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“None Of Her Pains Are My Concern”: Woman Sparks 5-Hour Mid-Flight Drama By Refusing To Help A Pregnant Woman

“None Of Her Pains Are My Concern”: Woman Sparks 5-Hour Mid-Flight Drama By Refusing To Help A Pregnant Woman

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Let’s face it: airplane coach seats aren’t designed for comfort. So, if you’re heavy-set, pregnant, or both, they can be problematic. 

In this story, a passenger with two plane seats under her name refused to give one of them up to a pregnant and overweight woman. Her reason: she’d paid for both and would gladly sell it to the lady instead. 

The author’s reaction caused a slight commotion, but she did not fold. However, she wonders if she was in the wrong and seeks answers from the AITAH subreddit. 

Bored Panda also spoke with veteran Philippine Airlines flight attendant Kaz Icalina to get her input on passenger rights.

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    A woman with an extra seat refused to give it to a pregnant passenger

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    The author didn’t fold and received dirty looks in return

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    The author had the right to do whatever she wanted with her extra seat

    It’s understandable to empathize with the woman in the story because pregnancy takes a toll on the body. However, regardless of her situation, it does not entitle her to anything. 

    According to Kaz, flight attendants can only do so much, especially during full flights. They could ask a passenger if they would accept a seat switch. If they decline, they won’t try to convince otherwise. 

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    Unfortunately, the pregnant woman had no choice but to accept the rejection.

    “Passengers have rights, and flight attendants can’t choose one over the other for humanitarian reasons,” she said, adding that you can’t force anyone to give up seats unless a legal reason is involved. 

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    The woman could have made pre-flight arrangements to accommodate her situation

    The pregnant woman knew fully well that a coach seat would be uncomfortable. According to Kaz, the least she could have done was to make pre-flight seat arrangements. 

    As she explained, many airlines offer a “neighbor-free” option. This allows passengers to book an extra seat even if they are traveling alone. 

    “She can’t rely on the kindness of people to give up their space.”

    In this story, the woman could have done either one of two things: agreed to buy the author’s extra seat or accepted the situation. Her hostility put her in a bad light and possibly caused unnecessary stress that may have impacted the child somehow. It’s a lose-lose situation she could have avoided. 

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    What’s your take, dear reader? What could they have done to prevent the situation from escalating? 

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    I'm a Visual Editor at Bored Panda, crafting captivating visual content to enhance every reader's experience. Sometimes my mornings are spent diving into juicy dramas, while afternoons are all about adding extra laughs to the world by editing the funniest memes around. My favorite part of the job? Choosing the perfect images to illustrate articles. It's like imagining a story as a movie in my mind and selecting the key shots to tell the story visually.

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    Ace
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, no. The ticket being scanned part of the story was not thought through - as one commentor pointed out that's not how it works - all else apart, eve if the agent had scanned it it without a passenger physically at the desk, the flight's boarding list would be showing one passenger missing. ETA: OK, so this could theoretically happen if both the check-in agent _and_ the gate staff scanned the extra ticket/boarding pass, or if she had herself done a self check-in for the child who by that point she'd have known was not travelling, printed off the boarding pass, taken it with her and got the gate agent to scan it. Naah, it's still a no from me.

    P Peitsch
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Generally speaking, you have right. But everywhere are working people, and people are making sometimes mistakes. So, I give a chance, that this story may have happened, especially right after Covid-time, when things just started opening up again.

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    Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm morbidly obese. If I needed to fly, I would have to buy two seats. If this woman is heavy enough to need an extra seat, she can pay for it.

    justagirl
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Props for not being a stick in the mud! (Tell bouche and audi i send pets)

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    Marianne
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand the issue. Why would the other lady want to have the middle seat instead of her aisle seat? If the middle seat is free and OP's stuff is lying there, the other lady already wins, because she is not crammed in by another person and I'm sure it would have been ok if she just removed the arm rest. She has more space, but is still in her seat. Voilà, everyone is happy.

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m guessing the pregnant lady wanted the entire seat, perhaps to lay down/lean/put her legs up on? Or perhaps she was overweight enough to want/need to (I’m sorry, I don’t know how to put it in a more polite way) “spread out” onto both seats? I have family members who are morbidly obese, and they need more than just “armrest room” when they fly - they require two seats because their lower body parts absolutely do not fit into one seat.

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    Ace
    Community Member
    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, no. The ticket being scanned part of the story was not thought through - as one commentor pointed out that's not how it works - all else apart, eve if the agent had scanned it it without a passenger physically at the desk, the flight's boarding list would be showing one passenger missing. ETA: OK, so this could theoretically happen if both the check-in agent _and_ the gate staff scanned the extra ticket/boarding pass, or if she had herself done a self check-in for the child who by that point she'd have known was not travelling, printed off the boarding pass, taken it with her and got the gate agent to scan it. Naah, it's still a no from me.

    P Peitsch
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Generally speaking, you have right. But everywhere are working people, and people are making sometimes mistakes. So, I give a chance, that this story may have happened, especially right after Covid-time, when things just started opening up again.

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    Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm morbidly obese. If I needed to fly, I would have to buy two seats. If this woman is heavy enough to need an extra seat, she can pay for it.

    justagirl
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Props for not being a stick in the mud! (Tell bouche and audi i send pets)

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    Marianne
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand the issue. Why would the other lady want to have the middle seat instead of her aisle seat? If the middle seat is free and OP's stuff is lying there, the other lady already wins, because she is not crammed in by another person and I'm sure it would have been ok if she just removed the arm rest. She has more space, but is still in her seat. Voilà, everyone is happy.

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m guessing the pregnant lady wanted the entire seat, perhaps to lay down/lean/put her legs up on? Or perhaps she was overweight enough to want/need to (I’m sorry, I don’t know how to put it in a more polite way) “spread out” onto both seats? I have family members who are morbidly obese, and they need more than just “armrest room” when they fly - they require two seats because their lower body parts absolutely do not fit into one seat.

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