If the subreddit were a kid, they’d probably be in the third grade by now: the community was founded back in 2012 and has been going strong ever since.

Obviously, it’s best to go through life with a strong sense of humor, but it doesn’t hide the fact that failing at your job can have a powerful negative impact on your mental (and even physical) wellbeing. We’re social animals, after all, and what others think of us impacts us (even if we sometimes like to pretend that it doesn’t).

One study from 2017 suggests that we shouldn’t fight against what we feel after failing. According to the researchers, if we want to improve as people and get better at our jobs, we should focus on our turbulent feelings after failing badly, not our thoughts.

On the other hand, trying to logically find reasons why you’re not at fault doesn’t seem to help us much to improve. In other words, letting ourselves feel bad about failing is, ironically, a positive and learning experience. While our brains try to come up with excuses for why our failures aren’t necessarily failures. Heart over mind, dear Pandas. Heart over mind.