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Man Starts Resenting Wife After She Almost Dies Because Of Pregnancy, Asks For Divorce
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Man Starts Resenting Wife After She Almost Dies Because Of Pregnancy, Asks For Divorce

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Even though most women are naturally able to have children, not all of them are made out of mother material. And we, as a society, are doing a great job at spreading the message that motherhood is a choice, not the inevitable or obligation, making people already more accustomed to this idea. However, there are still times when women crumble under societal pressure, which leads them to make choices they don’t necessarily want. 

This Reddit user recently shared how she was set on not having children but her partner said all the right things to convince her otherwise. After she gave in and endured a traumatic pregnancy and postpartum period, her husband decided to leave. Despite him wanting a clean slate, she wasn’t going to be a single mom and passed the full daughter’s custody to him, turning the tables around. 

Scroll down to find the full story and conversation with Christina Rhyser, parental wellness educator, coach, and founder of Parental Burnout Center, who kindly agreed to talk with us more about non-custodial mothers.

Admittedly, not all women are made to be mothers

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This Redditor felt like she definitely wasn’t cut out to be a mom, but her partner convinced her otherwise, and now she’s suffering the consequences

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The number of non-custodial mothers is growing

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Even though most women work and earn similarly to men, even outperforming them in some ways, they are still the ones who primarily care for their children. In fact, they spend at least twice the amount of time than men do trying to juggle childcare and household responsibilities in addition to their personal activities.

In the case of divorce, 2018 data shows that almost 80% of the time custodial rights are passed down to women. It’s a 2.6% decline from 2014, showing that the number of non-custodial mothers is growing.

Despite paying more in child support than fathers (almost double) and being significantly less likely to abandon their children after divorce, female parents are still seen as horrible mothers when they give up their children’s custody rights. Unfortunately, over 2 million non-custodial mothers in the US have to live with such a perception every day.

“I don’t believe it is ever fair to judge a woman (or a man) for giving up their custodial rights, whether they were pressured into becoming parents or not,” says Christina Rhyser, parental wellness educator, coach, and founder of Parental Burnout Center to Bored Panda. “Judging others for difficult choices only brings shame and division and pushes them further away from receiving any help they might need.”

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Even though we might not approve of such behavior, no human should ever be stripped of respect, she says. We need to understand that sometimes the best thing a parent can do for their children is to let go of them.

“Having grace for one another is not the same as granting blanket approval for any/all behaviors. All choices have desirable and undesirable outcomes that must be accepted—but one of these outcomes should NEVER be being stripped of our inherent value as humans, who are always worthy of dignity and respect. Judgment has no place here.”

One reason why parents might feel the need to leave their children is parental burnout

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One big reason why parents might feel the need to leave their children is parental burnout. “Parenthood is stressful enough as it is when freely chosen, but when obligation comes into play, the stress can become insurmountable and may ultimately lead to child abandonment (among other risks),” explains Rhyser.

“Parental burnout is a real, diagnosable (and treatable) syndrome caused by trying too hard for too long to manage too much parenting stress without enough resources. Emotional exhaustion; emotional distancing from our kids; and a lost sense of joy and fulfillment in the parental role are three main symptoms,” she says.

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More extreme cases of burnout can manifest in yelling and uncontrolled outbursts, feelings of exasperation and confinement, longing for a different lifestyle, fantasizing about ways to escape from their families, as well as self-harm and substance abuse. “It’s no laughing matter, to say the least,” stresses Rhyser.

Often, people who surround mothers aren’t any help either. They are often guilty of providing advice like “Just take a nap,” “Be more patient,” “Stop freaking out,” “Keep pushing through,” or “Enjoy it while you can.”

“If only it was that easy,” says Rhyser. “What if she needs more help than that? What if she needs an extended break? What if she doesn’t want to be a mom anymore? We need to be able to ask and answer these questions without fear of condemnation
and judgment.”

Rhyser stresses that it’s important that we acknowledge that all women are unique, individual human beings whose needs, desires, and contributions matter the exact same as anyone else’s. “Choosing to become—or not to become—a mother is possibly the most personal and life-changing decision to be made. To allow women the freedom to make this choice for themselves is a matter of human dignity at its most fundamental level.”

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Hi, glad you swung by! My name is Austėja, and I’m a writer at Bored Panda. With a degree in English philology, I’m interested in all aspects of language. Being fresh out of university, my mission is to master the art of writing and add my unique touch to every personal story and uplifting article we publish. In my time here, I’ve covered some fun topics such as scrungy cats and pareidolia, as well as more serious ones about mental health and relationship hiccups. When I’m not on my laptop, you’ll probably find me devouring pastries, especially croissants, paired with a soothing cup of tea. Sunsets, the sea, and swimming are some of my favorite things.

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Hi, glad you swung by! My name is Austėja, and I’m a writer at Bored Panda. With a degree in English philology, I’m interested in all aspects of language. Being fresh out of university, my mission is to master the art of writing and add my unique touch to every personal story and uplifting article we publish. In my time here, I’ve covered some fun topics such as scrungy cats and pareidolia, as well as more serious ones about mental health and relationship hiccups. When I’m not on my laptop, you’ll probably find me devouring pastries, especially croissants, paired with a soothing cup of tea. Sunsets, the sea, and swimming are some of my favorite things.

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Bowtechie
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yikes. That kid is going to have it rough because she was born to two people who really shouldn't have had kids in the first place. I'm definitely on the ESH train. Honestly, if she would have given her up for adoption if her husband had died, she may as well take that same course now because he clearly does not want to be a father any more than she wants to be a mother.

Sathe Wesker
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I completely agree with all of this. Definitely on the ESH train as well, but I gotta admit that first YTA I really agreed with too. When I read she just kissed her daughter and left her with a violent man who just admitted he didn’t want the responsibility. I was stunned. She couldn’t have ANYONE to help her for at least that one night? Nah, both seem really off to me.

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Adz86
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You should need to pass a test to be able ro reproduce. These people where both incapable of genuinely loving a child from the get go. Poor kid I hope she gets adopted to a nice family before she's too old to remember how bad these monsters are.

Sojourner
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sex and reproduction are one of the few things the rich and poor can both have. Making people have to pass a test is inhumane.

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AbandonAllHope
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men do the same s**t all the time, they refuse to use BC and this asshat coerced her int o having a baby, then has the gall to get mad cuz he has to take responsibility??? F that noise. She did the right thing.

lenka
Community Member
1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes everyone is an AH and the only one who loses out here is the baby. But I would like to point out the absolute double standard of the comments on this post. Men do this to women every f*****g day (supported by statistics on single parent households worldwide). They refuse sole custody of their kids, refuse the have the kids half of the time or during the hard slog of mid week school/life/parenting and often only want their kids on weekends so they can be the fun dad and still live their life. And Yes, yes #notallmen. But I work in family law and I see it enough to know that it is a lot of men. The number of men who come to me and say I want to spend time with my kid(s) but only on [my terms] is so astounding. So to everyone who has stated or implied that the mother is a piece of s**t for not wanting to be a single parent while failing to recognize that the vast majority of single parents are women because men abandon their kids ALL THE TIME without the suffering the staggering hate, really need to check their bias.

LittleWombat
Community Member
1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

THIS SHOULD BE NUMBER 1!!! I can VOUCH for how f'ing hard it is to be a single disabled mother, while my kid's dad shows up once every month or 2 to be the fun guy for a few hours. He is out every weekend with his girlfriend for getaways, during the week with his friends, the fun never ends for him. No one judges him - he's the dad. But if I did the same thing as a mom?! Even as someone who can barely walk, I'd still be thought of as garbage. I'm thrilled I have my daughter, no doubt! But the OP obviously KNEW how things go and didn't want this lonely life that takes everything out of you when she was very clear w this guy that she was never going to go through it. Obviously the guy doesn't want that life for himself either... but he doesn't seem to want adoption. He wants the OP to keep her and do all the work so he can stop by and be the fun dad once in a while too.

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Kay
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the mother is just extremely honest about not being able to be the primary parent for the child with her health issues. She does not sound like an ah to me, she sounds mature and like she knows of her limitations and wants the best for her daughter. "What good will I be for her in 8-10 years when I can't work anymore" this hit hard

Bookworm
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes I feel like everyone is just glossing over OP's health issues. I think if the father doesn't want her then they should be looking at giving their daughter up for adoption.

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cyndi hafele
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor Ramona. One day she'll be old enough to understand that neither of her parents wanted her. I don't know how a child gets over that.

Abraxas59
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a child of a father as killed my mother I can answer that you don’t ! It sticks with you ok slightly diff but in my case my father didn’t want me either my grandmother bought me up and he blamed me for mum dying when I was 8 mths old I only found out the awful truth when I was 46 he hated me blamed me so ramona will feel lost hurt insecure all her life cos of them she will never get over it

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WonderWoman
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Society rarely knocks a man for walking out the door in a divorce and leaving the kids behind. This is the same thing with the roles reversed. She told him upfront that she would never be a single mother and she is sticking to it. Men walk out every single day and society doesn't even give them a side eye, they are accepted in polite society. Single moms though, they are the bad guys. That neither parent want full custody of this child is very sad and she would probably do better in a different home.

FluffyDreg
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While i feel bad for the child. Blaming the mom is foolish and short sighted. (Aside from leaving daughter with a violent and unstable man.) Peoples primary "solution" is for mom to.... break herself physically and mentally on a hard task she wasn't going to be able to do well while able, much less disabled. She wants to be there but is aware that she simply physically cannot do it. She would end up in the hospital. So her first thought is to have the man who preassured her into having their child have full custody. Because he wanted a child in the first place. I do think, in this case, trying to force her onto the abusive man who doesn't want her is stupid. Adoption should be the way she goes.

Calunii
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My issue is that it seems that she had already decided that she would abandon her child even before the health issues. She indicated that she wouldn't want to be a single mom and therefore was hesitant on having children. However, the moment you do decide on having a child you need to take responsibility. As someone else mentioned, the 'dad' could have also died. Anything could lead you to becoming a single parent. If you're not up for that simply don't have children. It's that easy. I hope they do put the child up for adoption because neither deserve her

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Atom Bohr
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this is why every person thinking of having a child should fully understand and accept that pregnancy can cause life changing and ending complications, and that they might well end us as a single parent in the future. If they aren't fully able to accept and embrace both potential futures, they shouldn't be having children. End of.

Bernd Herbert
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What an a*****e. His wife almost died and he’s blaming her for that then? I don’t get it.

Lyoness
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Me neither, but a shocking number of married people bail when things get rough. Illness, disability, death of a child or family member, dealing with a child with special needs. These things can either bring a couple together or tear them apart and in this case it's definitely the latter. Poor kid. Fingers crossed she's adopted.

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Janelle Collard
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel sorry for OP + the baby. The ex just wants to be single so he can start over. A**h***e.

Julia Cargile
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please, put that child up for adotion so someone can love her likes she deserves.

Nimitz
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Calling b******t on the "I would never abandon her" stuff. The father becomes irrational and starts seeming violent so she kisses the baby on the head and leaves her in a potentially dangerous situation? I've been in that situation, worrying about a baby being in danger from someone who's a threat. Constantly checking and freaking out, doing your best to ensure the baby's safe while being trapped in a horror show. No no no no no. These are BAD people and that kid is not safe. F**k that guy and f**k her too. Self centered and abusive parents should be prosecuted, but instead they commit crimes and get off the hook over and over

Broad Panda
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like the Dad thought his wife would do all the baby care, so he resents her, and the Mum spent so much time away from her baby that she possibly didn't bond to her. This whole mess is heartbreaking.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Find an adoptive family for Ramona asap. Dad is violent and Mom can't be a single mother. Don't subject her to years of fighting over who has to take her. There are good parents out there, go through a reputable agency and find her a safe and loving home.

DeadCat WithAFlamethrower
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How to tell which commenters on Reddit have never had kids: anyone who blamed the mother even after she stated she literally didn't have the physical health due to what sounds like downplayed disability to be a single parent, much less ever wanted to be one.

Bookworm
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA for not wanting full custody of the daughter. She signed up for co-parenting a child, not single motherhood because ex-husband can't be bothered (and probably won't even pay child support). YTA for leaving the daughter with Alex once it became clear he was trying to shove her off onto OP. Forcing a baby onto a 'borderline violent' man who wants to get rid of her... there's no excuse. You don't have to take her yourself, but you need to find someone else (adoption), because Alex is an unfit parent.

Mark Childers
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it so funny that men do this all the time. My own father did this. But a woman puts herself first, and everyone has a problem with it. If the husband wants children, he should take care of them when the wife does not. Childcare is on both parents, not just the mother.

Alexandra
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do women n always have to bear the brunt of men unwilling to take care of their children? This whole story has 2 victims: the child, for obvious reasons and the mother because despite her limited capacity to do so, her ex-husbands callous attitude towards his child will force her into making decisions that are bad for her and the child. He agreed on having a child and he should take responsibility. Obviously leaving the child with him will result, inevitably, in harm to the child. So, make him pay not only for child maintenance, but also for the added help the mother needs in order to care for her child full-time. Also, it's not as if the mother doesn't want to take care of her child: she wants her father to take care of the child as well. Is that such a strange thing to ask?

Meagan Glaser
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny how if a woman wants shared custody, it's "abandoning" the child. Everyone screams about how the kid is totally unwanted and mom isn't willing to do 50/50. Apparantly we're still stuck on "kids are the moms job"

StumblingThroughLife
Community Member
1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Coercion is always a fail. She wasn't eager to have kids due to her health & not ending up being a single parent (not all women get broody/motherly), because she knew she wouldn't cope (not a good mix) but his assurances turned out to be lies. Some peeps out there don't have motherly urges. It's something that happens in all species. I don't think she's an AH, I think he is - by coercing her into have a baby and then went back on all his promises, and it's obvious he expected her to bring up their child alone, while he walked away with his self-righteous attitude. How dare a woman not be the nurturer, eh? I Couldn't walk away myself, but I am trying to be fair. It just annoys me that it's always women who get treated like s**t when they aren't physically or emotionally able to cope with bringing up kids alone - especially when emotionally blackmailed/assured by their OH that they'll stay by their side if they agree to have one.

Deborah B
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OFFS, just give the kid up for adoption if neither of you is interested in being a primary parent. He's definately an a*****e, pushing for a kid, then dumping his wife when pregnancy destroys her health, and thinking he can leave his disabled wife as sole parent of a baby, then dumping the baby on him mum. But she's an a*****e too, walking out and leaving the baby with the man who was becoming violent. Yeah, you told him up front you didn't plan to ever be a single parent, but as we all say to the deadbeat dads, the kid is here, it's your responsibility, and you should be taking 50% custody. If neither of you is willing to take 50% custody, let alone more, then place the baby for adoption.

Nina
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really have the feeling people are missing the part thr mother is still disabled and has to do a lot more to manage her health than before her pregnancy. If you know you're going to drown if you need to carry another person, doesn't it make more sense to have someone else do the geavy lifting? Looks like the dad is resenting the work it takes to raise a child, instead of stepping up when his wife got ill he got pissed he actually needed to take care of his own child. So despite all his reassurances she didn't need to carry the load alone, now that is exactly what he wants her to do.

Roberta Schrote
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mothers always seem to get vilified for putting their own goals first. I don't think I have ever seen a man criticized for choosing his career as the top priority. Even today, in 2024, ,stay-at-home-fathers often get the gimlet eye. Double standard per usual. I don't think OP is wrong and she's well rid of her immature husband.

Lisa
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's not an a$$hole. People who are dogging her are the a$$wipes. T she was honest about never wanting to be a single mother and now has health problems due to the pregnancy. She was willing to be raise a child with a life partner but not to do it alone.

Beth Wheeler
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Husband is a complete jerk because life isn't all hunky dorie because of her having major medical problems that almost killed her. He doesn't want her or the be baby after pushing for kids. She doesn't want any custody at all because of her problems and would have put her up for adoption if he had died even if she wasn't sick They need to do a private adoption for this baby since neither of them want her.. I can't imagine not wanting my kids.

Ioana Mircea
Community Member
1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both are a-holes but men need to understand a kid is their responsibility too, especially when they're the one pressing their wife to have those kids. Some women are not fit to be mothers and some, like this woman are willing to actually admit it. In her place I would've devised a prenup mentioning the terms. Fk that. If men do it to protect their assets, so can women to protect their mental health. PS: are people here really ignoring the fact this woman nearly died and the a-hole is the one upset and "out of love"??? For that alone he deserves to have to take care of that kid and be a full time parent. You wanted kids? There you go. Oh? You don't want to be a single dad?? too bad. She neither wants to be a single mom and would not have been one if you would not have insisted on the baby topic :) PPS: I do agree, this kid deserves to be adopted by a family that loves her :)

CBolt
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA What a sad situation & OP has been so rational in facing her limitations, despite the harsh criticism. Imagine the s***storm that's going to rain down on her if they do give up this little girl for adoption. Given his behavior, the father doesn't deserve to have joint custody, much less sole custody. What's his problem anyway? He had some romanticized idea of parenthood, gave OP assurances abt his participation in parenting so she agreed to have achild. She had a very difficult & dangerous pregnancy &, post partum, came close to dieing. So, Dad becomes angry at her - did he think she was faking all this? Furthermore, he had to do the things he had assured OP he would do: be a parent. And that made him angry too. It was hard. It wasn't all rainbows & unicorns - it was work (glad he got to see what moms go through). So now he wants out - OP has health issues & babies need so much of your time & attention - not what he signed up for. And he doesn't really want custody, even shared -

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
Community Member
1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something about this... well multiple somethings about this whole story feel off. Im not saying its fake, though I wouldn't be remotely surprised if it was. But at very least a ton of info is missing and things dont add up. Best case scenario if its real and close to accurate ESH so so so much. Except the poor probably fake child.

Sarah Matsoukis
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't have kids if you don't really want to. It just won't end well.

Marno C.
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really wish someone asked OP, "Are you saying that due to your health conditions you are now physically unable to care for your child 1-1 only for a couple of days every couple weeks? How does your physical condition affect your return to work? Would you have the ability to work less but childcare more if the finances were different?" OP seems to implying some of this but not outright saying it. I'd want to know before rendering judgment. Some health conditions make it very challenging to raise a child without someone to help nearby.

Space Invader
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First YTA is contradictory, because if the husband is an AH too (as they admit), it should be ESH.

Anna V
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor child... that is why some people should never become parents. You don't become a parent under conditions

Lola July
Community Member
13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This child is young enough to be adopted quickly! She will not sit in foster care. They should finally do the best for their child and give her to a family that is longing to have her. The mother isn't doing her child right by trying to force the "father" to be a father. Obviously she isn't healthy mentally or physically either. They are both TA's unless they let her go.

Betsy S
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All these YTA commenters have NO idea what it's like to be a single parent with physical disabilities. You think it's hard with a body that works? And with a co-parent? Try doing it with a body that's completely unreliable and no co-parent to spell you off or work at it WITH you. This woman seems to understand her own limitations and how harmful her situation would be to both her child and herself, if she were to take on disabled single-parenthood. I respect her for putting her child first, even though it's difficult. But I also agree with those who say to put the child up for adoption, and don't let that man raise her either.

Kirsten Kohler
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It really doesn't matter who the AH is in this situation but the best you can do for your daughter is to give her up for adoption, she deserves so much more than 2 people that will resent her, she is young enough to forget both of you and life a happy life with 2 parents that will love her unconditionally - it just makes me sad but I was unable to have any more children after my son - there will be a family out there for her wishing you all the best

Kirsten Kohler
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what give her up for adoption, it's no good throwing around who the AH is in this - your daughter deserves more and in her best interest it would not be good to stay with either of you, hope everything works out for her, best of luck. I could not have any more children after my son and would happily adopt.

tori Ohno
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A man so weak that he becomes hateful to his wife just because she gets sick is an abomination. The wife has already admitted to being open to put the baby up for adoption, so just do it. Neither want her. This is why I'm so terrified of our reproductive rights being taken away from us. Too many unwanted kids. These two would have been fine if he hadn't been such a selfish jackwad.

Curry on...
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor little girl. They both suck. Dad is the worse of the two in my opinion. He wanted the child. He either has someone waiting on him, or he's looking forward to being free and single.

Megan Tones
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a horrible situation. If the child stays with the parents, they will all need a lot of support. This is why both parents need to be 100% on board with having children and discuss scenarios like what if one parent becomes severely disabled or dies (or what if the child has a serious disability). It's not something you can really compromise on. You cannot have 1/2 a child.

Jessi Pirkle
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there is still love from her parents then some kind of sharing the parental responsibilities is the correct move. Adoption is not some magical solution. Ask any adoptee. The dad here is a gd pos for acting this way when the mom almost DIED as a direct result of the pregnancy. He's a giant man baby who should be grateful he didn't become a single father widower.

Beak Hookage
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The husband sounds like an abuser. Leaving a small child with him is a terrible idea.

Ioana Mircea
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He was alone with her for months while his wife was away in the hospital. Pretty sure if he wanted to do something to the kid he would've by then. So no risk there, stop dramatizing. If she took the baby then he would've been in another state by morning and the child would've been solely in her care, which she did say she wanted to avoid.

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Id row
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wish they'd teach kids when they're young that babies are not band-aids. They will not fix anything that's broken. What would this woman have done if the father died? "I said I'll never be a single mother, you better get your zombie a$$ up over here to take care of your child." She should have known better and he has no business having custody of a child for any length of time. Shame on both of them for having this child when they're both unfit.

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spjhnx52pq
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Love is not only a feeling, it’s a set of actions that have a positive impact. This mom doesn’t love her child and neither does the dad. That poor baby needs a loving home not the toxic waste these two will heap onto her. Shame on both of these disgusting people.

Neal fy
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that she can't or doesn't want to be a single mom, but first of all, as many have said, when you *decide* you’re responsible enough to bring a brand new human into the world, you commit to being all in, no matter what, for that child—to protect them and take care of them. This has to be your number one priority because that poor baby isn’t old enough to do it themselves. So don’t start listing all the reasons you *can’t*—that’s your responsibility, and you need to take appropriate and sufficient action. Second, it feels like she doesn’t want to give him the freedom he’s hoping for after getting divorced and child-free, and she’s lowkey trying to prevent that by making sure he has the child most of the time. I *get* that—believe me, he doesn’t deserve that freedom—but she needs to get her damn head out of the sand and realize how this is affecting the poor child. Like it’s been said before, the CHILD COMES FIRST. [continued in reply: ]

Neal fy
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No matter if the dude is not deserving of freedom or blah blah blah yeah we get it, if YOU claim that you are sane, you take appropriate action, which would be to take the poor child and put her up for adoption so she can have the family she so damn deserves. Shame on all of you.

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Hoodoo
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What? Now No! You're both AHs & this little girl ought to be put up for adoption so she'll actually have a decent family. You both are missing the responsibility chip. Get yourselves sterilized ASAP... How awful

Game Guy
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dad sucks the most, by far, but Mom is trying hard to catch up. You don't leave a defenseless kid alone with a screaming maniac. And it is very much the mother in law's business - the kid got dumped with her and the kid's parents are 50/50 responsible for watching her. That doesn't mean MIL is right in what she's saying, but she's also fully within her rights to express her view on the situation she's been involuntarily dragged into. This is one of those kids that would do better getting adopted out because as parents, both of hers are c**p.

Yu Pan
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Op can say all she wants and profess her undying love, but if I were Ramona I will never believe one word she utters for as long as I live. Op should just remember, one day you'll be old and weak and I hope Ramona will shower you with the same kind of care you have shown her.

Ivona
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This woman doesn't deserve to have a child and be a mother. No normal mother would abandon her child like that. She has no maternal instincts and no love for her poor little girl.

lenka
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The father clearly doesn't want the kid full time either. What about... "This man doesn't deserve to have a child and be a father. No normal father would abandon his child like that. He has no paternal instinct and no love for his poor little girl". Why are you judging only the woman for something that clearly applies to BOTH PARENTS.

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Wow op your a piece of work lady when you choose to have kids you do it UNCONDITIONALLY, I’m a line mum now have been for 13 yrs due to divorce n he has nothing to do with them at all I’ve no back up no family but I’m damned if I’d have given up my kids for anyone ! That poor poor child having parents like you loads have issues after birth they don’t give up their kids cos of it loads get divorced again don’t give up their kids kids please please get sterilised! You do not deserve kids your I love her with all my heart yup so much you don’t want her pure evil sorry but I tell it as it is and you are some kind of wrong

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Bowtechie
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yikes. That kid is going to have it rough because she was born to two people who really shouldn't have had kids in the first place. I'm definitely on the ESH train. Honestly, if she would have given her up for adoption if her husband had died, she may as well take that same course now because he clearly does not want to be a father any more than she wants to be a mother.

Sathe Wesker
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I completely agree with all of this. Definitely on the ESH train as well, but I gotta admit that first YTA I really agreed with too. When I read she just kissed her daughter and left her with a violent man who just admitted he didn’t want the responsibility. I was stunned. She couldn’t have ANYONE to help her for at least that one night? Nah, both seem really off to me.

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Adz86
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You should need to pass a test to be able ro reproduce. These people where both incapable of genuinely loving a child from the get go. Poor kid I hope she gets adopted to a nice family before she's too old to remember how bad these monsters are.

Sojourner
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sex and reproduction are one of the few things the rich and poor can both have. Making people have to pass a test is inhumane.

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AbandonAllHope
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men do the same s**t all the time, they refuse to use BC and this asshat coerced her int o having a baby, then has the gall to get mad cuz he has to take responsibility??? F that noise. She did the right thing.

lenka
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes everyone is an AH and the only one who loses out here is the baby. But I would like to point out the absolute double standard of the comments on this post. Men do this to women every f*****g day (supported by statistics on single parent households worldwide). They refuse sole custody of their kids, refuse the have the kids half of the time or during the hard slog of mid week school/life/parenting and often only want their kids on weekends so they can be the fun dad and still live their life. And Yes, yes #notallmen. But I work in family law and I see it enough to know that it is a lot of men. The number of men who come to me and say I want to spend time with my kid(s) but only on [my terms] is so astounding. So to everyone who has stated or implied that the mother is a piece of s**t for not wanting to be a single parent while failing to recognize that the vast majority of single parents are women because men abandon their kids ALL THE TIME without the suffering the staggering hate, really need to check their bias.

LittleWombat
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

THIS SHOULD BE NUMBER 1!!! I can VOUCH for how f'ing hard it is to be a single disabled mother, while my kid's dad shows up once every month or 2 to be the fun guy for a few hours. He is out every weekend with his girlfriend for getaways, during the week with his friends, the fun never ends for him. No one judges him - he's the dad. But if I did the same thing as a mom?! Even as someone who can barely walk, I'd still be thought of as garbage. I'm thrilled I have my daughter, no doubt! But the OP obviously KNEW how things go and didn't want this lonely life that takes everything out of you when she was very clear w this guy that she was never going to go through it. Obviously the guy doesn't want that life for himself either... but he doesn't seem to want adoption. He wants the OP to keep her and do all the work so he can stop by and be the fun dad once in a while too.

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Kay
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the mother is just extremely honest about not being able to be the primary parent for the child with her health issues. She does not sound like an ah to me, she sounds mature and like she knows of her limitations and wants the best for her daughter. "What good will I be for her in 8-10 years when I can't work anymore" this hit hard

Bookworm
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes I feel like everyone is just glossing over OP's health issues. I think if the father doesn't want her then they should be looking at giving their daughter up for adoption.

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cyndi hafele
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor Ramona. One day she'll be old enough to understand that neither of her parents wanted her. I don't know how a child gets over that.

Abraxas59
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a child of a father as killed my mother I can answer that you don’t ! It sticks with you ok slightly diff but in my case my father didn’t want me either my grandmother bought me up and he blamed me for mum dying when I was 8 mths old I only found out the awful truth when I was 46 he hated me blamed me so ramona will feel lost hurt insecure all her life cos of them she will never get over it

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WonderWoman
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Society rarely knocks a man for walking out the door in a divorce and leaving the kids behind. This is the same thing with the roles reversed. She told him upfront that she would never be a single mother and she is sticking to it. Men walk out every single day and society doesn't even give them a side eye, they are accepted in polite society. Single moms though, they are the bad guys. That neither parent want full custody of this child is very sad and she would probably do better in a different home.

FluffyDreg
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While i feel bad for the child. Blaming the mom is foolish and short sighted. (Aside from leaving daughter with a violent and unstable man.) Peoples primary "solution" is for mom to.... break herself physically and mentally on a hard task she wasn't going to be able to do well while able, much less disabled. She wants to be there but is aware that she simply physically cannot do it. She would end up in the hospital. So her first thought is to have the man who preassured her into having their child have full custody. Because he wanted a child in the first place. I do think, in this case, trying to force her onto the abusive man who doesn't want her is stupid. Adoption should be the way she goes.

Calunii
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My issue is that it seems that she had already decided that she would abandon her child even before the health issues. She indicated that she wouldn't want to be a single mom and therefore was hesitant on having children. However, the moment you do decide on having a child you need to take responsibility. As someone else mentioned, the 'dad' could have also died. Anything could lead you to becoming a single parent. If you're not up for that simply don't have children. It's that easy. I hope they do put the child up for adoption because neither deserve her

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Atom Bohr
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this is why every person thinking of having a child should fully understand and accept that pregnancy can cause life changing and ending complications, and that they might well end us as a single parent in the future. If they aren't fully able to accept and embrace both potential futures, they shouldn't be having children. End of.

Bernd Herbert
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What an a*****e. His wife almost died and he’s blaming her for that then? I don’t get it.

Lyoness
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Me neither, but a shocking number of married people bail when things get rough. Illness, disability, death of a child or family member, dealing with a child with special needs. These things can either bring a couple together or tear them apart and in this case it's definitely the latter. Poor kid. Fingers crossed she's adopted.

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Janelle Collard
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel sorry for OP + the baby. The ex just wants to be single so he can start over. A**h***e.

Julia Cargile
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please, put that child up for adotion so someone can love her likes she deserves.

Nimitz
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Calling b******t on the "I would never abandon her" stuff. The father becomes irrational and starts seeming violent so she kisses the baby on the head and leaves her in a potentially dangerous situation? I've been in that situation, worrying about a baby being in danger from someone who's a threat. Constantly checking and freaking out, doing your best to ensure the baby's safe while being trapped in a horror show. No no no no no. These are BAD people and that kid is not safe. F**k that guy and f**k her too. Self centered and abusive parents should be prosecuted, but instead they commit crimes and get off the hook over and over

Broad Panda
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like the Dad thought his wife would do all the baby care, so he resents her, and the Mum spent so much time away from her baby that she possibly didn't bond to her. This whole mess is heartbreaking.

FreeTheUnicorn
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Find an adoptive family for Ramona asap. Dad is violent and Mom can't be a single mother. Don't subject her to years of fighting over who has to take her. There are good parents out there, go through a reputable agency and find her a safe and loving home.

DeadCat WithAFlamethrower
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How to tell which commenters on Reddit have never had kids: anyone who blamed the mother even after she stated she literally didn't have the physical health due to what sounds like downplayed disability to be a single parent, much less ever wanted to be one.

Bookworm
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA for not wanting full custody of the daughter. She signed up for co-parenting a child, not single motherhood because ex-husband can't be bothered (and probably won't even pay child support). YTA for leaving the daughter with Alex once it became clear he was trying to shove her off onto OP. Forcing a baby onto a 'borderline violent' man who wants to get rid of her... there's no excuse. You don't have to take her yourself, but you need to find someone else (adoption), because Alex is an unfit parent.

Mark Childers
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it so funny that men do this all the time. My own father did this. But a woman puts herself first, and everyone has a problem with it. If the husband wants children, he should take care of them when the wife does not. Childcare is on both parents, not just the mother.

Alexandra
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do women n always have to bear the brunt of men unwilling to take care of their children? This whole story has 2 victims: the child, for obvious reasons and the mother because despite her limited capacity to do so, her ex-husbands callous attitude towards his child will force her into making decisions that are bad for her and the child. He agreed on having a child and he should take responsibility. Obviously leaving the child with him will result, inevitably, in harm to the child. So, make him pay not only for child maintenance, but also for the added help the mother needs in order to care for her child full-time. Also, it's not as if the mother doesn't want to take care of her child: she wants her father to take care of the child as well. Is that such a strange thing to ask?

Meagan Glaser
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny how if a woman wants shared custody, it's "abandoning" the child. Everyone screams about how the kid is totally unwanted and mom isn't willing to do 50/50. Apparantly we're still stuck on "kids are the moms job"

StumblingThroughLife
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Coercion is always a fail. She wasn't eager to have kids due to her health & not ending up being a single parent (not all women get broody/motherly), because she knew she wouldn't cope (not a good mix) but his assurances turned out to be lies. Some peeps out there don't have motherly urges. It's something that happens in all species. I don't think she's an AH, I think he is - by coercing her into have a baby and then went back on all his promises, and it's obvious he expected her to bring up their child alone, while he walked away with his self-righteous attitude. How dare a woman not be the nurturer, eh? I Couldn't walk away myself, but I am trying to be fair. It just annoys me that it's always women who get treated like s**t when they aren't physically or emotionally able to cope with bringing up kids alone - especially when emotionally blackmailed/assured by their OH that they'll stay by their side if they agree to have one.

Deborah B
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OFFS, just give the kid up for adoption if neither of you is interested in being a primary parent. He's definately an a*****e, pushing for a kid, then dumping his wife when pregnancy destroys her health, and thinking he can leave his disabled wife as sole parent of a baby, then dumping the baby on him mum. But she's an a*****e too, walking out and leaving the baby with the man who was becoming violent. Yeah, you told him up front you didn't plan to ever be a single parent, but as we all say to the deadbeat dads, the kid is here, it's your responsibility, and you should be taking 50% custody. If neither of you is willing to take 50% custody, let alone more, then place the baby for adoption.

Nina
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really have the feeling people are missing the part thr mother is still disabled and has to do a lot more to manage her health than before her pregnancy. If you know you're going to drown if you need to carry another person, doesn't it make more sense to have someone else do the geavy lifting? Looks like the dad is resenting the work it takes to raise a child, instead of stepping up when his wife got ill he got pissed he actually needed to take care of his own child. So despite all his reassurances she didn't need to carry the load alone, now that is exactly what he wants her to do.

Roberta Schrote
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mothers always seem to get vilified for putting their own goals first. I don't think I have ever seen a man criticized for choosing his career as the top priority. Even today, in 2024, ,stay-at-home-fathers often get the gimlet eye. Double standard per usual. I don't think OP is wrong and she's well rid of her immature husband.

Lisa
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's not an a$$hole. People who are dogging her are the a$$wipes. T she was honest about never wanting to be a single mother and now has health problems due to the pregnancy. She was willing to be raise a child with a life partner but not to do it alone.

Beth Wheeler
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Husband is a complete jerk because life isn't all hunky dorie because of her having major medical problems that almost killed her. He doesn't want her or the be baby after pushing for kids. She doesn't want any custody at all because of her problems and would have put her up for adoption if he had died even if she wasn't sick They need to do a private adoption for this baby since neither of them want her.. I can't imagine not wanting my kids.

Ioana Mircea
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both are a-holes but men need to understand a kid is their responsibility too, especially when they're the one pressing their wife to have those kids. Some women are not fit to be mothers and some, like this woman are willing to actually admit it. In her place I would've devised a prenup mentioning the terms. Fk that. If men do it to protect their assets, so can women to protect their mental health. PS: are people here really ignoring the fact this woman nearly died and the a-hole is the one upset and "out of love"??? For that alone he deserves to have to take care of that kid and be a full time parent. You wanted kids? There you go. Oh? You don't want to be a single dad?? too bad. She neither wants to be a single mom and would not have been one if you would not have insisted on the baby topic :) PPS: I do agree, this kid deserves to be adopted by a family that loves her :)

CBolt
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA What a sad situation & OP has been so rational in facing her limitations, despite the harsh criticism. Imagine the s***storm that's going to rain down on her if they do give up this little girl for adoption. Given his behavior, the father doesn't deserve to have joint custody, much less sole custody. What's his problem anyway? He had some romanticized idea of parenthood, gave OP assurances abt his participation in parenting so she agreed to have achild. She had a very difficult & dangerous pregnancy &, post partum, came close to dieing. So, Dad becomes angry at her - did he think she was faking all this? Furthermore, he had to do the things he had assured OP he would do: be a parent. And that made him angry too. It was hard. It wasn't all rainbows & unicorns - it was work (glad he got to see what moms go through). So now he wants out - OP has health issues & babies need so much of your time & attention - not what he signed up for. And he doesn't really want custody, even shared -

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something about this... well multiple somethings about this whole story feel off. Im not saying its fake, though I wouldn't be remotely surprised if it was. But at very least a ton of info is missing and things dont add up. Best case scenario if its real and close to accurate ESH so so so much. Except the poor probably fake child.

Sarah Matsoukis
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't have kids if you don't really want to. It just won't end well.

Marno C.
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really wish someone asked OP, "Are you saying that due to your health conditions you are now physically unable to care for your child 1-1 only for a couple of days every couple weeks? How does your physical condition affect your return to work? Would you have the ability to work less but childcare more if the finances were different?" OP seems to implying some of this but not outright saying it. I'd want to know before rendering judgment. Some health conditions make it very challenging to raise a child without someone to help nearby.

Space Invader
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First YTA is contradictory, because if the husband is an AH too (as they admit), it should be ESH.

Anna V
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor child... that is why some people should never become parents. You don't become a parent under conditions

Lola July
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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This child is young enough to be adopted quickly! She will not sit in foster care. They should finally do the best for their child and give her to a family that is longing to have her. The mother isn't doing her child right by trying to force the "father" to be a father. Obviously she isn't healthy mentally or physically either. They are both TA's unless they let her go.

Betsy S
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All these YTA commenters have NO idea what it's like to be a single parent with physical disabilities. You think it's hard with a body that works? And with a co-parent? Try doing it with a body that's completely unreliable and no co-parent to spell you off or work at it WITH you. This woman seems to understand her own limitations and how harmful her situation would be to both her child and herself, if she were to take on disabled single-parenthood. I respect her for putting her child first, even though it's difficult. But I also agree with those who say to put the child up for adoption, and don't let that man raise her either.

Kirsten Kohler
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It really doesn't matter who the AH is in this situation but the best you can do for your daughter is to give her up for adoption, she deserves so much more than 2 people that will resent her, she is young enough to forget both of you and life a happy life with 2 parents that will love her unconditionally - it just makes me sad but I was unable to have any more children after my son - there will be a family out there for her wishing you all the best

Kirsten Kohler
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what give her up for adoption, it's no good throwing around who the AH is in this - your daughter deserves more and in her best interest it would not be good to stay with either of you, hope everything works out for her, best of luck. I could not have any more children after my son and would happily adopt.

tori Ohno
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A man so weak that he becomes hateful to his wife just because she gets sick is an abomination. The wife has already admitted to being open to put the baby up for adoption, so just do it. Neither want her. This is why I'm so terrified of our reproductive rights being taken away from us. Too many unwanted kids. These two would have been fine if he hadn't been such a selfish jackwad.

Curry on...
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor little girl. They both suck. Dad is the worse of the two in my opinion. He wanted the child. He either has someone waiting on him, or he's looking forward to being free and single.

Megan Tones
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a horrible situation. If the child stays with the parents, they will all need a lot of support. This is why both parents need to be 100% on board with having children and discuss scenarios like what if one parent becomes severely disabled or dies (or what if the child has a serious disability). It's not something you can really compromise on. You cannot have 1/2 a child.

Jessi Pirkle
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there is still love from her parents then some kind of sharing the parental responsibilities is the correct move. Adoption is not some magical solution. Ask any adoptee. The dad here is a gd pos for acting this way when the mom almost DIED as a direct result of the pregnancy. He's a giant man baby who should be grateful he didn't become a single father widower.

Beak Hookage
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The husband sounds like an abuser. Leaving a small child with him is a terrible idea.

Ioana Mircea
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He was alone with her for months while his wife was away in the hospital. Pretty sure if he wanted to do something to the kid he would've by then. So no risk there, stop dramatizing. If she took the baby then he would've been in another state by morning and the child would've been solely in her care, which she did say she wanted to avoid.

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Id row
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wish they'd teach kids when they're young that babies are not band-aids. They will not fix anything that's broken. What would this woman have done if the father died? "I said I'll never be a single mother, you better get your zombie a$$ up over here to take care of your child." She should have known better and he has no business having custody of a child for any length of time. Shame on both of them for having this child when they're both unfit.

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spjhnx52pq
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Love is not only a feeling, it’s a set of actions that have a positive impact. This mom doesn’t love her child and neither does the dad. That poor baby needs a loving home not the toxic waste these two will heap onto her. Shame on both of these disgusting people.

Neal fy
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that she can't or doesn't want to be a single mom, but first of all, as many have said, when you *decide* you’re responsible enough to bring a brand new human into the world, you commit to being all in, no matter what, for that child—to protect them and take care of them. This has to be your number one priority because that poor baby isn’t old enough to do it themselves. So don’t start listing all the reasons you *can’t*—that’s your responsibility, and you need to take appropriate and sufficient action. Second, it feels like she doesn’t want to give him the freedom he’s hoping for after getting divorced and child-free, and she’s lowkey trying to prevent that by making sure he has the child most of the time. I *get* that—believe me, he doesn’t deserve that freedom—but she needs to get her damn head out of the sand and realize how this is affecting the poor child. Like it’s been said before, the CHILD COMES FIRST. [continued in reply: ]

Neal fy
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No matter if the dude is not deserving of freedom or blah blah blah yeah we get it, if YOU claim that you are sane, you take appropriate action, which would be to take the poor child and put her up for adoption so she can have the family she so damn deserves. Shame on all of you.

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Hoodoo
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What? Now No! You're both AHs & this little girl ought to be put up for adoption so she'll actually have a decent family. You both are missing the responsibility chip. Get yourselves sterilized ASAP... How awful

Game Guy
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dad sucks the most, by far, but Mom is trying hard to catch up. You don't leave a defenseless kid alone with a screaming maniac. And it is very much the mother in law's business - the kid got dumped with her and the kid's parents are 50/50 responsible for watching her. That doesn't mean MIL is right in what she's saying, but she's also fully within her rights to express her view on the situation she's been involuntarily dragged into. This is one of those kids that would do better getting adopted out because as parents, both of hers are c**p.

Yu Pan
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Op can say all she wants and profess her undying love, but if I were Ramona I will never believe one word she utters for as long as I live. Op should just remember, one day you'll be old and weak and I hope Ramona will shower you with the same kind of care you have shown her.

Ivona
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1 week ago

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This woman doesn't deserve to have a child and be a mother. No normal mother would abandon her child like that. She has no maternal instincts and no love for her poor little girl.

lenka
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The father clearly doesn't want the kid full time either. What about... "This man doesn't deserve to have a child and be a father. No normal father would abandon his child like that. He has no paternal instinct and no love for his poor little girl". Why are you judging only the woman for something that clearly applies to BOTH PARENTS.

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Abraxas59
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Wow op your a piece of work lady when you choose to have kids you do it UNCONDITIONALLY, I’m a line mum now have been for 13 yrs due to divorce n he has nothing to do with them at all I’ve no back up no family but I’m damned if I’d have given up my kids for anyone ! That poor poor child having parents like you loads have issues after birth they don’t give up their kids cos of it loads get divorced again don’t give up their kids kids please please get sterilised! You do not deserve kids your I love her with all my heart yup so much you don’t want her pure evil sorry but I tell it as it is and you are some kind of wrong

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