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“Office’s Stairs Are See-Thru”: 29 Things That Make Offices Uncomfortable For Women
The average person spends about one third of their lifetime at work. So if there’s anything that makes you feel uncomfortable in your work environment, that can take a huge toll on you. It's not easy to do a great job when your fingers are numb from a freezing cold office, and your feet are constantly aching from being required to wear heels. There are plenty of things that can affect how "at home" you feel in the office, especially if you’re a woman…
Women have been detailing on Reddit all of the small things that can go a long way in making a workplace feel less hostile, and every CEO should be taking notes. From making parents’ lives easier to providing sanitary products in the restrooms, we’ve gathered the most spot-on responses down below. Keep reading to also find an interview with Miki Feldman Simon, founder of IamBackatWork, and be sure to upvote the replies you agree with.
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To gain more insight on this topic, we reached out to Miki Feldman Simon. Miki is an Executive Coach and the founder of IamBackatWork, which was created to empower people with practical advice, tools and skills to accelerate their personal and professional growth. Lucky for us, Miki was kind enough to have a chat with Bored Panda about the ways in which workplaces often prioritize the desires of men over the concerns and needs of women.
"We see this in simple things like office temperature, often set to be way too cold for women, or fun activities aimed towards men, like football games or social events held after office hours when women often need to be home to care for their kids," Miki shared. "Systemically, men are often given more opportunities for career advancement and higher salaries, while women face challenges such as gender-based discrimination, unequal pay, and a lack of support for family responsibilities."
#2
Eliminate sexist jokes from the workplace. Stop saying periods are disgusting and inappropriate when you’re a 35 year old male supervisor.
#3
My old job had a box of good-to-have stuff in ALL restrooms. They were unisex, so there was both tampons, pads, pantyliners, spray deodorant in two different fragrances ("male" and "female"), hairspray, dental floss sticks and such.
T'was a good thing.
Bender Bending Rodríguez 1 year ago
What am I missing here? Why would this make someone uncomfortable as title suggest? Is it because unisex bathrooms? Or is this just misplaced post for this collection?
"I always had extra layers at the office to account for freezing temperatures," Miki told Bored Panda. "As the only woman in the management team, I would often feel like an outsider when the discussion would revolve around sports. For years, I had to decline the drinks after work and go home to my kids. The men bonded and built deeper relationships. They all had kids at home too. It was their wives responsibility to be there for them."
#4
Make it easier for women to take sick time for reproductive health issues. I've dealt with fibroids for years now and it would've been nice if I felt comfortable enough on my worse days to take time off to rest.
Don't assign a woman the social tasks of the office unless she volunteers to. Not every woman wants to keep track of birthdays, bridal showers and baby showers.
Marie Dahme 1 year ago
Exactly. If a man has to deal with endometriosis or complex endometrial hyperplasia….then I will put a warm blankie on them, make a cup of tea and offer some Tylenol. Until then, be patient With us. Not to be gross but when a woman goes thru partial menopause for 18 months, then after a biopsy it starts up again. You can NOT leave your house. You need to be five feet from a restroom every hour all day long for at least a week. The body is shedding 18 months worth of very thick liver sized pieces of tissue all in the span of a week. It’s painful, gross and we don’t want to go thru it. And there are SO MANY other complex problems with our reproductive system that can and usually does go wrong. Many of us deal with this agony for years and sometimes our own husbands can’t quite grasp how frustratingly painful it can be. Let alone HR or our boss.
#5
Easy access to a bathroom. Meaning no asking for a key or having to ask people before going to the bathroom. Also a trash can right next to the toilet and maybe some emergency period products
When it comes to what workplaces should be doing to ensure that women feel comfortable, Miki says they should assess where they are not meeting women’s needs and where they are not providing equal opportunities. "They should prioritize diversity and inclusion initiatives, such as offering flexible work arrangements, providing equal pay for equal work, addressing gender-based discrimination and harassment, providing access to leadership and mentorship opportunities for women, and offering family-friendly policies such as parental leave and child care support," she told Bored Panda.
#6
If someone is talking down to your coworkers/employees for being a woman, support them.
I had a customer insult my knowledge because I'm a woman. So my male coworker bartender went to serve them. He played dumb to the questions, asked me and repeated the answer I gave him which I said loud enough for the person to hear came from my mouth first.
That gained all my love and respect because most places are like you're in customer service "deal with it". Here the customer isn't always right and they don't get to treat people like punching bags.
R Dennis 1 year ago (edited)
Had our IT department do it more than once. I was a new hire, but knew quite a bit about computers. We needed a tech to come out and repair a computer. The guy on the phone had the manager in tears. I took over the phone call and told him what was done and what we needed (I kind of went off on him) and he said they would send a tech. I slammed the phone in his ear without even saying goodbye... another time a different person with the same IT department asked MY BOSS if there was a male manager available. I told her she needed to report it. She was a very intimidating manager, but she refused to do it. I wish she had, those a******s deserved to be fired.
#7
This is dumb as hell but my office’s stairs are see-thru because I’m in billing for EnGiNeEriNg, so folks wearing dresses to go upstairs have to be clever about how they do it.
"It's essential for everyone to feel equally included in their work environment because it leads to greater job satisfaction, higher levels of employee engagement and productivity, and a more positive workplace culture overall," Miki added. "A workplace that values diversity and inclusion benefits everyone, not just women, by creating a more supportive and collaborative environment."
#8
There’s been stories of women being fired from their office jobs for refusing to wear make up or heels to work, which obviously has no effect on how they work
#9
Women in power putting down the rest of us and acting like snakes, this is not a competition, we dont want your place, we just want to get our coin without feeling the need to cry over a toxic environment other women create. We are in this together, its already hard to live in a mens world, why some women feel the need to make it harder.
Veronica Jean 1 year ago
Sadly, I truly believe this is less about pride and more that they had to be that way to get to that space, and it's hard to unlearn. Our office is women-owned so thankfully we don't have that, but we work with a lot of offices where it took years for the women we worked with to treat us as human, and almost always it was because the woman was in a male-dominant field. As we got to know them, you wouldn't believe some of the things they had been through. Now when a woman looks down on me It's so much easier to not take it personally. Doesn't make it ok, just makes it easier to look past.
"We all need to be invested in making a change and creating an environment that is just as welcoming to women as it is to men," Miki says. "In addition to workplace policies, it's essential for individuals to be aware of their own biases and to actively work to create a more inclusive workplace culture. Everyone can play a role in promoting diversity and inclusion by listening to diverse perspectives, respecting differences, and challenging stereotypes and biases."
If you'd like to learn more about Miki or gain some guidance for how to further your own career, be sure to visit IamBackatWork right here.
#10
I'm just going to be THAT PERSON: the best thing to make it inclusive is openness about and equality in regards with pay.
#11
If there is a dresscode, make it universal. Same rules for all.
#12
A clean place for pumping! Telling a lot woman she needs to pump in the bathroom stall definitely creates an unwelcome feeling.
Marie Dahme 1 year ago
And it’s unsanitary! How would they feel if they were diabetic and told that checking glucose levels and administer insulin should be done in the restroom?
#13
Well if the IT dept in the international company I work for, where every new employee has to go to get their laptop, could take down the calendars (plural) featuring naked women, that would be great (yea, i already filed a complaint, call me a stuck-up bi*ch)
Susanna Vesna 1 year ago
Easy solution - put up posters of your topless favourite male actors. Make them beer-bellied old dudes insecure! ;)
#14
Temperature in the office must be suitable for everybody. Very often women and their health suffer because the temperature in offices is set to accommodate the male body.
A period products dispenser in the ladies‘ toilets is always welcome.
Ceasing to treat women like informal secretaries would make a difference. No, Cassie doesn’t have to write the protocol to the meeting. Neither should Jenny be responsible with organizing the team building or office party. Samantha doesn’t have to gather the money for Chris‘ birthday present and spend her own personal time buying his gift on behalf of the team just because „she’s really good at it.“
Adam Belaire 1 year ago
IMO office temp should always be slightly cooler. It's more appropriate to put on layers than it is to take off layers. Err...so I'm told at least!
#15
Making things that actually fit.
I work construction. We're given protective gear and most of it is too big for the women on site, and all the while they tell you that wearing baggy clothing is dangerous. We're all given rain gear and they have sizes up to 4xl but they don't buy smalls, so mine doesn't fit. They don't order small gloves. They don't order small harnesses. They gave us all congratulatory jackets for reaching a particular milestone. Mine is too big.
It seems small but it turns into a nagging reminder that you don't belong and that "this place isn't made for you"
Just making sure that you have access to the right equipment goes miles and i think people will do a better job when they feel heard and respected. How can i expect to do a good job when my gloves don't even fit properly?
Kraneia The Dancing Dryad 1 year ago
I used to run a propane torch. We were given welding jackets for protection. The smallest size they had was XXL. I looked like a little girl wearing daddy's work clothes lol
#16
It’s all the behaviour of men so I don’t know how to change that but the small things I would love to see go, are:
- being called “love” “sweetheart” or “darling” by my older male co-workers
- being touched on the waist in order to get my attention rather than tapping my shoulder or calling my name
- male bosses casually referring to their “b***h” ex wives and their “whore” ex girlfriends to the other men in the room while I have to pretend I’m not there
- when a department that has a female boss or a mostly female team is doing something and it’s “the girls are doing their thing” but every other department is “the team working hard”.
- all the older women in work being mocked and told they’re “getting too old for this job” by men that aren’t that much younger than them
- everything to do with cleaning and tidiness is left for female colleagues, even if it isn’t their job.
- male colleagues coming to ask for advice and emotional support and to listen to their problems but never returning that effort or offering a real friendship. Basically being their free therapist. And if you don’t want to listen, you’re a “cold b***h”.
- when a woman is hard to work with or bad at her job, there’s a smugness amongst the men because they see it as evidence that women aren’t up for the higher positioned jobs.
- when a woman gets promoted, I have to hear all the men have conversations about how she only got it because she’s a woman
- when I make complaints about co-worker harassing me, I’m told to “talk it out” with them, as if I’m the one making a problem.
- co-workers that are old enough to be my dad, staring at my chest non stop and everyone defending him because “he’s a laugh”.
Marie Dahme 1 year ago
Oh my God, run from that toxic environment. It’s going to seriously affect your mental health.
#17
- Bins for tampons and pads by the toilets. That preferably also are sound proofed and not right to someone's office...
- I think most humans are unhappy in open offices. I know I would detest it.
Susanna Vesna 1 year ago (edited)
Why would you need to discard of your tampon ANYWHERE but a toilet? (P.S. By "toilet" I mean discarding it in a dustbin that is INSIDE a toilet/bathroom. NOT flushing it).
CV Vir 1 year ago
I think this is a language problem. The comment probably means “in the room where the toilet fixture is” which in American, is called “the bathroom” or “the restroom.” But it *sounds* like the comment is saying “in the actual porcelain fixture.” I don’t think that’s what they are advocating.
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Wintermute 1 year ago
To the second point, I work in an office and most people are perfectly happy to work here (maybe not their job or boss, but the environment). I came from blue collar labor in all settings, and I'd rather be here any day. The minor inconveniences of the office pale in comparison to the hard work in most non-office jobs. Remember, the dialogue of hating the office that we see in media is written by people who hated the office so much they flew to LA or NY and made a career complaining about it. They don't represent most of us.
Lena Flising 1 year ago
I have only worked in open offices, if by that you mean spaces where two or more people sit at separate desks in a lager area, with no doors inbetween. I'd hate to sit alone in a small space with a closed door all day.
PATTY HERBERT 1 year ago
Nice picture 🤢. Ya had to depict period blood to make sense of the wording, for sure. 🙄
#18
Flexible work schedules. Make it possible for a parent to leave at 4:30 to pick up their kids from school. And sick leave. Women are more likely than men to have to leave work to care for a sick child or parent. Don’t punish them for that, it’s society’s doing.
#19
Life outside the office is horrendously imbalanced for women. We do most of the housework and childcare.
My office is 100% work from home and 100% flexible hours. As long as you log all required hours within the pay period (2 weeks) and attend your client meetings you can work whenever you want.
The men are like, "neat" but the women are like, "thank you this makes a huge difference in my life."
#20
Decent parental leave policies make it more inclusive to women.
TotallyNOTaFox 1 year ago
We in Germany have generous parental leave policies for both parents. Either the mother can stay home for the whole time, split the time with the father or go to work while the father stays at home.
#21
Bigger toilets for women: normally in workplaces both toilets occupy an equal area. The thing is that women need more time on the toilet, as we have to deal with periods etc. Also, we can only use a WC, so, if we have the same space as in a men's toilet, inevitably less WCs are going to fit in the room. Probably it's sounds silly, so let me put a personal example: when I was in College, after some classes, it was very common for the women to take longer to get to the next class than men, as we almost always have to wait to use the toilet.
Also tampons etc in toilets, as someone commented, are a great idea.
And another silly idea: adapting spaces thinking on the different heights between men and women, in my job I'm the only one who needs a stool to reach certain tools, and some times I even need to ask for help. Now that I think about it, I need also a footrest in my desk due to the height of the table, as my feet don't touch the ground even in high heels lol
Also is fundamental to have a clear politic about sexual harassment, but that's another story.
Veronica Jean 1 year ago
The fact that you gave two great ideas and called them both silly speaks volumes of the problem. Your ideas are not silly, I think they are well thought through and great <3 Thank you for sharing
#22
A well-balanced number of men and women on all levels of hierarchy usually does the trick.
#23
When chairing meetings, have a way of ensuring that people who have something to contribute, will be heard when they do so.
It happens far too often that a woman or a new team member is cut off part way through expressing something, only for a more senior or male coworker to say the same thing later and get all of the credit for it. It’s rare that the person bringing it up later will hand the credit back; even rarer for someone to say “I’d like to hear more about what [original idea presenter] was saying earlier about [idea], would you mind?”
By doing this, you’re also fostering talent by making sure employees feel heard, and are recognized for what they contribute.
Miss Frankfurter 1 year ago
Put an offer out to everyone who is interested in participating in a special project. Don’t always give it to the same special group. When the new wing of the hospital was being built they wanted nurse input on design for patients and making our job easier. . No one even heard about that except for the same “special” group. I have a great deal of knowledge about designing things like that. Never heard about the request for a work group. When I looked at the computer blueprints AFTER (for emphasis) the addition was finished, I looked at it and oh no, this is not going to work. None of it! Well, when we toured the unit I was even more discouraged. Really not going to work! Everyone else was singing its praises. Until we started to work on the unit. Everything I saw that was wrong about the design came to fruition. Include everyone on a team. Women, men, different races, backgrounds etc. purposely look for that when putting it together. Open the meeting to all to contribute.
#24
Be actively inclusive of women in your space. I work in STEM and am often the only woman on the team. I am by default not included in informal social, team building things like grabbing lunch together, a drink after work etc. When someone doesn't look like to rest of you, it's important to actively include them.
It's not enough to not be excluding of them, you need to actively be inclusive of them.
wowbagger 1 year ago
This is a huge problem in some male-dominated fields. When I was a young academic, I'd watch my male co-workers get asked out for drinks or raquetball games or whatever by the older men in the department, and they'd get a lot of mentoring and one-on-one help with their research during these get-togethers. I wasn't ignored; I got invited to family dinners or group outings, but never to one-on-one things. I'd invite male co-workers to one-on-one things sometimes, but then their wives would express discomfort with it and the meetings would stop. I've never been so lonely in my life.
#25
Pumping room with a soft, comfortable chair, and easily accessible electrical outlets.
Better yet, onsite childcare who will bring your baby to you a few times a day to breastfeed.
#26
More inclusive:
* flexibility of work hours/sick time (so that those with bad periods, monthly migraines, etc can adapt work schedules accordingly)
More hostile:
* discouragement of open and honest discussions about salary and/or hourly wages and bonuses
Tracy Wallick 1 year ago
In the US, it's illegal to prevent workers from discussing their wages.
#27
My workplace is pretty good for this. Putting aside physical workplace issues, flexibility around childcare issues are a big thing. If a school age kid gets sick, allowing a parent to work from home so they can stay with them and other things like that help so much.
Stephanie Barr 1 year ago
I am beyond grateful for my employer who has been completely accommodating for my needs. More employers need to follow suit.
#28
Ask everyone, ideally through an anonymous survey, what they would like to see to make the office more inclusive. Sometimes individual offices have things you wouldn't see on some standard list.
2picklesinabun 1 year ago (edited)
At least in the U.S., don't expect much. Employers tend to do the minimum because they don't want to spend any more than necessary.
#29
Keep the temperature turned up a degree or two higher than the “normal”. Goes for heater and AC.
My last workplace was all men, no matter what I wore I got cold sitting at the computer all day. My nails would turn blue fairly often, especially after I ate. I eventually left that office bec I was cold all day, everyday, year in, year out, and the male coworkers just kept making it colder. It’s miserable, and I felt like all my energy went into trying to stay warm. I even brought a heating pad to work. I tried using a space heater for my feet but it made my male coworkers in the next cubicle too warm.
Room temps are often set to men’s comfort level in an office space, not women’s.
Benita Valdez 1 year ago (edited)
I posted about this above. I am a female who is not menopausal and find the 68F(20C) temp reasonable in an office; it's too warm for me actually. Not all women require higher Temps and not all men require lower Temps and you will never please everyone. I'm sorry but it's much easier to put extra clothes on than it is to take clothes off at work when you're already down to just a top and pants. I used to wear very light clothing and have a fan going in my cubicle; my new area is cooler for me and I crack a window sometimes. Honestly found temp is set with money saving in mind and not someone's personal preference
What do you think ?
Alecto76 1 year ago
This is just me, but don't bring babies to the office and get offend if I, a woman, am not enthusiastic about seeing your baby or am hiding in my office. I like you fine and I'm happy for you, but babies make me nervous. I don't know what to say about them - I'm not an expressive person, so the best you get is congrats on a nice baby. Its painfully awkward and I'd just rather not.
Freya the Wanderer 1 year ago
Too many women bring babies to the office because a) the U.S. has NO mandated maternity leave, and b) childcare is expensive AF.
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Admiralu 1 year ago
Employers not able to deny time off for childfree women or asking us to cover for parents. Just because you don't have kids doesn't mean you don't have family.
Sophia Athene 5 months ago
Why can't it just be an equal number of days off period? That way childless-by-choice women and men are not forced to make up for employees with children. If you want your days off to be mental health days, stay at home with your sick kid day, migraine day, menstruation issues day, your child's kindergarten graduation day, etc. It's a personal day that does not need to be justified. Therefore, no family days, just a personal day.
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Craig Reynolds 1 year ago
As far as being accommodating to parents, that should NEVER include the expectation for childless and or single coworkers to adjust their schedule, time off, alter their vacation plans, or do anything to accommodate a parent and their expense. Do not ask to donate their time off either. One person's life choices are not anyone else's to accommodate.
Becky Samuel 1 year ago
As another woman (not sure why you felt the need to specify), your comment is nonsense. When I entered the workplace in the 1980s the attitude was that removing nudie calendars would " never happen". But of course it did. The same could be said for the continuous low-level sexual assaults and harassment, name-calling against homosexual men, use of racial slurs etc. The subject of office temperatures is something that has been widely discussed because it is a genuine problem, and good building designers are now taking it into account much more on new builds, especially now that zonal heating is a preferred option because of the energy savings. Giving people a comfortable work environment is one of the easiest ways of increasing productivity and decreasing staff turnover, both of which are major costs to the company.
Load More Replies... Alecto76 1 year ago
This is just me, but don't bring babies to the office and get offend if I, a woman, am not enthusiastic about seeing your baby or am hiding in my office. I like you fine and I'm happy for you, but babies make me nervous. I don't know what to say about them - I'm not an expressive person, so the best you get is congrats on a nice baby. Its painfully awkward and I'd just rather not.
Freya the Wanderer 1 year ago
Too many women bring babies to the office because a) the U.S. has NO mandated maternity leave, and b) childcare is expensive AF.
Load More Replies... Admiralu 1 year ago
Employers not able to deny time off for childfree women or asking us to cover for parents. Just because you don't have kids doesn't mean you don't have family.
Sophia Athene 5 months ago
Why can't it just be an equal number of days off period? That way childless-by-choice women and men are not forced to make up for employees with children. If you want your days off to be mental health days, stay at home with your sick kid day, migraine day, menstruation issues day, your child's kindergarten graduation day, etc. It's a personal day that does not need to be justified. Therefore, no family days, just a personal day.
Load More Replies... Craig Reynolds 1 year ago
As far as being accommodating to parents, that should NEVER include the expectation for childless and or single coworkers to adjust their schedule, time off, alter their vacation plans, or do anything to accommodate a parent and their expense. Do not ask to donate their time off either. One person's life choices are not anyone else's to accommodate.
Becky Samuel 1 year ago
As another woman (not sure why you felt the need to specify), your comment is nonsense. When I entered the workplace in the 1980s the attitude was that removing nudie calendars would " never happen". But of course it did. The same could be said for the continuous low-level sexual assaults and harassment, name-calling against homosexual men, use of racial slurs etc. The subject of office temperatures is something that has been widely discussed because it is a genuine problem, and good building designers are now taking it into account much more on new builds, especially now that zonal heating is a preferred option because of the energy savings. Giving people a comfortable work environment is one of the easiest ways of increasing productivity and decreasing staff turnover, both of which are major costs to the company.
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