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Someday, my prince will come… Well, probably not. But according to the films I grew up on, I just need to wait a little longer! Or I might turn into an evil villain soon.

I love a good Disney movie as much as the next person, and there’s no doubt that some of them have incredible soundtracks. But once we grow up, we’re able to look at these stories a bit more critically. And it turns out that they don’t all have the best messages.

Redditors have recently been calling out Disney movies that convey questionable themes to kids, so we’ve gathered some of their valid critiques below. Keep reading to also find a conversation with the person who started this thread, and be sure to upvote the replies that you can’t help but agree with!

#1

“Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back I love the movie, but Mrs. Doubtfire.

The dad is and acts unhinged for no reason other than to play pity party. He throws a huge birthday bash that gets the cops called, property damage, and breaks a boundary with his wife. Apparently, he has a history of doing that so his wife is rightfully fed up with all of it AND having to clean up the mess/keep it together financially (because he quit another job due to his "morals").

The he gets hissy when he finds out his wife was completely serious in divorcing him. He gets more upset when he doesn't get joint custody (even though at the time, he had no job or decent place to live). He is motivated to get a place but doesn't bother cleaning it up for his children (you could argue the Chinese dinner scene is right after moving, but it is still s****y by the time the social worker comes).

He gets an absolute insane scheme of dressing up as a woman and lying to get close to them. Then sabotaging her dates with a nice man so he... can... win her back?? Exact revenge?

Meanwhile, the wife is trying to keep it together and take care of her kids (who are turned against her because dad is so fun and cool while she is a rule person). SHE buys the clothes. SHE buys the food and entertainment. SHE sets the school expectations, but she is a b***h for parenting?? For finding a guy who has his c**p together like an adult??

Then the kids find out and are on Dad's side because "dad is so fun and he does this insane c**p because he loves us!!!" But at no point does anyone say to him "why don't you... idk... work on your issues and clean your damn place??? Go to work and get some responsibility beyond party?"

He does get promoted (by luck) and gets caught. The judge rightfully condemns him. Dude is crazy. He was a step away from killing those kids and killing himself - that whole speech in the courtroom screams "I am mentally unstable." The mom feels bad (yeah, she made rude comments out of anger, but she DID HER PARENTING RIGHT) and gives him what he wants.

Moral of the story: act unhinged towards everyone and everyone will understand that you are right to be unhinged and give you stuff.

jfsindel , Walt Disney Pictures Report

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Susie Elle
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Almost all movies in the 90's and 00's had a 'nagging mom who doesn't know how to let up' and a 'cool but unhinged dad who knows how to have fun!' and as a kid you always side with dad, but as an adult you start to see that mom actually had a very valid point and if that's not reflective of everyday life I don't know what is.

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    #2

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Any movie which pushes marrying someone you just met.

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    #3

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back I have a running joke with my wife that Aladdin is about a young man who lies to and gaslights a woman, but she doesn't care because he has a cool car.

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    dremetrius
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, I'd tolerate a lot of s**t for access to a flying carpet. OTOH I wouldn't have bothered tolerating it for long, what with this total stranger who showed up out of nowhere that nobody cares about suddenly pops in to offer me a ride and now I have a fast, portable corpse disposal unit where I can drop a body literally anywhere in the world He doesn't even tell anyone else about it. And he clearly snuck in to see her, so nobody knows where he is or expects him back.

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    To find out how this thread started in the first place, we reached out to Reddit user Nebraskabychoice, who posed the question, "Which Disney movie has the worst message?"

    "I started the conversation because I felt that Disney movies had the reputation of just being good entertainment for kids, and I wanted to see what people's opinions were," they told Bored Panda. "Specifically, a bad message can be disguised with pretty visuals."

    #4

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Not sure if it still holds but for the longest time, all Disney hero’s had American accents and villains had foreign accents. Even when they were from the same culture. Remember kids - foreigners are scary.

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    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ain't that the truth. This isn't just a Disney trope though. Maybe it's a throwback to WWII but you see a character with a German accent, they the bad guy.

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    #5

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Live Action Mulan: Be born special and just be better than everyone else by default. That's the only way you can succeed as a woman.

    BladeSoul69:

    Someone correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the 2020 Mulan remake ruin the original message that a woman can be the same as a man with the same training by making her naturally gifted with Chi.

    No more hard work, you just have to be born special.

    shino4242 , Walt Disney Pictures Report

    #6

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back For me it's The Little Mermaid. Change everything about yourself for a guy? No thanks.

    SandStoneVox , Walt Disney Pictures Report

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    Magenta Blu
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For a guy who doesn't even have the slightest idea that you existed in the first place...

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    We were also curious to know which films the author believes share questionable messages.

    "I think the worst messages, unfortunately, can be found in the older movies. Racism in Song of the South or the Jim Crows in Dumbo are obvious, but even the superficiality of Snow White - saved by a prince because she is pretty - sends unfortunate messages," they shared. "Similarly, the live action Mulan remake removed the original good message of hard work and ingenuity."

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    Raya and the Last Dragon is another that many readers commented on, but Nebraskabychoice noted that they haven't seen it.

    #7

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back The Little Mermaid - an underage girl with body issues is trafficked by an older woman and objectified by an older man.

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    #8

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back The Lion King is my favorite movie about running away from your life's problems until you are old enough to k*ll your uncle.

    cperdue , Walt Disney Pictures Report

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    Susie Elle
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also "My uncle killed my dad!" Timon and Pumbaa: "Have you tried just not worrying about it?"

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    #9

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Cinderella.

    Poor woman with no hope in sight meets rich man, spends part of an evening dancing with him, neither of them have any idea who the other person really is, but when he finds her again, they are instantly married and just when the real story and character development could take place, that's the end, of course happily ever after.

    Boys: your goal is to be a wealthy provider, and then you'll be happy because you'll have a pretty woman...

    Girls: find a rich, charming man and he will take care of you and you'll be happy the rest of your life.

    And neither are going to do well in relationships if they internalize this message.

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    Magenta Blu
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who the hell cares about the dance and the glass shoe?? The disfuncional family is sickening! And blame the evil stepmother. Not any single kid will even try to accept dad's new wife because of this.

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    On the other hand, we wanted to know which Disney movies convey the best messages.

    "I enjoy the movies Mulan and Princess and the Frog," they shared. "[Their] messages show the value of honor, hard work and ingenuity. I also enjoy Beauty and the Beast because it shows how people can change and the value of kindness. My favorite Disney film remains The Lion King, but that is really just a retelling of Hamlet with stellar visuals and an amazing voice cast."

    #10

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back I'm going to make a very controversial pick and say "Inside Out". But with a heavy caveat. Only in regards to boys/men. The emotions of women when shown are complex and deep. The male counterparts were gag jokes and stereotypes.

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    Susie Elle
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I so agree, especially at the end where Riley bumps into a boy and his emotions are all ABORT MISSION ABORT MISSION GIRL GIRL GIRL, while she just shrugs, as if girls that age all have it figured out or can't be heavily interested in boys as well.

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    #11

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back They had to repeatedly assure people the message of The Hunchback of Notre Dame was not, "Be grateful for the pretty girl's friendship and step aside for your handsome friend, because that's clearly the best you can hope for."

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    TotallyNOTAFox
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't see how it would be better if they came together, the way it goes makes his character development so much better (he risks his life to save her despite there being no romantic reward at the end)

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    #12

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back "Wish", easily.

    copper-feather:

    I believe this movie would have worked better if they had tried to go with the message "Not every wish should be granted".
    Instead they went with the message "There are no bad wishes, only bad genies".

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    GhostlySnail (she/her)
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That movie was so sad to see. The animation was bland, none of the side characters (like the friends) were memorable or interesting, so the main character had no interesting interactions. The main character (what was her name again?) had a personality copy-and-pasted from pretty much every other princess, except she had no backstory or explanation for why she was the way she was. The king was like “I see how you care about those around you” but it never even showed how she fit into that community at all, and when she had her whole dramatic song about wanting something more, all that had been shown of her life was pretty much great. Also the villain was barely evil. It makes me sad because it could have been so much better as well, they just played it safe and didn’t include anything “bad”. I’m not a Disney hater, I love disney and wish they would do better.

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    As for what Nebraskabychoice thought of the replies to their post, they enjoyed most people's reasonings.

    However, they added that a lot of people missed the point of certain movies. "In Beauty and the Beast, there is no Stockholm Syndrome as we understand it. Rather, this movie is about the Beast learning and changing until he becomes loveable."

    "Similarly, The Princess and the Frog is not about Tiana's need for a rich boyfriend, but about her balancing her ambition with human connections," the author explained. "And similar to Beauty and the Beast, the prince is not loveable until he learns the value of work."

    #13

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back I'm not a fan of the end of Encanto, where the message seems to be forgive your narc Abuela even though she made everyone miserable.

    RedsChronicles , Walt Disney Pictures Report

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    #14

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Though it was my fav growing up, Sleeping Beauty should probably be on this list.

    Takeaway messages:

    A) The gifts the fairies are bestowing upon infant-Aurora are all superficial (until the last one). Being pretty > being smart, kind, healthy, etc

    B) It's a-ok for a dude to kiss an unconscious woman. In fact, it makes you a real man, a hero even.

    People_Blow , Walt Disney Pictures Report

    #15

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Sleeping Beauty for making it seem like the princess’s only role is to be rescued by a prince, which can feel pretty outdated.

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    Finally, Nebraskabychoice added, "I think first of all, these movies are meant to be entertaining. Disney did not create the message of Snow White but used pre-existing folk tales. But in the context of creating entertainment, I think it is important to be aware of what is being put into the world."

    #16

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Does Rise of Skywalker count?

    After Last Jedi set up a message of "It doesn't take being born special or being part of a certain bloodline to make a difference," Rise of Skywalker went "LOL NEVERMIND, ONLY THE SUPER SPECIAL PEOPLE BORN INTO THE SUPER SPECIAL FAMILIES CAN BE COOL, AND PEOPLE WILL ONLY LISTEN TO THE FAMOUS CELEBRITIES IF YOU NEED HELP!!!"

    God what a sh**show of a movie.

    TheBrianJ , Walt Disney Pictures Report

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    Magenta Blu
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, forget about learning journey and auto sacrifice for a great cause... Just born special and you automatically deserve everything because of your special breed, blood, and race. Great

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    #17

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back A lot of them are bad, but I've always struggled with The Princess and the Frog.... *Amazing* hard working woman, so close to achieving her dreams, has to learn to....calm down on her bad*ss work ethic to make room for a guy who hasn't worked a day in his life? Don't love it. I *expect* the classics to be awful. It's more jarring when the main character is fully competent and prepared to make her dreams come true without a man.

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    Susie Elle
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't she tell him so? That he's a freeloader who never did anything except chase girls and spend money, and that's what makes him step up and better himself? In the end, she DOES make her dreams come true without Naveen, he's just there on the sideline if I remember correctly.

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    #18

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Pinocchio. People think the message is “don’t lie,” but Pinocchio is punished for lying when he’s actually telling the truth as he understood it. Meanwhile, people are luring children, then trafficking them as slaves after turning them into donkeys. That guy doesn’t get punished, neither does the man who tries to abduct Pinocchio for his traveling puppet show. People won’t believe you and the world is filled with criminals who will exploit you and get away with it. That’s the message. Later, Pinocchio saves Gapeto from a fish, thereby proving his selflessness and the blue faire turn him real. The message there is clear. The only way you’ll be rewarded is to obey your parents even if you have no clue how the world works, and don’t expect anyone to guide you, especially not a useless cricket.

    OneHumanPeOple , Walt Disney Pictures Report

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    #19

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Not really a message, but Parent Trap was just creepy to me.

    A couple is married and the wife has twins. Then they get divorced soon after the births. Each gets custody of one child and move far apart from the other. Not only do the girls have zero contact with their other parent, they aren’t even told they have an identical twin sister.

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    Alewa
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That story is from a children's book of the 1930s, and the author (Erich Kästner) was a big advocates for children's rights.

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    #20

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Individually the messages of Wreck It Ralph and Wreck It Ralph 2 are fine. Together it's incoherent. Why does Ralph have to learn to accept his position in life but Vanelope get to live her dream in a different game? The two movies have diametrically opposing messages and it drives me insane.

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    Magenta Blu
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because Venelope is a princess. She DESERVES to get her dreams come true. Who cares about anyone else?

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    #21

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Everyone's going for the classics, here's a more recent one:

    Raya and the Last Dragon.

    You should have faith and trust everyone, even the woman who stabbed you in the back and has shown repeatedly that she cannot be trusted.

    MysteryGirlWhite:

    Raya was apparently "you have to learn to trust others", even though the movie has her being betrayed over and over again

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    BeesEelsAndPups
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think that was the message. The message was that everybody is governed by fear and distrust. Villains are not just evil people. They are normal people who happen to be on the other side of a dispute. In order to really understand the world, you have to recognize that about each other, and be able to see the world from the other person's perspective.

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    #22

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Tinkerbell in Peter Pan, what a mean girl bully.

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    Lost Penny
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She hangs out with Peter, who is an a*****e. I'd be surprised if she were kind & friendly.

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    #23

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Little Mermaid.

    She left her family and her world and sacrified too much for someone she didn't even know because he was handsome.

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    Lost Penny
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She was 15 (originally; she was 16 according to Disney). Acting the way she did was in her job description.

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    #24

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Beauty and the beast. Stockholm Syndrome at its finest.

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    glowworm2
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    3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's NOT Stockholm Syndrome though. Belle starts to genuinely like the Beast after he rescues her from the wolves--which he did because he was worried about her, not because she ran away. He also starts (unknowingly) changing for her because he genuinely cares about her. An abductor wouldn't do that. Also, Belle comes back to save him because she really did love him. She was also being blackmailed into something she didn't want from Gaston, but she still came back to save him afterwards.

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    #25

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Wasn't Cars 2 the one where the disabled were the villains?

    Lisija123:


    Yes, the "lemons" were demonized throughout the entire movie for using fossil fuel. Even though that's not their fault, that's just how their body works. They didn't choose to be born (built?) as lemons.

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    René Sauer
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    does Lisija123 think Lighting McQueen and Mater are electric or what?

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    #26

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Coco and Encanto tells you that your family will immediately and substantially change their negative behaviors if given logic information.

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    #27

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Hot take, but Encanto.

    People who are mistreating you are simply under pressure, misunderstood, and/or doing what they think is best for everyone. Redemption and forgiveness is always possible.

    As someone who has lived for far too long around families like this, I can tell you that Abuela's character arc was completely unrealistic and unbelievable. If they replaced Abuela with Mother Gothel from Tangled, it would be such a better movie.

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    #28

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Oliver and Company: The best way to free yourself of money payments is not to learn how to be better with handling money but to k*ll your creditor. You just gotta make it look circumstantial.

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    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a cartoon version of Oliver Twist and I have no problem with unaliving (love that BP censorship) predatory money lenders. Plus the Huey Lewis centered sound track slaps.

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    #29

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back I love, love, love Up, and think it has great messages about love, unlikely friendships and giving people a chance. But just lately, “scientists are the villains” didn’t do the world any favors. Also, trophy hunters were right there if they needed a villain who hunts the last rare bird.

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    StPaul9
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The villain of Up ceased to be a scientist. He keeps skulls of people of come by. He's become a hunter.

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    #30

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Blank Check.

    bruingrad84:

    Taught me to spend all my money fast before the authorities take it back…. The dumb And dumber philosophy.

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    SageHare37
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plus isn't this the one where a fully grown woman kisses him on the lips at the end? It's been a long time, but I thought it was disturbing.

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    #31

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Someone once pointed out that the lion king is a very pro monarchy authoritarian story but in the original the animation is so beautiful you can look past that. But in the remake you’re forced to realize what the story is like.

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    #32

    High school musical 2: be jealous of your friend whose hard work is paying off for them. Whine and b***h that he didn’t get to come to your cookout because he was being recruited by a college basketball team, and, as a group, put a lot of pressure on him to feel guilty. Be even more pissed off because someone you don’t like has connections, and he’s able to take advantage of those connections. Bring him down to your level!

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    Magenta Blu
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah. Just be mediocre so friends don't fell hurt for not being capable of hardworking

    #33

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Chicken Little.

    It effectively amounted to 'People will only believe you if you are popular and successful regardless of the truth.' That may have not been their *intended* message, but it's what it amounted too. Though so much of that was also having one of the worst dads in Disney history as a major character.

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    StPaul9
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    3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The tomboy, if upstart, villain gets brainwashed into being girly in a terrifying dark void-the aliens offer to change her back and- and is last seen been taken away as a 'perfect' girlfriend against her will by another character. You know, kid's film!

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    #34

    The actual message of Frozen is good, but the song Fixer-Upper stands out as something they really should have been cut in favor of more storytelling. Replace that song with a scene of Anna regaining her memories or at least learning the truth about her past from the trolls and suddenly the whole movie is a 10 instead of an 8.

    "Our son kind of sucks but you can fix him" is just a terrible song and it's played for laughs on purpose so take my ranting with a grain of salt.

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    Geekymummy
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know about this one. If you listen to all of the lyrics, it's basically saying that the negative things about him (and her in the end) are superficial and that people sometimes behave badly when they're sad or scared or stressed but if you support someone they can learn to become their best selves. They even say "We're not saying you can change him because people don't really change".

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    #35

    I think most Disney and Pixar movies promote extreme individualism over collectivism, which I’m not much of a fan of. Many also promote this fallacy of a “true self” and self actualization over the reality that our selves are mutable, complex and constantly changing. To be fair these points tend to be the default western philosophy, but I’d love to see a feel-good Disney movie that espouses the importance of social cohesion and the dangers of self-worship and extreme individualism.

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    Tara Noe
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cars. McQueen is a narcissist who learns other people and community matter

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    #36

    The disney movie about superheros and sidekicks, Sky High, is basically about class warfare and eugenics. "Youre either born a sidekick or a superhero" is kinda enough.

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    maswartz
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does this count because they actively point out by the end that it's wrong?

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    #37

    Worst literal message: The Fox & the Hound boiled down to, "It's cute if you want to be friends but let's face it, some differences are insurmountable and ultimately there's just less conflict with segregation, amirite? Let's just agree to like each other while being very, *very* segregated."

    Worst overall message: Tomorrowland (because it was f*****g incomprehensible).

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    Spencer's slave no longer
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WTAF? It's about a foxhound pup used to hunt foxes, making friends with a fox kit, wanting to be friends and keep each other safe. Making it about segregation is ludicrous. It's about kids making friends. That's it. End of.

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    I'm sorry in advance, I swear this is not a contrarian take; but the message in "Soul" always rubbed me the wrong way. It always seemed tantamount to a billionaire telling a homeless person "money doesn't buy happiness pal." I mean, it's a movie made by successful film makers and writers telling people who aren't able to accomplish their dreams often due to just s****y luck and circumstance to just be content with their lives. It's like the barber that fell into his job because he couldn't afford veterinary school but he's happy anyway because...he's just learned to accept his life and enjoy it...okay? I'm sure that's a comfort to people stuck working in jobs that they hate through no fault of their own consuming 90% of their lives.

    I get it's trying to say that everyone has a reason to live, even if it's just to spend every day eating pizza and collecting leaves or something innocuous like that. We find out that 22 doesn't feel she deserves to be alive because she isn't talented or special with a traditional "spark" and she learns that she doesn't need to be, to be given life, just being herself is enough. Joe learns that after he achieves his "dream" and lives his spark and feels empty and unfulfilled that it's not the be all and cure all for sadness and depression....

    Nevermind...I think I answered my own question...I believe I just might like this movie now...

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    Lost Penny
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone else got an impression that the author was stoned when they wrote this? Or is it just me...?

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    #39

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back Mr. Magoo. They got so much backlash from the blind/visually impaired community that they had to put a disclaimer at the beginning saying the character did not accurately represent people with poor eyesight.

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    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I forgot this one existed. I'm old enough to remember the original cartoons. I have no idea how anyone would think this would fly in the 21st century.

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    #40

    'Dumbo' sends an outdated and insensitive message about exploiting physical differences for entertainment.

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    tuzdayschild
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I watched Dumbo once as a kid and never wanted to see it again. So much meaness.

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    #41

    Inside out 2 was basically : You can treat your longtime friends like complete garbage to impress newer ones. And when you'll realize you f****d up and feel terrible they'll instantly run to comfort you and forget everything.

    And this by betraying them, publicly mocking them, and physically hurting one of them and not even checking to make sure they're fine afterwards. The movie was still visually beautiful but hard to get over how little consequences there was for Riley's behaviour.

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    #42

    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back The live action remake of The Jungle Book, human kids should just stay in the jungle.

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    R.A. Haley
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No movie has ever been as good as the Kipling stories. Not even the old, old, old one with Sabu.

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    “Which Disney Movie Has The Worst Message?”: 30 People Don’t Hold Back If you look at the original story behind Pinocchio and keep it in mind while watching, the moral is that Italians treat each other poorly at any given opportunity. .

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    #44

    Tomorrowland.

    The whole planet is going to burn/melt/freeze/drown but if we can convince random people with 'hope' to come join our cult, we can probably save it.

    Not physicists or engineers or anything like that. Final scene shows hotel cleaning staff, kids busking with guitars - that's who is going to save us from ecological disaster.

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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't see it that way. I saw it as, so long as media tells us that there is no hope, we won't do anything about it, because there's nothing we can do. But if we can get enough people motivated for change, then maybe we can still stop tragedy from happening. MY issue with the movie is that it's a techno-optimist fantasy. We will not technology our way out of this problem in time. We will need actual changes to our policies and the way we live our lives to make this happen.

    #45

    Distributed by Walt Disney Pictures, so I think it counts. The short, Boundin.

    I mean seriously... It's the sheep version of "just lay back and enjoy it."

    It's the grossest message I've seen. They're going to come out here, steal your dignity (And your property), and you need to just accept that and be happy about it!

    Eff that.

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    glowworm2
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw it as ignore how others think about yourself and embrace your flaws. The sheep was taught that being sheered shouldn't be an embaressment. Also, it was directed by Bud Lucky, he did a bunch of awesome Sesame Street songs!

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    #46

    Why is no one talking about Zootopia? The whole movie is about institutional racism and corrupt law enforcement. But they don't solve anything. In fact, at the end, the career criminal becomes a cop. While it is probably the most realistic Disney movie, the moral ends up being "Everybody sucks at least little bit so let's have a party.".

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    Turning Red is supposed to be a metaphor for Puberty but she literally starts selling her body at 13 years old and then her whole family condones her selling her body at the end so they can pay for the millions of dollars of damage they did to Toronto. I think this is obviously problematic and strongly outshines any points about family acceptance.

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    #48

    Song of the South.

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    The movie is actually set after the Civil War, in the Reconstruction era - presumably pre-1877 when the full-on Jim Crow era commenced. The ex-slaves are continuing to work as sharecroppers on their old plantation because they consider it their home, it's basically the only career open to them, and their strangely progressive ex-mistress apparently manages it justly.
    The kid protagonist is staying at his grandmother's plantation (and hearing Uncle Remus' tales) with his mother, because his father is editor of an apparently pro-Republican newspaper and is under threat of KKK violence.
    The movie definitely dances around the issues of slavery and race relations -- It doesn't broadly support the idea that "Slavery wasn't so bad", but also works hard to not step on any toes of 1946 white southern movie audiences who presumably largely bought into the "Lost Cause of the Confederacy" narrative. The sympathetic portrayal of the plantation-owning grandmother and her benevolent treatment of her former-slave sharecroppers is probably the most contentious thing about it.
    The ending has some possibly ambiguous overtones -- the protagonist apparently recovers from a bull attack after calling semi-consciously from his convalescent bed for his friend Uncle Remus to tell him another story. Once he's later up and walking with Remus and his other friends, they're joined by the animated characters from the tales -- possibly raising the question of whether he actually survived after all...

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    LonelyLittleLeafSheep
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Finally! Wondered when this one would make the list, as it's the most offensive, racist film Disney ever made.

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    #49

    I have to say, Monsters University sends a pretty disheartening message. The movie essentially tells us that no matter how hard you try, you can't always achieve your dreams. This is evident through Mike's journey. Despite his passion and relentless effort to become a scarer, he ultimately fails because he simply doesn't have the innate ability for it. Instead of promoting the idea that hard work and determination can help you achieve anything, the film suggests that some goals are just unattainable no matter how much effort you put in. While it's a dose of reality, it's not exactly the inspiring message I was hoping for from a family movie. I might have got it wrong tho.

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    Tara Noe
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His dream might have been to be a scarer, but he was failing to see what his true talent was as a leader. Most kids will aim for the well-known and popular career options, but somewhere along the way may realise, actually, I wanted to be a TikTok influencer but my favourite part of it all is lighting and sound, and I'm really good at it. I don't have to be a celebrity to excel or be happy.

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