I guess it's also about how aware the parents are. On a flight from Boston to Frankfurt I was "lucky" and had 2 newborn twins in my row, on left, one right. The parents were really nice, took care of their children, tried to calm them and said sorry after the first long screaming phase. While I cannot stand crying children (gives me severe headaches), I was fine because I felt like the parents tried their best. This is different from parents letting their children throw tantrums and kicking seats without trying to calm them or telling them to stop and apologizing to others. My parents flew regularly with me as a kid and if I had done something like that, you bet I was in big trouble.

I do have kids and I can totally understand why someone would like to have a childfree flight or at least seats. Before judging it would be good to remember that not everyone are travelling just for fun or to share fancy instagram pictures. When sitting on a economy class seat that your company hav paid on a red eye flight on a business trip waiting for the morning and next working day you really appreciate the change to get at least 2-3 hours worth of sleep during the night...

Exactly, I hate the high pitch of babies and young kids, even with earplugs it pierces my drums and trigger migraines! And, by that person's logic I could scream back as I'd be just "expressing myself" as well

"Imagine being so entitled you don't want to spend a couple hours feeling like icepicks are being jammed in your ears, with no way to escape it."

Same. I can’t stand the pitch of young kids’ RAISED voices like other people can’t bear the sound of nails scraping on a blackboard (I’d take the blackboard any day), but a baby’s screaming and crying is particularly nerve racking. I remember years ago reading of a young mother having shaken her baby to death (I was still a teenager myself then) and while the outcome was tragic of course I couldn’t help but sympathize with the young woman, imagining her having to listen to that horrible noise for hours on end and not being able to do something about it nor escape from it. This is why I have dogs and not kids. They do not make that soul destroying noise at any stage of their lives… And I also get frequent ear infections, with wearing ear plugs or in-ear headphones a definite trigger, so those are not options for me. That said, I have travelled in planes with very well-behaved kids, so I don’t know whether kids-free flights are necessarily the answer. I guess I don’t know the answer…

You're right. That should be "Imagine being so entitled that I let my kid kick another passenger in the back for three hours while I sleep the whole flight"

Yeah, you know that person is entitled as hell. Expressing themselves? gtfoh with that bs. She's the type to dump her 6 horrible children on someone else so she can go have 'me time' with 4 bottles of wine and tell them they should feel lucky to be caring for her precious angels. Meanwhile, they've already set sh*t on fire after being there for 9 seconds.

Yeah, that comment really triggered me too. My anxiety is really bad around screaming kids. I get full-on panic attacks. Meds help but I would pay extra for a child free flight. There should be child flights for them since I'm so "entitled!" I think that word is used incorrectly so often!

Expressing themselves is giggling cooing and an occasional small wha ( for a need) If a child is screaming there is a definite problem ( kid was most likely having ear pain). I do not fly But I would 100% agree to no children flights ( and add restaurant times). I raised my kids... and I want adult only time sometimes.

... gotta understand, all those children who express their rebelliousity by kicking random people's chairs are the future saviours of the entire world. So intelligent for their age - they can even read, and every 26th time get the letter right. Highly gifted, all of them. Your little back pain is nothing compared to a young Che Guevara, Mahatma Gandhi and FDR combined, but only the good sides of them, having something their ways. Also, just takes some morphine or let somebody knock you out with a baseball bat, adults can suffer and damage themselves no matter what, if it enables such a treasure to treasurize ... or was it terrorize...? ... everybody else.

It's OK to be ticked off by these things, but public is public, right? If there is a baby crying around you and a group of people, the last thing that group of people would like is to hear a second baby complaining. One is enough.

Someone needs to learn what the word entitled means.

I want child free apartments back, I'm passed that they consider those illegal yet let senior communities get away with age discrimination. I'll pay extra to go to a child free apartment complex

I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. I agree that they should make adult only flights for a higher price. As a mom, I would love to not have to deal with the rude AF people who forgot they were once children (probably hellions since they hate kids so much). I'd love to go somewhere and not have to apologize constantly to my children for adults being disrespectful and shitty towards them. Like, really? You scoff and ignore a six year old who ran ahead of you to open the door for you, complimented your shoes while you walked past, and all you could do was roll your eyes and scoff?!? The "child-free" (aka selfish sociopaths) really need to evaluate how they are treating others. It's gross. I can't believe how many times adults have been blatantly rude to my kids (who are really polite and well behaved (somehow I got freaking lucky)). BTW: THE CRIES IN THE VIDEO SURE AS S**T DONT BELONG TO A TODDLER OR CHILD. THAT IS AN INFANT! That lady is somethin' "special"

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Just because you hate kids does not mean they are going to disappear of the face of the earth for your benefit. You were once a child too, and someday you will be old, possibly too old to take care of yourself, and those same kids now that you hate so much will be the adults Compassionate enough to care for you and your problems. In other words that baby you claim gives you mental issues may well ne the person your life and care depends on one day. What goes around comes around alot more quickly than you think. If you have such a hard time then shell out the money for a private flight instead of being hateful to those of us who keep the world going, after all those kids (and children in general) will be here after you are long long gone.

The mother should be entertaining her child if he's bored. We brought so much stuff with us to entertain our son on the long flights we just did. In the end he wanted to hold his toy London Underground carriage which is a comforter for him. The only time he cried was during the overnight flight as he was over tired. Even then it wasn't for that long.

Faith in humanity DESTROYED.

This is such a clown world full of terrible nasty people.