If Kim's behaviour escalates it will lead to her trying to kidnap your babies (this may sound extreme but it seems to be heading that way). You have a lawyer so get far away.

How truly terrifying for the OP, and really sad that she's not able to enjoy this time as she gets ready for the twins arrival. I hope she is able to protect her new family

I hope her lawyer fully explains that she does NOT have to put the father's name on the birth cert at birth. Make sure, wherever she goes and whatever hospital she chooses to give girth at knows this unequivocal request. The downside is lack of child support, but I think, in this situation, this would be best. If he, later, decides to leave the GF and has shown to the OP that she is completely out of his life and is willing to be in his children's lives, then they might start to discuss adding him to the BC - which can be done at any time after birth.

This is absolutely terrifying and I also feel for the mom having to deal with this stress. Stay safe mom ❤

Kim sounds like the kind of woman that steals babies from hospitals... This would be a great Lifetime movie but since it's real life I'm actually terrified for OP and her babies.

This is super creepy snd frightening. Women like this have been known to kill the mother and take the baby(ies) by cesarean.

I worry this will lead to a murder senario...cut out the baby thing. This woman is seriously crazy...move out of state as quickly as possible...

Sounds like this Kim person has some severe NPD-tendencies as she is projecting her own pregnancy issues onto twinmama. Hopefully mama will manage to reach safety.

Request for a restraining order against these two for harrassment, stalking, emotional distress. Rather than home birth, it is safer for you to go to a hospital as there will be a lot of people and security around. Given the circumstances you may request for them not to disclose your identity and to just let in to visit authorized people by you. These people are not even mentally stable to be parents.

Wow, yeah, find a state that allows you to be the ONLY listed parent, no visitation or parental rights if possible. Move in the middle of the night, and DO NOT LOOK BACK! Don't let ANYONE know where you are, I mean it, not even your own family! Those kids don't "need their dad", they need sanity and stability!

They probably knew they weren’t the asshole but just wanted advice. And my advice is this is probably way huger than OP realizes. I get she’s been charged, but with her family I’d probably be extra protective of my babies and look up restraining order information in OP’s state.

This is horrifying.

FYI, I don't know about other states but in California the father doesn't need to be on the birth certificate. As long as he is not present at the time of signing the birth certificate he won't be included in it as is it illegal to add a parent that doesn't sign for him/herself. Also, you are not required to provide updates on your pregnancy nor birth plan/place.

Can we be updated as to how this ends? this sounds scary as hell.. I really am getting worried over here.

What. The. Hell. It's not her baby, why is she treating it like it will be? Gender reveals, baby showers, without the real mom? That makes absolutely no sense.

Kim is probably the "cut the babies out of their mom and run" type of person. OP needs to be far away from her. Why do so many women with fertility issues think it's ok to act crazy? I've known since I was in my early 20's that I'd probably never be able to have kids. Yeah, having the option taken from me sucks but ffs, it's not a viable reason to act like a jackass and treat other women like it's their fault and they somehow owe me.

Holy mother of Jesus. I’m getting scared for OP

I fear for this woman' safety as much as the children. An excellent high end lawyer might like to step in to make sure the crazies don't do something crazier. It would help his name too and pro bono would help. The police should obviously know what's going on. Everything should be documented. I don't know if she lives in a small town or NY but it all has to be done immediately. A a tattoo on the underside of their feet might also be a good idea for identity if they might leave during a visit. All her stories should help her get all rights on her own children. Police should be more than aware about this. I wish we could follow the poor babies first year. I have adult twins and it's hard enough with "normal" parents. I wish her the best!

Plain and simple: This woman should stay away from crazy and move out of the state while keeping her new address secret. Preferably to a state where the law is able to protect women from psychopathic morons.

Do not accept child support payment. You accept payment, he gets say so.

She needs to move to a non-neighboring state and then make sure she is not able to see anything in her medical records to anyone other than her mom. Set up a password protect any info from medicals.

Lol. I am not gonna post my opinion. But no sweetheart. Nta. Nta. AT ALL. miss kim needs a lobotomy.

Ok, so let me get this straight: You boyfriend impregnated you, then he left for Kim, then you notified Joe and Kim of your pregnancy and how you're having twins, Kim gets angry because she supposedly can't have a natural pregnancy, so she now treats you like a surrogate and expects that you'll be giving her your children so she can raise them with Joe. So after throwing a gender reveal party, planning a baby shower, and saying all this junk on social media about how she's gonna be a "mother" (not to mention not even inviting you to the gender reveal party), she decides that she's gonna get mad at you for being infuriated by her terribly behavior and goes to your work, breaking a ton of stuff (your car included) and screaming that your children and life were all supposed to be hers??? I HAVE NO HOPE FOR HUMANITY.

Kim is batshït crazy and shouldn't be allowed near a child. Fck her and her issues, they're her problem and if she can't deal with them, it's her own fault.

Seriously, write this story out and copywrite it. Lifetime will.pay a fortune for this. When you get a lawyer, as everyone has suggested, ask about this. This situation is sketchy as hell.

Thos is a whole new level of F***Ed up

What. The. Actual. F**k. I really hope this woman gets a good lawyer, documents EVERYTHING, and moved away so she doesn't become a f*****g Dateline episode.

Get a lawyer for sure! Also maybe set up security cameras.

Kim is 100% unstable and should be nowhere near a pet let alone a child. OP needs to file a protective order against Kim and needs to do everything she can to keep this crazy woman away from her babies. I agree with what some other people have said that it is weird that they broke up, he was with OP for three months, and then they got back together after the OP got pregnant. They are treating her like a surrogate, which she is not, and need to back off. She is NTA, but Joe and Kim sure are.