it's over". :) I don't know if this would work at big schools, but mine was a very small single sex college with lots of long time traditions that everyone loved.

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Nelson Álvarez Sáez
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If in doubt, I just copy/paste the story into chatgpt and ask it if it's its creation or the student's.

Oleksandra Kyryliuk
BoredPanda Staff
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, this approach isn’t very reliable. ChatGPT often confuses other people’s work as its own

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Lyone Fein
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Former professor here. All of my writing assignments required students to turn in bibliographies, first drafts, etc. weeks before the final draft of the paper was turned in. If any of that prep work was missing they automatically lost a letter grade.

Adam Burnham
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BONUS: if 2 or more hand in the same story, accuse them of cheating by copying each other. they can either accept that punishment or admit to using AI.

Mimi Leonard
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a college English professor and have had to deal with Internet plagiarism for decades. My solution is to make all students write an in-class essay on the first or second day, and make copies of all the essays. That way you have a benchmark against which you can compare their later take-home assignments. You can reasonably prove the plagiarism.

Tammy
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man, this teacher is a human AI detector? She better clone herself.

Lost Panda
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The last comment "Smegton"... Red Dwarfer if I ever saw one. Love it.

Johnny Rodriguez
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had a biology teacher in high school - on his final he wrote the instructions on the blackboard and verbally said "read all of the instructions before starting your test". The instructions were about a page long, and about 3/4 of the way down the page was this line "If you put your name and date on this test and don't fill out any other information you can turn it in right now for 100% credit. But if you have filled out any other information/answers you must complete the test and have it graded." Only myself and one other student read all the instructions and turned in our tests about 5 minutes after the class started.

Jane
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never heard of a teacher giving an assignment (to do at home) where there are no steps involved... like an outline, first draft, etc... which would all be written (at least partially) in class. Unless it's in university.

Kamal Hasan
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Looks like the teacher found a cheat code to unlock 'AI detector mode'! Now students are sweating harder than the AI trying to generate original content!" 😆

Bill Galbreath
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it on the teacher to create assignments that include AI, and how to use it ethically and effectively. I am a teacher too, and I am more than just a “grader” and in the brave, new world, Machine Learning is part and parcel of our students soon-to-be professional life. If in doubt how to create such an assignment that is meaningful and relevant to the students and their learning, just ask ChatGPT! Seriously, there is a lot of good info for teachers on how to implement AI in the classroom without just trying to play cat-and-mouse with your students.

Joe Bloe
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Deliberately let student use AI?? If you only want them to give instruction to AI, ok, but if you want them to develop skill and think on their own, that's pretty bad... School isn't about memorizing information, it's about developing skill. You will never develop any skill if you rely onAI to do your work. Are you really a teacher, I doubt any teacher I know think like that.

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Pamacious
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why not run suspected AI work through a couple of AI detection tools? That should provide enough evidence to challenge the suspect submissions.

Amelia Jade
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4 days ago

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Amelia Jade
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4 days ago

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Show thyself
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just asked chatGPT to "tell me a story" - no Elara-tale, but one about an orange cat flying a rocket.

G Bono
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sister uses AI to grade papers and it even writes comments and suggestions. I used to be skeptical about it, but I am quickly becoming a fan.

Captain Grump
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to teach anthropology at a university. It was before the days of AI, but super easy for students to find essays on-line, or simply cut and paste from multiple sources. A lot of my peers relied on TurnItIn to screen for plagiarism, but I couldn't be arsed and instead made sure essay assignments had enough unique demands that it was easy to spot the cheaters. (I'd usually require a course specific lecture to be incorporated, plus a few assigned readings, and never repeated those in subsequent terms). I'm pretty ignorant about AI, but I wonder if an essay question with similarly esoteric demands wouldn't still work?

OneWithRatsAndKefir
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whenever we get told to not use AI in university (except for the times that we are) and that our lecturers know how to recognise AI writing, I always have a moment of worry that they will look at my AI-free work and go ‘ah, yeah, she’s a robot, no human writes like that’.

Robert Beveridge
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is a "specialized high school"? One of the comments used the phrase enough times to be annoying.

nicholas nolan
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It varies, but there are high schools that are centers for the arts, and others that are what used to be called vo-tech schools.

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Ionescu Popa
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5 days ago (edited)

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the poor kids have the least experience, so this, especially in its most extreme form of, write a story about your vacation, is kinda elitist. i wonder if the purpose of this is entirely didactic.

Natalie Bohrteller
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not elitist. You don't let them write a story without ever having taught how stories work and how they are written. Also it's pedagogical in a way that it teaches them to read the instructions properly and to simply not cheat.

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arthbach
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The teacher who instructed her class to include a duck, xylophone and hatstand in the story has my approval. Yes, these instructions were in white ink, but they were part of the instructions, and I'd include them. :o) They would be integral to the story, and if the teacher raised any complaints, I'd simply point out the place they were required elements (proving I had actually read the assignment).

arthbach
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was around 14, my English teacher told the class we were not allowed to use the word 'nice' in our writing. 'Nice' has many definitions; there's 14 listed in the online Oxford English Dictionary. For the rest of the term, I used 'nice' in every piece of homework, but choosing a different meaning each time. My teacher pulled me aside, and congratulated me on knowing so many definitions. She was going to award me a very rare privilege. I was allowed to use 'nice' in my writing from there on in. Naturally, I never again used 'nice' in any piece of work I submitted to her. As a child, I thought I had won. Now, ... I'm not so sure.

Load More Replies...
Gwyn
Community Member
4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was a TA for a community college psychology class once and one year at least 75% of the class turned in a very similar paper on anorexia. That wasn't the subject of the assignment. And I never found out why that particular paper was submitted by so many (this was 20 years ago so all I could guess was it was a previous students paper or a paper from another class they tried to get to do double duty as a paper in this class). It was SO stupid. I don't know what was worse, knowing so many people cheated or the fact that they were too dumb to realize that it would be caught when grading papers.

Ash
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, grading college essays, I was always annoyed that if they were going to cheat/plagiarize, why couldn't they at least do it WELL??

Load More Replies...
G Bono
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was teaching, I went nuts if someone plagiarized because it was a complete waste of my time. I worked hard enough without having to grade papers that were unnecessary. This was before AI, but by typing one well written sentence into google, it would bring up any websites with it. Frequently, the geniuses would include the web address at the top of the page and that happened a lot.

T'Mar of Vulcan
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why we make the kids do any work that is for marks IN CLASS. That way they can't use AI at all.

Roger9er
Community Member
5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's always the same story, because people don't use the very specific instructions given to chat gpt when you want something original. You say: 'write a story as if you were a (journalist/copywriter/fantasy book writer/reporter/columnist), write it in everyday normal English, avoid words that might make it sound too much like an ai generated story, use not more than 500 words, etc. The more specific you are, the more it looks like something you wrote. Especially when you let it read something what is typically you. Instead, people just say 'write me a story'. And then Elara pops up.

Scott Rackley
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm old enough to remember blue books. Time for them to come back.

Upstaged75
Community Member
4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh geez! I hated those things. Although my college was unique in that we had self scheduled exams. There were official times and places set where you could take the exams, but you could take any of your exams from any class in whatever order you wanted to. We had a very strict honor code that everyone signed each year. And everyone took it seriously - so we could keep the privilege of self scheduled exams. There was even required language in case you took the exam for a certain class before someone else did. We were NOT allowed to tell anyone what the exam involved. We had to say "I'm glad it's over". :) I don't know if this would work at big schools, but mine was a very small single sex college with lots of long time traditions that everyone loved.

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Nelson Álvarez Sáez
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If in doubt, I just copy/paste the story into chatgpt and ask it if it's its creation or the student's.

Oleksandra Kyryliuk
BoredPanda Staff
Verified Premium
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, this approach isn’t very reliable. ChatGPT often confuses other people’s work as its own

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Lyone Fein
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Former professor here. All of my writing assignments required students to turn in bibliographies, first drafts, etc. weeks before the final draft of the paper was turned in. If any of that prep work was missing they automatically lost a letter grade.

Adam Burnham
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BONUS: if 2 or more hand in the same story, accuse them of cheating by copying each other. they can either accept that punishment or admit to using AI.

Mimi Leonard
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a college English professor and have had to deal with Internet plagiarism for decades. My solution is to make all students write an in-class essay on the first or second day, and make copies of all the essays. That way you have a benchmark against which you can compare their later take-home assignments. You can reasonably prove the plagiarism.

Tammy
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man, this teacher is a human AI detector? She better clone herself.

Lost Panda
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The last comment "Smegton"... Red Dwarfer if I ever saw one. Love it.

Johnny Rodriguez
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had a biology teacher in high school - on his final he wrote the instructions on the blackboard and verbally said "read all of the instructions before starting your test". The instructions were about a page long, and about 3/4 of the way down the page was this line "If you put your name and date on this test and don't fill out any other information you can turn it in right now for 100% credit. But if you have filled out any other information/answers you must complete the test and have it graded." Only myself and one other student read all the instructions and turned in our tests about 5 minutes after the class started.

Jane
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never heard of a teacher giving an assignment (to do at home) where there are no steps involved... like an outline, first draft, etc... which would all be written (at least partially) in class. Unless it's in university.

Kamal Hasan
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Looks like the teacher found a cheat code to unlock 'AI detector mode'! Now students are sweating harder than the AI trying to generate original content!" 😆

Bill Galbreath
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it on the teacher to create assignments that include AI, and how to use it ethically and effectively. I am a teacher too, and I am more than just a “grader” and in the brave, new world, Machine Learning is part and parcel of our students soon-to-be professional life. If in doubt how to create such an assignment that is meaningful and relevant to the students and their learning, just ask ChatGPT! Seriously, there is a lot of good info for teachers on how to implement AI in the classroom without just trying to play cat-and-mouse with your students.

Joe Bloe
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Deliberately let student use AI?? If you only want them to give instruction to AI, ok, but if you want them to develop skill and think on their own, that's pretty bad... School isn't about memorizing information, it's about developing skill. You will never develop any skill if you rely onAI to do your work. Are you really a teacher, I doubt any teacher I know think like that.

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Pamacious
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why not run suspected AI work through a couple of AI detection tools? That should provide enough evidence to challenge the suspect submissions.

Amelia Jade
Community Member
4 days ago

This comment has been deleted.

Amelia Jade
Community Member
4 days ago

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Show thyself
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just asked chatGPT to "tell me a story" - no Elara-tale, but one about an orange cat flying a rocket.

G Bono
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sister uses AI to grade papers and it even writes comments and suggestions. I used to be skeptical about it, but I am quickly becoming a fan.

Captain Grump
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to teach anthropology at a university. It was before the days of AI, but super easy for students to find essays on-line, or simply cut and paste from multiple sources. A lot of my peers relied on TurnItIn to screen for plagiarism, but I couldn't be arsed and instead made sure essay assignments had enough unique demands that it was easy to spot the cheaters. (I'd usually require a course specific lecture to be incorporated, plus a few assigned readings, and never repeated those in subsequent terms). I'm pretty ignorant about AI, but I wonder if an essay question with similarly esoteric demands wouldn't still work?

OneWithRatsAndKefir
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whenever we get told to not use AI in university (except for the times that we are) and that our lecturers know how to recognise AI writing, I always have a moment of worry that they will look at my AI-free work and go ‘ah, yeah, she’s a robot, no human writes like that’.

Robert Beveridge
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is a "specialized high school"? One of the comments used the phrase enough times to be annoying.

nicholas nolan
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It varies, but there are high schools that are centers for the arts, and others that are what used to be called vo-tech schools.

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Ionescu Popa
Community Member
5 days ago (edited)

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

the poor kids have the least experience, so this, especially in its most extreme form of, write a story about your vacation, is kinda elitist. i wonder if the purpose of this is entirely didactic.

Natalie Bohrteller
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not elitist. You don't let them write a story without ever having taught how stories work and how they are written. Also it's pedagogical in a way that it teaches them to read the instructions properly and to simply not cheat.

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