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“AIBU Because I Feel Like An Incubator For Her Grandchild?”: Mom Holds A Grudge Against MIL

“AIBU Because I Feel Like An Incubator For Her Grandchild?”: Mom Holds A Grudge Against MIL

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The vows we take at the wedding altar usually don’t include our in-laws, but in vain. In fact, relationships with our spouses’ parents often significantly affect the quality of our family life. Even if the relationship with the partner themselves is completely cloudless.

Here is the user ForOliveViewer, the author of our story today, in her own words, happy with her marriage, which has lasted for five years. However, the relationship with her mother-in-law is becoming for her that fly in the ointment that spoils everything. Intrigued? Then let’s read on.

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The author of the post has been married for 5 years and she has a wonderful 2-year-old daughter

Image credits: Pavel Danilyuk / Pexels (not the actual photo)

The only issue that darkens the author’s life, according to herself, is that her mother-in-law undervalues her

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For example, the woman expects heartened congrats on Mother’s Day but just gets a card, while her husband receives tons of warmth on Father’s Day

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Another example is when she flies by plane with her daughter, the MIL always calls to check on their safety – and doesn’t do this when the DIL flies alone

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So the woman decided to take it online in order to get some wise pieces of advice from netizens

So, the Original Poster (OP) is 30 years old, just like her husband, they have been married for 5 years and have a wonderful 2-year-old daughter. And the woman is almost completely happy with her life – the only problem she sees is her mother-in-law. More precisely, this lady’s attitude towards her daughter-in-law.

No, if you are expecting some dark story with insults, toxic words and petty revenge on both sides, then you are definitely wrong. The MIL always behaves very appropriately, she regularly comes to visit for the weekend, but she doesn’t impose her company on the spouses. She tries to be involved in the parenting process whenever possible… But the OP is still upset. And here’s why.

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The thing is that the MIL pays maximum attention exclusively to those family members who are of the same blood with her – that is, her son and granddaughter. And this applies to both congratulations on Father’s Day or Mother’s Day (as you understand, the level of MIL’s involvement here varies drastically), and just everyday communication.

So, for example, when the OP flew with her daughter on a plane, the mother-in-law regularly called and worried about their safety. At the same time, when the author flew alone, nothing like that happened. You might say that these are trifles – but for our heroine, each incident was actually very hurtful.

In congratulating them, the MIL usually showers her son with praise, and when talking about his spouse, she only notes her as a great wife and mom. And our heroine would like to be appreciated as an individual. However, the woman is not sure – maybe she’s simply being unreasonable, expecting more from her mother-in-law than she can actually give her?

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Well, the question is actually individual to each particular family, but in general, it would be a little strange to expect the same level of love and support from the mother-in-law as she gives her own son and granddaughter. Yes, there are always many exceptions, but you and I know so many stories where MIL and DIL find themselves on different sides of the ‘front line’…

“Of course, each person’s feelings are very important and have primary importance for themselves – but it’s worth thinking that other people may have a completely different level of perception of what is happening, a different temper and reactions,” says Irina Matveeva, a psychologist and certified NLP specialist, whom Bored Panda asked for a comment here.

“From what is listed in this woman’s story, to be honest, it doesn’t follow that she is undervalued. On the contrary, the mother-in-law is grateful to her for being a good mom to her granddaughter and a good wife to her son. That is, in fact, to the people closest to her. And in those areas where they actively interact.”

After all, according to Irina, you wouldn’t expect your boss to regularly praise you for, let’s say, your artistic abilities or parenting skills. Each person, Irina goes on, perceives you as you enter their personal environment. Because you are the center of your own universe, but the other person has their universe too, and you’re obviously not the center of it.

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“As for this woman, it’s quite possible that a few therapy sessions would help her to understand, first of all, herself. I think that would be quite enough,” Irina summarizes. “It seems to me that she has some unprocessed issues inside her – and this prevents her from enjoying life to its fullest.”

People in the comments to the original post also don’t really agree that the author is undervalued in any way. “Your expectations of your husband’s mother are waaaaay too high! What made you expect all these things from her?” one of the commenters wrote. “Why would she go out of her way to wish you a happy mother’s day? You’re not her mum. You’re not even her daughter.”

Responders also rightly point out that the OP is not part of her MIL’s immediate family, so shouldn’t expect anything out of the ordinary – even on Mother’s Day. “I’m sorry OP but on Mothers day it should be your husband spoiling you, same for your birthday. At the end of the day you’re not her immediate family and I think being a good mum and a good grandma is enough,” another person added. And what do you, our dear readers, think about this story?

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However, people in the comments mostly told the author she was being unreasonable here, since she isn’t her MIL’s immediate family

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Do you believe the mother-in-law should treat her daughter-in-law as part of the immediate family?
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Justin Smith
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wth is wrong with all these commenters. She is part of this womans family now, whether the mil wants it or not. And to treat her as an outsider and lesser is b******t.

Shark Lady
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's from mumsnet, full of toxicity and spite. I joined the site not long after it started up, thinking I would find a supportive cohort, nope they didn't want a young single mother as part of their group.

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H. B. Nielsen
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't complain about it, I'd just be way less accommodating to be available every single time there isn't a prior engagement in the way. She also needs to stop doing bday and mother's day acknowledgements when they aren't reciprocal. Bet that'll be noticed and brought up and will be a perfect opportunity to bring up why it stopped. She wasn't asking her to be her best friend or even treat her exactly like the son. That she can't be bothered to send a card on OP's bday is in no way asking too much.

Mark Childers
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After reading some of her replies to comments, I'm guessing that the MIL kept her at arms-length for a reason. She seems very defensive and egotistical, as well as a little entitled.

Mike F
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And the fact that it seems like a "systemic" thing may indicate a cultural difference. Also, did she mention what relationship they (OP and MIL) prior to their marriage? If the MIL feels like she doesn't really know the OP or what the OP expects the relationship to look like that could also explain the perceived coldness on the part of the MIL.

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Sarah Matsoukis
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's not being mistreated, maybe she's just not a person mil would be friends with if son hasn't married her, after all the guy chose her, if the rest of the family loves her good, if not just be polite as long as they are.

arthbach
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sarah Matsoukis, she is being mistreated. She is being treated as an acquaintance, not a member of the family. She is being set aside as not being important. When he husband and child are not around, she is ignored. That is mistreatment.

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katiekat0214
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People seem intent on not understanding her point, and that's just wrong. She wants acknowledgement of who she is, and how she is important as an individual. Reducing her to the services she provides is dehumanizing. What is wrong with these commenters? Or is sexism and misogyny so ingrained in society, they can't see the problem?

Meagan Glaser
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The commentors realize what OP is so desperate to ignore; the MIL just doesn't like her as a person. She'll be polite, but they aren't close and have nothing in common besides the husband and grandchild. Would it be better if the MIL faked it better? Maybe...but that's not what OP really wants either.

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Upstaged75
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is she so desperate to have her MIL compliment her? it sounds like she's very insecure.

Laura Gillette
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These commenters are ridiculous. She has every right to feel hurt. What she really needs is a therapist to help her accept that her MIL is never going to treat her the way she wants to be treated and to find other sources of love and appreciation in her life. Hopefully her husband is organizing birthday and Mothers' Day celebrations for her. I wonder if she has any contact with her own parents, she didn't mention them at all.

Insomniac
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people will not value a woman beyond what they do for others. Those people suck, but that's who they are. MIL is likely of that generation where she was taught that a woman's value lies in being wife/mother/daughter, so she cannot see OP as an individual beyond that.

Anna Drever
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ll admit as a MIL I don’t give a gift to my daughter’s in law on Mother’s Day but for Birthdays and Christmas they get the same acknowledgment and amount spent on them as my children. Doesn’t the term ‘daughter in law’ basically mean an extra daughter in the family. They’re a bonus and they make my kids happy so that’s great by me.

Brian Droste
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am wondering where is OP'S mother in this situation. She is complaing about her MIL not doing as much for her on special occasions. What about her own mother giving special attention to her on these occasions? Also does her mother give her husband any more special attention than what she receives from her MIL?

Jo Firth
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She asks if she is wroung, but then argues with everyone who says she is in the wrong. Have a feeling the MIL isn't the issue here. 30 and upset over a birthday card? Hmmmmm.

سارا ناز
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not in this woman's shoes so not to invalidate how she feels, but overall in life my feeling is I can only expect respect & decency from the mil or others in my family. I don't expect them to be my best friend & go out of their way etc, if someone chooses to that's great, if not, as long as her privacy & home & humanity are being respected, she appears to be making a mountain of a molehill is my thinking. Maybe she should try inviting her mil out for dinner or coffee so they can get to know each other, some people's personalities take longer to 'warm up' so has she tried making that effort?

bElLa sTairZz
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

want to know if op is wishing grandmother happy birthday/mothers day. if she does i would understand wanting to get one back

H. B. Nielsen
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That information is right up there in the replies to the comments and is an affirmative.

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Rebel Peewee
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think OP should find solice in friends who are also DILs. She can't change MIL but she can change her own POV. I no longer feel badly for myself about my SMIL and MIL after sharing stories with other women. Being gossiped about or undervalued as a part of the family is nothing compared to the horrors so many of my friends and acquaintances go through with theirs'. Seems like the chances of getting a kind and respectful MIL are extremely slim from my experience.

Kristen Woehlke
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These idiots talking down to OP... Wow, you people sound like the MIL this poor woman is talking about! They're all mean, evil, spiteful b*****s! This woman married this man and had a child and had s going out of her way to accommodate monster in law! She should at least get some sort of recognition, because it seems like she's doing all the work!

P.L. Packer
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In over 20 years of marriage I never once received even a verbal Happy Birthday, Mother's Day or any day type of card/gift from my in-laws. Nor did I expect it. OP seems very immature and is looking for reasons to feel slighted. Grow Up......

Valerie Brillhart
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A Mother's Day Card are you kidding?? That's what has you upset. Honey You Need to Grow Up. Your A Asshat

Sonia Al Hasan
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's okay to feel hurt, and it's okay to feel u need more, but it's also okay not to get what u need, she's your mother in law, she's an extension of your immediate family which consists of only you, your husband and daughter, she's close family but not immediate, so it's okay if u don't get validation from them, as long as she's not being mean, rude or make passive comments about u, she's not a bad person, she's just not your cup of tea, focus more on the love you get from ur husband and daughter and just ignore all other external factors, they are accessories not necessaries, sending you love and hugs and hope you'll get the love u need

Abraxas59
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

N this is why I loath social media it’s toxic end off To the op how bout you call your mil n invite her over for lunch and sit her down and have a full on heart to heart with her tell her what you’ve told us even show her the post if needs be but mil are notoriously hard to get on with I consider my daughters bf my son in law he’s family my sons gf love her to bits I do not interfere with either I’m just mum as is there when needed ok they like 23-20 n lass oldest fella lives with us son works away some times n stays at hers so not the same but I can see both sides you might just be taking it wrong to much sitting down and talking sorting it could make ll the difference blessed be to all

Justin Smith
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wth is wrong with all these commenters. She is part of this womans family now, whether the mil wants it or not. And to treat her as an outsider and lesser is b******t.

Shark Lady
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's from mumsnet, full of toxicity and spite. I joined the site not long after it started up, thinking I would find a supportive cohort, nope they didn't want a young single mother as part of their group.

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H. B. Nielsen
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't complain about it, I'd just be way less accommodating to be available every single time there isn't a prior engagement in the way. She also needs to stop doing bday and mother's day acknowledgements when they aren't reciprocal. Bet that'll be noticed and brought up and will be a perfect opportunity to bring up why it stopped. She wasn't asking her to be her best friend or even treat her exactly like the son. That she can't be bothered to send a card on OP's bday is in no way asking too much.

Mark Childers
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After reading some of her replies to comments, I'm guessing that the MIL kept her at arms-length for a reason. She seems very defensive and egotistical, as well as a little entitled.

Mike F
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And the fact that it seems like a "systemic" thing may indicate a cultural difference. Also, did she mention what relationship they (OP and MIL) prior to their marriage? If the MIL feels like she doesn't really know the OP or what the OP expects the relationship to look like that could also explain the perceived coldness on the part of the MIL.

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Sarah Matsoukis
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's not being mistreated, maybe she's just not a person mil would be friends with if son hasn't married her, after all the guy chose her, if the rest of the family loves her good, if not just be polite as long as they are.

arthbach
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sarah Matsoukis, she is being mistreated. She is being treated as an acquaintance, not a member of the family. She is being set aside as not being important. When he husband and child are not around, she is ignored. That is mistreatment.

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katiekat0214
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People seem intent on not understanding her point, and that's just wrong. She wants acknowledgement of who she is, and how she is important as an individual. Reducing her to the services she provides is dehumanizing. What is wrong with these commenters? Or is sexism and misogyny so ingrained in society, they can't see the problem?

Meagan Glaser
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The commentors realize what OP is so desperate to ignore; the MIL just doesn't like her as a person. She'll be polite, but they aren't close and have nothing in common besides the husband and grandchild. Would it be better if the MIL faked it better? Maybe...but that's not what OP really wants either.

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Upstaged75
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is she so desperate to have her MIL compliment her? it sounds like she's very insecure.

Laura Gillette
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These commenters are ridiculous. She has every right to feel hurt. What she really needs is a therapist to help her accept that her MIL is never going to treat her the way she wants to be treated and to find other sources of love and appreciation in her life. Hopefully her husband is organizing birthday and Mothers' Day celebrations for her. I wonder if she has any contact with her own parents, she didn't mention them at all.

Insomniac
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people will not value a woman beyond what they do for others. Those people suck, but that's who they are. MIL is likely of that generation where she was taught that a woman's value lies in being wife/mother/daughter, so she cannot see OP as an individual beyond that.

Anna Drever
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ll admit as a MIL I don’t give a gift to my daughter’s in law on Mother’s Day but for Birthdays and Christmas they get the same acknowledgment and amount spent on them as my children. Doesn’t the term ‘daughter in law’ basically mean an extra daughter in the family. They’re a bonus and they make my kids happy so that’s great by me.

Brian Droste
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am wondering where is OP'S mother in this situation. She is complaing about her MIL not doing as much for her on special occasions. What about her own mother giving special attention to her on these occasions? Also does her mother give her husband any more special attention than what she receives from her MIL?

Jo Firth
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She asks if she is wroung, but then argues with everyone who says she is in the wrong. Have a feeling the MIL isn't the issue here. 30 and upset over a birthday card? Hmmmmm.

سارا ناز
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not in this woman's shoes so not to invalidate how she feels, but overall in life my feeling is I can only expect respect & decency from the mil or others in my family. I don't expect them to be my best friend & go out of their way etc, if someone chooses to that's great, if not, as long as her privacy & home & humanity are being respected, she appears to be making a mountain of a molehill is my thinking. Maybe she should try inviting her mil out for dinner or coffee so they can get to know each other, some people's personalities take longer to 'warm up' so has she tried making that effort?

bElLa sTairZz
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

want to know if op is wishing grandmother happy birthday/mothers day. if she does i would understand wanting to get one back

H. B. Nielsen
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That information is right up there in the replies to the comments and is an affirmative.

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Rebel Peewee
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think OP should find solice in friends who are also DILs. She can't change MIL but she can change her own POV. I no longer feel badly for myself about my SMIL and MIL after sharing stories with other women. Being gossiped about or undervalued as a part of the family is nothing compared to the horrors so many of my friends and acquaintances go through with theirs'. Seems like the chances of getting a kind and respectful MIL are extremely slim from my experience.

Kristen Woehlke
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These idiots talking down to OP... Wow, you people sound like the MIL this poor woman is talking about! They're all mean, evil, spiteful b*****s! This woman married this man and had a child and had s going out of her way to accommodate monster in law! She should at least get some sort of recognition, because it seems like she's doing all the work!

P.L. Packer
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In over 20 years of marriage I never once received even a verbal Happy Birthday, Mother's Day or any day type of card/gift from my in-laws. Nor did I expect it. OP seems very immature and is looking for reasons to feel slighted. Grow Up......

Valerie Brillhart
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A Mother's Day Card are you kidding?? That's what has you upset. Honey You Need to Grow Up. Your A Asshat

Sonia Al Hasan
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's okay to feel hurt, and it's okay to feel u need more, but it's also okay not to get what u need, she's your mother in law, she's an extension of your immediate family which consists of only you, your husband and daughter, she's close family but not immediate, so it's okay if u don't get validation from them, as long as she's not being mean, rude or make passive comments about u, she's not a bad person, she's just not your cup of tea, focus more on the love you get from ur husband and daughter and just ignore all other external factors, they are accessories not necessaries, sending you love and hugs and hope you'll get the love u need

Abraxas59
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

N this is why I loath social media it’s toxic end off To the op how bout you call your mil n invite her over for lunch and sit her down and have a full on heart to heart with her tell her what you’ve told us even show her the post if needs be but mil are notoriously hard to get on with I consider my daughters bf my son in law he’s family my sons gf love her to bits I do not interfere with either I’m just mum as is there when needed ok they like 23-20 n lass oldest fella lives with us son works away some times n stays at hers so not the same but I can see both sides you might just be taking it wrong to much sitting down and talking sorting it could make ll the difference blessed be to all

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