
“I Will Grant Him An Amicable Divorce”: Childfree Woman Refuses To Take Husband’s Affair Child In
Interview With ExpertBringing new life into the world can be a beautiful experience that makes an already strong bond unbreakable. But this only works if the couple is loyal and invested in their relationship, and of course, if they’re both parents to the child. Otherwise, introducing a kid into the mix can be an absolute nightmare.
One woman reached out to Reddit for advice after finding out that the child her husband had with his mistress might be moving into their home soon. Below, you’ll find all of the details, as well as a conversation with therapist and creator of Save the Marriage, Dr. Lee Baucom.
After cheating on her, this woman’s husband ended up becoming a father
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Now, she’s making it very clear that she doesn’t want the child anywhere near her
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“A couple who is committed to making their marriage work can find accountability and forgiveness, trust and connection”
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For many people, there can be no greater betrayal than finding out that their spouse has cheated. It can turn your life upside down in an instant and make you question years of great memories that you’ve had in your relationship. But unfortunately, lots of people know what it feels like to be cheated on.
According to data from The Institute for Family Studies, 20% of married men and 13% of married women admit that they’ve strayed from their spouse at some point during their marriage. And being married for a long time doesn’t make you more dedicated to your partner, as over a quarter of men between the ages of 70 and 79 admit that they’ve been unfaithful.
Infidelity can be a huge hurdle for a couple to overcome. In fact, it often causes the entire marriage to crumble, as the American Psychological Association reports that between 20%-40% of divorces are linked to cheating.
But even if a couple can manage to work through an affair, they’ll have many obstacles to overcome. To learn more about this from an expert, we reached out to therapist and creator of Save the Marriage, Dr. Lee Baucom. He was kind enough to have a chat with Bored Panda and discuss how couples can move past infidelity.
“It is certainly possible,” the therapist says. “While it is a tall order, a couple who is committed to making their marriage work can find accountability and forgiveness, trust and connection. But they need to look at why the affair happened, what boundaries they need to set to protect their marriage, and how they want things different.”
“In this situation, the child complicates what they thought was recovery,” Dr. Baucom noted. “A child is a constant reminder of the infidelity. Often, the child ends up representing the cheating — and is completely rejected by the spouse of the person who cheated. Sadly, the child is the innocent party, deserves a relationship with both parents, and does not deserve disdain from anyone. That can be a tall order though.”
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“Pulling together is the path to a strong marriage”
We also asked the expert if he thinks it’s fair for this woman to refuse to let her husband’s child into their home.
“That child should not suffer because the child came from an affair. But the rules of engagement should be a point of agreement between the spouses,” Dr. Baucom says. “In this case, there is an undercurrent of hurt and anger. I think that clouds the opportunity for deeper support.”
“A strong marriage works as a team, addressing challenges together. A hurting marriage gets caught in the web of anger and resentment,” the expert continued. “And that can be rationalized as justice. But starting with the welfare of the child may help the adults come to more healthy decisions.”
Next, we wanted to know if Dr. Baucom sees any hope left in this marriage or if it’s best for the couple to throw in the towel. “What isn’t clear from the post is what the wife will do if he decides to take custody but choose to not file [for divorce],” he pointed out. “In other words, she has put herself in a corner that might leave her feeling helpless once again.”
“It seems clear that the husband is wanting to take care of the child, but is not wanting to divorce, which creates an impasse both ways,” the therapist says. “Here, the actual issue is an ultimatum, more than an openness to divorce. It has become a tool of control. Notice the disconnection, though, when she refers to the house as ‘my’ house. She is working from a you/me perspective, not a WE perspective of a strong marriage.”
Finally, Dr. Baucom added that couples have multiple opportunities of pulling together as a team, or pushing apart as opponents.
“Pulling together is the path to a strong marriage. But when challenges come along (even if caused by one or the other), and couples become oppositional, the connection will eventually fail,” he shared. “In this case, the oppositional side is clear from the ‘mine versus your’ orientation around property and the child. The greater good of the marriage and the child has been lost. They can choose to pivot back toward each other, or they can continue moving apart.”
Later, the author responded to several comments from readers and revealed more information about the situation
Many readers sided with the woman and encouraged her to leave her husband
However, some noted that both spouses could have made better choices
And others thought that it was just an unfortunate situation all around
Poll Question
What do you think the husband should do in this situation?
Take custody of the child and move out
Respect the wife's wishes and let the child live with grandparents
Seek legal advice about custody
Try to negotiate with the wife
NTA but OP needs to bite the bullet and just file for divorce. From the post and all her subsequent comments about this "gem" of a guy, I don't think there was any point in staying married in the first place.
She was naive to think her husband's son was going to be irrelevant in their lives. If she couldnt handle it (which is fair), she should have left sooner.
Load More Replies...To be fair, all this garbage comes from Reddit. It’s way worse over there.
Load More Replies...I've been permanently banned from Reddit for telling a woman to defend herself against a sexual assault. Apparently it's okay to sexually assault women in the Reddit moderators book, but not for the woman to fight back, that's "inciting violence". LOL!!!
OP is oozing resentment and I don't understand why she stayed with her husband. They need to divorce. I feel so bad for that poor kid.
She's not oozing with resentment, she's ANGRY that she forgave her newlywed husband having a d**g relapse, an affair, and an affair baby. She just had one requirement: that she, a woman who confirmed she was childfree before hte marriage, was going to REMAIN childfree. She got him clean, he lives in her house, he forgave him everything, she just refused to be the one to clean up yet another one of his messes. And now he's decided that he can't honor that one request. OP isn't oozing resentment, they're furious that they are put in the position of having to deal with the drama and criticism of her husband declaring that HIM having a d**g fueled affair and creating an affair baby somehow means that SHE must now becomes a mother.
Her mistake was not leaving him when he cheated. He'd already proven that promises meant nothing to him. The minute there was a child from his cheating, that would have been the absolutely end of it for me.
Thank you! Everyone else is painting her a villain because she stands firm in upholding her boundaries. Which says a lot about the average persons subconscious view on women: their autonomy and dignity don't actually matter, and they can come up with a myriad of reasons why she (nor anyone else) shouldn't honor that.
I want to know what the 'father' did that warranted only supervised visits after 3 years. That is really suspect.
From her comments I suspect he has bipolar or some other psychic issues along with being a recovering addict. Honestly, I doubt he'd be given custody. You don't end up in supervised visitation for three years over minor d**g offenses or addiction. He's either got a significant record of violence or mental health issues.
Load More Replies...The only positive thing about this man, is that he wants to be there for his child. But he has been a terrible husband. I don't understand why they're still married.
Cuz OP doesn't want to pay, in any way shape or form, for her husband's actions. Divorce costs money. The divorce would be because HE fukced up. So, HE should pay for it.
Load More Replies...Strange that they did not break up when he had a child with another woman. Weird that they stayed through that but didn't expect any caregiving for the kid. Not the child's fault.
What are you talking about? It literally reads that her husband had the affair just after they got married.
But once she knew, she should have either dumped him, or accepted that he has a kid. Anyone who decides they're OK with telling a partner ~If you stay with me, your kid can't ever be here~ is a lousy excuse for a human being. The kid exists, and it's not the fault of the child - walk away, fine. But keeping your cheating partner while punishing the KID??? That's nasty.
She did accept that her husband has a kid and set boundaries of her not becoming a stepmom (as she stated on their very first date, she doesn't want kids in her life). Lemme get this right. You think that because her husband broke his marriage vows and CHOSE to violate his wife's personal boundaries, she's behaving "nasty" for staying firm in her boundaries? Because her husband has big consequences for HIS actions, she shouldn't uphold her own dignity and boundaries, she should help shoulder HIS consequences cuz "it's a child". People seriously suck, always expecting that women should be the ones to bend over anytime a child is involved but it doesn't work the other way for men. Her HUSBAND should be the person working himself into the ground to deal with HIS situation. Or allow the kid to go to a more nourishing environment, his grandparents.
No one is saying that the husband isn't to blame and it's not a woman v man situation. It seems unrealistic to expect to stay married to him and not have anything to do with the kid, that's all.
Pretending the child from his affair doesn't exist (as a way to not have to emotionally acknowledge and deal with him cheating) was never a long term solution. The fact closing her eyes; putting her hands over her ears and ignoring the 1000 ton elephant in their relationship has worked for 3 years is actually kind of impressive in its own way. She's being extremely stubborn not filing for divorce. Really, they should go together to file and end their marriage as amicably as possible. She's already emotionally checked out really. The post and responses are filled with barely suppressed contempt for him.
She's NTA for not wanting to have anything to do with affair child, but she's quite the vindictive type. She clearly doesn't love her husband (I have no idea why she's still in this marriage), and instead of just pulling the trigger on their relationship she's been waiting for him to do the paper work?
Divorce. OP is clearly not over the affair, and think husband taking. Second job does t defect their life at all. The relationship didn't really revive the affair, time to be honest about it.
The wife is a damp fool for not divorcing the husband. You can't really recover from an affair baby; especially if you plan to be child free. This relationship was never going to work because the husband had contact with the son. Both of them need to move on.
I honestly don't get why she didn't divorce him 3 years ago. I was on her side until she got to where she encouraged him to be a deadbeat dad. In this situation the partner who was cheated on has two choices: divorce or treat the child as a child. This doesn't mean taking any responsibility for the child. It means knowing if your partner has custody the child will be there and you need to act like a decent human being just like you would with any other child that's in your life.
She didn't encourage him to be a deadbeat dad. He pays child support (2 PT jobs). Didn't you see that in her post?
Load More Replies...I think they are saying that because fatherhood is more than money. It is time and if at possible, custody to any degree, which would involve the child staying at their father’s house. The father knows if he pursues that level of parenting he will lose his marriage. Everyone else is saying plenty about who is at fault, etc so I’m not touching on that…
Deadbeat dads are mainly called that for not paying child support. The OP holds no blame - except maybe for not divorcing his a**e when he cheated on her & got the other woman pregnant. His circus his monkeys, imo.
This woman is too bitter to stay married to this guy. If you can’t actually forgive the affair you should do the kind thing and move on.
She needs a friend or close fam member to knock her upside the head and tell her to get to moving on already. Like literally just stop it. This marriage was over when he cheated, full stop. Honestly it doesn't even sound like she finished processing it given how she still feels about it. That doesn't make her the bad guy but this needs to end already so she can move past the resentment and bitterness. It's not healthy to be this way
There's an update: https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/s/8ogwAJ3CGX They both suck🤦🏽♀️ and need individual therapy.
He facked around and found out. Somebody should had tell him not to betray your partner or at least use condom, either to avoid parenthood or HIV. If it was me in the shoes of the wife I would had get divorce immediately. As for the mamma concerned she got 8 months in prison w/out parole or probation? She must have a past with the Law.
Strategically I believe it's better to be the Petitioner when getting a divorce. Even in an amicable one.
NTA - she's set her boundaries and he should just go. She owes him nothing and the kid is not her problem.
Of course the internet is full of people crying that after forgiving her husband for having a d**g relapse and an affair after marriage (a confirmed CHILD FREE marriage), after letting him live in her home and getting him in rehab and clean, after forgiving and moving on despite knowing he now has an affair ...OP isn't willing to also be a mom. Everyone cries "but the kid is innocent!" and "oh you're just mad at your husband you vengeful resentful harpy you don't know what forgiveness or love is." When all that's happened is that a woman said "No, YOU having an affair, a relapse, a child, and a savior complex doesn't mean I'm required to change my entire life and become a mother against my will."
Update summary: big, long talk; wife: “I won’t sleep if we divorce”; husband breaks down; marriage counselor visit; he doesn’t want to be an active parent but feels obligated, wants to stay married; kids went to grandparents in Virginia; she gave him airline points and did laundry for him to visit the kids, he stayed up all night gaming and missed the flight; he is crabby and continuing gaming.
The woman is the a*****e, from the minute she found out her husband was cheating, and then had a kid. She should’ve walked. Because you can never be sure that for one reason or another, your husband might not have to take on full custody. S**t happens people die, people go to jail, she knew she didn’t want this child in her life so she should’ve left. And her husband is the a*****e for not telling her to leave when she put the stipulation on his child. Now he’s not even allowed unsupervised visit so he sounds like a real winner to begin with, but he knew his wife had a problem with his kid and stayed with her. Both a******s, and the baby mama is in jail. This kid is already f****d.
So according to Custody Xchange supervised visits are also mandated when a parent has been absent from the child's life and wants to start a relationship with it. So nothing horrible may be wrong with Dad. It's sad OP wouldn't want to put up a brave face for eight months, probably less, but an eight-year-old can't be fooled anyway, so off to the opposite coast it is. Let's hope everyone lies about why there was no other option.
It's not a "brave face" she would be putting on, she wouldn't be honoring her very reasonable boundary that she set in place almost a decade ago. Just because her husband is an àss, she should sacrifice her dignity and self respect?! There's a saying, "give them an inch, and they'll take a mile" and this would absolutely apply. I 100% guarantee that if she allowed his kid to move in for that time, it would be a reoccurring theme after mom is released. "He stayed with us for six months. What's it gonna hurt that he comes to stay every other weekend now?" On top of that, she would have to play stepmom for six friggin months! "OP should just bite the bullet and take up her husband's burdens that came with his infidelity. She's a woman, after all. It'll be fine if her boundaries aren't respected."
Load More Replies...After 3 years supervised visitation should have ended if it was just for the transition. The OPs comments about her husband make me think he has mental health issues and that's the reason for the supervised visitation.
Good for her, dump the prick. Typical cisgender heterosexual male, can't keep it in his pants. Like most of them, he DESPERATELY wanted to "prove his fertility" and "mark his territory". It wasn't about "being a dad". His fault, his expense, his responsibility.
NTA but OP needs to bite the bullet and just file for divorce. From the post and all her subsequent comments about this "gem" of a guy, I don't think there was any point in staying married in the first place.
She was naive to think her husband's son was going to be irrelevant in their lives. If she couldnt handle it (which is fair), she should have left sooner.
Load More Replies...To be fair, all this garbage comes from Reddit. It’s way worse over there.
Load More Replies...I've been permanently banned from Reddit for telling a woman to defend herself against a sexual assault. Apparently it's okay to sexually assault women in the Reddit moderators book, but not for the woman to fight back, that's "inciting violence". LOL!!!
OP is oozing resentment and I don't understand why she stayed with her husband. They need to divorce. I feel so bad for that poor kid.
She's not oozing with resentment, she's ANGRY that she forgave her newlywed husband having a d**g relapse, an affair, and an affair baby. She just had one requirement: that she, a woman who confirmed she was childfree before hte marriage, was going to REMAIN childfree. She got him clean, he lives in her house, he forgave him everything, she just refused to be the one to clean up yet another one of his messes. And now he's decided that he can't honor that one request. OP isn't oozing resentment, they're furious that they are put in the position of having to deal with the drama and criticism of her husband declaring that HIM having a d**g fueled affair and creating an affair baby somehow means that SHE must now becomes a mother.
Her mistake was not leaving him when he cheated. He'd already proven that promises meant nothing to him. The minute there was a child from his cheating, that would have been the absolutely end of it for me.
Thank you! Everyone else is painting her a villain because she stands firm in upholding her boundaries. Which says a lot about the average persons subconscious view on women: their autonomy and dignity don't actually matter, and they can come up with a myriad of reasons why she (nor anyone else) shouldn't honor that.
I want to know what the 'father' did that warranted only supervised visits after 3 years. That is really suspect.
From her comments I suspect he has bipolar or some other psychic issues along with being a recovering addict. Honestly, I doubt he'd be given custody. You don't end up in supervised visitation for three years over minor d**g offenses or addiction. He's either got a significant record of violence or mental health issues.
Load More Replies...The only positive thing about this man, is that he wants to be there for his child. But he has been a terrible husband. I don't understand why they're still married.
Cuz OP doesn't want to pay, in any way shape or form, for her husband's actions. Divorce costs money. The divorce would be because HE fukced up. So, HE should pay for it.
Load More Replies...Strange that they did not break up when he had a child with another woman. Weird that they stayed through that but didn't expect any caregiving for the kid. Not the child's fault.
What are you talking about? It literally reads that her husband had the affair just after they got married.
But once she knew, she should have either dumped him, or accepted that he has a kid. Anyone who decides they're OK with telling a partner ~If you stay with me, your kid can't ever be here~ is a lousy excuse for a human being. The kid exists, and it's not the fault of the child - walk away, fine. But keeping your cheating partner while punishing the KID??? That's nasty.
She did accept that her husband has a kid and set boundaries of her not becoming a stepmom (as she stated on their very first date, she doesn't want kids in her life). Lemme get this right. You think that because her husband broke his marriage vows and CHOSE to violate his wife's personal boundaries, she's behaving "nasty" for staying firm in her boundaries? Because her husband has big consequences for HIS actions, she shouldn't uphold her own dignity and boundaries, she should help shoulder HIS consequences cuz "it's a child". People seriously suck, always expecting that women should be the ones to bend over anytime a child is involved but it doesn't work the other way for men. Her HUSBAND should be the person working himself into the ground to deal with HIS situation. Or allow the kid to go to a more nourishing environment, his grandparents.
No one is saying that the husband isn't to blame and it's not a woman v man situation. It seems unrealistic to expect to stay married to him and not have anything to do with the kid, that's all.
Pretending the child from his affair doesn't exist (as a way to not have to emotionally acknowledge and deal with him cheating) was never a long term solution. The fact closing her eyes; putting her hands over her ears and ignoring the 1000 ton elephant in their relationship has worked for 3 years is actually kind of impressive in its own way. She's being extremely stubborn not filing for divorce. Really, they should go together to file and end their marriage as amicably as possible. She's already emotionally checked out really. The post and responses are filled with barely suppressed contempt for him.
She's NTA for not wanting to have anything to do with affair child, but she's quite the vindictive type. She clearly doesn't love her husband (I have no idea why she's still in this marriage), and instead of just pulling the trigger on their relationship she's been waiting for him to do the paper work?
Divorce. OP is clearly not over the affair, and think husband taking. Second job does t defect their life at all. The relationship didn't really revive the affair, time to be honest about it.
The wife is a damp fool for not divorcing the husband. You can't really recover from an affair baby; especially if you plan to be child free. This relationship was never going to work because the husband had contact with the son. Both of them need to move on.
I honestly don't get why she didn't divorce him 3 years ago. I was on her side until she got to where she encouraged him to be a deadbeat dad. In this situation the partner who was cheated on has two choices: divorce or treat the child as a child. This doesn't mean taking any responsibility for the child. It means knowing if your partner has custody the child will be there and you need to act like a decent human being just like you would with any other child that's in your life.
She didn't encourage him to be a deadbeat dad. He pays child support (2 PT jobs). Didn't you see that in her post?
Load More Replies...I think they are saying that because fatherhood is more than money. It is time and if at possible, custody to any degree, which would involve the child staying at their father’s house. The father knows if he pursues that level of parenting he will lose his marriage. Everyone else is saying plenty about who is at fault, etc so I’m not touching on that…
Deadbeat dads are mainly called that for not paying child support. The OP holds no blame - except maybe for not divorcing his a**e when he cheated on her & got the other woman pregnant. His circus his monkeys, imo.
This woman is too bitter to stay married to this guy. If you can’t actually forgive the affair you should do the kind thing and move on.
She needs a friend or close fam member to knock her upside the head and tell her to get to moving on already. Like literally just stop it. This marriage was over when he cheated, full stop. Honestly it doesn't even sound like she finished processing it given how she still feels about it. That doesn't make her the bad guy but this needs to end already so she can move past the resentment and bitterness. It's not healthy to be this way
There's an update: https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/s/8ogwAJ3CGX They both suck🤦🏽♀️ and need individual therapy.
He facked around and found out. Somebody should had tell him not to betray your partner or at least use condom, either to avoid parenthood or HIV. If it was me in the shoes of the wife I would had get divorce immediately. As for the mamma concerned she got 8 months in prison w/out parole or probation? She must have a past with the Law.
Strategically I believe it's better to be the Petitioner when getting a divorce. Even in an amicable one.
NTA - she's set her boundaries and he should just go. She owes him nothing and the kid is not her problem.
Of course the internet is full of people crying that after forgiving her husband for having a d**g relapse and an affair after marriage (a confirmed CHILD FREE marriage), after letting him live in her home and getting him in rehab and clean, after forgiving and moving on despite knowing he now has an affair ...OP isn't willing to also be a mom. Everyone cries "but the kid is innocent!" and "oh you're just mad at your husband you vengeful resentful harpy you don't know what forgiveness or love is." When all that's happened is that a woman said "No, YOU having an affair, a relapse, a child, and a savior complex doesn't mean I'm required to change my entire life and become a mother against my will."
Update summary: big, long talk; wife: “I won’t sleep if we divorce”; husband breaks down; marriage counselor visit; he doesn’t want to be an active parent but feels obligated, wants to stay married; kids went to grandparents in Virginia; she gave him airline points and did laundry for him to visit the kids, he stayed up all night gaming and missed the flight; he is crabby and continuing gaming.
The woman is the a*****e, from the minute she found out her husband was cheating, and then had a kid. She should’ve walked. Because you can never be sure that for one reason or another, your husband might not have to take on full custody. S**t happens people die, people go to jail, she knew she didn’t want this child in her life so she should’ve left. And her husband is the a*****e for not telling her to leave when she put the stipulation on his child. Now he’s not even allowed unsupervised visit so he sounds like a real winner to begin with, but he knew his wife had a problem with his kid and stayed with her. Both a******s, and the baby mama is in jail. This kid is already f****d.
So according to Custody Xchange supervised visits are also mandated when a parent has been absent from the child's life and wants to start a relationship with it. So nothing horrible may be wrong with Dad. It's sad OP wouldn't want to put up a brave face for eight months, probably less, but an eight-year-old can't be fooled anyway, so off to the opposite coast it is. Let's hope everyone lies about why there was no other option.
It's not a "brave face" she would be putting on, she wouldn't be honoring her very reasonable boundary that she set in place almost a decade ago. Just because her husband is an àss, she should sacrifice her dignity and self respect?! There's a saying, "give them an inch, and they'll take a mile" and this would absolutely apply. I 100% guarantee that if she allowed his kid to move in for that time, it would be a reoccurring theme after mom is released. "He stayed with us for six months. What's it gonna hurt that he comes to stay every other weekend now?" On top of that, she would have to play stepmom for six friggin months! "OP should just bite the bullet and take up her husband's burdens that came with his infidelity. She's a woman, after all. It'll be fine if her boundaries aren't respected."
Load More Replies...After 3 years supervised visitation should have ended if it was just for the transition. The OPs comments about her husband make me think he has mental health issues and that's the reason for the supervised visitation.
Good for her, dump the prick. Typical cisgender heterosexual male, can't keep it in his pants. Like most of them, he DESPERATELY wanted to "prove his fertility" and "mark his territory". It wasn't about "being a dad". His fault, his expense, his responsibility.
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