Women Are Calling Out 40 “Female Experiences” That Have Been Normalized By Society But Are In Fact Really Messed Up
Few things in our society ever get questioned. We get caught in its cogwheels in such a way that we don’t realize that our expectations, attitudes, and ideas about how things should be get distorted.
And when it comes to women, unwanted things and unpleasant experiences they have to go through are often so normalized, nobody makes a big deal out of it. You stop for a sec and wonder ‘how on earth did this happen?’
This exact discussion was sparked when one redditor asked women on Ask Reddit “What is something that women experience and is seen as 'normal' but is actually very wrong, and shouldn’t be as accepted as it is?” As you can imagine, women had a lot to say in that department and the responses started flowing in. Let’s see some of the most eye-opening ones right below.
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Being expected to be nice when a man is overstepping your boundaries. As soon as we express any discomfort we're made to feel we should be nice to them. Eg: it was only banter, lighten up, that sort of thing.
: He touched me. - May be he was joking? : No, he snatched my hand and rubbed it on his crotch. - Yes, but are you sure? He jokes all the time. : Our workplace policies says someone can not sexually harass, even as a joke. - Yes, but why take a joke so seriously? : You were not even there. - Yes, but he is a really nice guy, and never has done anything to me! : You are the manager, ofc he is not gonna do something to you. - Yeah, I am pretty sure he was joking.
Hubby's best friend kept patting my behind when we all gardening at our new home. After asking him several times to stop, I warned him I would tip a shovel full of soil on his head. He kept patting, but guess who was the worst person in the world when I carried out my threat?
I hope you threw seeds at him too and said "I hope you grow into something more worth while"
Load More Replies...To elaborate: Germans are shy. We take a long time to talk to someone. If we do, we would not antagonise. Second example is from Poland: at a Disco a guy said this to me: "excuse me, is it ok if I danced beside you?" (Note: not with me, but beside me). I was young and said no. He said ok and that was it. It's upbringing.
Load More Replies...if we feel offended we are offended. Any unsolicited attention is not on.
oh yes and then there is the comment we are tough or hard if we reject unwanted advances. Another tactic is to be accused of being a lesbian lol!
"You should smile more, I'm only telling you how nice your body is, don't be such a cold bitch, you're lucky to get this attention". As a straight man I can reel those off easily enough off the top of my head, you girls must have a long list of them. Disgusting.
THIS! Women have been taught to be polite so much that when we nicely tell guys that we are not interested they don't get it.
I've had to do this, it's frustrating because if THEY were in the same situation they wouldn't be nice about it. makes me want to scream
Absolutely this . I remember this well as a child growing upi. And being called miserable because I didn’t want them touching me
Downplaying how horrible periods can be. I've seen so many men act like women are being babies on their period and it's just enraging.
Wouldnt it be great if all men in the world had a day were they were on a period and could see how it feels?
Yes! I'm having mine right now and I feel like s**t. We have to stop telling women to 'stop begging for attention' or 'over exaggerating'.
Load More Replies...Yes... and my absolute favorite: "But [insert random other woman] doesnt have this kind of problem. SHE never complains/always goes to work/goes running and does sports during her period, therefore you are obviously just acting!"
Even worse when such an attitude comes from a fellow woman, just because she doesn't realise she's just lucky.
Load More Replies...I know when our daughter and my fiancée are due. I have a ready supply of chocolate, Ibuprofen and sanitary products on standby at all times. A few days in advance I set up the sofa with fluffy pillows and fluffy blankets/throws and make sure the TV remotes are on a table within arms reach
That's so great. They're very lucky :)
Load More Replies...To be honest, me too. But I used to experience some of those when I was young. Didn't forget the pain. Either way, it doesn't need to be necessarily menstrual pain, any other type of unbearable physical pain should be enough to empathise with anyone going through menstrual pain, really.
Load More Replies...I suffered with endometriosis for 35 years, and only experienced a complete lack of empathy. But boy, the pharmaceutical industry sure worked awfully hard (no pun intended) to come up with that little blue pill!
Yeah, a flu lands them on their back, but damned if they'll even try to understand period pain. And we have to endure it once a month for YEARS.
Well unless you let yourself be impregnated by one of those vile men.
Load More Replies...I am so lucky, my hubby gets it and doesn't trivialize my pain. Instead he is understanding and allows me space to deal with it. I wish more men could be like him and get it that this s**t hurts!!!!
my brother said that "women are able to handle periods because are bodies are made for them" ummm NO
As a endometriosis patient I have experienced incredible pain from my uterus and ovaries. I had an accident filled oife because I am clumsy: Broke my toe and arm, opened my head twice, broke my nose, fell out of a moving gold cart and got a lot of wounds, recovered from operations etc . I never had pain as intense as with some of my periods. The kind of pain that doesnt let you move and barely talk. That lasts 4 or 5 hours and its so intense that you would do anything to stop it.
I feel for you. When I was finally able to convince my doctor into a hysterectomy, it was the greatest point in my life. No more arranging my life around my period.
Load More Replies...Although I'm a guy ... I got to know what real pain is like after the effed up my gallbladder removal a bit. Still hurts every single day, sometimes being unbearable - and hardly anyone believes there's more to it than me just wanting to "get high". I know some meds can provide this, but being pain free is worth so much more, ... anyway, as I got to know a kind of pain (NOT only intensity) I wasn't aware does even exist when I was 29, I guess the default position on this is to believe whoever says he or she has pain - and as I don'T have a uterus, I cannot possibly know any about period pain firsthand. But I can refuse to not believe unless I have a reason to not believe.
No.
That's it.
The word no.
When a guy says no it's not usually questioned, they don't have to go into a long detailing as to why.
When a woman says no to pretty much anything they're either asked or they feel compelled to have to explain why their answer is no.
No is a complete sentence.
to be honest, men get that a lot too or don't dare to say no to start with, in the group pressure topics, where a no is sometimes overruled by others ... . But its a more wide issue for woman where they have to explain every single no, regardless of context or topic, frustrating.
"It happens to men too", "not all men", blah blah blah
Load More Replies...I said no. I do not need to explain my "no". It was "no". It mayve have been "no thanks", but it was NO.
I had to log in JUST TO COMMENT on this ... I went to the chicken a half block from my flat and asked for half a chicken, no rice no bread. The man serving said "The bread is so fluffy, you have to take one" I said "I wont eat it" he put on in my to go container anyway. He said "The rice is Egyptian, very good" I said, "I am sure it is but I wont eat it" he said "One spoonful" and put it in my container. BECAUSE HE IS A MAN AND HE KNOWS WHAT I NEED. I told my male co-worker this and said "if you went there and said no rice no bread, you would get NO RICE NO BREAD" my male co-worker said the guy was just trying to be nice........................ I. Will. Blow. This. Whole. Place. Up.
"When a guy says no it's not usually questioned". Wrong statement.
Someone asks if you want something you say no they give you it anyways ask them if they want something you KNOW they will say no to give them it anyways
"When a guy says no it's not usually questioned." This is simply not true. There are a lot of people questioning a "no" from a guy, including partners, friends, family, work-colleagues. If you mean an interaction by strangers or acquaintances, sure, it should be like that for everybody. On the other hand, some women say "no" just to see if the guy will try harder, so she can feel wanted. So it's not as easy for guys to decide "here I should try, there I should just buzz off".
any man makes unwanted advances he gets the message. no explanations. Just say no and that is it. .. the tactic that we must be lesbians or frigid if we dont want the guy, is laughable.
Dressing little girls in a way that makes it difficult for them to move around. Your 4-year-old should not miss out on valuable play because she doesn't want to mess up her clothes or hair. Her appearance should be the last freaking thing on her mind. It makes me so angry to see little girls having to sit on the sidelines while their brothers and male cousins play rambunctiously because their parents put them in a dress and expensive shoes.
This! It sets their expectations for their whole life, until they're trying to walk in a tight pencil skirt and high heels, and have no pockets.
We let our daughter choose her own outfit when she was a tot. She was never coordinated and always happy. I did ask her why and she said "My friends are not allowed to get dirty because their mommies and daddies say they look nice and don't want them to get dirty so they won't play in case they make a mess and I want to play" She was 5 at the time. Since that day 12 years ago I can't help notice that most kids dressed in their matching outfits are a lot less playful and a little less happier
Kids clothes should never be gendered. If it was up to me it wouldnt be legal to gender kids clothes or toys. They deserve to be treated equally.
THIS. Very few things need to be gendered, and not just for kids.
Load More Replies...THIS! I hate seeing these poor kids like this. It should not be allowed
Load More Replies...As a nanny, I let my 5 year old charge play outside in the dirt making mud pies. I was let go because I taught their 'perfect Cabbage Patch Baby' to do something besides sit polite and not get her dress wrinkled. They actually called her their 'perfect Cabbage Patch Baby"
Let that sequined dress get mud all over it. She’s four, how many more times is she gonna wear it anyway!
This is a life long problem for women...I'm expected to wear a dress to certain social situations...I don't look good in them and I can't dance well in a dress!!! Pants every time for me (60 y.o.w)
One of the reasons why I wont marry. I dont want to argue with my family non stop about why I wont be wearing a dress.
Load More Replies...It's not always the parents. Getting my 3yr old to not wear a dress and for the clothes to not be pink is a fight every day. (We don't ever hold her back from playing because of clothes though...)
Pressure to have kids. Lectures and being guilted if you don't want to. The weird idea some people push that motherhood needs to be the center of our lives.
Yeah, from such a young age, kids, especially girls, are expected to play at being parents and stuff. It just makes it seem as though their whole life revolves around having kids.
It´s not always like that. My daughter was absolutely keen on playing "mommy" when she was 3-5 years old. I was always telling her she can have a life first and see the world, but she wasn´t interested. I guess it is a bit a growing process. She´s 7 now and we have entered the "I love unicorns and horses"-phase, now her horses are the mommys. But you are right, the toy-industry is not very creative there, too.
Load More Replies...This one is HUGE!!! I have many female friends in their 40's that didn't have kids and to be honest I am so proud of them. They didn't bow down to society or family pressure. You should only have kids if you want them, not to check off some stupid box that is put there by your parents or society.
Basically you can't do it right here. Having kids and staying at home, having kids and going to work, having no kids... everything wrong. We should just stop giving f**ks about other people's opinions.
Its horrible when people keeps insisting in that you have kids and get angry, call you selfish or raise their voice if you dont want them. I am tired of being seen as a walking uterus.
Just tell them you are infertile. I am and nothing stops a conversation quicker than that! It happens all the time. "Do you have kids?" "No." "Why not?" "Because I am infertile." Enjoy the awkwardness as the person has no idea what to say next then runs away into traffic. You should try it!
Load More Replies...I hate when I’m asked if I have any children the response is always one of my these: “You’re still young”, “you still have time” or “what does your husband think?”. I’m 40 and have been married for 16 years- pretty sure we’re on the same page at this point! I can’t imagine how I’d feel if I did want kids and I was asked that....
This. I have never experienced this personally, but the amount of stories I hear or posts I see detailing how women should have children, or that their only reason for existence is to bear children, is appalling and downright insulting. Why can't I just have a happy life without having a screaming kid waking me up at any hour, getting next to zero sleep, not to mention the pregnancy itself. It all just sounds horrid and pointless to me. I decided at the ripe old age of 8 that I'd never have kids, and anything I learned about them/ pregnancy after just reinforced that decision.
I remember a man (an ex-work colleague) who got all serious and self-righteous over small talk during lunch on how bearing children is a woman's duty and bla bla bla. I told him to chill. His lack of empathy made me remind him that way of thinking just puts unnecessary stress, or something like that. His "friend" kind of tried to stand by my side, giving him hints about empathy. That guy didn't even realise a woman subject (me) was sitting there eating lunch with them.
Load More Replies...One of my business partners questioned me about this the other day and basically insinuated I didn’t need to make money for the future since I won’t have kids. I’m really freaked out by it, and questioning if I can trust him now.
You'd be hard pressed to find a single parent that thinks life is better after having kids
Or opposite... bashing people who want to be parents and have large families and/or traditional roles. It’s ok for a woman to want to live out a traditional mother role too. It’s a beautiful gift for many.
Medical discrimination. Not believing woman’s pain or symptoms or saying they are completely related to your monthly cycle/hormones.
And thinking of woman primarily by their reproductive capacity. Yes, doctor I came in for this rash but sure let’s answer your question on family planning and my birth control options.
Woman: has incredibly large rash all over her body Woman: *happens to be on period* Doctor: coincidence? I think not!
I hold an MD, don't practice, but the point is: Yeah. You're right. The default for about 75% of male doctors and about 50% of female doctors in practice will be: Ask about the uterus. B/c, y'know. Meanwhile, siz months later, your multiple sclerosis or lupus has gone undiagnosed and untreated.
Load More Replies...Like denying us sterilisation even if we need it for medical reasons because our hypothetical children are more important than us.
Yes, this... I'm 39 with severe endometriosis and in pre-menopause, we tried for years to have a child and it didn't work. But since my doctor knew that we tried (years ago), I can't get my uterus removed. Dude, I'm not having a kid at my age (it doesn't work), my only daughter is 18 and in college, I'm done, I've moved on.....
Load More Replies...I remember when I was 16 I went in to the ER with severe abdominal pain. I happened to be on my period at the time so the DR told me the pain was from that. As if I have no idea what my normal period pain feels like. I was sent home and later that night my Appendix exploded and I was rushed into surgery.
And the answer to alllll my medical problems is that I need to lose weight. I'm here for an ear infection, pretty sure it has nothing to do with the size of my butt.
My daughter has abnormal migraines. Every single time she's ended up in the ER for them, they insist on a pregnancy test. She's 29, not a scared teenager who is afraid their parent will find out they're having sex. She tells them it isn't possible that she's pregnant and they run the test anyway.
Having worked in an ER, I have to say that unfortunately sincere patients are treated unfairly because of the impressive number of patients who deny vehemently that they could be pregnant and then turn out to be. In my junior year I believed a young girl and did not do a preg test. She was back hours later with a potentially life-threatening bleeding. Since then, I prefer to have some patients angry at me for "not believing them" than not saving some others.
Load More Replies...I had a volvulus (where your intestines basically twist themselves shut) every 2-3 months for 5 years, but it always happened when I was on my period. So it was invariably dismissed as period cramps. One time it happened between periods, and then they tried to blame it on ovulation (I'm on the Pill, and they knew that). After much whining and sighing I had an X-ray that showed the blockage. I got told off because I'd waited more than 4 hours to go to A&E. I decided there was no possible reply to that, just agreed to the surgery. I haven't had any 'period cramps like that' since. Gee, I wonder why ...
Reaching emergency room after fainting and hitting my head on marble floor, on my 1st period day. Nurse: any chance to be pregnant?! I don't know, you tell me, I just told you, my period started 45 minutes ago. Also I'm hipotensive, my pulse was 7 when checked again in emergency room. Same nurse after seeing my pulse dropping to 7 and shaking like a leaf in the wind: Are you sure you hit ur head on the marble floor, and you're not a victim of domestic violence?! I don't know, let me be on my own, to see if I can stand on my own two feet, if you don't believe me fainting🤦🏻♀️
same thing if you're female and fat - i had an EYE injury - a wound. in my eye. Dr.: Lets talk about your obesity. Me: if there is not FAT oozing out of my EYE lets NOT, lets talk about eye wounds!
I had some pain in my arms and legs and a doctor told me that it was because I had too much weight on me. Turns out I have some spinal issues. I have a bone spur in my neck and my tailbone is turned inward.
"When a boy is mean to you, that means he likes you..."
JUST NO!!! Anyone that truly loves you will not hurt you mentally, physically, or verbally. EVER!!! They tell you this when you're young to prepare your for a dirtbag husband in the future and some women never get the common sense to see that it's actually a bully!
I was berated this during my childhood and I made a slideshow presentation to show my parents that this was really messed up. That it leads women to falling for abusive men/relationships and more. Guess what happened. :) I got grounded, and wasn't allowed to go outside. I had to change schools because, "Your current school has broken children teaching you these things." And people wonder why I haven't come out to them yet.
I absolutely HATE when a girl is told this. "Teacher, Billy wont stop hitting me" "Oh, its because he likes you." Disgusting. My 6 year old daughter has a boy that bullies her all the time in school, I told her it is not ok, and no body has any right to put their hands on her. And, she should tell a grown up.
My husband is super nice and always has been. When I was young and he was my boyfriend other persons asked me what I wanted with such a soft guy. "a man has to be an asshole" is what I heard often. And surpriseall those women married assholes and found out (surprise!) that tgey are assholes- even to their kids. Some of them hit, some cheated. Tge worst was a guy that left my friend while their baby was 2 weaks old for his secretary. And me and my husband are together nowfor 18 years. Still happy and he is a wonderful father and husband. And tge same women from before tell me now "your husband is such a good guy. You are so Lucky!
I've posted this before but: when my daughter was in 1st grade a little boy kept picking on her, not just in class, but on the playground as well. She told the teachers, repeatedly, & I complained to the principal. It went on for a while with no resolution. And I also heard, "Oh, he's got a little crush on her". NO - this little prick is harassing my child. I'd finally had enough and I taught her some self defense moves. I told her, "the next time he picks on you, you kick him as hard as you can in the balls". She did. He dropped like a stone & HEY! we finally got someone's attention. They wanted to suspend her, until I brought the file with all of my call logs, emails & personal documentation to the meeting. The principal had never even DISCUSSED the problem with this boy's parents. I made it very clear that I'd be happy to call the police and have him charged with sexual harassment. She went back to class & he got moved to another school.
Don't run away, stand up for yourself, don't show fear, there I nothing he can do, because you are stronger.
Load More Replies...I promised to never, ever tell my daughter this horrid lie. She grew up knowing better.
I know way too many women who think it's normal to have to do most of the housework and childcare, plus the mental and emotional load of household management, even if they also have an outside job. Also to manage their husbands as if they are children who can't be expected to remember to make appointments or buy their own clothes or things for the children or holidays or take care of menial tasks without reminders and help.
Women DO the housework and childcare while men HELP. This approach needs to change :/
Honestly, this was an experiment I tried last year. Normally, I have to tell the kids and husband to help - and they do - but they have to asked.. But this time I did nothing beyond making sure the bathrooms and kitchen were clean. No one cared nothing was put away, vaccummed, dusted, picked up... until personally, I couldn't take it anymore... we would live in filth and they would be okay with it. Sigh.
Load More Replies...I (f) once lived in a house with three male roommates. One of them was very tidy and clean. The other two weren't. The clean one wanted us to put together a chore system and we were all amenable to the idea. However, they all expected that it was going to be my job to remind people and make sure everything was done. They were surprised that I refused. Aside from resenting that they were basically appointing me house manager because I was a woman, I knew this was going to end up with me having to be Mean Mommy. Even the guy whose idea it was to make a chore system thought that it should be my job to make them all behave.
this is how my house is run. my mother and my brother and I do everything around the house, but undoubtedly my mother does the most. my father "helps" by ordering my brother and I to do all of the things he should be doing. He never thanks my mother, and when he does something menial, like put his can of carbonated water in the recycling instead of waiting for my mother to do it, he expects to be congratulated for it like he just saved the world. He wont let my mother get a job, but then reminds her that "she doesn't make the money in the house, so she has to make up for that somehow." this is what my family has had to deal with since I was born. It's incredibly damaging. help put an end to this please
I am sorry that you have to witness this and, if you don't mind my saying so, your dad's way of looking at things is a bit off.
Load More Replies...I work 60-70 hours a week and my wife works at her job 2 shifts a week. We have three kids. She does 90 percent of the house hold stuff because I simply do not have time. I make it a point to do the dishes and clean the kitchen every single night before I go to bed though so we have at least one task that she doesn't have to worry about. I also try to cook on the weekends as much as I can too.
So you are pulling your weight completely! And hopefully that works for you and your spouse.
Load More Replies...Woman: does the childcare 99% of the time Society: normal Man: cleans one diaper Society: omg he’s such a good father. You’re so lucky.
about a year ago i told my husband he would be responsible for his car payment and he nearly had a temper tantrum about it. he does do his own laundry, though. soon after we were married, he complained he didn't have any clean clothes and i asked him if he'd done any laundry. the look of confusion, and i believe he said, "huh?" he was 23 and didn't know which was the washer and which was the dryer. poor guy had to grow up fast around me.
Yep. I love my husband, but I just had to make a doctor's appointment for him. And when I teased him about not being able to order a pizza, he had the unmitigated gall to say men won't do that so women can feel like they're "shopping" without spending too much money. I have a full time job. I'm still not talking to him.
Don't make appointments or order him food again, simple. He's an adult, not your child
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Being expected to let men have sex with them but also shaming any woman who also shows a modicum of Libido. It's almost like society wants women to have sex but hate it at the same time and it's gross
saw a funny thing recently. "how come lesbian women can control themselves when they see a woman in a crop top, but straight men can't?" food for thought
Load More Replies...I hate this double standard. I also hate that there seems a misconception that a woman's Vagina gets loose the more sex she has, when the vagina is designed to stretch to let a baby out so isn't going to be affected by the size of a penis! So not only are (some) men not aware of basic female anatomy but they use this falsehood to shame women. I also hate the way a woman's virginity is prized; some men only want to sleep with virgins because they don't like the idea of another man having been there before them, and some see virginity as a way a girl proves she's trustworthy or marriage material. And as for the whole checking for an in tact hymen in a woman as a sign of virginity is crazy as something as simple as riding a bike can break the hymen! Stop shaming women and judging women in this way!
my husband once said he kind of felt like women who had children by more than , maybe???, 2 men, were 'slutty'. my husband found out in his 40s that he has 5 other siblings, by 5 women other than his mother, bc his dad ran around a lot. i informed him that based on HIS logic, his dad wasn't a stud but really, really slutty and he needed to rethink his sexist views.
When I was around 30, 2 friends (a couple) and I came up with the topic of, who had how many partners. So, at some point I was asked, how many I have had. I asked what kind of partner is meant ... relationship or just sex? The guy was shocked, his girlfriend laughed. He said I was a total s**t, for having sex with guys ... "just like that". Before he met his girlfriend, he was the total player. I doubt he even knows exactly how many women he's had sex with. I just said, why I should count, or care ... when he certainly didn't. Same rules for everyone, right?
He sounds like a d**k. One of those 'ill s**g as many as i like but my future wife must be a virgin whos so, so pure and good' types.
Load More Replies...Oh let me tell you.... this right here!!! I cannot stand the double standard. I could go on for days about this!!! It drives me crazy!
So true, this whole prude or whore attitude is silly. There's nothing wrong with having a sex drive, that's a human thing, no matter your gender. There's also nothing wrong with not having a sex drive. Just let people be how they are
“Hey you! Woman. Put out, but don’t like it... but also tell me how great I am at sex”.
In public spaces, when men put their hands on you so they can pass by. It's common in clubs and bars, but happens elsewhere, too. Funny thing is, a guy can't get past you without putting his hands on your waist. But, he can navigate a wall of men totally touch free. So creepy and intrusive
When working in bars I'd do this back to guys I saw do it to people, call them "love" as well. See how they like it.
In my culture, its completely acceptable, and even normal for people to touch each other's back when passing by one another. Now, I said back, like shoulder blades, not butt, not the waist, not legs, not anything below the small of one's back. it's just a polite way of slipping past someone without looking like you're humping them on the way past. But anyone touching someone in the no-no area is simply un-cool. Gentlemen, fellow ladies, please be respectful
And there's a difference when you do it to everyone. In the U.S. though, there are LOTS of men who have no trouble manhandling women to "scoot around them" but would NEVER lay a hand on a man for the same reason. Imo, that's the issue. There's zero reason it should be "acceptable" for one sex and not the other. At that point, it's just harassment.
Load More Replies...Men don’t care about bumping into other men. As long as hands aren’t going for the boobs or butt, I’m not offended when someone may touch my shoulder so we don’t collide and spill drinks.
True, but I think the author was referencing when men would touch woman on the small of their back/side of the waist. They rarely touch within the safe touch point.
Load More Replies...A few years back a guy kept doing this to me in a club. When he did it again I forcefully shoved him away from me and said loudly "stop touching me, I dont know you!" We both got kicked out for "fighting" by security at 2am. Instead of hanging out alone on the dark street with the creep, I boosted it up the road to a gay bar. It was so not my night as within a few minutes I was calling a taxi for a similar situation, but this time it was a woman. I didnt feel like going clubbing for some time after that.
not to mention on crowded public transport.... I have rarely seen men touch women as they pass by though... Comments made on the street, yes.
I do this to guys as well though, I have never once been told it's made anyone uneasy, In a loud metal show if I need to get to the front I don't want to barge anyone so I will make myself known by a touch of the shoulder and a thumbs-up, men and women, never on the waist though, I wouldn't like another dude putting his hands around my wife's waist so i wouldn't do it to others.
This makes me angry. I've had people grazing their arms purposely through my tits when in the bar whilst grabbing their drinks.
Spaghetti strap tanktops on a hot summer day being "provocative".... And the high school dress code
Agree with the spaghetti strap comment but also agree with having a basic dress code at high schools
But take some time and read them. Most are grossly obviously sending the message that it's a girl's job to make sure the boys don't get "distracted." There are some decent, gender-neutral ones, but at least in the US they are rare. It's also pretty common for them to be slightly (or very) racist about what is considered an "appropriate" hairstyle.
Load More Replies...I think they mean the school dress code being very strict, and strictly enforced, for girls, and lackadaisical for boys. Just the whole "you're guilty of asking for it" vibe that supports. And the whole concept of sexual "provocation". As if boys just can't be expected to NOT sexually assault people, and it seems sometimes as if a lot of people are looking for literally any excuse to not punish boys committing sexual assault.
THIS! It's so annoying that boys can wear form fitting shorts above the knee and tank tops to school, but when a girl wears a spaghetti strap to school they're "distracting" guys.
American school dress codes punish girls for boys being unable to control themselves. I don't see how seeing someone's bra strap can cause a guy to become distracted. If a teenage boy gets distracted, it's because he allowed himself to get distracted. I am not saying that the girls should be allowed to walk around naked, I am just saying you need to put the responsibility where it belongs. On the boys who get distracted.
I find it a bit insulting when you see a picture of a woman who is really pretty and you find out that she’s a top scientist or engineer or a doctor, something very prestigious, and a person says “ Wow, She’s pretty, I wasn’t expecting that!” What, like are smart people usually butt ugly? pretty girls can’t be smart? Wtf! I feel like that’s really common and needs to end.
Dude, just because YOUR brain goes to mush every time you see a pretty girl doesnt mean HER brain is mush
Yeah, the entertainment industry has kind programmed us to think attractive people are stupid and smart people are ugly.
Excaot that in the case of women in media "ugly" means extremely pretty with glasses
Load More Replies...NASA has actually asked its female engineers to wear makeup on televised launches, etc., so that girls who are watching will be able to see that you can be smart and pretty at the same time. I don't know whether that's awesome or whether I should cry.
That actually makes me sad. I understand the reasoning, but I think it is equally as important to show young girls that they don't have to be conventionally pretty to be successful - I think the best thing that NASA could do would be to hire a diverse set of women and let them present themselves however the heck they want - makeup or no makeup, whatever. That would show girls both that there are many kinds of beautiful, and that intelligent people don't have to look one way.
Load More Replies...I think maybe we need to be careful what we wish for this this one.i don't honestly know, and I welcome responses to this comment. But I feel like it used to be enough for me to be the smart, nerdy girl. But now I feel like it's becoming a requirement to be sexy as well. And I'm so sick of feeling like I'm supposed to be sexy just because I'm a woman. Now, I try to dress well, and look put together. But I've never had the personality of wanting to be "hot". It just doesn't fit me. I'm just me. I don't mean to ramble, but it feels like this one is putting us in the direction of the "super woman" again. After all, most male scientists aren't thought of as sexy. Just nerdy. It's ok for them to excel at just the one thing. They don't have to be everything. Am I not good enough if I'm smart, but not also stunningly beautiful?
This!! It's not just appearance, it's also being severely underestimated. I'm not sure why going out on dates, people are surprised I work for a living. Was I suppose to function as a lamp or floor ornament?
A well known Australian TV personality in the 1980s said on air regarding a female intellectual “Well make up your mind- you’re either attractive or you’re smart, you can’t be both”.
well I look fine and everyone says I'm smart... WHAT IS THE POINT IN MALES ALWAYS BEING THE SMART ONES!
My 14 year old daughter pointed out today how often my dad interrupts me. I hadn’t even noticed. She said, “yeah - all the men in our family interrupt and talk over you except dad.”
'I'm sorry, did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?'.
we also need to stop saying "sorry" so much as well.
Load More Replies...Ugh. I grew up with two moms and a little sister, but now they are divorced and my mom is engaged to a man who lives with us. I love him to bits, but he interrupts and mansplains and comes across as a bit arrogant at times - it is so weird because I am so used to living with all women, but I guess this is most peoples normal.
People everywhere need to learn how to not interrupt. I hate it, so rude. Women men everyone.
I am ALWAYS being interrupted! I have finally learned to stop being so meek (thought I was being polite) and say "Hey, I'm talking here!" or just keep talking.
I’m glad she was aware rather than continuing that dynamic in her relationships
Or right in the middle of myself or my friend talking they start talking to the men as if what we are saying couldn’t be of any interest to the men.
Even my dad talks over me all the time, but he gets really, I mean REALLY mad if me or my sister talks over my mom.
My partner and his father do this too and they are feminists. I just don’t understand how you can do that.
"AS I WAS SAYING, BEFORE I WAS SO RUDELY INTERRUPTED", is a phrase I would have to repeat often in work meetings, back in the day. Thankfully, the men in my life now are really decent guys who appreciate strong women, and I don't have to worry about that kind of bullshit anymore.
The amount of sexual abuse and harassment that is rampant in our society. Most women I know started being harassed by men when they were elementary school students, and that is seen as normal.
Sexual harassment of women, ESPECIALLY young girls, isn't seen as normal. It of course happens which is atrocious and should absolutely be stopped but only sexual predators think it's "normal."
Many people including women think of harassment as normal. "Oh were catcalled? What were you wearing?" The reason why it is so prevalent in our society is precisely because it is normalised by many.
Load More Replies...i started getting inappropriate looks and comments from guys when i was... 13 probably. i'm very short and petite all around, so at 13 i looked like i was 10. it was terrifying to hear grown men say, "hey baby" and "do you want a boyfriend?" at that age. and i felt like somehow i was doing something to attract this attention. for years i wouldn't wear tank tops, tight stuff, or short stuff in public, as a way to cut down on those comments. when i worked at Target, i was 20-23. there were an amazing amount of clearly older men (gray hair and wrinkles) telling me how pretty i was and asking how old i was. when i told them my age, they would usually respond (with disappointment), that they thought i was younger. ugh.
Porn is normalised and is now readily available to anyone of any age thanks to the internet. Imagine impressionable young boys and girls being exposed to that and having their sexual experiences and expectations based on that. Then wonder why more people are not talking about the prevalence and normalisation of porn.
We have to remember that although this does happen to a large percentage of girls it can be used against young boys as well.
I downed my first guy (who was being completely obnoxious) when I was 7, after he tried to kick me in the crotch, my statement was, 'It works better on boys, See. and kicked him in the crotch.. The boys left me alone after that one.
As a child boys pulling your skirt up.
Periods like they are something we should be ashamed of and not talk about.
When talking a rape, women are told things they should not do and things are directed at they are to blame for anything and everything that happens.
Being talked over.
You either talk too much or not enough.
Being sexualized at any age. Looking at you beauty pageants.
When you prove a man wrong, somehow you are villain because you hurt his pride.
beauty pageants are a total menace, not only are children forced into performing when they don't want to but their bodies are also sexualised in totally disgusting ways
If there's anything grosser than child beauty pageants, I don't know what it is.
Load More Replies...My school's skirts are shorts with flaps sewn on to make them look like shorts. I only now appreciate that
Gosh, I think I completely swept a memory or two under the rug. I never liked skirts, ever. They might look cool on other girls, and maybe longer ones are nice to wear out if you're just going for coffee or something, but short skirts on a little girl? Nope, absolutely not. I wanted to wear the skirts that I had in my dresser because I'm a young kid, and before covid, we would go out to recess at school and play numerous games like tag where I need to run up and down play structure ladders, jump around, and scurry through small spaces, etc. A skirt is the worst thing to wear. But then there's this: Even on days that I wanted to just rest on the swings/walk around casually during recess, I was afraid to wear skirts because I thought it might be too revealing and I might get some unnerving stares. It's happened in the past, and because of those experiences, I never really wanted to wear a skirt again. Now I'm realising that it was a gut feeling that I'd be looked at in
--inappropriate ways by boys that were in my class. But I was literally 8 or 9. 8. Or 9. It's very sad that that's even a thought I'd consider at that age.
Load More Replies...If you say "Mm-hmm" during a pause in a man's conversation, you're "interrupting", not letting him know you aren't asleep listening to whatever it is he says.
But if you say nothing they get angry "because you arent interested"
Load More Replies...All this leads to making women feel that being born a woman makes them wrong or a mistake. Like me being a woman is a bad thing!
As a child, I wore skorts, not skirts. If I absolutely HAD to wear a skirt I wore shorts underneath it.
Load More Replies...I had a friend at uni who worked in day care a couple of days a week. One day she took a small group of 4 year olds out to play on an oval and she heard some of the boys talking about raping her. Then they attacked her and tackled her to the ground. They were 4 YEARS OLD.
The 1st,2nd, 3rd,4th,5th,7th IS FRICKING COMMON IN MY CULTURE AND NO ONE GIVES A DAMN my dad doesn't even know I started having my periods a year ago
Men hitting on you after you’ve made it clear you’re not interested but stopping immediately if they find out you have a boyfriend, so you must “belong” to another man.
Or saying that you must be a lesbian because you are not interested in them.
It also sucks when you're into women, and the men think that's hot, and assume you would be willing to demonstrate for their pleasure
Load More Replies...Let's say it out loud. Men who do this don't respect women but they do respect other men's "property rights". Ugh. Stop.
Yep. I had a fake boyfriend name I had to use a lot. "No thanks." "What do you have a boyfriend or something?" "Yes." "Oh yeah, what's his name?" "Chad." I don't know why, but I was obligated to give an actual name before they would back off. UGH.
A man at work keeps asking me if I'm married, and I keep ignoring him
They have zero respect for you but respect a man that they haven't met... incredible!!
Treating women like objects is considered normal in my birth country. Sometimes someone might ask "Where is your owner?" And it's not even a religious country, yet it happens often. My mother once shouted when a stranger asked why she isn't with her "owner". Also there was an ad for an all girls school, where they showed pots and vacuum cleaners instead of books. It got closed down by the government. But still, why can't people understand that women are NOT objects.
The fear of expressing too much comfort around male friends who might see it as a sexual opportunity. Too many of us experience this
And then complain they are being friendzoned 🙄 Absolutely hate that word.
Yes! I have a friend who is a boy, and almost everyone who sees us hanging out is all like, oh there totally dating. It’s annoying and it’s also a way that rumors are started. If we could normalize being friends with the opposite gender, it would seriously prevent a lot of rumors too
And then guys call it being friend zoned when you want to stay their friend. She doesn’t owe you anything for being nice.
While I have experienced this I also have a fantastic male friends and my husband also has female friends and there's definitely nothing sexual between us. The only thing that could be classed as sexual is hugs but we all work hospitality and huggers.
i feel so privileged now, and did at the time as well; in my teens i had a pretty close group of friends, boys and girls, we played d&d and did all sorts of other stuff together (we were all homeschooled, but not the useless hyper-religious kind). one of the guys was a hugger, fullbody contact good strong hugs for everyone he knew, regardless of gender. it was the first time i'd ever encountered a boy who acted like that, and it was so refreshing. he was one of the people i've known who let me keep my faith in boy/girl close friendships actually working.
This always worries me because I’m stupid and can’t read signs. I always just end up asking bluntly if I’m reading the situation correctly or not. I’ve lost friends because they felt uncomfortable, lost romantic possibilities because I wasn’t aggressive enough but hey, better than making a unwelcome move on someone.
I hate this so much. Because if you say immediately that you have a boyfriend or that you are just looking for friendship you are thinking too high of yourself but when you don't you have been leading them on and gets called a tease, a sl*t, a wh*re etc. And its sad that guys get so little affection that they mistake kindness with love or lust, but it isnt the womans fault. And a normal guy can take a "not intrested in more than friendship" and say "okey, I'm not either"/"okey well I am" and accept that without any arguing or answer the "i have a boyfriend" with just "okey" and either leave the woman alone or start a friendship. We say this often to protect ourselves from assholes who are going to lash out on us if we dont want to sleep with them. And no, not every guy is like this but if you feel hit and gets offended then you probably are one of them.
I didn't even know this was a problem until one of my friends (The morning after crashing on the sofa together following a drunken night out) said, 'Know what I love about you? You didn't try to sleep with me just because we were hugging'. It's was a real WTF moment.
Men pushing boundaries without consent during sex. "Accidentally" putting it in the wrong hole. Strangling. Hitting. Abusive misogynistic language. Pretty much every woman I know has had a man do these things out of nowhere towards them and they are supposed to accept it because it's "kinky" or something. And now it's literally 15 years old girls who are dealing with this trauma because of p*rn normalizing it as something boys are supposed to do to women, its completely disgusting
Young people (all genders) *need* to be told that porn is not real. Over and over again until they get it. For a lot of kids it may be the only sex education they get. No wonder they have a really skewed view of what sex is supposed to be like.
and it's not about just telling them porn is fake, but give them ACTUAL sex education at school, but then the parents come up and say they don't want their babies learning about these things at school
Load More Replies...I think somehow they really think women actually like it, and it's like their whole world view flips upside down when they realise that actually, no, that is not the case
THIS. What people think is okay b/c of the way they're exposed to sex... or not educated about it.... We have to stop it.
Talking to young people, I was really surprised to hear how common and normalized it is among their friends to expect ejaculation on the face. I mean, consent and a desire for it, sure, but as a standard practice with intercourse... ehhh. 😬
Or to expect women to be up to a**l, spanking, pulling the hair etc
Load More Replies...I'm glad I didn't grow up with the internet, we would stumble upon an old ripped magazine in the woods and that would be our first exposure to porn.
lol those were the days. my buddy had the movie Basic Instinct on a vhs tape. The picture was all blurry from the rewinding and fast forwarding to the 'good stuff' so much :D
Load More Replies...It’s not pushing boundaries to do something that wasn’t comsented to. That is sexual assault. 😡
I was actually amazed when I dated a girl in my early 20s who wanted me to do this kind of things to her. "And please stop asking for permission beforehand," she said. "thats a turn-off. Just go and I'll let you know if you go too far." true story.
btw you can't accidentally put it in the wrong hole.
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Women's clothing being paper thin and without pockets.
Well cropped shirts at least. I do NOT have the body for a cropped shirt, and honestly even if I did, I wouldn't wear them, I'm almost 40 not 22. Give me long shirts. PLEASE and jeans with pockets bigger than my Chapstick. I hate (and refuse) to carry a purse.
Load More Replies...I heard a tip once: Wear and buy boy's clothes. They're thicker and have pockets.
Yes. We need to do that to show stores that women want comfortable options too. Clothes should be labeled by width and lenght not by "genre"
Load More Replies...Yeah! What is it with that? I find a cute shirt and then notice it's see through. I live in South Texas, people!! I don't want to layer in the summer!
Same thing with sweatshirts. I'm not trying to look cute, I just want to be warm.
I was tossing up between two dresses to wear to my son's wedding. One had large hidden pockets. Naturally, that was the one I chose. Murmurs of appreciation from the women I showed the hidden pockets to. Another factor is women almost always have handbags. I end up with my husband's wallet, glasses and all keys. Bit like a packrat.
Not getting the help from doctors that we need to survive. A woman in my country died from cancer that was related to her undiagnosed endometriosis, but for years doctors just thought they were 'bad periods'.
This. It took me 10 years to get my endometriosis and adenomyosis diagnosed and another one to get surgery (and it went terrible due to a sexist doctor). By the time I got treated the endo wasnso bad that it was basically too late to help. I cannot work or have a normal life anymore because of all the doctors that ignored me or put my fertility as a bigger priority than my health
I had endo and at that time, the only way to diagnose it was through surgery. I never did that, but knew it was what was wrong. When I finally had my hysterectomy (which had to be abdominal - because I finally found a doctor that believed me) they had to remove the endometrial tissue from all of my organs. Fun times.
Load More Replies...I have PCOS which has given me diabetes and Hemorrhaging periods. They're so bad I'm on iron pills now because getting my uterus removed is an "elective" surgery, I have no children, and I'm unmarried or in a relationship. They know I have a genetic disease that is passable and I have chosen not to have kids due to this. To even qualify I have to have DNC's and a doctor's order that it's a medicay nessicairly. As stated above every gyno in my network refer to it as elective right now. They want to put an IUD in me and told me to take 2 Tylenol before it because you're awake for this, and when I told him he'd have to use the juvenile speculum he told me he wouldn't be able to do it with that size and I'd be okay. I bleed if the use an adult sized speculum. So I'm waiting until it hospitalizes me so I can get it out of me. The women in my family have all had them removed before 40 because they've almost died from the bleeding.
I recommend not to go with the IUD. I have PCOS and endometriosis and I had an everyday spotting with it. It might be different for you but generally IUDs are not recommended if you already suffer with heavy bleeding.
Load More Replies...Omg yes I know that there is something wrong with me right now but my doctor keeps saying its emotional if this medication doesn't work and my mom says you just need to eat better. No. There is something wrong but nobody believes me.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you'll find a better doctor soon and when you do, I recommend you exaggerate the symptoms a bit (not too much, just enough to sound confident) Request tests, don't wait for them to be offered. Keep making appointments until someone listens. Wish you luck.
Load More Replies...If I were her parent I'd sue the doctor, make sure his lawyer gets some work. He killed her, well technically.
My pneumonitis, hypertension and pulmonary stenosis were all ‘diagnosed’ as a ‘panic attack’ even though it had been going on for months.
I had a bleeding stomach ulcer for 30 years. Most docs put it down to a nothing problem- just "the little woman complaining" despite being so anaemic I needed iron transfusions. Finally saw a doc last year that said after 5 mins- "hey, did anyone chec your stomach for a bleeding ulcer?" Two days later I was in for a gastroscopy- and there it was! 30 frikkin years of pain and blood loss, and eating issues before i found a doc to take me seriously.
always get second opinions and consult alternative therapists. Mainstream medicine is lacking in many ways..
The expectation that women should wear makeup to be seen as professionals.
Aging isn’t allowed. It is the norm for men to grow older and look it but women are constantly pressured to look young.
Look no further than News presenters. There are 70-75 year old male news readers still on TV but as soon as the females turn 40ish they are off to another career as they're not young(pretty)enough anymore!
yeah after about 10 years at my job, i stopped wearing make up and jewelry. I don't do my hair, either. i take a shower and let it dry by itself. i still dress nicely, wear heels (i like heels), but not doing all that other crap. i'll sleep in for another 30 minutes instead.
I stopped wearing makeup five years ago. But that's thanks to not living in a big city.
For women, as well as men, looking healthy, can be important for a multitude of reasons, like a competitive environment. It appears to be an innate proclivity to want to be attractive.
I hate this! Why do women have to paint their faces to be viewed as a professional? Mascara, foundation, lipstick, all that junk are unnatural & make your face feel grungy.
Men should be shaved and not look messy either. As for age, it depends in which position you are. At least in my line of work, I haven't seen women being pressured to look young, nobody cares.
Right back at you Ross. Women are told to wear make up in professional settings but neckbeards like yourself have never been in a professional setting except at your bankruptcy hearing. You keep telling us w every comment youre abusive. We see right through you. I feel so bad for the women and children in your life bc I know exactly what you're doing to them. You control manipulate and abuse. With every single comment you're confessing to it. You're vile. I hope your girlfriend/wife and kids are able to get help and get away from you. I cannot even imagine the pain and suffering you've inflicted on them. Pure emotional and physical abuse that is who you are. Vile vile vile insecure depressing sad violent little man.
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Being firm often leads to a woman being branded as demanding.
Or a called a bitch. The double-standard is very obvious especially in management positions.
call me a bitch. who cares? It is only a reflection of the person making the statement.. THe ironic thing is that a bitch is a female dog and anyone comparing me to that, it is a compliment.
Load More Replies..."Bob, I need that by four pm, thanks." is replied to with, "Byotch, you get it when I say so." And then Bob gets fired, and complains that women are the reason his life sucks. No, Bob, the reason your life sucks is b/c you're a twit. ----- based on a real experience of mine, he was not named Bob
In my experience, it's more usual to be categorised as a bitch, or that if you're not cheerfully compliant and sort of submissive then you're inadequately female.
Then it's a good thing I don't give a rat's ass what people think of me.
Or telling a man to do something repeatedly without them doing it, and being called bossy
Or a nag. I hate that. If most men did their share of the housechores women wouldnt need to "nag" them about it.
Load More Replies...If a woman is a strong leader she's a "bitch", whereas a strong man is "decisive".
Women having to come up with safe and clever ways to reject a man’s advances instead of being able to give a simple no and have it being respected.
Being a firmly committed single woman, sometimes I dread having to explain the whole "yes, I'm single, no, I'm not looking for a mate" conversation. I used to lie and say I was married or had a boyfriend, but many times they took it as a challenge.
try the 'naw, hon, i'm a lesbian' and then have them get all excited 'can i watch?' Cripes.
Load More Replies...Hey Punished, do you wear that eye patch bc a woman who said "no" to you followed up with a left hook bc you don't understand that NO IS A COMPLETE SENTANCE.
And even then they still hit on you. Like “oh you’re underage? Age is just a number”
My wife and I talk about this one a lot. Some men will respect your wishes and stop trying when they are told no, and a lot of others won’t. It’s impossible to know which is which so it’s safer for women to classify them all as the ones that won’t. Some of the good ones just end up being collateral damage in a woman’s attempt to stay safe. Can’t really blame anyone but the guys in the world that don’t know boundaries.
Ross isn't the bride at this wedding, and he demands that be fixed.
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Catcalling, it's gross and degrading.
I absolutely hate this. Not only that it makes us extremely self conscious, it is also considered sexual harassment.
You are making such good comments, I shall follow u
Load More Replies...I was in the car with my male friend and he noticed that I never pull up parallel to the car next to me when stopping at traffic lights. I always hang back so my window is not next to theirs. He asked why and I told him that sometimes it is men in the car next to me and can wind their windows down to try to get my attention with cat-calling. Granted, I am a bit older now and the chances of this happening anymore are less, but it is something that I learnt to do in my early 20's and still do to be safe. It is second nature to me now- I don't think twice about it. One time a van with two guys did this and then followed me for around 20 miles on the motorway. Over taking me, slowing down, flashing their lights, laughing, shouting to me out of their windows. I was terrified and started crying when they eventually left me alone.
ignore them utterly. if they try to escalate because you aren't responding, find somewhere with people, pretend you're on the phone with your enormous boyfriend who's on his way from the gym to meet you, or any other defensive techniques. i'm not an expert, this is just stuff i've seen suggested elsewhere.
Load More Replies..."YoU'rE gOnNa MiSs It WhEn YoU'rE oLdEr." - too many stupid men on the internet
https://youtu.be/oec92ndCJ08 video of moms catching their sons catcalling *them*
Actually I have always found it funny - ever since a teenager - what do they think they sound like......
It's just f*****g evil to make a woman feel afraid to walk down the street by catcalling.
I’ve had it turn into stalking a number of times. There was a period of about 2 months when I couldn’t leave my house because there was a builder over the road who verbally abused me every time I went outside. Inappropriate behaviour by men is the main cause of my PTSD.
“You were probably asking for it.”
You must punch them in the face and recite the pledge. “You were probably asking for it”
Load More Replies...No woman is EVER asking for it. If she needs to, she will just actually ASK FOR IT! Give her a chance, jeez!
This one is so ridiculous and gets on my nerves. No woman is asking to be sexually harassed or assaulted.
Yeah I was just walking down the street minding my own business!! Soooo asking for it! Not.
I could walk down Main Street buck naked - that doesn't give ANYONE the right to sexually assault me. Period.
Anyone can walk down the street stark naked and they're STILL not asking for it.
Being with giant manbabies who do not know how to act like adults.
Ladies it is not normal to be with someone who argues with you, never cleans up after himself and expects you to do all of the housework.
Well we don't have to stay with them, at least. And we can teach them otherwise if they are willing to learn. Sad we have to think like that though.
My brother is one of them ... so damn annoying. He never moved out, never lived alone ... never had to be a real adult. He can't manage his finances, needs help with official documents or phone calls ... because he's rhetorically like a teenager ... etc
One of my brothers is one of those "boy" boys. He's never lived alone, never had to stand on his own two feet, and will never be able to get his s**t together. He is single (and has been for most of his live)... and unfortunately, we share the house, we grew up in ... for financial reasons. It's too late for him by now ... he's almost 60.
While this is indeed infuriating, a lot of this comes from the parents. "Boys will be boys" attitudes, not asking children to do things around the house, not teaching them how to cook or take care of themselves is what leads to such cases. And while I wish this wasn't true, a lot of it is due to women not teaching their boys differently (yes, men should do it as well, but unfortunately most of the education is done by women; a terrible, yet true fact).
iI don't really get this one. I mean... this isn't the 50's where you have to get married because you have been "groomed" to be nothing but a "housewife". Women have more educational options now and many more employment opportunities. Before you marry a man you should have a good idea of how this man was raised, what to expect of him and how he will view the distribution of labor in your household. It's on you if your husband is a "manbaby", because I am confident he was one before you married him; if you didn't see it, you were too self absorbed, or you didn't want to see it.
Sadly it is so difficult nowadays to be able to afford housing or to find a job that a lot of women are stuck with abus8ve partners or manbabies.
Load More Replies...So, part of what this entire is is about, is common current standards. This entry is referring to the fact that women have been conditioned to think that it's normal for men to act this way, and that we can either put up with it or be alone. Also, many women are stuck because they don't have the work skills to get a job that pays more than minimum wage. And Mr. Man-baby makes it impossible for them to go back to school. Yes, they can leave him, and then be stuck working 2, maybe 3 minimum wage jobs. And many women do just that. But we shouldn't have to.
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Not being able to walk down the street at night with headphones on without carrying your keys as a weapon.
Not being able to walk down the street at night ALONE without carrying your keys as a weapon
Not being able to jog/run/walk the dog down a secluded walking trail during the day.
Load More Replies...Note to all: DO NOT put keys between your fingers. Any blow made with keys held like that will split all the skin between your fingers. Better is to hold something small - like a pen - in a fist, so that it protrudes just a small amount. If you need to hit someone, swing your arm like a hammer and all the force will be concentrated in that small tip, at no damage to you. Learned in a self defence class many years ago and never forgotten :)
Yeah! There was a post on BP about this a few weeks ago
Load More Replies...Not being able to walk at night alone... Men don't even think about this...
I drive EVERYWHERE with the car doors locked and if I can’t find a parking place that feels ‘safe’ I leave.
The amount of money we have to pay for menstrual products. I remember being a poor university student having to use rolled up toilet paper because I couldn't afford pads or tampons, and menstrual cups were not a thing back then. $12 for a box of tampons doesn't seem like much, until you're living off KD, ramen, and rice, then it becomes a luxury.
should be free...or at least very subsidized...guess you'll need free health care for that
They are expensive even in countries with socialized health care.
Load More Replies...$ 12?! How many will you get for that? In our country you get 32 tampons for € 4, and those are not the store brand but the expensive ones.
You can by a 16 pack of pads if (like me) you can't use tampons for.... 95p. I suspect this might be a US-being-overcharged-for-the-basics thing again. Having said that, a 16pk may not last long if it's heavy, and (most depressing of all) even 95p is too much when you have pennies to feed yourself on (I desperately want to hope that it's a tiny, tiny percentage of women who really can't afford less than a quid for pads)
Load More Replies...It’s very expensive. I mean, if you get a box or so every month, it can add up. And stop it with the scented products. What’s the point???
Oh, God, tell me about it! Just marketing trying to convince us that our vaginas stink, and that we should be embarrassed and self-conscious about it.
Load More Replies...If the government can have programs to give away condoms they can find money to give away period products. It's just that these rich, white men that run the country don't care about women's issues!
Cups and period underwear and standard products should be given to all women free or subsidised.
Yes. Pads and tampos are terrible for the environment and very expensive in the long term. If a government needs to subsidize something is reusable products like cotton pads, period underwear or the cup.
Load More Replies...I believe Scotland has recently made them free for all women, other countries need to follow suit.
Free in public restrooms which is great. They are still not free in supermarkets.
Load More Replies...How expensive are products in your country??? They are like 2-3 dollars or 1,5-2.5 euros in Lithuania (Europe)
That goes for the cheap in Germany, the others around 4-5 €.
Load More Replies...Before starting my period, I had tons and tons of warnings and discharge, all of that stuff, but I never used pads or even panty liners, I just used toilet paper. It always slipped out of my pant leg, and it was super awkward when it had yellowish, sometimes brownish stuff on it and it dropped out in front of one of my family members. :<
Try cotton reusable pads. They are wonderful.for this kind of things.
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The fact that women die of reproductive cancers more often than men because our pain and symptoms aren't taken seriously. So many health women lose their lives because their pain and suffering is considered normal, are told that what they're experiencing isn't bad because women are meant to experience pain and dysfunction.
It. Is. Infuriating. Periods are not a way to shove aside real problems. If something is wrong, it is the doctors job to take it seriously. No. Matter. What.
Doctors should accept the money they're receiving for doing a diagnoses and just... do the diagnoses! Even if it is just period pain, there's absolutely no harm in checking! Ugh.
Why aren't these doctors in jail? When a woman says she knows something is wrong, don't blame it on her female anatomy, she knows when something is wrong, it's her body after all.
When I am old enough, I really just want all of that removed. I have no intention of ever having kids (lots of genetic disorders which I would not want to give to a child, plus it is better to foster or adopt to me) plus it is just a pain.
Seeing this as my endometrial cancer tumors are being called "malignant" and "metastasized"
After a certain age everything’s put down as ‘menopause’ even though most doctors know absolutely NOTHING about menopause. It’s just a ‘blame all’ syndrome that’s not understood whatsoever. Hint: higher incidence of suicidal ideation than with post natal depression.
When I was Hemorrhaging, My Gynae kept telling me that it is just heavy periods. Until they discovered me unconscious on the floor of the outdoor waiting area, 2 hours later I had a Hysterectomy. 36 hours later he wanted all the stitches and staples out.
One of the main reasons I changed to a female OB/GYN. I didn't have to convince her that I was having period issues that were abnormal. She listened and diagnosed me with fibroids on the first appointment. Never got that kind of feedback from a male OB/GYN.
About two thirds of my doctors have been women and I got the same bad experiences from them. From a gyn yelling at me for not wanting kids "what about your husband!!" to my last GP that refused to give me painkillers even after getting diagnosed with endometriosis "because a paracetamol should be fine" while giving my fil strong painkillers for modderate pain.
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Telling me to smile when I don't f**king want to. But when I was younger I did out of discomfort.
Agreed, this is just so weird. You’re so pretty when you smile...
Exactly! You can compliment me if I’m already smiling, because that means I am relaxed.
Load More Replies...I've started saying, since I hit 40 a good while back, "You dn't hvae the right to know why I'm not smiling." I had to practice it a lot before I was okay saying it, but it sure does make 90% of the people (women and men alike) move along and stop trying to rearrange my face for their pleasure.
"you'd be so much prettier if you smiled" F**k off. I'm not here to be pretty, I'm not here to please you, and I guarantee if I'm not smiling and you suggest I do, you are about to have a worse day than me, mate, and you're probably not going to be smiling at the end of our encounter.
Amen! Pretty is not the rent you pay to exist in this world.
Load More Replies...The joy of mask wearing. I havent heard the words "you should smile" in a while and its so relaxing.
Real smiling is what you do when you're happy, not when you're being told to.
This one for sure, let me be. Walking around with a smile on my face constantly? I'd look like a loonatic!
One thing I have dreaded since beginning. Like it was the first thing that caught my eye as a sign of normalised discrimination, was.. Whenever a guest arrived at my place. I or my sister was supposed to make tea or prepare some snacks. But my brothers played outside. I hated it so much.
Same. I hate the whole 'girls in the kitchen' expectation. I'm in there so my mother isn't doing all the work, but f**k it. My dad should know how to make something in the kitchen other than alcoholic beverages for hosting.
Exactly. When I was a kid my dad barely ever cooked and when he did it was "oh so special" because my mom didn't need to do the work
Load More Replies...I'd visit my grandma (which took about two hours round trip) pretty much every weekend for four years until she passed. My brother would show up once in a blue moon and that's all she talked about. It was my "duty" because I'm a girl, but "he's a boy and he's busy.") ughhhhh
I grew up with 5 brothers ... and always was the one, who had to help my mom with the chores. I'm always so proud, when I now see, how my son treats his girlfriend. He fetches her thick socks when she complains about her cold feet ... without being told to. He mostly cooks, because she prefers to bake. They've been sharing all of the tasks since they've been living together.
My parents never made me do stuff like that, however some relatives saw this as a sign I wasn't brought up "correctly"
Same here, especially at holidays. All the women are in the kitchen busting a gut whilst the men watch tv, eat and snooze on the sofa. Now I have a son I get him to help, breaking the circle and all that
Same still in my home. If we have guests and I dont offer them food or drinks they will starve and die before my partner does. I hate it but at the same time I dont want them to be angry with me. 99% of visits are from his side (since i dont have family or friends here) but I am still expected to serve or cook for them just for having a vagina.
Same as I am expected to get them presents because my partner wont. I refuse to do ut and this xmas his parents didnt get a present because my partber is to lazy to buy one. But if course I feel terribly ashamed if showing up without anything.
Load More Replies...This is mostly perpetrated by older women who keep teaching this to their children and guys who keep expecting this behavior
I was NOT going to let my son leave my house without knowing how to cook, clean and all the other "women's duties". Just like my daughter knew how to change a tire, the oil and basic household maintenance. I knew too many people my age who couldn't do any of those things. I wasn't going to let either of my kids be helpless on their own.
Ha! On Sundays my dad would take my older brother out to watch football, even though my brother had no interest and I was the sporty one in the family. I got to stay home and learn to do housework, including how to make my brother’s bed. I was 4 years old. As a teenager I cleaned the house every week for $10 pocket money. My brother didn’t have to do ANYTHING ato get his $10.
Inappropriate behavior from men, especially from a young age. If a boy hits a little girl he “just likes her”. That little boy grows up thinking there’s no repercussion for violence, and keeps hitting women. The cycle just goes on.
Unpopular opinion (Id like to start a discussion here): If Guys *can't* hit girl's then girls *can't* hit guys. Now LET ME EXPLAIN. At the school I'm going to, a lot of the boys have the mindset: "I can't hit a girl" This is great for the girls and all, but there are girls, who are comfortable smacking/slapping guys if they get mad at them. and the Guys are almost expected to take it. I think this is wrong, this is just the opposite of what this post is saying... so far opposite that it's almost the same thing. one gender being violent to the other and getting away with it. The way I was raised is: only use violence to defend others or yourself if words and civil discussion didn't work or are being physically attacked. Also never throw the first punch. I think this should apply to both genders. it would be gender equality. My brothers are very respectful young men, and will readily talk before fighting, more than me sometimes! Please tell me what you think, don't just downvote:)
The phrase should be 'no one hits anyone, keep your f*****g hands and feet to yourself'. I have a nephew who was being hit by this girl who was older than him, for no reason. She woild just come out to the playground and punch him.or kick him. He had told a teacher snd nothing was happening. I told him.if she kept hitting him for no reason he was to hit her back and we would deal with the school. All kids need to be taught not to hit
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Do people still get on that way with kids these days? If any kid hits any kid no matter the gender I tell the kid who got hit to whack them back harder
That is less the little boys fault and more the fault of the mother and father. That is just bad parenting if they don't correct it.
Generally true, but some kids just hit more than other kids. Girls or boys, it doesn't matter, they all do it.
Load More Replies...Wait, kids, all kids should be told hitting is wrong. Violence is wrong period. Not just boys against girls.
As a little girl I was taught to stand up for myself, but when I hit back I was in the principals office, yet when boys hit girls they maximum get a short chat with the teacher.
A friend had a nasty bully for a son and when he hurt girls- he’d try and shove sticks up their skirts for instance- she’d make him go back to the girl he assaulted and give them a HUG. Way to associate violence with physical intimacy.
Birth control. Side effects and horrible horrible possible risks
Or because its almost impossible for anchildfree woman to chose permanent sterilisation.
Load More Replies...I have heard this so many times before, why not take the bullets out of the gun rather than expecting a bullet proof vest to protect you. Condoms are way safer for everyone. Birth control pills are terrible.
Condoms are not safer for preventing pregnancy. By themselves there is a one in 50 failure rate per year when used absolutely perfectly, which multiplied over all the fertile, sexually active years of a woman’s life is quite a risk. Birth control pills can be terrible for some women. They are not terrible for all. People have to experiment and see what works for them. There are also options besides condoms and the pill. Edit: You are the one spreading myths Ozacoter. Check the Planned Parenthood website for both condoms and the pill. The pill is more effective even with perfect use. Vilification of the pill puts women in danger, especially because many young people reading this will likely not use condoms properly.
Load More Replies...The Pill was originally tested on men but they didn't like the side effects, so it was marketed to women. https://babe.net/2016/10/19/pill-originally-made-men-didnt-like-side-effects-916
When I was talking to my husband about getting a vasectomy I listed all the reasons that birth control is problematic. He responded with, "Yeah, but you're used to it." I wanted to punch him.
Is birth control considered a "society norm" now? Also, how is it messed up? There are soooo many choices. Key word, choices. For pretty much all of human history, birth control WASN'T a choice. If you had sex regularly, you had a bunch of kids. There wasn't another choice. I feel like birth control is an amazing freedom, not a "messed up society norm". If we're talking just "the pill", well that's just one of many many options. If you don't like that one, pick a different one. This isn't 1980. I went through several as a teenager before I found one that worked great for me.
I actually take birth control because without it, I have horrible debilitating hormonal migraines and BC gets of them entirely. It also manages my PCOS symptoms. I've been on it nearly 30 years now, since I was 15. It has pretty much saved my life. Plus, neither hubby nor I ever wanted kids, so that was a bonus.
I mean, the complete double standards we have for women as mothers as opposed to fathers. There’s a lot to be said but for example, we tell moms it’s normal to sacrifice damn near you’re whole entire body/career/hobbies/life for the kids but men are somehow not held to the same standard? Idk if I’m explaining well, I’m a tired mom.
I must be missing something. Because when I became a father I sacrificed everything for my children. Anything that I wanted to pursue that didn't involve a little girl was off the table.
You sir are a good man. We need more people like you out there.
Load More Replies...I heard someone talking about this on TV over the weekend. It's very common to use the term "working mom" but you never hear people say "working dad".
Parenting takes 100% from both parents. It's not like my wife had a kid and I didn't. Children show you how selfish you really are and its your choice to either change and support your children & spouse, or continue to be selfish.
Like when a Father says, I offered to watch the kids. NO, just, NO. They are your kids too...you don't "babysit" your own children.
This! In my experience,I was left with Post natal depression; ZERO 'me time'; no hobbies, no quiet cup of coffee. It was housework! Caring for baby! Cleaning! Cooking! Organizing! Partner spent 3-6hrs a day on his console while he ignored his babys cries. I was the only one caring for her; and if he did ANYTHING it was "I did X for you"
I wish that the economy was good enough that women had the freedom to just leave those abusive partners.
Load More Replies...Ross Dillion and punished are all the same insecure abusive man! Omg this is getting comical. Every single comment they tell us who they are. Omg these abusive men really have no self respect. They really hate themselves so much that they must inflict pain in order to feel better about themselves. Their poor kids imagine the abuse they're suffering.
My mom was a working mother before it became more the norm, but still set aside her career for a couple years at a time when each of us was born. My parents worked opposite shifts (mom from 7:30-3:30 and dad from 3:30- 11pm) so we always had a parent at home, but in reality, my mom was working round the clock between the office and doing everything at home. Dad? Well, he complained a lot about all the things he'd given up because of us. And he never missed a chance to go to the racetrack.
My biggest complaint in this regard was when one of the kids got sick. Um, my job is JUST as important as yours & since I'M the one meeting with the CEO today, you can stay home with the baby. F*****g prick. And NO - you're NOT BABYSITTING, you are PARENTING your child.
No you wouldn't. We know from your comments you hate women and children. You're an abuser youve told us over and over and over.
Load More Replies...You can't dictate what a women does w her body omg how sad for you. What a pos you are. Are you a rapist? Bc you sound exactly like a rapist. You have a choice not to have sex that's your body to control. If you have sex you run the risk of getting a women pregnant. Once she's pregnant it is her body and only hers you cannot dictate what a women does w her body. You can only dictate what is done w yours. Don't have sex if you don't want kids plain and simple! You never ever ever have the right to tell a women what to do w her body. You don't seem to understand this at all. Get therapy stop using the women in your life as therapists and stop using us on here as your therapist too. You really need help. Serious help. I've reported you multiple times. I'm seriously afraid for the women and children and animals in your life. You are an abuser.
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That people think they have the right to comment on how a woman looks or what she is wearing. There have been way too many times where someone feels they need to point out my 'physical flaws' just because. For example: acne, dark circles under my eyes, body/facial hair, paleness, etc.
Being lectured in public by a total stranger for my ''sloppy'' clothes while I was on my way to work on a stage set.
This. I've had women friends 'suggest' I should do my hair differently "you'll look YOUNGER!" Younger than my face? That would be weird.
I feel the same, from both men and women. I do my best to look professional and classy but people always look for a reason. Even outside of work complete strangers will comment on my hair. It's a bob, but it's not down to my butt so somehow that warrants unsolicited advice. Why is how I look so important... You can dress very nicely but it's impossible to look perfect.
This starts so young. No one ever stopped and commented on how adorable my baby boys were, but my daughter drew unsolicited attention, and now my granddaughter, too. And in preschools teachers are constantly commenting on how the girls look, what they're wearing, etc.
its plain rude to make nasty comments - it is not nasty to admire something
That's just plain rudeness, I don't think it's just men. I find women can be so much worse.
One thing that vexed me the most was having people tell me to stand up straight and not slouch so much. Had to always bite my tongue and not tell them “yeah, I’d stand up taller if I didn’t have the weight of everyone’s expectations and opinions on my shoulders”. I guess I get that it came from a place of concern for my well-being, still, it gets old quick.
Honestly both sexes are just as bad for this, it's especially prevalent around teenage years but it doesn't stop for guys either.
The constant picking apart of womens appearance by basically everyone and holding women to insane beauty standards (extensions, false lashes, makeup, drawn on eyebrows, contouring tricks to change your face, dye your hair, dress sexy, don't dress too sexy, wax your privates, dye your hair, stay in shape, have a big butt, tiny waist, push up bras, get fake nails, on and on and freakin on)
When I was teenager everyone was impressed with my huge eyelashes ("Are they real?!"). Now every girl has bigger fake lashes so it's not a big deal :(
My eyelashes are really long too but not as long as fake ones, so at least nobody thinks I'm wearing fake ones.
Load More Replies...But the question is WHO are you trying to impress by doing all of that and WHY do you care what they think? If you are doing it to attract men, then you may want to ask yourself, if the men you attract are interested in having you do all of that, then is that they type of guy you really want. Wouldn't it be better to do what makes you happy and then find a guy that likes you for who you truly are?
When I see those contouring videos I always wonder what their romantic partners will think "the morning after" when all that crap layered on their faces comes off.
i feel that way about shapewear, like, sure you look perfect with your clothes on but what happens at home when gravity takes over again? i don't understand it at all.
Load More Replies..."by basically everyone" - I'm glad that was included because besides the obvious men, I think women also do this to other women.
Women seem to do all of this to impress other women. As a guy, I'm telling you that most of us don't like the majority of this crap. Your fake nails, lashes, extensions, drawn on eyebrows, etc etc are pretty ridiculous from a guy's point of view. A girl rockin' her pajamas with a messy bun is way more appealing than this costume of makeup and fakeness that women dress up in.
You can put alot of blame on the infuencers today for that. Today's body morphology is the worse its been in my life time and I'm 71. It truly sucks.
Definitely! I have a friend who sells fake eyelashes and they look SO corny.
And in every cartoon every girl has fair skin and blond hair. Yet boys are different, why?
Being polite to creepy men. There are so many things that can go wrong and I've read too many stories of women being killed for not taking a guy's number
Basically you're f*cked if a creep takes an interest in you. If you say no, you should've given him a chance to show he was nice (so you had it coming). If you say yes, you accepted his advances and you should've known he was a threat (so you had it coming).
saying this to sander the medieval village is called the world
Load More Replies...You would probably love the girls (and merch) of the podcast My Favorite Murder! One of tgeir catchphrases is 'f*** politeness.'
I remember us girls- all of 14 years old-being advised by a Catholic to NOT fight back when being attacked but to LET the rapist rape you. The reason was that if you fought back he might get so angry he’d KILL YOU and that would result in HIM committing a mortal sin and he wouldn’t get into heaven. RAPISTS shouldn’t be going to heaven, for Christ’s sake!
No way! That's awful. I personally, would be screaming as loud as I possibly can.
Load More Replies...Stabbed, killed, hit.. so many women are assaulted & murdered cause she rejected a guy, politely or otherwise should not matter sometimes men just do not understand no thank you and you have to get expressly loud or firm with them then they call you a bitch or worse.
Heard an interesting tactic. Give the guy "your" number, but really of a guy friend. When the guy calls the number, the guy friend says "OMG - she had been dead 10 years!"
Bored Panda - how bored do you think we are that you alow this bit of fearmongering to be published
Yep - being stalked, raped, killed because you reject a guy is a real thing. Men are afraid we'll laugh at them - oh boohoo... Women are afraid men will kill us if we slip up. Statistically, one in four women has been sexually assaulted, molested, or raped. Unfortunately statistics only count REPORTED incidents. It's more like one in two - maybe one in one point five. Literally every woman in my family has had this happen. Every, Single. One. And men walk around like... Not me! Yeah well start watching for who it is then because we are tired of being afraid.
People speaking over them, and/or the inherent ‘brush off’ that “if a woman says it it needs to be verified somehow.”
"Man-splaining". My former boss tried to explain the industry specific accounting program I HAD CREATED to me. I was like, "Oh, really? OK. Show me how to run this report". And of course he said he didn't know how. I ran him through another few hurdles, just to make my point. And after conceding that he really didn't know how to do anything, I was like , "Really? Because I do. Wanna know why? I wrote the f*****g program".
My husband... every f*****g time. Where's your proof??? Well, where the f**k is your proof?
I once took a brand new male worker over to meet with another group that did the same work mine did. The guys in the other group spent the entire meeting talking to the newie, even asking him questions about things he could not possibly know after just a few day. I did know, but they didn't ask me.
I'm so lucky to work with software developers. Speaking of the older ones (40+), I only very very rarely felt like they treated me differently from anyone else, man or woman. It's only recently that I've experienced this, from certain younger men (under 35), but that might be more about me getting up there in years than being a woman. I haven't seen them around other women enough yet to know.
Get this man a calendar, its 2021 come out of your bloody village stuck in 1827
I know a few women who make it difficult to get a word in but it is more often the guys who have to talk.
Part of it is the corporate culture vs how women are taught to act. Get in there, throw some elbows. Don't apologize for speaking. Stop worrying if everyone likes you. Speak with confidence. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD only say stuff that is relevant (that part is to everyone)
The way pregnancy is treated like an illness. I feel like if men had to go through childbirth there would be more medical advancements in the field. Also, women’s childbirth injuries are often never treated seriously because the child is prioritized. Many never fully recover.
This is definitely a problem that varies across nations/regions. The biggest injury issues still ignored (IMHO) are pelvic floor damage that results in bladder/bowel dysfunction and pain,if not spinal nerve compression issues.
And many women die, sadly because scientists are too busy building spaceships to worry about our medical system.
My pregnancies were worse than any illness I ever got. I always wished people would see it as such and treat me accordingly, rather than repeatedly telling me that I was pregnant, not ill.
My daughter had such a rough pregnancy that she and her husband decided to only have 1.
As soon as you pop the baby out you’re ignored. Happened both times with me- horrible post birth memories.
As is Miscarriage. The attitude seems to be, 'If you have already had a Miscarriage, you will be fine, you know what happens. I suffered for 28 years because of that attitude.
Honey, if men had to go through childbirth the human race would cease to exist. These little pussies can't handle hang nails.
I’m in the UK, I love running but I pretty much can’t train past a few months as when my fiancé is home at 4:30pm it’s dark, I can’t run on our old railway path when it’s dark! It’s annoying but normal to me now, but for a man? Yep run on your own at 5pm no worries
Handy hint: get some workout gear clearly branded with a martial arts club. Even better, also go to the martial arts club. There was a wonderful story in the UK news a few years back of a young woman attacked by what turned out to be a serial rapist as she went through a (park, I think? It was a while back so can't remember the details). She was a trained martial artist and beat the s**t out of him. This is one negative aspect of being female we can change.
but why should we even have to change it to begin with?We shouldn't have to train in bloody martial arts just in case a man wants to try to rape us.
Load More Replies...Because she doesn't want to go out for a run in the dark when no one is waiting for her to come back incase anything happens.
Load More Replies...Wear camouflage printed pants/gear, hooded tops and sunglasses. Experience. It helps even in broad daylights. :(
And if you were to run and something did happen then you'd be held to blame smh
I am afraid that while men are the predators women have to be always on guard..
So women that are not as physically strong as men can beat them up? Men that stalk and pounce? Men go after vulnerable people Dillion but you know this bc you're one of them. Anyone that doesn't believe me go back and read all his comments. He spells it out how he's abusive to women and children. He literally says it.
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Not technically "women" but I think getting an infant/very young girl's ears pierced should not be acceptable. Parents are ignoring their child's right to consent to things that happen to their body and it's purely aesthetic. Strange to push beauty standards on babies, let alone one that involves literally putting a hole in their body that could last their whole life.
Can we say the same about circumcision? It isn't necessary to butcher a baby
Yes. Definitely. Non medical circumcision should be banned in minors. It is barbaric to mutilate your children just for your religious beliefs since they cannot co sent to the surgery. Once they are 18 they can choose if they want it or not.
Load More Replies...It should be illegal to force kids to have cosmetic surgery (ear holes, circumcision) or force them into religion (baptism, religious simbols). They cannot consent so they should not be forced into it.
If you don’t believe in baptism what’s the point in banning it? It’s just a ritual. It doesn’t actually hold the significance religious people think unless you believe that religion.
Load More Replies...And yet my husband and I still get frowned upon that we still (!) haven't had our daughters ears pierced. She's 7 now and thinks she wants it. Until she realises needles are involved. We'll let it be for some years and talk again when she's 12 or so 😉
I had to have my ears pearced later in life but the holes disappear when I don't wear earrings for longer time. I wouldn't be angry with my parents if I have earrings from younger age.
Shocking how many people I have heard that totally believe the lie that it doesn't hurt babies. Um, you hear them crying, right? Just because they can't voice their pain with words doesn't mean it doesn't hurt.
I cried so much when I was little my parents probably wouldn't be able to tell if I was in pain lol. But I agree, it's your kid's choice to get their ears pierced.
Load More Replies...I agree with this, young girls and toddlers should NOT have their ears pierced without their consent. At the point they can say they want it, it's their own doing. A lot of religions do forbid holes in the body/piercings and piercing your kiddo's ears before they have a say will not be good if they ever decide to get into one of these religions.
The way the medical community seems to approach childbirth. I've watched documentaries etc. (no kids myself) and what really struck me is how patronizing everyone was to these women who are going through perhaps the worst pain of their life, and how things like LITERALLY CUTTING THEIR GENITALS are seen as no big deal.
Uuuurh. Makes me mad! Btw. The chainsaw was originally invented for childbirth.
Load More Replies...I was just going to add something here about this. A lot of women need an episiotomy cut to avoid a MUCH more traumatic tearing that could happen during child birth. A surgical cut is much easier to stitch up and have quicker healing time for the woman than a tear which isn't always 'straight' and can sometimes involve tearing into the r****m a**s (4th degree tear). The pain, infections, and surgeries can be absolutely devastating and debilitating to the women who experience these. So as Dave said. Please be less inflammatory about this practice which is VERY well established to PROTECT women from further traumas.
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Not being taken seriously.
Robert - "Name one example" How about your questioning of this post? Or is the irony stumping you?
I have seen a comment 'Name one example' from Robert but it disappeared like a lot of other comments on here. How come?
Load More Replies...I think us women could name hundreds of times each, thank you very much Robert!
Load More Replies...Being tickled/touched by older men (grandpas, uncles, neighbors) and given sexual compliments like “you have child-bearing hips” or “you have your mother’s bum” from a young age.
Being expected to let these older men tickle or hug you, when you don't like it, because otherwise 'he'll be offended' 'you'll hurt his feelings', 'you're being rude', 'don't make a scene' Or 'Just put your hand out to shake hands, and he won't try to hug you.' How about teaching our little girls that their bodies are their own, and no one has the right to touch them without consent. How about teaching them to say "No! Don't touch me! I don't like it!" and they absolutely should make a scene, give offense, and hurt peoples feelings, rather than submit to something that makes them feel unsafe and uncomfortable.
What's wrong with tickling? (But like, touching in inappropriate places and sexual comments are obviously not okay)
I always hate when my grandpa's friends make comments on me as beautiful and wanted to marry me as joke, but I never find it funny tho my mum always laugh at and ignore it as nothing..
Being treated like you're to frail / idiotic / incapable to do things. When people won't let you do things because you're a woman or tell you to wait for or get your male partner to do that thing. I know it might be put across, commonly, as a care or consideration, but it's condescending, diminishing and a deprivation, at times.
At Scouts I was a assistant leader who did more work than the guy who was my leader. I only got respect from male scouts because the men who run the scouts yelled at then to respect me (they're really cool guys who care about me and treat with respect.)
My dad taught me how to work on my car. I was going home to change the oil in my car when an older woman asked my why I was doing it. I told her I couldn't afford to pay someone to do it and I could do it myself. "Why don't you just ask one of the guys to do it?" (meaning the guys we worked with). It's a dirty job that I wasn't comfortable asking someone to do. Plus, not a single one had the know how. Not every one had a Dad that could do it much less one that would teach them. BTW if I ran to the auto parts store and my dad thought of something we needed he would call them and tell them to have me pick it up. I was the only female in the shop 99% of the time.
One of the best places to see this idea changing is in the fire service. I know that not every place has a lot of female firefighters, but those that do are damn impressive. You wont think of women as being frail/idiotic/incapable after hanging out with those heroes.
Being expected to fix a broken man. Men are never expected to fix broken women, but women are always expected to be some dudes second mommy when he needs to go see an actual therapist.
i don't know if i agree with this, either. i always felt like we should fix each other. if the guy i was with didn't want to do that, i didn't want to be in that relationship. the ideal is that you fix yourself and then get into a relationship, but in reality, a lot of us don't do that.
Disagree. if you have problems, you need to deal with them yourself, b/c no spouse or SO will ever do better for you than you can. IMHO.
Supportive isn't the same as fixing a broken person . Support is part of a normal healthy relationship. Women expect our friends to be supportive too
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Ignoring the very real and common (1:4) issue of miscarriage. Over 25% of women will experience one. And more than a few of those will have multiple failures. But we are not allowed to talk about children that never breathed.
Well I didn't know that so many women experience such trauma - I suppose that shows how little it is spoken about which is disgusting. I have a lot of respect for every women who has survived the (emotional and physical) pain of miscarriage - wait no I have respect for EVERY woman, full stop. And, of course, people of every other gender. But we are talking about women right now.
Yes, this is real. losing a baby, even early on, is traumatic. I lost one at about 7-8 weeks into a pregnancy and I have been told that it shouldn't be a big deal because I was barely pregnant. Like what?!?! It's was so emotional for me.
I've seen stats indicating the rate of spontaneous abortion (the medical term for miscarriage) is as high as 1 in 3. It's ridiculous that we're just meant to go back to work a day later and not feel like our worlds were ended. And, yes, I've been told that "it wasn't bad,, you were only X weeks along." So.... THIS. We cannot mourn our possibilities, and it sucks.
To be fair a lot of abortions occur during the first weeks so the woman often does not realise that she was pregnant. Luckily since it will spare her a lot of suffering.
Load More Replies...Again I think this is a mistake women are making more than men. My mom told my sister and I about her miscarriages and a stillborn baby she had. Mom was more of a "its part of life" type of person. When I had mine (3, we adopted our kids) it hurt but wasn't devastating because it was something I knew happened. We'd talked about it I was prepared. I had one major melt down, watching our neighbor rush to the hospital to give birth after our second miscarriage. My husband was so upset "I thought we were past this. I'm so sorry."
Strange men asking me to smile for them. It's not normal, it's creepy. You should feel straight cringed by this.
random guy: "cAn YoU sMiLe FoR mE?" me: "NO I WILL NOT THANK YOU VERY MUCH"
The fact that they don't offer any pain mitigation for an IUD insertion is ridiculous.
i got the one in my arm. got one pain shot and let me tell you, i cannot imagine what it would have felt like without it. it felt like someone was using one of those huge wood staplers and punching staples into the underside of my arm. and that is a sensitive spot!! i can't imagine getting an IUD!
Anything in the area of the cervix or having to do with dilation. Why do we have to feel the pain? It's an ugly side of medicine that we have to tough it out when pain mitigation should be easy. I had a procedure where they flushed dye through my fallopian tubes under x-ray. The tech said "It's a little pinch" It was a cramp like I'd never had before. I said "Little pinch??" He responded with "Well, I've never had it done of course." Had I been standing I might have grabbed his nuts. "It's just a little pinch"
I've had women act shocked that my husband cooks dinner not "sometimes" but at least once a week. He helps cook every other night. We trade off on dishes.
I had a grown man proudly tell me he has never cooked, his mother or his wife always cook for him.
That dude must be illiterate or some how deficient if he's never cooked. I know a guy who's only good at boiling water and maybe microwaving TV dinners.
My kids doctor is always surprised when I am the one that brings them to appointments.
Ladies teach your sons to cook. My husband does most of the cooking. Our daughter shares making meals since she moved back home (Covid) Our son cooks for him self if he's not into what we are eating. My husband does most of the shopping too. It was more of an even split but he took over when I was working and I tried never to go back. LOL.
That condescending and infuriatingly arrogant tone that some men take on when explaining something (be it a hobby, some interesting fact, or the fundamentals of this-and-that) when their listener is a woman. I understand that this may simply be done to impress, rather than be irritating, but just knowing that they wouldn't dare talk this way to a male friend or colleague is...well, irritating.
Tolerating partners who drain your energy, put you down, and don't put in effort to your relationship and/or household because you believe what you should be doing is trying to fix them or figure out how to make them behave. Relationships ARE work and conflict is bound to happen, but I see so many women doing all of the work all the time and blaming themselves when their men don't get better.
Both people have to work in any relationship for it to be healthy. Conflict is unavoidable, but if they decide to be mature and smart-- all good.
Absorbing men's dysfunction. He was abused? She'll talk him through the best therapy she can manage. He was never taught how to (normal life skill here)? She'll do it for him. He's too macho to take care of himself? She'll nag him till he does, and she better be a good sport and laugh as she's ridiculed for "being a nag".
the myth and romanticism of the damaged man that can be fixed or "cured" by your love
The expectation that in an office, a woman has to put 200% more work and money into her appearance than her male colleagues and sacrifice a good deal of personal comfort to a "business casual" dress code. Hair, makeup, tight pants, pencil skirts, nylons in the summer, high heels, a kit of self-care cosmetics that need to be carried in a big bag.
And men? 20$ haircut once a month, maybe + 10$ for a beard trim. Shoes are mostly shaped like actual feet, pants are either loose or VERY stretchy, leggings territory stretchy without a tight fit. Most don't wear ties anymore.
the idea that a woman needs to wear makeup and jewelry, and do stuff with her hair, to be seen as a professional, is ridiculous. if a lady is wearing the exact same outfit and doesn't do any of the above, guess what, her experience and knowledge is still the same. nylons make my legs itch and flats look just as nice as heels, without the foot cramps later.
I sort of (but not entirely) disagree with this. I have worked in a business-casual office for nearly 20 years. I have never once felt pressured about my appearance. Business-casual doesn't have to be heels and tight clothing. The majority of women in my office wear flats and do their hair/makeup the same way I've seen them do it outside of the office. Some wear tighter clothes, some don't. I'm sure many people and offices have a different experience than mine but, I thought it worth mentioning that this is hardly a universal problem. Maybe this poster is forgetting the "casual" part of business-casual? The description of "business-casual" in this post is... wildly exaggerated.
Maybe, but you clearly have no idea how it feels to be in heels...or to be expected to be in heels and try to find an appropriate alternative.
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The idea that men & women cannot maintain healthy, purely platonic relationships w/ eachother (cos sex will eventually come up & get in the way) + the idea that a woman must drop all her male friends or cannot maintain contact w/ them once she enters an exclusive, romantic relationship.
I agree, but also women shouldn't demand from their partners to drop all female friends either. It's a two-way street.
In school, I was friends with this guy we'll call Guacamole. EVERYONE was shipping us, saying we looked cute together and occasionally making stupid noises whilst we were talking (kissing, moaning etc.) .... we were 12
Women being called "girls." Whether it is conscious or not, it implies a lack of maturity and, therefore, deserved respect. Among countless other places I have heard this, I attempted to watch a season of The Bachelor (bad decision for many reasons) and I could not stand how often the women were called "girls." I couldn't bring myself to check out The Bachelorette, but I suspect the men are never called "boys."
I call my mom and her friends "girls" too. They seem to enjoy it. Also I call boys my brother and father so...
In Supergirl (the tv series), Kara asks Cat Grant why she called Supergirl Super "Girl" instead of Super "Woman," because she's obviously an adult. If the tables were turned, and Superman was called Super "Boy" everyone would get angry.
Yeah I liked that. Altought superwoman does not sound very good imo. They should have gone with a real name for her and not a copy from superman.
Load More Replies...I like it. I call me my mom and the dog the ‘girls’ and then my brothers and dad are the ‘boys’. Nobody minds.
Absolutely! We wouldn't say 'Women and Boys'. Saying 'Men and Girls' needs calling out as disrespectful, infantilizing, and creepy!
And what is the age at which a female should be called woman, and not girl? And is it the same age for all females? Just asking.
Can't be any worse than impotent incels complaining about something they know nothing about.
Load More Replies...That women are the emotional ones and are naturally empathetic. Let tell you women can have just of hard of a time expressing emotions and often women build wall around their hearts to protect themselves from being hurt by the variety of media and hurtful stereotypes out there.
To have the husband "help" with the kids. To have him help around the house. It's his house, and his kids. This is how women's careers are destroyed. Having to be his personal assistant, maid, chef and nanny whilst also having a career to maintain some form of financial independence.
This annoys me to no end. I'm not babysitting. They're MY kids ! I'm not "helping" around the house. I'm looking after it too. Women are treated default that they're homemakers, which i suspect is a leftover stereotype from the 50s-60s idea of the "perfect house". My wife works a very demanding job. I do as much as i can around the house to make sure she has relax time if she needs it.
Can we clone you? 😊 If more men (and women, because internalised sexist attitudes exist) had your approach, this list would be a historical document instead of a current ongoing issue.
Load More Replies...i really hate the whole "MAN OF THE HOUSE" like piss off no one cares
My sister and her husband always correct people when they refer to him "babysitting" the kids. Rather than put the person on the spot or try to embarrass them though, they tend to make a little joke or something, that still gets the point across. I think a lot of the time people don't think about it before they say it. It'll take some time but, I'm glad society in general does seem to be making a little progress on this.
Gender norms in hetero relationships. They are so disempowering and diminishing to women, but they are accepted as normal and fine.
Women can change them or not accept them. It takes getting more women on board. I fix and repair things. My dad did everything in our home and if we helped he taught us. My husband did not have this experience and doesn't really like doing it. I do. Women in general are appalled or amazed that I do the things I do. They are actually more judgmental then the men I know. If we are going to change the "norms" we have to change how they are looked at by all genders.
Constant comments about our physical appearance from a very young age. It doesn’t matter if you are attractive or not either, because once people have a negative opinion on you they NEED to let you know.
Society values men's time more than women's. My husband and I both technically have flexibility in our work schedules, but guess who does all the doctor appointments etc. for the kids? Me. Because God forbid a man miss work in the middle of the day, or take a day off because his kid is sick. Every time he has done it, he gets criticized by his higher-ups. Easier for me to just do it since everyone expects a mom to miss work sometimes.
The expectation is that women will absorb the hit to their career because they'll have a man to take care of them in the long run. A man's career being similarly derailed will (by the same logical extension) negatively affect his wife and family too.
Yeah. Sadly if often means that women are in vulnerable positions and often are not free to leave their partners if they are unhappy or abused.
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Women feeling 'expected' to have sex and having their pleasure be secondary. I experienced this a lot when I was younger and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Like, I thought if I was kissing a guy, 'Well, now I’m expected to have sex with him because he’s turned on. I guess I have to.' And also thinking that during sex, the end goal was really mostly about him. It wasn’t until I was older that I realized how flawed it was for me to think that way, and for men to have reinforced that thinking via their actions.
Thank you! I try replying to him, but he gets so many downvotes, his comments disappear before I can. Unfortunately, it's only his comments that disappear.
Load More Replies...Painful periods. They are NOT normal and doctors need to stop making it seem as if it is. It took until my 30's, when I had surgery for a painful ovarian cyst, before they discovered I had endometriosis (and a dead fallopian tube). She was the ONLY doctor to even suggest I could also have endometriosis and that they would look while in surgery.
my mom once said she hopes when i get my period they wont be as bad as hers... spoiler alert she got her uterus taken out... so yeah...
I think this applies. When I was growing up, a family member had a band that would play around the area and we'd try to make it every time. I enjoyed dancing. I would dance with my cousins or family members or family friends my age. However, I was told I couldn't say no if someone asked me to dance and that it was rude. This included creepy old men. I can't tell you how many times throughout my preteens/teens I had to bear through a song with an old man pushed up against me telling me I was pretty.
A book I read about growing up for girls had a page where they gave a list of excuses we could use if a man wasn't taking no for an answer, like in a dance or something.
My mom told me “if a boy asks you to go to the dance(I didn’t go), you can’t say no.”
that's just wrong. You ALWAYS have a right to say no. To anything. Ever.
Load More Replies...That was a social rule at a time when dancing was a more general social activity and those dances were quite chaste. You weren't pressed up against each other, and it was often involving a larger group of people where you might switch up and partner with several throughout the dance. That doesn't really fit with modern dancing. Though it wasn't quite that you couldn't say no at all. It was that you couldn't say no for that dance, then dance with someone else. If you were sitting out, that was fine. Sure, part of it was to let the single folks spend a little supervised time together and get to know each other, but it wasn't entirely about hitting on someone. The dance floor would've been a mix of single people, married people, young people, older people. Now, if you say yes to dancing with a guy, that's generally seen as an opener for him hitting on you. It sends a totally different message than it sent back then.
No, just no. Be rude, be obnoxious. Follow your gut. If your family is insisting grab one and tell them no you dance with him.
Harassment in certain workplaces. Obviously harassment in ANY workplace is vile and wrong, but my aunt once told me to except to be flirted with, hit on, and harassed if I continued to work in kitchens/restaurants. She said it was "just part of the territory" and that I needed to just "understand that that's the environment." Excuse me? No. I don't care what the environment is, women should have to put up with harassment in the workplace.
Sorry, I think you mean women SHOULDN'T have to put up with harassment in the workplace. Apologies, I just saw a typo. Totally agree with you btw 🙃
Being home alone with a baby 1-3 days after a traumatic birth experience.
NOT ORGASMING! Or, even if you’re ok with not orgasming sometimes, not even enjoying the sex. I will go to my grave screaming this, because it was me for years. Women’s pleasure is NOT secondary.
Getting hit on at 13 by grown men.
I am a huge fan of high heels and I like to wear them casually, but I don't believe that women should be "expected" to wear them if it's not their thing.
Giving birth. at least where i live my dad said that "even cats give birth" like it's easy, he's so obnoxious and to think my mom gave birth to SEVEN.
Hard for cats too, they don't have anything to help them, they usually have few babies at once, so saying that about cats is not good example. Mammals give birth, your dad is silly.
Fun fact: childbirth hurts more for humans because we are bipedal. Don't get me wrong, it still hurts for cats, but not as much.
Load More Replies...I invite that father to pass a bowling-ball-sized kidney stone, then get back to mothers on how it feels....
Birth control! The hormones can literally turn you into another person, give you depression, anxiety, and other mental health issues, and we just have to accept that 65% of women are having their lives negatively affected on a regular basis, but they have no other choice if they don't want to become pregnant. And the option to just "trust condoms" comes along with trusting a man, who isn't really affected all that much at the end of the day if the woman becomes pregnant.
Taxes on period products when they are already so expensive and we can’t control it. Also, men staring for far too long when women wear skinny jeans, leggings, or other form fitting pants/clothing when out in public, always irritates me.
Being married and having children with men who are absent parents/house hold members and it not being a point of contention, just accepted, expected, and accommodated.
Single mothers being demonised by misoginistic men. It is heart breaking the horrible things that mgtow or incels say about them for taking care alone of their kids while they are fine with the father abandoning them.
Why are women put down for being single parents when they're the parent that STAYED?
Load More Replies...The fact that our medical problems aren't seen as important as a man's. doctors tend to think we're overreacting or the issue is stress-related.
I had a doctor once put out his hand too shush me everytime I went too say something!!.
Being taught to please others, plan your whole life around some abstract Future Husband you've never met and who may not even exist (and who isn't expected to plan his life around you), and never acknowledge your own needs. Just give and give and give until there's nothing left...and keep going anyway.
The horrendous acts of young boys towards girls with the excuse of “boys will be boys” or “he just has a crush on you!”
"bOyS wIlL bE bOyS" "NO BOYS WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE"
There are many times at school when a girl will tell me about her "boy problems" like this one guy likes me but I like this other guy. When I was younger I felt insecure about no boy ever liking me or me never liking anyone (either gender). When I was younger I often faked having a crush on someone.
Being harassed and assaulted at such a young age, and that’s just how it is. Learn how to keep yourself safe, bc society will blame you for it, even if you are 8.
The burden of motherhood in general.
It's hard. I don't know personally, I've never had kids, but I know. It's hard. Taking care of a living thing is no easy task, and it's is wrong to make women get the burden of it. I know there are plenty of fathers who are helping, but that does not erase so many women who are forced to work far to hard.
Being told to cover up in your own home because men are in the house.
This just made a difference to me. At about age 12, I remember going out of my room, in my nightie, to look for a book to read in the bookcase in our hall. This was something I did all the time in our house, for me normal. But this night my dad had a 'friend' over doing something who went into the hallway when I was there to find something or other, saw me in my nightie, turned around abruptly and left. A minute later my dad came in and told me I had 'embarassed' his friend and to please stay in my room. I felt vaguely bad about this episode ever since, and until I just read this post. I felt I'd done the wrong thing and felt guilty. Now I realise: Somehow at 12 I was meant to understand and anticipate that adult males might feel desire on unexpectedly a 12-year-old? What rubbish. I was 12. So CowboyHank, et al, no women don't want t walk around naked necessarily. But I thought I was safe, in my home in my nighty, at 12. That was when I learnt I had to cover up, always, just in case.
no i have been told to not wear tank top and i have to wear a bra because of my dad and little brother
Load More Replies...Keeping sexual abuse/assault under the wraps so that the abuser can not be penalized. Generally within the family.
Being stared at by men of all ages.
Women are over sexualized in everyday life and in media.
"Female representation among fashion companies in the Fortune 500, while not as bad as other sectors, amounts to roughly 24 percent." -Women CEOs in America report,... and Fashion industry? how does fashion corollate to being seen as a sex object?
Load More Replies...Why isn't cuddling (btwn men & women) w/o any sexual implications or strings attached not more common? Why must every action lead to sex? Why can't I just be supported as your dear friend? Why can't you respect that I do not want sex? And why do you now grudgingly & hslf-assedly giveme what I want after I tell you sex will not happen. Isn't my non-sexual company enough for you? I guess not, cos you do not actually care about me solely as a human being. You are more concerned about getting your sexual needs met while w/ me...
is this something common that women do with each other? If not, why would it be common between a man and a woman?
It is very common between women unless raised beng taught that cuddling is a way to ask for sex.
Load More Replies...The first time having sex being painful, honestly just painful sex in general.
That's not a societal norm though. It ***IS*** a norm to expect women to just keep quiet when it hurts, and to keep doing it, no matter how much it hurts. And of course, doctors don't BELIEVE that it hurts. But the actual pain isn't society being horrible.
The biggest one for me is the pleasure gap. If I came in the middle of sex and mid thrust, just rolled over and went to sleep with a “good work team!” people would think that was crazy. But it’s literally what men do every single day.
Being talked over me when I'm talking. I'm not saying women don't do this, but men interrupt me so much more and I think it's very disrespectful.
The expectation from men that is '' before earning the right to solve women issues, women should FIRST fix every single issues that affect men in the society they created for themselves ''
Having to be hyper vigilant when walking home at night. Keys in hand - between your fingers, walk quickly, music turned down so you can hear if anyone comes up behind you etc.
The rates of Child Sexual Abuse perpetrated against female children... 1 in 3 girls. It's likely closer to 1 in 2 but we don't have perfect numbers to go off of.
while it looks like the numbers are all over the place for these statistics, an article that uses the 1 in 3 girls statistic has a 1 in 5 males suffer child sexual abuse. So granted for girls the rate is higher, but the issue is Child Sexual Abuse in general. There is no reason to just focus on the female children because it is usually people that were abused as children that continue that cycle and abuse more children when they get older. It is not 100% men that are doing the abusing, women do it too.
That liking traditional things like sewing, cooking, organising our space, makeup etc means we want to be housewives. No, it means we have hobbies. I'm not "preparing myself" to be a stay at home mom. If men like traditional things it's seen as... Nothing more than their hobbies.
Agreed! The whole point of the women's right movement was to give women choices. I mean, wasn't it? Far too many people think that the CHOICE to be a traditional stay-at-home mom or to enjoy the traditionally "female" things in like, is somehow a step backwards. Nope. Its all about choice. And if that's your choice, enjoy it! Don't let anyone tell you its not good enough.
Being solely responsible for contraception that f*cks with our body’s and emotions and hormones and it’s seen as completely acceptable to get a women to bleed for more than 6 months straight as a form of birth control. Basically stopping her from having sex.
That traveling alone is dangerous—fine if you’re a guy, but as a woman, without a man or group traveling with you, you’re in danger
Reducing us to labels. “Mother, wife.” We can’t fit into boxes or one role!
Second guessing our intelligence or EXCESSIVELY helping with minor and simple tasks. Some may think this is polite, but really, it makes most of us feel inferior.
the fact that women always want to lose weight, or are perpetually dieting because they believe they're not "thin enough."
Or the fact that society sees as 'healthy weight' underweight women. I used to have a BMI right in the middle of the healthy area and was called fat all my youth by family and others.
I was underweight, clinically, until 20 ------ b/c my dad used food to control us. My sister(long dead) had an eating disorder as a result of that pressure. He'd consider me fat and my BMI is dead-center where my doctors all like it. Soooo..... Yeah.
Load More Replies...Catcalling, having to be polite to men who make us feel uncomfortable
Most woman have to so they don’t get harassed.
Load More Replies...When they go for a hug when a handshake would do (and they squeeze just a little too tight).
I really dislike how hugs have gotten to be a default greeting here in the US. Sometimes people do it when they barely know you. And it's awkward when friends you know well give you a hug and you're in a group with people you don't know and don't want to hug. I don't feel like pressing my body up against people, especially strangers. Handshakes are good. The European-style air kiss would work. Japanese bowing? Great! Let's do that.
Yeah! Handshaking, high fiving and fist bumping are better than pressing your body against a stranger's.
Load More Replies...Here! *hugs you through the screen* Hope you feel better! The people you love definetly miss your hugs as well.
Load More Replies...There is NOTHING a woman can like without being made fun of (and this is especially bad for teenage girls). I remember hearing this question for the first time and I genuinely couldn’t think of something that I would be able to like without someone mocking me
my passion is theatre, and I get mocked for "being dramatic," I have big emotions okay? What's wrong with that?
Oooooh, you like to read? I bet you want to have sex with the man in the book. Oooooh, you like to cook, you re gonna make a good housewife.
I'm guessing you're just confused, women are questioned a lot more than men on hobbies or interests, such as skateboarding, video games, bands, etc. They assume that we like things to impress men.
Load More Replies...I think this one can go either way. Boys (and men) get mocked for liking things that aren't traditionally 'manly'. Just let people like the things they like. If you don't like _______, then don't do it.
Having to carry the emotional burdens of children more than men because we are the "sensitive" and "emotional" ones. Like please, men have just as many emotions as we do, yet women are expected to do all the emotional lifting when it comes to raising children, we are expected to handle the tantrums and soothe the crying of children.
Needing to laugh when a man tells a joke/needing to agree when a man argues
Quite a lot of men and women expect women to handle all the housework and take care of the kids, especially if you are a stay at home mom.
If you have arranged to be a stay at home parent, your job is running the home and taking care of the children.
If you expect a sahm to work 24/7 with no breaks I hope that you go to work 24/7 as well. No more holidays, sick days, weekends etc.
Load More Replies...I love how you read "do all the work" and you understands "doesnt want to do anything ". Women work 24/7 at home even if they work full time. Men need to step up or realise that women dmwont date them.
Load More Replies...Feeling uncomfortable wearing thinner/less clothing in front of male family members during ANY season, but especially summer
Being treated like "one of the guys" Just because you're friends doesn't mean you can say and do disgusting and degrading things in front of us.
i don't know about this. if i'm hanging out with guys, i expect them to do guy things. not trying to be gender insensitive here, but like, stereotypical man stuff, like farting and talking about bathroom stuff and sports. and rating chicks on the 1-10 scale. they don't care if i talk about "female" stuff when they're around. that's what friends are. at least i think so.
The double standard that sexist men have for women. If we are career oriented they get angry because "feminism has ruined women" and complain about women not being at home anymore. But if you are a homemaker they call you lazy or a golddiger.
Maybe because I'm older now (it did take me a long time to learn), but I don't give a f what people think anymore. I do/say what I feel is right to me. Who cares about society or people I'll probably never meet again in my life or are simply not important enough to me. End of.
I remember being 16 overhearing girls in my class repeatedly bragging about their older boyfriends being so big and muscular. I even remember them talking about guys who were less bulky than their boyfriends (but bulkier than me) saying things like: "I hope for his sake he will grow a decent pair of shoulders one day. So he'll be more attractive." Needless to say being 1,80 metres (5,9 ft)and weighing in at less than 60 kilos (132 pounds) I had body issues as a teenager. Not that I want to p*ss all over this post downplaying womens issues. Judging people by their bodies is bad to do to both men and women. I'm just saying I know many men who have been dealing with these issues too. And this post, like many others, is framing men as perpetrators and women as victims while the truth is way more complex.
I agree, and I know other people will rag on you about your opinion and such, BUT! posts like these are supposed to bring awareness to women's issues, instead of downplaying them. Of course, as I was scrolling through, I had noticed that men had been displayed as rude, obnoxious instigators, when that is simply not the case. All men aren't like this, but some are, and that's the problem.
Load More Replies...Being expected to be the notetaker in work meetings. Older managers at my work always instruct women employees to be notetakers. Somehow, they never assign that task to the men -- even men in the exact same job as women. Oh, and if they ask for a volunteer to take notes, it's like all the men forgot their hands work. There's absolutely no reason that job should constantly fall on women.
Then it should be politely, but firmly pointed out that the manager is making assumptions. Chances are they don't even realise that they always ask women to take notes. Make them aware of their bias, and make it public. Suggest a suitable men to do the job instead. If you remain passive, you are failing to change anything.
Load More Replies...I am literally going to start counting the "women are victimised, men are bad" articles that appear on this website on a daily basis.
Once men start treating us properly this articles will disappear.
Load More Replies...The "girls can't play videogames" "girls can't play in the rain" "girls can't have fun just sit there being pretty" thing. It angered me so much as a child hearing that. let me get messy and muddy and happy like the boys.
You know what's normalised but shouldn't be? Men suffering silently. Being blamed. Always having to stay quiet because 'men don't get abused'. They may not get abused' as OFTEN but it is usually far WORSE. People just need to be open, and the listeners must be supportive and kind. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
Absolutely. I had a friend whose girlfriend hit him on purpose with her flipping car, and if he'd been a woman, he'd have everyone he knew up in arms, the police come to the house and arrest him, etc. But with him, the doctors checked him out, police said forget about it, and no one else cared (except me). That is when I realized we need to stop talking about "abused women" and talk about "abused partners". Men get far less support in every way (emotional, financial, law, etc.) In my friend's case, it was made worse because he has very dark brown skin and the doctors said the bruises wouldn't really show in photos in order to make a case. So, couldn't the doctor simply testify to it??!! Also, there has to be some way to deal with that, right? Not just, "Well, we don't know how to prove injury on dark skin".
Load More Replies...I stopped reading at #43. It's so completely normal to experience any of this on a daily basis. Just frustrating.
The double standard that sexist men have for women. If we are career oriented they get angry because "feminism has ruined women" and complain about women not being at home anymore. But if you are a homemaker they call you lazy or a golddiger.
Maybe because I'm older now (it did take me a long time to learn), but I don't give a f what people think anymore. I do/say what I feel is right to me. Who cares about society or people I'll probably never meet again in my life or are simply not important enough to me. End of.
I remember being 16 overhearing girls in my class repeatedly bragging about their older boyfriends being so big and muscular. I even remember them talking about guys who were less bulky than their boyfriends (but bulkier than me) saying things like: "I hope for his sake he will grow a decent pair of shoulders one day. So he'll be more attractive." Needless to say being 1,80 metres (5,9 ft)and weighing in at less than 60 kilos (132 pounds) I had body issues as a teenager. Not that I want to p*ss all over this post downplaying womens issues. Judging people by their bodies is bad to do to both men and women. I'm just saying I know many men who have been dealing with these issues too. And this post, like many others, is framing men as perpetrators and women as victims while the truth is way more complex.
I agree, and I know other people will rag on you about your opinion and such, BUT! posts like these are supposed to bring awareness to women's issues, instead of downplaying them. Of course, as I was scrolling through, I had noticed that men had been displayed as rude, obnoxious instigators, when that is simply not the case. All men aren't like this, but some are, and that's the problem.
Load More Replies...Being expected to be the notetaker in work meetings. Older managers at my work always instruct women employees to be notetakers. Somehow, they never assign that task to the men -- even men in the exact same job as women. Oh, and if they ask for a volunteer to take notes, it's like all the men forgot their hands work. There's absolutely no reason that job should constantly fall on women.
Then it should be politely, but firmly pointed out that the manager is making assumptions. Chances are they don't even realise that they always ask women to take notes. Make them aware of their bias, and make it public. Suggest a suitable men to do the job instead. If you remain passive, you are failing to change anything.
Load More Replies...I am literally going to start counting the "women are victimised, men are bad" articles that appear on this website on a daily basis.
Once men start treating us properly this articles will disappear.
Load More Replies...The "girls can't play videogames" "girls can't play in the rain" "girls can't have fun just sit there being pretty" thing. It angered me so much as a child hearing that. let me get messy and muddy and happy like the boys.
You know what's normalised but shouldn't be? Men suffering silently. Being blamed. Always having to stay quiet because 'men don't get abused'. They may not get abused' as OFTEN but it is usually far WORSE. People just need to be open, and the listeners must be supportive and kind. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
Absolutely. I had a friend whose girlfriend hit him on purpose with her flipping car, and if he'd been a woman, he'd have everyone he knew up in arms, the police come to the house and arrest him, etc. But with him, the doctors checked him out, police said forget about it, and no one else cared (except me). That is when I realized we need to stop talking about "abused women" and talk about "abused partners". Men get far less support in every way (emotional, financial, law, etc.) In my friend's case, it was made worse because he has very dark brown skin and the doctors said the bruises wouldn't really show in photos in order to make a case. So, couldn't the doctor simply testify to it??!! Also, there has to be some way to deal with that, right? Not just, "Well, we don't know how to prove injury on dark skin".
Load More Replies...I stopped reading at #43. It's so completely normal to experience any of this on a daily basis. Just frustrating.
