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Woman Wakes Up To Her Flatmate’s Kid Screaming At Her Door At 2AM, Calls The Police
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Woman Wakes Up To Her Flatmate’s Kid Screaming At Her Door At 2AM, Calls The Police

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Nothing good really happens at 2 a.m., does it? Well, for one Redditor this couldn’t be more true. Imagine finally drifting off to dreamland, only to be yanked back into reality by the blood-curdling screams of an 8-year-old who sounds like she’s auditioning for a horror movie.

I don’t know about you, but I’d probably be hiding under the covers at this point. And so did our Redditor when her flatmate’s kid started banging on her door in the middle of the night.

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One woman was peacefully sleeping in her room when she was woken up in the middle of the night by her flatmate’s kid, screaming at her door

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The 22-year-old woman, who lives in a shared house, called the police after her flatmate’s 8-year-old started screaming and banging on her door at 2 a.m.

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When the police and paramedics arrived, they had to sedate the child, who’d had a nightmare, and take her to the station, since she was home alone

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The mother, who was at work and left the daughter home alone, is furious at the woman because she didn’t calm down her daughter who was having a nightmare

See, the OP (original poster), a 22-year-old woman, wasn’t just renting any regular place – she shared her humble abode with quite a cast: her landlord and his 2 sons, plus a woman with an 8-year-old daughter. But on that fateful night, the landlord and his boys were away, and the OP’s flatmate, the mom, was working her usual intense schedule.

So, the stage was set: the OP, the only adult left in the house, was blissfully asleep until the nightmare began—the little girl’s nightmare, not the OP’s. At least not yet.

Can you imagine waking up to someone screaming at full volume? Well, that’s what happened to the OP, so she put on her headphones, because hey, maybe it’d stop soon, right? But the shrieks didn’t just stop at “loud background noise” and, within seconds, they escalated to pounding on her door. The kid was banging like her life depended on it.

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Now, if you’re the OP, you’re thinking, “Could it be a fire? An intruder?” Her solution was not to jump into hero mode, but to quietly lock herself in the bathroom and call emergency services. Smart and cautious. Honestly, who wouldn’t panic in that situation? I know I would.

The police heard the child’s screams through the phone, so they sped over like superheroes. But, it turns out the kid was home alone and just having a nightmare. Yep, an honest-to-goodness bad dream, but one that needed the paramedics to help calm her down, so the police took the 8-year-old to the station. But not before interrogating the OP about the whole situation.

The next morning, the OP was in for a rude awakening once again. Her flatmate was back and was not pleased. Imagine a furious mother banging on your door at sunrise, accusing you of blowing things out of proportion. She claimed the OP was a massive jerk for “overreacting” and calling the cops over a nightmare, saying she should’ve just calmed the kid down like a decent human being.

But the OP didn’t feel responsible for anything and she let Mom know exactly how she felt. She didn’t sign up to be a nanny and she didn’t even know the mom was not at home. And, in her view, busting open a door to a terrified kid at 2 a.m. could’ve been dangerous. What if it was an emergency beyond a nightmare?

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It’s normal for people to default to fight-or-flight mode when suddenly woken up in a stressful environment. This is not just survival lingo for running from bears; it’s a natural response to anything that feels threatening, whether it’s a grizzly or just a shocking noise in the middle of the night.

When faced with unexpected danger, or even a screaming kid at 2 a.m., our brains hit panic mode, often defaulting to one of these three instincts. The pros say that these responses are hardwired to keep us safe—and which one we choose often depends on past experiences and our sense of control over the situation.

However, if you’re not the one who’s dealing with the situation, it’s easy to accuse someone of being selfish for looking after themselves. Just ask the OP, she knows this all too well.

After getting an earful from the kid’s mom, the OP checked in with her own mom, who had a more community-minded take. Mom’s advice? In a shared house, a bit of support wouldn’t have hurt her, especially with a kid around. But was it fair to expect OP to jump in, especially since the little girl wasn’t her responsibility? She was just a resident in the same house, not a paid nanny.

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Living in a shared house definitely comes with some challenges, as each person has their own experiences, habits, and expectations, which can sometimes lead to conflict. Living in harmony with housemates pretty much comes down to solid communication and clear expectations.

Experts say the trick is to start with a conversation about responsibilities and boundaries, like who’s handling what chores and what everyone’s okay with doing in shared spaces.

In our story, the OP had no idea the kid was home alone. Plus, the mom never asked her to keep an eye on her daughter while she was at work.

So, was the OP justified in calling for backup, or was it an over-the-top response to a sleepy-time scare? Would you have opened the door to a terrified kid at 2 a.m., or would you have hit up the authorities, too? Let us know in the comments below.

Netizens were divided on this one, with some saying the child was not the woman’s responsibility and others arguing that she should have checked on the kid

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How do you feel about the OP's decision to call the police when she heard the child screaming?
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Ace
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4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I must be living in a parallel universe or something, because I simply cannot imagine having an 8-y-o banging on my door asking for help and not trying to help. Doesn't matter to me what may or may not be the cause, whether the mother is out, unconscious or dead, that poor child needs help before any other considerations. EDIT: I think this would actually be illegal in many European countries, where 'good-samaritan' laws require anyone to offer what help they can. If that had happened here, and the child later came to harm, then the OP would be liable for prosecution, up to manslaughter charges if they failed to help and the kid then died as a result.

Weasel Wise
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

100%. I can't comprehend the notion of not doing everything possible to help ANY child who is so clearly distressed!?! OP did the right thing by calling police when it was evident that the mother wasn't home. But I'm absolutely disgusted by the cowardice response to a little one in clear need of help. 💔

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greenideas
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her locking the door made me think of the Brian Kohberger case: roomate hears wimpering, opens the door and sees a masked man who just killed her housemates. If the child is traumatized, that's on the mom for not providing adequate care.

TribbleThinking
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother is in absolutely no position to criticise. OP had no idea what was going on and called the police as a very alarmed civic minded citizen. The mother actually owes OP an apology for disturbing her night. Did the mother even inform the little girl she was leaving her alone? The level of hysteria seems extraordinarily high.

Jonas Fisher
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can MAYBE understand calling the cops, but you're saying that if you heard a little kid crying and beating on your door, you'd just leave the kid there? It almost makes it worse that OP was so confident there was danger, because that means that in a situation with danger, OP abandoned a little kid to it. Had OP just thought the kid was screaming and sad, then trying to ignore it is not quite so bad, but that's not what happened.

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Janelle Collard
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since OP was not told by the mom that the kid was *alone* and to please keep an eye on her, I'm with OP. I would've called the cops also.

G R
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You'd call the cops if a small child you knew personally WHO LIVED IN YOUR HOUSE knocked on your bedroom door in the night? Not ask them if the house was on fire first? Not asked them what was wrong? Enjoy burning to a crisp, I guess...

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Sa Ruuu
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know OP isn't wrong but I still find it a bit messed up that they thought something was wrong and immediately abandoned a child for their own well-being. Like damn dude, you couldn't pull the child into the room and lock the door behind them?

Sera
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3 days ago

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Damn dude, this 22 year old girl valued her own life.

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arthbach
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the person thought the mother was there with the child (and that's a very reasonable thing to think) then the choice to phone the police is totally reasonable and justifiable. If she thought the child was alone, and there was danger nearby, you don't just leave a child to face danger. You don't. However, regardless, the police needed to get involved as it is not acceptable to leave an 8 year old child alone overnight. I'm not surprised they are refusing to give the child back.

martin734
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4 days ago

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just me
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the kid was so terrified they had to be sedated it seems like more than a nightmare. Would OP have been able to calm the kid down? I can see calling the police, but i probably would have checked on the kid, too, at the very least talking to her through the door.

Bookworm
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm with OP. My first thought would have been 'oh I need to give mom time to calm her down.' I think that's why she put in the headphones. When it became clear the mom wasn't there I would have been worried whether someone unknown was with her and/or assuming liability if something happened to her. With the way she was screaming I would assume something had already happened. I'm not getting sued because mom left kid alone, kid hurt herself, and I tried to help. I would have called the police too. Hiding in the bathroom was over the top though.

PFD
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You'd leave a kid screaming because you *thought she was hurt* or because you'd be worried *an 8-year-old girl was screaming in fear at being with someone unknown*? What the f**k is wrong with you? Jesus. "I would have called the cops too" is totally fair but you're describing a situation where you think an *8-year-old girl is in immediate danger* and that's a reason NOT TO ACT? I don't understand you people. I mean I'm literally beyond horrified.

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A girl
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm on the fence. If I shared common space with these folks, we'd have, at least, familiarity between us. So assuming at least a civil relationship. She knew the voice. Probably should have let the child in. That being said, if any child asked me for help, I'm on it. I don't have kids but I'll mama bear for any child.

Cronecast AtTheRisingMoon
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We need a bigger fence because whereas not being willing to potentially risk her life by running towards danger, apparently her fight of flight is "flee and hide" is human, so is basic empathy. And I admit, I tend to be a fight person, so I'd have been launching myself into the perceived melee because...a child screaming for help is not something I could ignore even if i thought there was a maniac on the other side of the door with her. So, I get that she enacted a normal human response but it was ignoring another human response that I'm surprised didn't kick in.

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Tabitha
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK. Those of us who are older would’ve looked out the window, made sure the kid was alone, then let the kid in before calling the police. We’re older and more capable of assessing the situation. But we’re talking about a 22 year old here, obviously not very life-experienced, away from home, and living around virtual strangers. It’s the middle of the night and you’re jarred out of a deep sleep by screams and banging on your door. At 22, would YOU have been able to ensure it was just the kid and not someone else, before opening the door? The kid here didn’t know what to do, so they hid and called the cops. Maybe not the kindest thing, but not an unusual response. So let’s not pile guilt onto them by looking at it from our older, experienced, and no-f***s-giving perspective, with no thought of how it would’ve affected US at 22.

G R
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Um yeah I'd be able to recognise the voice of a small child who lives with me at 22.

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Surly Scot
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ever had a 12yr old autistic kid punch you full force in your uterus so hard you take a knee? Ever had a 10yr old try to pour gasoline through you letter box and set it alight? Ever had a gang of 8yr olds outside your house trying to smash your windows with rocks, one that narrowly misses your head when you open the window to yell at them? Children left alone can be violent heathens, as a woman on her own, she did the right thing. To the YTA's saying she should've done something, it's not her job and it's not worth risking her safety because another woman is an incompetent parent. What if the child decided to accuse the woman of doing something inappropriate to her? Not worth risking. Locking herself in and calling the police was the safest thing to do.

Deborah B
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since when is it okay to leave an 8 year old home alone? If mom is relying on the neighbour to be there in case of an emergency, then that needs to be discussed in advance. We also don't know what the situation is locally. Recordings of a screaming child/crying baby, and someone banging on the door could be a ploy to get the door open. If concerned for your safety, call emergency services first.

Debbie
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In desperate times when you can't afford childcare but need to work to make ends meet, put food on the table, pay rent.

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Nin Han
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OPs side. As a single female, I would NEVER open the door to a screaming individual. I would call the cops too. Could be a trap. You never know.

G R
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's pretty obvious what a child sounds like, and OP lives with this kid, and presumably recognises the sound of her voice.

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Jean Jacket
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ladies - do not follow the cries of children. Call the cops like OP did. Maternal instincts have been used as a ploy to lure out unsuspecting women to take advantage of them. The birth-giver is the one entirely in the wrong here. Do not put yourself in unnecessary danger.

kath morgan
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You don’t leave a child that young unsupervised. That is the mother’s fault. A unrelated tenant in another room is in NO way responsible. That’s wild! Even if she had opened the door she should have called the police upon finding the child abandoned.

martin734
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yes, but the very least she could have done to check that the mother hadn't been incapacitated by an accident or that the child wasn't in immediate danger. That is what any normal adult would do.

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LittleTeapot
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because someone could have done better but didn’t doesn't make them an a*****e. The only a*****e here is the mother who leaves her kid alone in a rented room at 2am. The gal who freaked at the hysterical kid COULD have done something more immediate for her but it does not mean she SHOULD have and it doesn’t make her an a*****e for not. At most somewhat cowardly. Waaaaay too many unknown variables to make those determinations. The setup of that rental seems odd - a room without any access to a kitchen except through personal relationship with the landlord can be considered an apartment???? Does she have a bathroom at least?? Important unknowns: Did she know the mom/kid more than passing in the hallway? Is the entry to the upstairs rooms locked? How secure/safe is the area? Does the gal have any comfort with kids? Etc…

tori Ohno
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if she was screaming because her mother was lying on the kitchen floor, covered in blood, and not breathing? The person who did that to her could still be in the building. I think calling the cops and keeping your door locked is a darned good move. But what kind of idiot leaves an 8 year old alone anyway? 10 maybe, if the child is responsible, but not 8.

martin734
Community Member
4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, but what if the mum had fallen and hurt herself and needed medical help. I think that more likely than an armed home invasion and would have been my first assumption.

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painttheyellowsubgreen
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a friend, we will call him Rick. Rich works out, goes shooting, always talks about how he's going to save him family if something happened. Big strong protector. Our families went camping together. I saw this man scream like a little b***h, jump several feet in the air, and drop back down to cower behind his 4f daughter who had been behind him. Because of a spider that dropped from a tree. Don't say how you're going to act when sh*t hits the fan unless you've been there. 22 is young, woken from a dead sleep, and screaming = huge adrenaline spike. And Adrenaline is a hell of a d**g

Regina Holt
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I vote NTA. We here in the USA are told to call for help before doing stuff like CPR, putting out fire in home, things that authorities have the capacity to deal with. Start CPR or dealing with the fire after calling. If I hear someone outside my door screaming, I'm calling the police. I don't know what is going on, but I could be walking into a dangerous situation. And many nefarious acts start with using a child to lure people into dangerous situations. And the OP did not know that the mom was not home. BIG NTA

Mark Childers
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

With no way to assess the situation along with the screaming and crying, being awakened from sleep and disoriented and afraid, and having no idea if it was a trap at that hour. It happens all the time, and she had no way of knowing if this was one of them. It's been known that men will use a baby seat and sounds in secluded or isolated places to lure women. Ladies, you cannot be too careful. As hard as it is, follow this woman's example.

martin734
Community Member
4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is the more likely scenario, a home invader breaking into someone's home and instead of then breaking into the other room, playing the sound of the child that lives there screaming for help in order to lure them out? Or that the child that lives there genuinely needs help?

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Key Lime
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Time to move. You have turned your living arrangements hostile.

Elizabeth Bell
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One thing I learned after being involved in a traumatic situation (for the other people, not for me) is you cannot judge people for how they react in moments like this. People go into fight or flight, this girl did what she felt was best to keep herself safe. It may not have been what others would have done, but you can't blame someone for acting a certain way in a situation they've never been in before. The blame lies with the mother for leaving her child alone to begin with. God forbid a 22 year old woman gets scared when she hears screaming. It is not her duty to put herself in danger for someone else's child.

zims
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If this was a pattern she'd be justified in this reaction, but it sounds like the first time something like this has happened. As adults living in a society it's our responsibility to care about the people around us. That's the social contract. By ignoring someone screaming for help, and then explicitly abandoning them to whatever terrible thing she thinks is happening, she's violating the social contract. It's cowardly, irresponsible, and borderline heartless. She doesn't need to be a hero or a babysitter, just open the door and ask what's wrong. She's doing HERSELF a disservice by not assessing the situation, too. What if it was a fire the kid was trying to warn her about? If she can't be an adult about this kind of thing then she might not be old enough to be living on her own herself.

🇫🇮 Goth Nurse 🇫🇮
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WOW I could vote without being a subscriber! I hate how bright the site is now. Luckily I have adblockers so I don't have to pay for ad removal... What is this new thing on BP? But on to the post itself: That woman is weird and and an ashole. Not for calling the police, it was absolutely the right thing to do, but to leave a scared lonely child like this?? Wow!

Florapocalypse
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Completely off topic, but I love 'angry, blue-jumpered lady'. Sorry, back to the sensible replies!

Kristen Woehlke
Community Member
2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! Not your responsibility. Crazy hours or not, the child was left by her mother... Alone!

G R
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I call BS on this story. The child had the presence of mind to go outside, climb the stairs, and enter a completely separate apartment. She was in control of herself enough to actively make the decision to go find the OP. She was enough under control to be able to knock. And the whole process with OP putting on headphones, waiting, taking off headphones, calling the police, waiting for the police, must have taken a good 10 mins at least. The child may have been wailing, or screamed the OP's name, but no she was not full-on horror movie screaming like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH screaming for a full 10 minutes while also carrying out cognitively demanding tasks. So the OP'a version of events were she was scared of screaming simply doesn't add up. She was angry that a child was calling for her and decided to teach her a lesson by calling the cops on A CHILD.

Just stopping by
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow i don’t think I’ve agreed with the yta votes before but this person is just ugh. I will never understand that line of thinking.

The_Nicest_Misanthrope
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Could've at least opened the door to check someone wasn't outright kidnapping/murdering this child first. What a coward.

Sera
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes that 22 year old girl who didn't want to be murdered, so cowardly.

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Ace
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4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I must be living in a parallel universe or something, because I simply cannot imagine having an 8-y-o banging on my door asking for help and not trying to help. Doesn't matter to me what may or may not be the cause, whether the mother is out, unconscious or dead, that poor child needs help before any other considerations. EDIT: I think this would actually be illegal in many European countries, where 'good-samaritan' laws require anyone to offer what help they can. If that had happened here, and the child later came to harm, then the OP would be liable for prosecution, up to manslaughter charges if they failed to help and the kid then died as a result.

Weasel Wise
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

100%. I can't comprehend the notion of not doing everything possible to help ANY child who is so clearly distressed!?! OP did the right thing by calling police when it was evident that the mother wasn't home. But I'm absolutely disgusted by the cowardice response to a little one in clear need of help. 💔

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greenideas
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her locking the door made me think of the Brian Kohberger case: roomate hears wimpering, opens the door and sees a masked man who just killed her housemates. If the child is traumatized, that's on the mom for not providing adequate care.

TribbleThinking
Community Member
5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother is in absolutely no position to criticise. OP had no idea what was going on and called the police as a very alarmed civic minded citizen. The mother actually owes OP an apology for disturbing her night. Did the mother even inform the little girl she was leaving her alone? The level of hysteria seems extraordinarily high.

Jonas Fisher
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can MAYBE understand calling the cops, but you're saying that if you heard a little kid crying and beating on your door, you'd just leave the kid there? It almost makes it worse that OP was so confident there was danger, because that means that in a situation with danger, OP abandoned a little kid to it. Had OP just thought the kid was screaming and sad, then trying to ignore it is not quite so bad, but that's not what happened.

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Janelle Collard
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since OP was not told by the mom that the kid was *alone* and to please keep an eye on her, I'm with OP. I would've called the cops also.

G R
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You'd call the cops if a small child you knew personally WHO LIVED IN YOUR HOUSE knocked on your bedroom door in the night? Not ask them if the house was on fire first? Not asked them what was wrong? Enjoy burning to a crisp, I guess...

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Sa Ruuu
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know OP isn't wrong but I still find it a bit messed up that they thought something was wrong and immediately abandoned a child for their own well-being. Like damn dude, you couldn't pull the child into the room and lock the door behind them?

Sera
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3 days ago

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Damn dude, this 22 year old girl valued her own life.

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arthbach
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the person thought the mother was there with the child (and that's a very reasonable thing to think) then the choice to phone the police is totally reasonable and justifiable. If she thought the child was alone, and there was danger nearby, you don't just leave a child to face danger. You don't. However, regardless, the police needed to get involved as it is not acceptable to leave an 8 year old child alone overnight. I'm not surprised they are refusing to give the child back.

martin734
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4 days ago

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just me
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the kid was so terrified they had to be sedated it seems like more than a nightmare. Would OP have been able to calm the kid down? I can see calling the police, but i probably would have checked on the kid, too, at the very least talking to her through the door.

Bookworm
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm with OP. My first thought would have been 'oh I need to give mom time to calm her down.' I think that's why she put in the headphones. When it became clear the mom wasn't there I would have been worried whether someone unknown was with her and/or assuming liability if something happened to her. With the way she was screaming I would assume something had already happened. I'm not getting sued because mom left kid alone, kid hurt herself, and I tried to help. I would have called the police too. Hiding in the bathroom was over the top though.

PFD
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You'd leave a kid screaming because you *thought she was hurt* or because you'd be worried *an 8-year-old girl was screaming in fear at being with someone unknown*? What the f**k is wrong with you? Jesus. "I would have called the cops too" is totally fair but you're describing a situation where you think an *8-year-old girl is in immediate danger* and that's a reason NOT TO ACT? I don't understand you people. I mean I'm literally beyond horrified.

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A girl
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm on the fence. If I shared common space with these folks, we'd have, at least, familiarity between us. So assuming at least a civil relationship. She knew the voice. Probably should have let the child in. That being said, if any child asked me for help, I'm on it. I don't have kids but I'll mama bear for any child.

Cronecast AtTheRisingMoon
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We need a bigger fence because whereas not being willing to potentially risk her life by running towards danger, apparently her fight of flight is "flee and hide" is human, so is basic empathy. And I admit, I tend to be a fight person, so I'd have been launching myself into the perceived melee because...a child screaming for help is not something I could ignore even if i thought there was a maniac on the other side of the door with her. So, I get that she enacted a normal human response but it was ignoring another human response that I'm surprised didn't kick in.

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Tabitha
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK. Those of us who are older would’ve looked out the window, made sure the kid was alone, then let the kid in before calling the police. We’re older and more capable of assessing the situation. But we’re talking about a 22 year old here, obviously not very life-experienced, away from home, and living around virtual strangers. It’s the middle of the night and you’re jarred out of a deep sleep by screams and banging on your door. At 22, would YOU have been able to ensure it was just the kid and not someone else, before opening the door? The kid here didn’t know what to do, so they hid and called the cops. Maybe not the kindest thing, but not an unusual response. So let’s not pile guilt onto them by looking at it from our older, experienced, and no-f***s-giving perspective, with no thought of how it would’ve affected US at 22.

G R
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Um yeah I'd be able to recognise the voice of a small child who lives with me at 22.

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Surly Scot
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ever had a 12yr old autistic kid punch you full force in your uterus so hard you take a knee? Ever had a 10yr old try to pour gasoline through you letter box and set it alight? Ever had a gang of 8yr olds outside your house trying to smash your windows with rocks, one that narrowly misses your head when you open the window to yell at them? Children left alone can be violent heathens, as a woman on her own, she did the right thing. To the YTA's saying she should've done something, it's not her job and it's not worth risking her safety because another woman is an incompetent parent. What if the child decided to accuse the woman of doing something inappropriate to her? Not worth risking. Locking herself in and calling the police was the safest thing to do.

Deborah B
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since when is it okay to leave an 8 year old home alone? If mom is relying on the neighbour to be there in case of an emergency, then that needs to be discussed in advance. We also don't know what the situation is locally. Recordings of a screaming child/crying baby, and someone banging on the door could be a ploy to get the door open. If concerned for your safety, call emergency services first.

Debbie
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In desperate times when you can't afford childcare but need to work to make ends meet, put food on the table, pay rent.

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Nin Han
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OPs side. As a single female, I would NEVER open the door to a screaming individual. I would call the cops too. Could be a trap. You never know.

G R
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's pretty obvious what a child sounds like, and OP lives with this kid, and presumably recognises the sound of her voice.

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Jean Jacket
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3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ladies - do not follow the cries of children. Call the cops like OP did. Maternal instincts have been used as a ploy to lure out unsuspecting women to take advantage of them. The birth-giver is the one entirely in the wrong here. Do not put yourself in unnecessary danger.

kath morgan
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You don’t leave a child that young unsupervised. That is the mother’s fault. A unrelated tenant in another room is in NO way responsible. That’s wild! Even if she had opened the door she should have called the police upon finding the child abandoned.

martin734
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yes, but the very least she could have done to check that the mother hadn't been incapacitated by an accident or that the child wasn't in immediate danger. That is what any normal adult would do.

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LittleTeapot
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because someone could have done better but didn’t doesn't make them an a*****e. The only a*****e here is the mother who leaves her kid alone in a rented room at 2am. The gal who freaked at the hysterical kid COULD have done something more immediate for her but it does not mean she SHOULD have and it doesn’t make her an a*****e for not. At most somewhat cowardly. Waaaaay too many unknown variables to make those determinations. The setup of that rental seems odd - a room without any access to a kitchen except through personal relationship with the landlord can be considered an apartment???? Does she have a bathroom at least?? Important unknowns: Did she know the mom/kid more than passing in the hallway? Is the entry to the upstairs rooms locked? How secure/safe is the area? Does the gal have any comfort with kids? Etc…

tori Ohno
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if she was screaming because her mother was lying on the kitchen floor, covered in blood, and not breathing? The person who did that to her could still be in the building. I think calling the cops and keeping your door locked is a darned good move. But what kind of idiot leaves an 8 year old alone anyway? 10 maybe, if the child is responsible, but not 8.

martin734
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4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, but what if the mum had fallen and hurt herself and needed medical help. I think that more likely than an armed home invasion and would have been my first assumption.

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painttheyellowsubgreen
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a friend, we will call him Rick. Rich works out, goes shooting, always talks about how he's going to save him family if something happened. Big strong protector. Our families went camping together. I saw this man scream like a little b***h, jump several feet in the air, and drop back down to cower behind his 4f daughter who had been behind him. Because of a spider that dropped from a tree. Don't say how you're going to act when sh*t hits the fan unless you've been there. 22 is young, woken from a dead sleep, and screaming = huge adrenaline spike. And Adrenaline is a hell of a d**g

Regina Holt
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I vote NTA. We here in the USA are told to call for help before doing stuff like CPR, putting out fire in home, things that authorities have the capacity to deal with. Start CPR or dealing with the fire after calling. If I hear someone outside my door screaming, I'm calling the police. I don't know what is going on, but I could be walking into a dangerous situation. And many nefarious acts start with using a child to lure people into dangerous situations. And the OP did not know that the mom was not home. BIG NTA

Mark Childers
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

With no way to assess the situation along with the screaming and crying, being awakened from sleep and disoriented and afraid, and having no idea if it was a trap at that hour. It happens all the time, and she had no way of knowing if this was one of them. It's been known that men will use a baby seat and sounds in secluded or isolated places to lure women. Ladies, you cannot be too careful. As hard as it is, follow this woman's example.

martin734
Community Member
4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is the more likely scenario, a home invader breaking into someone's home and instead of then breaking into the other room, playing the sound of the child that lives there screaming for help in order to lure them out? Or that the child that lives there genuinely needs help?

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Key Lime
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3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Time to move. You have turned your living arrangements hostile.

Elizabeth Bell
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3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One thing I learned after being involved in a traumatic situation (for the other people, not for me) is you cannot judge people for how they react in moments like this. People go into fight or flight, this girl did what she felt was best to keep herself safe. It may not have been what others would have done, but you can't blame someone for acting a certain way in a situation they've never been in before. The blame lies with the mother for leaving her child alone to begin with. God forbid a 22 year old woman gets scared when she hears screaming. It is not her duty to put herself in danger for someone else's child.

zims
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If this was a pattern she'd be justified in this reaction, but it sounds like the first time something like this has happened. As adults living in a society it's our responsibility to care about the people around us. That's the social contract. By ignoring someone screaming for help, and then explicitly abandoning them to whatever terrible thing she thinks is happening, she's violating the social contract. It's cowardly, irresponsible, and borderline heartless. She doesn't need to be a hero or a babysitter, just open the door and ask what's wrong. She's doing HERSELF a disservice by not assessing the situation, too. What if it was a fire the kid was trying to warn her about? If she can't be an adult about this kind of thing then she might not be old enough to be living on her own herself.

🇫🇮 Goth Nurse 🇫🇮
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WOW I could vote without being a subscriber! I hate how bright the site is now. Luckily I have adblockers so I don't have to pay for ad removal... What is this new thing on BP? But on to the post itself: That woman is weird and and an ashole. Not for calling the police, it was absolutely the right thing to do, but to leave a scared lonely child like this?? Wow!

Florapocalypse
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5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Completely off topic, but I love 'angry, blue-jumpered lady'. Sorry, back to the sensible replies!

Kristen Woehlke
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! Not your responsibility. Crazy hours or not, the child was left by her mother... Alone!

G R
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3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I call BS on this story. The child had the presence of mind to go outside, climb the stairs, and enter a completely separate apartment. She was in control of herself enough to actively make the decision to go find the OP. She was enough under control to be able to knock. And the whole process with OP putting on headphones, waiting, taking off headphones, calling the police, waiting for the police, must have taken a good 10 mins at least. The child may have been wailing, or screamed the OP's name, but no she was not full-on horror movie screaming like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH screaming for a full 10 minutes while also carrying out cognitively demanding tasks. So the OP'a version of events were she was scared of screaming simply doesn't add up. She was angry that a child was calling for her and decided to teach her a lesson by calling the cops on A CHILD.

Just stopping by
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4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow i don’t think I’ve agreed with the yta votes before but this person is just ugh. I will never understand that line of thinking.

The_Nicest_Misanthrope
Community Member
4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Could've at least opened the door to check someone wasn't outright kidnapping/murdering this child first. What a coward.

Sera
Community Member
3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes that 22 year old girl who didn't want to be murdered, so cowardly.

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