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Times are constantly changing. In the majority of the world, women have way more opportunities than they did a century ago, and the technological advancements we've seen in recent decades are mind-blowing. But at the same time, saving up enough to purchase a home is nearly impossible for many young people today, even if their parents had no issues buying a house in their twenties. We all seem to be living in a completely different world than our grandparents had when they were young, but one of the best changes we’ve seen is a decreased tolerance for toxic behavior.

Redditors have been calling out the worst actions that they’ve heard people attempt to justify by noting how common they were in the past, so we’ve gathered some of their thoughts below. From tactics parents used to discipline their little ones to casually driving home after a few beers, be sure to upvote the behaviors that you’re glad have finally become stigmatized!

#1

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) I pointed out that the Mayan and Aztecs' child sacrifice practices weren't any less barbaric because they happened a long time ago, and I got downvoted to hell here.

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11 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup, mentioning atrocities commited outside of european cultures in a respectful way isn't well received on the internet.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) How many witches were burned at the stake during the salem witch trials?

None. There’s no such things as witches, they burned innocent girls and women. Awful.

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FreeTheUnicorn
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12 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one was burned at the stake in Salem. 19 hangings, one man pressed to death. More than 180 accused were not killed. Many were toetured. It's a stain on our history but so get your facts right.

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#3

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Open sexual harassment, unwanted touching, SA, etc against secretaries, female assistants, etc by their bosses. Woman were supposed to just grin and bear it.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Bull fighting in Spain.

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Mavis
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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The pic looks like a rodeo not bullfighting. Rodeo is also disgusting.

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Becky Samuel
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9 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People are so hung up on bullfighting because of the visible death that they forget the torture and death inflicted on animals at rodeos.

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WindySwede
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13 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

F*****g discussting! Edit, torturing an animal to death for fun/joy, tradition.. I eat meat but hate this!

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Sorry, but if you still eat meat, an animal is being tortured and killed in UOUR behalf. ( you but… they die). Please consider the same immense empathy you have for the animals in tidies and the bulls in arenas to the animals in farms, factories, etc.❤️

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Paul C.
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9 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is a rodeo. As far as bull fights go, if stupid bloody tourist stopped going the whole thing would struggle to pay for itself.

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4 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People try to justify bullfighting by saying it's a cultural tradition. No, it's nothing but animal cruelty. The practice needs to be banned in Spain.

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3 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember feeling really uncomfortable when my grandmother would watch it on the tv. The picadors would really set me off, I used to hide in another room so I couldn't even hear it.

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Karl
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4 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If a bull gores a matador or a spectator, then they all had it coming. If you are part of torturing an animal to death or watch it in the name of entertainment, then you deserve all the pain the poor animal can inflict.

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2 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Still a massive thing in Spain. Also if you think Bullfighting is bad, google what they do their hunting dogs to bring them luck.

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4 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here's a thought... Don't wound the bull first. Let the matador face a healthy, well -rested bull. 😉 Also, don't kíll the bull afterwards.

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4 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that they had their "reasons" back in the day, but there is no excuse to continue it just because its history. Now, there are some arenas that have replaced using javelins with velcro tips where the bulls do not get hurt. This I can see as a sport one the bull can absolutely win.

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#6

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Doctors going on duty for more than 24 hours straight.

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12 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know how it is in other countries, but here in the US there has been a long-standing culture of over-working healthcare professionals. It's nearly ubiquitous to see doctors and nurses working insane hours, and it makes absolutely no sense.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) The way some people treated pets. Leaving them outside. Hitting them.

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WindySwede
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14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Talking about shooting cats just to prove they are real men.. no you are not, you are covering up some inside insecurity and feel you have to prove you are a real man to cover it up! 🤨🤕

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#9

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Spousal r*pe. It was legal up until 1983 in Canada. It wasn’t until 1993 that it became illegal in ALL of the US; prior to that it was only illegal in 3 as of 1975. I’ve heard some men reminisce about the days when they didn’t need consent from their wives. I’ve even heard women condemn other women for having the “nerve” to ever deny their husbands sex. It’s disgusting.

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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

there is worse... in italy the raper could marry the victim and repair the crime he committed

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#10

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Definitely slavery, not just because it's a horrible thing to justify but also because people try to justify it *so often*.

One of the most popular lies in America is the lie that the so-called "founding fathers" can't be judged for owning slaves because that was accepted practice back then. In fact, the judge in the British Somerset case called slavery an "odious institution" in 1772: well before the US constitution was written. The abolition movement was very much in full swing in the anglosphere at the time. The Somerset ruling banned slavery in the British Isles in 1772. Canada banned slavery in 1793.

And yet Americans persist in pretending that slavery was widely accepted with no concerns at the time of the country's founding, just because they don't want to admit that the US founding fathers were bad people. They have their very own mythology, complete with heroes and villains, and they will not tolerate harsh criticism of those heroes.

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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There was also a major push to get abolition into the constitution, but the southern states threw such a hissy fit that the rest caved.

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#11

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Open misogyny and sexual harassment in the workplace. I’m a 64 yo professional woman and the behavior of some my male colleagues and superiors was horrible. And no one batted an eye.

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#12

Just yesterday i had someone try telling me they regretted taking the covid vaccine and that "back than no one took vaccines".

I replied with "and people got polio".

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) "My parents whipped my butt and screamed at me. I turned out fine."

Umm... no you didnt. You need therapy, boundaries, and a healthier friend group.

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#14

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Forced marriage.

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WindySwede
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14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An scientific education and sexual education should be mandatory for everyone, all over the world! Let go of old s**t!

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#15

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Adult musicians sleeping with puberty-aged groupies. Guarantee every single one of your faves did it or was in a band with someone who did.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Automatically needing to respect your elders (and anyone older than you) just because it's the 'right' thing to do, not because they deserve your respect or did anything to earn it, but just because.

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#17

Horrific mistreatment of disabled people. It’s still not great on a general global scale, but at least we don’t get left in the woods as infants or stuck in freak shows to entertain the masses.

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13 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And even just women who be "out of order"? Edit: like put in asylum for being anything her husband/dad didn't want to?

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) All forms of bullying. It looked cool from people in high school according to my classmates. Now some of my classmates were now gone due to bullying. It’s not cool.

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14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bullying was and is never cool. I really don't think anything has changed in this case, it's still just as common and bad as it used to be, just that a lot of it is done via modern tech rather than ust face to face these days.

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Gay jokes. Go watch movies from the 80's & 90's. Or just watch "Friends," there were cheap gay gags in basically every episode. .

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Marianne
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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

True! I was so normal. Also using the term "gay" as a demeaning word in all kinds of situations.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Ownership and the subservience of women. "Back in my day the women didn't vote or work, they waited on their knees for the husband to come home with a hot meal in one hand a strong drink in the other" along with a litany of other female slave fantasies men have of modern women.

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14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is also a thing in the bible, if someone hurt a women so she miscarriages, they are supposed to pay money to her spouse or otherwise her father. That is nothing in the line of being an independent individual!

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#21

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Throwing rocks at Ruby Bridges.

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8 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These people are still alive! This wasn't that long ago and even if it was, still wouldn't justify throwing rocks and insults at a child

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Genital mutilation of children.

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4 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"It's a cultural/religious thing." Maybe you need to take a step back and really pay attention to what you're saying.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) My grandma was telling us about some random stuff about her life as a kid, the usual, and then she dropped that her neighbor would give her a quarter to see her underwear? when she was like 5-6? wild s**t 

also cheating on your spouse .

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4 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The 25 cents for a little girls underwear peek is truly awful, but I love how "cheating on your spouse" was kind of added as an afterthought.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Listening to stories from older colleagues there is so much stuff that was considered standard practice that would give Health and Safety an aneurysm these days. S**t like handling asbestos with zero protective equipment, even after people started realizing how bad it was for your health! Or guys working with natural gas lighting up a ciggie on the job site and it being perfectly fine because "we're not smoking near where people are working with gas at the moment".

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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family are farmers. 20 years ago, a person would be ridiculed for wearing safety goggles or a face mask while harvesting potatoes. While on the machine, you're exposed to huge amounts of dust that gets into your face. I have asthma and couldn't stand it on dry days. Protective gear just wasn't an option.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Hitting a spouse. My favorite tv show of all time is “I Love Lucy” and I have such a hard time watching Ricky put Lucy over his knee. Makes my stomach turn.

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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if you watch italian comedy movies from 80s is full of what nowadays is considered open harassment. The men keeps bothering and insisting if the women says "no" because women was supposed to say no even if they wanted

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Smoking everywhere--even hospitals.

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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We were doing a good job of limiting smoking areas, but now vaping is taking its place with a vengeance. I regularly see (smell them first) people sneaking a vape inside restaurants. It's illegal and it ruins my meal out. Just selfish w4nkers.

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Hazing, overworking and basically bullying new employees. C**p like “it’s character building” or “well, I had to do it”. I think people perpetuate this nonsense because they are basically trying to get some sort of revenge.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) I take care of a 95 year old woman with dementia who had a black lab as a child. The dogs name was “n**ger”. She sometimes talks about her dog and calls it by name, and everyone reacts how you’d expect, and she always says, “He needed a name! A dog needs a name!”

Not sure if it quite fits this thread, but I was reminded of it so I shared.

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14 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, this one is a little out of place because although that term and the one it's derived from could have an insulting meaning if used in a certain context it was also commonly used in this way, perhaps much more outside the US, just because it means "black", ,with absolutely zero implied reference to people with that skin colour. Some people still get upset when they see "négro" used in languages like Spanish where that is literally all it means.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Maybe riding around in the open bed of a pickup truck all over town and highways when I was a kid in the 70s.

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#31

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Not back then, but in the present.

I have heard from a relative that pregnancies of indigenous children in my country are normal because it is "part of their culture".

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36 minutes ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The comments here are weird y’all can go look for yourself-but also, wtf? Kids shouldn’t be pregnant. Period.

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#32

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Cat calling. Honestly can’t remember a time it was okay, but I’m always confused when guys try to justify themselves with “it’s just a comment. It’s always been like this” when I (a woman) get upset. Like I know my a*s is amazing but keep it to yourself, you know?

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8 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Thank you for attending our wedding today, I knew Wayne was the one when he shouted ‘WHHHHHHOOOOOA B***H, TIDDIES ON FIRE’ out the window of a speeding car”

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#33

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Drinking and driving. Every adult over 60 wants me to understand why those were the good ol days.

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14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rubbish. I mean yes, is used to be a lot worse, i.e. more common, but you really won't find many people who would suggest that it was better back then as a result.

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#34

“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) "When I was starting out, our bosses abused us 10 times as badly as what you get pampered with, you don't know how good you got it".

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#35

Enforced poverty.

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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This has always been a popular policy amongst capitalists - without poor people, nobody would work for sh1t wages in their dangerous factories.

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#36

Lynching black people for failing to show the proper deference to a white man on the street.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) My friend quite seriously told me she didn’t understand the issue with Bill Cosby because quaaludes were all the rage and this is just how it used to be for women around men. Never thought I’d see myself storming out of a Los
Angeles McDonald’s in anger but sure enough it did indeed happen.

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13 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had to read that twice to confirm the friend was indeed a woman. Talk about brainwashed! (Spelling edit)

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Racism.

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7 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think I understand where Strings is coming from. When the CEO of Barilla pasta made a neg comment about including LGBT in their ads, I thought something along the lines of "thanks for letting me know where you stand so I can buy your competitor's product". It's not endorsing hate speech, but it's how we know we are dealing with @-holes.

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“What's The Worst Thing People Have Tried To Justify With ‘It Was Normal Back Then’?” (40 Answers) Physical abuse.

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