Truth is both challenging and liberating at the same time. However, as children, we have already told our first lie by the age of 3. Most of the time, with the help of lying, we are trying to avoid punishment, but in some cases, a lie can be directed at someone to feel worse so that it would make the liar feel 'better'. And that is a lie in itself.

In my experience, lying is never the answer, and we should always fight for the truth. Therefore, dear Pandas, I would like you to share the most outrageous lie that someone once told you, and that just doesn't make any sense. Let us bring some light to all the lies that have ever hurt us.

To learn more about lying, Bored Panda got in touch with Dr. Cortney S. Warren, Ph.D., ABPP, board-certified clinical psychologist and author of the books Letting Go of Your Ex (2023) and Lies We Tell Ourselves: The Psychology of Self-Deception (2014). Read the full interview below.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community As a child, my parents kept telling me that I was worthless, stupid, and lazy; that I didn't deserve anything, and that nothing good would become of me. That they were ashamed of me, and that they had spent too much on my upbringing.

Years later - I moved away from my toxic family and started going to therapy. Today I live in my own apartment, I got promoted several times at work, I love my job, I got to travel through the whole of Europe, and I can afford almost everything they had told me that I "didn't deserve". And most important - I found my inner peace.

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Jynxiecat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So glad you got out of that environment and did not allow it to shape your whole narrative.

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Some lies can be easier to recognize, while others are well thought out and could maybe even count as manipulation. So what is lying, exactly? Dr. Cortney S. Warren, a Harvard-trained, California-based board-certified clinical psychologist and Adjunct Professor of Psychiatry at the UNLV School of Medicine, answered: “According to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, the most traditional definition of lying is “to make a believed-false statement to another person with the intention that the other person believes that statement to be true.” In other words, lying is making a statement that one knows is untrue with the intent to deceive the listener. From this perspective, lying is not simply about making a false statement — it’s about misleading the listener to believe something that you know is inaccurate. From this perspective, the intention to deceive is a critical component of lying.”

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community My late older sis told me I was adopted and showed me paperwork to prove it. Being a teen, I didn't know it was handily forged fakery courtesy of some forms her friend got somehow. I was devastated for weeks. Decades later, some still think I was adopted. I wasn't. DNA, I'm 100% from the same parents as her. I even heard "But she's not your real sister/dad" at funerals. FYI, if I *had* been adopted, that'd still be a horrible thing to do, but since I wasn't?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That was a really mean thing your sister did to you. Hugs Leo.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community "You're fat enough to look like you gave birth to 3 children"
I was 12 when my dad said this. Height 148cm and 50kg. I starved myself when he said that and got very bad stomach issues which I'm still suffering with. He said this because I was VERY skinny as a kid and gained weight at 12. I GAINED WEIGHT FROM MY GROWTH SPURT DURING PUBERTY. My father was ignorant and didn't know this so he ended up hurting my feelings so badly that even though I'm 17 now I still remember EACH AND EVERY hurtful word he said to me. To this day, I'm uncomfortable shopping for clothes because I get reminded of those days. I'm now 164cm tall at 55.7 kg and although I'm happy with my body I still cry when I remember his words. Be careful, everyone! Words really do matter! Here are some things he said:
I was eating chocolate because of period cramps when he said "look at you, you're eating all the time. Girls your age are gorgeous at 5'5 and maintaining a healthy weight. You look like a troll";
When I was sleeping, he told me that "my belly is so big it looks like it was laying beside me."
And when I confronted him about this and told him this was why I starved myself, he told me he never said that and got mad and told me to stop making up lies about him... He told me this was why everyone hates me. Ever since then, my relationship with my father has never been the same. The most outrageous lie was when he told me to stop making this up (my mom didn't know about this till then and she was there at the time so he didn't want to make himself look bad). Sorry for the essay, folks, just needed to get that out.

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Dr. Cortney S. Warren continued to explain what kind of lies people tend to say. “People lie about almost anything. For example: that you’re cheating on your partner; what you were doing with your time (in fact, you were not at the library… you were playing games at a friend's house or at the local bar!); how much money you spend—on food, nice dinners out, clothes, trips; how much you drink, gamble, eat… or even how often you lie!; how you feel and what you think about a person (like your mother or mother-in-law).”

“For example, people tend to lie on social media. Most commonly, people lie by presenting an image of themselves and their lives that reflects what they wish were true. A more glamorous version of themselves and their lives that shows the fun, interesting parts of themselves and ignores the blemishes. In a study examining 80 online daters, Hancock, Toma, & Ellison (2007) found that 2/3 of participants lied about their weight by 5 pounds or more. In a large sample of over 2000 people in England conducted by Custard.com (2016), 43% of men admitted to making up facts about themselves and their lives that were not true online. In addition, only 18% of men and 19% of women reported that their Facebook page displayed “a completely accurate reflection” of who they are. Most commonly, participants said that they only shared “non-boring” aspects of their lives (32%) and were not as “active” as their social media accounts appeared (14%).”

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community "No daddy, I didn't eat your cake".
My then-3-year-old daughter with wide, innocent eyes betrayed by about a half-pound of chocolate cream smeared around her face.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community If you work hard, you can be or do anything. It's really not true. That isn't something I'm saying because I think anything is owed to me. I think it's just a dangerous thing to say to kids who don't understand that there's a fine print.

There are a specific set of circumstances that have to happen in order for that dream to come true and it's possible that no matter how hard you work you might not get there. There's also a narrative on Instagram, Facebook et al of people who live these 'amazing' lives that you will never be able to keep up with or live up to or afford. It's causing people to build resentment because they see some influencer or celebrity with little to no talent and they then question, 'why can't I be that? Why can't I be like them?' But a lot of it is a lie.

With some things, it's about who you know. With others it's about having the capital to be able to do it, so for instance, you may be able to take an unpaid internship for a year at your dream company, but only if you can afford to do that. You need to have someone who can take care of you for that year or someone's couch you can sleep on. Some people don't have that option. Some people have to work from the minute they turn 16 and can't afford to take time off even with some savings.

A lot of rich people have their companies handed to them because it's in the family. So they get the benefit of great schooling and they start training for that business as soon as possible. They also have their rent paid for having a trust fund while they do that. They also get there without ever having to start at the bottom, or only have to do that for a very short time to 'save face'. At 26 they take over a million-dollar company. No matter how hard that person works, they still had astounding advantages that you and I will never have and if they had to work 1 week in one of our jobs they'd kill themselves. But they are often the first ones to blame poor people for their own lot in life. They forget about everything they got to skip over on their way to where they are.

You're constantly made to feel like you're somehow lesser because you didn't have the same opportunities.

Don't get me wrong, some people really do start from nothing and work hard to build an incredible life but I would bet that no one gets there alone, and not without the help of some kind and some luck that simply might not be available to you. Or the dream you have is simply not within reach for you because of other circumstances in your life.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And to some people, even the most basic opportunities are denied because of who they are. Being disabled or visible LGBT+ in my country often means not being able to finish your studies or getting a job, but people on social media or news are often the 15% of autistic people who can and do work and such, and that leaves people like myself feeling like s**t, just like this post said. Why can't that be me? Why can't I just effort a little more?

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Sometimes people kinda lie even without knowing that they are lying. Dr. Cortney S. Warren shared how that happens: “it’s also possible to lie by telling something that’s not true without an intention to deceive (Mahon, 2008). From a self-deception perspective, we often lie to ourselves by believing something false or refusing to believe something true (Warren, 2014). When we do, we’ll pass lies onto other people without any intention of misleading them because we actually believe the lies we’re spreading. For example, for centuries, people believed the world was flat. They communicated that belief to everyone around them. Now, science gives us ample evidence that the world is, in fact, round. People were technically lying when they said the Earth was flat because the facts were untrue, but they actually believed the lie. Now, very few of us would say the Earth is flat because we know that it’s round (although there’s a resurgence of people who believe the Earth is flat in recent years, referred to as Flat Earthers – a topic for another day).”

“Self-deceptive lying is much harder to spot and identify in ourselves because we can’t see it! For example: being unable to admit that your childhood trauma affects your adult relationships and how; rationalizing why you didn’t list your actual height and weight in your dating app profile; denying that you’re jealous of your ex’s new girlfriend; explaining why you didn’t report the full amount of money you earned last year in your tax document to make yourself feel better about your less-than-ethical behavior.”

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community My boyfriend's mom said she had cancer. She lost a bunch of weight (she was morbidly obese & found a Dr. Feel Good to give her hella powerful drugs). Had her husband and son at her beck and call 24/7 because she “needed help” and was SO weak and sick. Gaslit the whole town, had everyone giving her attention, flowers, home-cooked meals, etc. My boyfriend and I could never go out (“what if she fell?!) but she loved having us both there to listen to her monologues. This went on for 2 years! We were dumb teenagers, but shouldn’t the adults have noticed something wasn’t right? They finally did, it all came out (suprise! No cancer!) and my boyfriend had to leave town because of the shame. (I went with him- happily married for 40 years) We tried to forgive her when our kids came along. She started the same old stuff, and we finally completely cut her off.
So, big, big, biiiiig lies.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people are so desperate for attention it's sick and criminal. I'm sorry for your experience but so glad you and your husband left that craziness and have had your own happy life away from it!

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community That your "permanent record" in primary school will matter and follow you forever.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

omg this is a big one. If i could do it over again, i would have told myself to get my GED, go to community college for 1 year and get great grades, then apply for scholarships. And graduate by the time I'm 19. Or if I don't want to go to college for something specific, apprentice for a trade for those 4 years I'm still living at home and once I hot 18 you get can licensed in the trade and start working for someone making good money right away or even start my own business within a few years. If you know for sure that school is not for you or that you know you want to work in a specific field that does not require college... get your GED as soon as possible. I would say to finish middle school, 8th grade. But 15 or 16years old... get out. It's a waste of time. You aren't going to remember anything you learn in those last 3 years so you might as well use them to learn your chosen trade.

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Some people are so used to lying rather than telling the truth that they tend to choose false information in the simplest situations. Dr. Cortney S. Warren commented on why that is: “People lie for many reasons. Some of the most common are: fear of punishment, retribution, or rejection (for example, if you cheat and tell your partner, they may leave or be angry); an inability to admit to ourselves the truth because it’s too painful to admit (the core of all self-deception—you lie to yourself to save yourself the pain of seeing reality for what it is); an intention to project a more positive, socially desirable image of ourselves (for example, you don’t want to look like a 'bad person' so you only present what you want people to see about you); -to gain something you want or cheat another person (which is more indicative of pathological lying).”

However, some people are more likely to lie than others. “In general, research suggests that people who have higher trait-based self-esteem, are more open to outside-the-box thinking, and are kind/agreeable are less likely to lie. People who struggle with chronic negative emotion, are emotionally reactive, and lack empathy (characteristics that are associated with what we call neuroticism in psychological terms) are more likely to lie,” shared Dr. Cortney S. Warren.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community That I’m ok and it’ll pass. PTSD mixed with other mental things will never go away (for me). Love to all of you, pandas.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

PTSD can be treated but you're right, sometimes it never goes completely away. It's tough... have it myself. Praying for y'all with it too.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community That commercialized health care is an advantage to the patient.
(Never believed it, of course)

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Commercialized anything isn't usually an advantage to anyone but the investors.

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In terms of relationships and social dynamics, lying can damage the bond between people. “Lying undermines trust and closeness. This dramatically affects interpersonal relationships both personally and professionally. When you realize you’ve been lied to, it’s highly damaging to relationships because you won’t know whether the person who lied to you will do it again.”

“Self-deception plays a huge role in romantic love and breakups. You're very likely to believe some highly untrue things about your mate, both while you're together and after you break up. Many of them are outlined in my latest book—along with a host of exercises to challenge unhelpful and dishonest thinking patterns!” shared Dr. Cortney S. Warren.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community I love you. (The lie that always gets me...)
I respect you.
I'll pay you back.
I'd never cheat on you.
Will you marry me?
I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
I'm sorry, I'll never do it again.
I'll never hurt you.
I just want to see you happy.
I was just drunk...
There's nothing going on between us.
That person doesn't mean anything to me.
You can trust me.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community My ex-husband told me that his family had connections with the mafia and that if I ever tried to leave him that he would disappear with our son and I would never see them again. I left him and he didn't disappear.
After we divorced he told my son that he was on an experimental komodo dragon treatment for his necrotic pancreatitis and he only had 6 months to live. This was several years ago. He is still alive.

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But not all lying is bad, isn’t it? Sparing someone’s feelings is considered a positive thing and sometimes it just feels like lying is the only option. Here is Dr. Cortney S. Warren’s perspective on that. She wrote: “this is a very tough question for me to answer. Who you want to be honest with and when is a very complicated topic that depends on how close you want to be to someone, how the information may affect them, and whether it’s appropriate or not to tell them the truth. I would not advocate for lying almost ever—but I also wouldn’t say that you should tell everyone private information that may be true in every situation. What I would say is that the goal is always to be honest with yourself. Because that’s where your true power lies. The more you can see and admit the truth, the more power you have to make different choices with the information you have.”

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community "I’m not cheating on you and never would." Said by my now ex-husband. Backstory: we were married for 9 years, together for 11, and had 2 daughters together. We had a somewhat open relationship to avoid cheating as he had a reputation from his past. There were many rules but the main one was, you don’t do anything behind the other's back. Not only did he cheat behind my back but he brought her into my home to help me with the kids after a surgery I had as my ex was an over-the-road trucker and couldn’t be there with me. She stole my phone while I was sleeping and text herself from it making it look like I was selling her my pain meds from the surgery. In the end, I didn’t get in any trouble as I still had the pills I was supposedly selling but she sure tried multiple things to have me put in prison so she could take over my role (her words). Karma got her in the end as she was charged with perjury and soliciting an officer.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. What a piece of work! Glad you didn't get into any trouble.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community That the ultra-religious will go to heaven, and the rest of the world will burn.
That LGBTQ+ people are 'sinful' and 'an abomination'.
That the Bible was 100% correct.
It's a 2,000+-year-old book. Translated from many different languages. That says that women are inferior, and it's 'right to own slaves'.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i am lutheran and we belive everyone goes to heaven, my certain congregation belives that the only people who go to hell are homophobic, transphobic, racist people.

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In the end, lying is not worth it. But if lying is coursing through your veins and it is difficult to recognize whether you are telling the truth, Dr. Cortney S. Warren shared some strategies that you can use to identify it: “start with yourself. Try to be as honest with yourself as possible. Then, anytime you want to lie to yourself or others, pause. Notice your tendency and ask why you are doing this. Strive to have everything that comes out of your mouth be honest. The path to self-honesty starts with self-awareness. Pause. Notice what you’re thinking and how you feel. Ask yourself why. My book, Lies we Tell Ourselves, and TEDx talk Honest Liars can help you with more specific strategies for self-honesty, especially in relationships.”

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community You’re just too sensitive. Stop wearing your feelings on your sleeve. Have heard this all my life, especially when I react to an unkind or untrue comment. Smh.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup, this is a frequent gaslight by people who get called out or caught. I used to allow it to get at me. NO more! It took many years and many lessons from lying, shifty, selfish d.heads. I only hope that fellow “softies” realize that the other guy is wrong. Keep being yourself- don’t let them knock you down!

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Since the rise of social media, lying does not stop in our inner circles. Here is what Dr. Cortney S. Warren shared regarding this topic: “I think the anonymity and lack of direct face-to-face interaction of most social media makes it easier to lie. You can essentially say whatever you want online—whether it’s objectively true or not—and not really have very serious consequences for it. And it’s easier to say what you want without getting 'caught' in a lie online than it is when talking to someone directly—you’re able to project an image or a statement without many of the nuances of non-verbal and interpersonal cues that indicate lying in person! I also think that people are more aggressive and brazen in their comments online because they see it as a platform to express themselves instead of seeing it as an interaction or relationship with others online.”

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community That the world is just fine. IT'S NOT FINE, YOU MORONS, WAKE UP!

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When encountering a dishonest post, it can be challenging to know how to identify the lies and respond appropriately. Dr. Cortney S. Warren commented on how to spot these lies or react in such situations.

“In terms of spotting lies, I would go into all online material with a critical thinking cap on. Ask yourself a host of questions to evaluate whether a statement is true by looking for data—look for evidence to support any claim. First, consider the source—do they have a vested personal interest in presenting information a certain way? Then consider the perspective taken—are they able to articulate the other side of an argument? Also, look for self-deception. Are they in denial? Rationalizing? Projecting? My book can help you explore how our inability to be honest with ourselves—which is actually a much more dangerous problem—can lead you to spread lies unintentionally to those around you.

In terms of how to react, this is a very complicated question to answer because it really depends on your goal and relationship to the writer. I would pause. Think about your reaction. And then decide very clearly how you want to respond and why before you do anything to confront a dishonest post!”

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you."

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Taken from Ronald Reagan who started all the BS that got us to Trump and a very divided nation. Thanks Ronnie...

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In the era of social media, the prevalence of dishonesty raises questions about its potential impact on individuals. Dr. Cortney S. Warren answered a question about what effect dishonesty on social media has on us.

“Although selective self-presentation and lying about ourselves on social media may not seem like a surprise (or even a big deal), it can affect us greatly. Why? Humans are naturally social creatures—we crave relationships and social interaction. According to some of the most prominent theories of human nature and a large body of research, social interaction and feeling a sense of belonging to a community are two of the most important predictors of psychological and physical health (see here for a review). Given our social nature, we want to feel connected to people and 'in the know' about our friends, family, and even celebrities. We crave connectedness. So, we want to interact with people and social media offers us one way to do that. We also have a natural propensity to trust that others are being honest with us. A large body of research suggests that we are programmed to trust others. Although the reasons for our tendency to trust are complex, without interpersonal connectedness and a fundamental belief that those around will support you, protect you, and treat you respectfully, we feel unsafe. Trust is developmentally essential to feeling safe and secure. So, what happens is we want connection through social media interaction and we naturally think that others are being honest. When people aren’t honest, it can be problematic because we internally presume that what is presented is true. That people are naturally as good-looking as their photos appear. That people’s daily home life is as perfect as the pictures depict. That others have very few gut-wrenching struggles. That people around us are in a habitual state of going on vacation, eating out, and parenting blissfully. This is clearly not true. And although we are less aware of the realities of other people’s lives, we are well aware of the ways in which our own lives are NOT ideal. To make matters more complicated, when we believe that what we see on social media is true and relevant to us, we are more likely to compare ourselves to it in an internal effort to evaluate ourselves against those around us (e.g., regarding our looks, wealth, significant other, family, etc.). As we do this against the idealized images and unreasonably positive life accounts that tend to permeate social media, we are likely to feel more poorly about ourselves and our lives. A growing body of research suggests that social media use can negatively affect your psychological health, particularly if you compare yourself to the people or (positive) images you see online. In a study of 339 college women (Puglia, 2017), the tendency to compare oneself to others was associated with poorer body esteem and a greater desire to use social media to make such body comparisons. Furthermore, in a subsample of 58 women in the Puglia study, those with higher levels of Facebook usage displayed lower body satisfaction than those with lower Facebook usage. Similarly, in an experimental study by Vogel and colleagues (2015), participants who tended to compare themselves to others more regularly had lower self-esteem, more negative emotions, and a poorer view of themselves after using Facebook than participants who did not tend to compare themselves to others.”

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community That any one person is inherently "better" or "superior" to another. It's complete stupidity.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can't judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, but when you want tree climbing done a monkey is definitely better.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community Everything that comes out of my sister's mouth is a lie, I swear, these are some of the things she has said: she can see dead people, she was abducted by aliens, she's in a choir, and the churches are fighting over her to join their choir, her kids are autistic and have Asperger's, they're not, FYI, never even seen a doctor about it, omg she has had every ailment going. One time she said she took a drug which I used to do when I was a dumb kid and you can't eat on it, so she says this then says I'm starving, that she's on first-name terms with people from BAFTA, omg the list is endless, I just shake my head lol.

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And lastly, she added: “the truth is that we all lie. On social media, this is rampant. Often, people do it to try to project an image of what they wish were true. To make ourselves look more beautiful. Smarter. More successful. As though we have a more fun life! Although lying to others is not something I would encourage you to do, the greater journey is to become fully honest with yourself. If catch yourself in the act of lying, pause. Ask yourself why you are doing it. As you understand what’s motivating your lies, you can be more honest with yourself about who you want to be and how you want to act.”

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community That my little brother gets treated the same way I did at his age- I had a Kindle and he currently uses a Playstation or Nintendo, a television, and a Kindle (he's broken two Kindles in the past, and the one he uses right now is actually taken from my older bro), and an iPad daily, he's on an iPad rn if you were wondering. He also isn't expected to do anything and leaves messes everywhere, and biting, hitting, and screaming are okay because he doesn't know any better.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was the eldest, so I shopped thrift stores (you can imagine the teasing at school) while my brother and sister wore designer clothes. I feel ya.

Evelyn Haskins
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Third of four. We were poor so many clothes came for fetes, I got them 3rd time down when they are basically rags. Little Sister (post-war baby boomer) got everything NEW and pretty,

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate servant parents (parents who don’t intervene and treat their children like puppies, saying they’ll grow out of it yet they don’t do anything to help them.

Danish Susanne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But puppies ought not to be treated that way either. They don't "grow out of it" they are taught to behave!

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Evelyn Haskins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was number 3, I either got hand-me-downs from two older sisters, or second hand clothes from charity bazaars (which always gave me the creeps). My 'Baby' sister (post-war! got EVERYTHING new :-( And STILL ex-pects everything new and much better than her older sisters have,

Lene
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my dad and his wife informed me that they were gonna adobt my brother my dad swore they would not treat us differently. And I believed him. I was ca. 8 years old. But... wow! When I turned 15 they got me a book about native Americans. I still have it and always loved looking in it. When my brother had his confirmation (dunno if it's the correct term? The Christian ceremony where kids declare they believe in God and then they are considered "adults" ca when they are 15) he got 10,000 Danish kroner to buy a computer. When I studied at the uni and worked on papers and had deadlines etc I was still expected to come to family gettogethers. My brother? Well, I almost never see him because he's soooo busy with his studies at the uni. So all that "we won't treat you any different from your new brother" was complete BS.

Bianca Bracken
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother pushed me down the stairs and nearly broke my nose but because he's the favorite my parents thought he was the victim and got him ice cream and stuff but grounded me for a month.

Lucifer
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To my father, my sister is more preferred over me. To my stepmother, we're both preferred. To my mom, both of us. To my stepdad, I'm preferred. It's basically equal- But I feel you. I hate being with my dad because of the favouritism. BUT. I can feel sympathy for my sister because I am a favourite as well, just to my stepdad instead.

cdubaya
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was the oldest of three.. Both myself (male) and my 2nd sister were adopted, my youngest sister was a "surprise" and the only true biological child. I had it rough, my 2nd sister didn't have it so much and my youngest sister had it way easier. Now that I have raised 5 kids, I see that it's just a parents obligation to go with the flow. Yep, I'm worried about each one of them at all times but I'd like to think as a Father I got better with time, not them. Stop blaming stuff all on the parents and understand we're doing our best!!!

laura lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So he got a lot of very old technology hand me downs? He at least the 3rd son, maybe mom and dad have less time and so rely on technology to help do some heavy lifting. Wait how old is your brother if he's still biting and screaming etc?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's nine, my sister is 22, my older brother is 18, and I'm 17. My mum is a housewife, so she's not usually busy (not to say she doesn't do anything, she does a lot still), he's the fourth son btw.

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Timbob
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know! When I hear ya ! Back when I was a kid in the mid 1930’s , we didn’t have a 72 inch color TV, We didn…. Oh wait ! There was no TV then, or iPhones, or tablets, or Smart watches, Or……..! It’s called Progress !

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community You can get rich as a "consultant" for an MLM.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community When I was in elementary school, the teachers told us that if we stepped on the grass, the fire alarm would trip. Me being the curious idiot I was, I tried it and stepped on said grass.

The fire alarm wasn't tripped because its grass. My guess is they didn't wanna clean grass blades.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community That she didn’t know how all the quarterly reports got into a coworker’s rarely used extra file cabinet because she sent them out to the clients when she said she did, and then when she said she had no idea how the petty cash box she was responsible for, ended up under another coworker’s desk in the trash can - EMPTY. Or when she told the arbitrator during her attempt to fight her termination that her grandmother had died which made her miss work for two weeks but was not able to call into work because she was too upset.

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Cin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My father and mother were able to call when they lost their respective parents, I was able to call in when I lost my grandmother. A simple call if it was true wouldn't have been hard.

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community Bald guys never get dates!

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community That it’s “hamburger” in my spaghetti. It was not. It was an octopus. For some reason, my dad didn’t think we’d know the difference if he just said it was hamburger.

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BBsparkster614
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hamburger sound worst to be honest, but I’m not a big pasta person in particular

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“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community Once had a roommate, she'd only been there a couple of weeks when my phone bill came. Except I didn't get it. Got a notice saying it hadn't been paid. Called the phone service, and when she heard me tell them I hadn't received a bill, she overheard me and immediately said "I didn't take it", which I hadn't even considered.
But when my new bill came from when she moved in, it turned out, that while I was a work, and she was supposed to be at work, she was sitting at home, calling family in New Jersey. All day.

She went away for a weekend and never came back, so I ended up getting a second job to pay that bill. Never saw her again. Burned her personal belongings. Gave her dog away.

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#32

That the US is great.

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#33

That she was sitting on a window sill on the 2nd floor and fell out of the window and her boyfriend ran down the stairs and outside and caught her before she hit the ground. Who was this amazing boyfriend you ask? Bret Hart, the wrestler

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#34

The Bible x

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#35

That if you don’t think about it the pain will fade and eventually you will forget it. Ok how do you not think about something? Cause as soon as you think about not thinking about something then you’ve thought about it and it’s ruined. Cause I think about it EVERY DAY and it happened 20 plus years ago. So yea. I’ll stop thinking about it asap.

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Shelby Moonheart
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You have to actively think of something else. Something that is good, things you are thankful for. The weight of the pain won't fade if you can't put it down for a few minutes.

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#36

Someone's probably already said this but:
Told my parents I was straight

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#37

“What’s The Most Outrageous Lie You’ve Ever Been Told?”: 30 Lies Ranging From Silly To Horrible, As Shared By The Bored Panda Community Recently got myself into a situation where I was giving someone a chance despite my inner voice telling me it wasn't going to go well. I don't really make friends easily-mostly because I stay away from people in general. So, when I do interact with people, I give everyone a chance. I don't like being judged so this is my way of avoiding being judgmental myself. That being said, I'm sure you've already figured out how problematic that can be. Anyhoo, all was going well, thought we finally had a friend that we could trust and one that was a good person. Until he found a gf that was a drunk and encouraged him to stay off the wagon himself. He disappeared for several days and kinda left us high and dry-which bothered me but I was willing to let it go. That is until he came back very upset with some story about "bad people" and "having to do what he had to do" yet never said anything in detail except for he had to break someone's ribs. Come to find out a few days later when his gf and her friend showed up to tell him off and to yell at us for letting him use our phones to call/text her, that the person whose ribs he broke was hers. He had kept her drugged and drunk for several days while keeping her pretty much hostage because he thought he could buy time to get her ribs healed before anyone figured out what really happened. Lucky for her she's got friends/family that wouldn't stop trying to get ahold of her or who knows what worse things could've happened. It's not only his lying to us about the situation with his gf that pissed me off or the ghosting all while this was going on but the fact that he would always tell my husband how much he's learned from him about how to treat women that makes me sick! Not to mention those few days between what he was telling us and finding out the truth about what happened, he was totally sh*tfaced the whole time and kept slipping in truths about things he'd been lying to us about the whole year we knew him! Smh.

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BBsparkster614
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s a difference between being judgemental and going with your gut. If someone seems edgy, don’t go with them.

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#38

I am fine not sad at all

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#39

"I don't date black girls."
1. I'm mixed not black so the logic for turning me down didn't make sense. He literally could have just said he wasn't interested in me.
2. Cut to 6yrs later ran into him in a burrito shop with his three mixed kids and his black wife.

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#40

That I was depressed and the only way to ever get better was to pump my system full of semi addictive drugs. These 'Professionals ' didn't do their research. If they did,they would have realized I was more suicidal than depressed. Sure I Have PTSD but that doesn't mean I'm automatically depressed. I have trouble sleeping ,because I'm an insomniac. I have been since I was little. And now people who actually need the meds I'm taking can't get them because gealthcare decided to waste them on me.

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BBsparkster614
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People believe that trauma, depression and suicidal thoughts can be solved the same way. I’ve had all three, they’re very different. (Ps I’m better now)

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#41

My roommate in the DV program. Pathological liar, meth addict. One day, she tells me that the 311 song "Amber" was written for her & bc of her. She says she met the lead singer one night and he fell for her. She says he kept running his hands through her long red hair & that's why he wrote it. The next morning she was digging through the dumpster (she was in it!) and I remember thinking "I don't think she's his type." I could be wrong though.😉

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#42

It's not you, it's me.......
complete bs

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CORGI QUEEN
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

sometimes people are in fact going through depression episodes, i broke up with someone because I felt that they didn't need me and that I was a waste of space... I am still here and not a waste of space

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#43

Not exactly outrageous, but when I was a kid, like 8, I was walking into my dad's bedroom and saw a light on in a closet. I opened it and saw plants. He saw me, closed the door, I asked him what he was growing. He told me 'I'm growing tomatoes.' It wasn't until I was a teenager that I realized that they weren't tomatoes, but marijuana plants.

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#44

My Ex told me "Of course I won't use your past trauma against you!" then proceeds to do exactly that!

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#45

The election was stolen

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#46

As told to me by my Ex Husband. He said he was part of a special team put together by the local gang task force. His job was to start gang wars between different factions in the hopes that they would end each other with out getting civilians involved. Yeah, He didn't have a job. I looked past this and many other bright red waving banners because young and naive. Eventually, I did leave him. I explained that the rent was paid until the following month and that I'd be out by that weekend. He could get a roomate (mistress) and stay or move out, that the lease could be broken because he had technically lost his job (he had quit) He just had to tell them that. Years later, I ran into the leasing agent and we got to talking. She told me that he had said he joined black hawk security and was being deployed. She didn't believe a word of it and just put it down that he was unemployed. She laughed when I told her that yeah, and he moved back into his mom's house where he lives to this day. smh

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Jynxiecat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol.....sounds like you're ex husband and my ex husband are in the same club.

#47

"Quit now and cake will be served immediately."

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P.A.B.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I definitely would have fallen for that cake story and quit immediately!!! 😆

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#48

I had a flatmate who constantly faked having epilepsy to get attention. She would just drop anywhere and start 'fitting' if she was either not the centre of attention or getting her way. If this happened at home i would just step over her and ignore it.....would freak out visitors etc but I would just fill them in and she would suddenly recover......I ended the lease early and got the hell away from her....

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David
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Epilepsy = FAKE Mental Health Issues = REAL. This reminds me of those videos of toddlers who are acting totally normal / happy and then when they realize the adult can see them, suddenly "switch on" the tears and screaming. Edit: there was one video where the parent kept hiding / appearing and the toddler switched on and off about six times.

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#49

When I was little, like 6 or 7, I was told that video games would make my brain melt. And I believed it.

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CHRIS DOMRES
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The brain will not melt but as an example the kid next door in 9th grade has no idea how to read a ruler, has no idea there are three feet to a yard, cannot read a digital clock, knows absolutely nothing practical for getting through life, but can solve a Rubik's Cube in a minute and scores high on many video games.

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This was maybe 10 years ago. My husband’s sister asked if we could take care of her daughter, our nice, over the weekend when she had to attend a job conference. Later, on the evening she put a picture on FB, saying how much she enjoyed being home by herself, taking a bath and a glass of wine, painting her toenails, just relaxing. She was so new to Facebook, she didn’t realize everything she posted could be seen, not just by the people she wanted , but also by us 😂😂. If she’d ask us to watch her girl for her to get time for her self, we would of course have said yes. But now she lied, and when we confronted her she got really aggressive and said it was her entitlement to have alone time, not understanding that the issue was her manipulative ways that was the problem. A year later she asked my husband to be a witness of her character in a trial, but he denied, saying he could not rightfully testify she was a liable person. 🤣

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David
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL. I had (relative) ask me to be a character witness for them in court. I said, "Well, you've spent the last couple of years slandering me and telling people (falsely) that I am a bad person who did "X" and telling a bunch of lies about me. Including (other person that would be in court). It seems likely (other person) will point out to the judge that according to you I'm not a good person to give a character reference.". ... "Okay, I'll find someone else". lololol. TLDR: Absolutely threw me under the bus with lies but wanted me to help them throw someone else under the bus. GTFO please.

#51

When I was in school, from first grade all the way until I graduated high school, I was bullied. I was constantly told, "If you ignore them, they'll leave you alone." I once ignored them for three whole months. Big surprise. They didn't leave me alone.

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David
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel sorry for today's kids. In 7th grade and 9th or 10th grade I beat up my bullies. They didn't bully me again and neither did anyone else. These days I'd probably be arrested / expelled for defending myself. (note - the bullying was physical assault, not just words)

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#52

That Mr Whippy only plays his tune when he’s RUN OUT of ice cream. Never listened to my dad again…

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#53

Becoming an adult would be good.

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Julie Snelling
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You never feel like an adult even when you are one. You always feel like a kid pretending to be a grown up.

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#54

Not me, but my brother. He was dating this girl who I did not like, not that that's relavent. She was mean and BONKERS! But the most outrageous thing she did was 'coming clean' to my brother about her past relationship. She told him that she used to date Usher. They broke up years ago, but apparently they still talk sometimes. Well the last time they spoke Usher kissed her. My brother was dumbfounded and didn't know how to respond so he yelled at her "How could you do this to me!?" He obviously didn't believe her, but he was young (19 at the time), but I still make fun of him and we joke about it 15 years later.

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#55

Communism is a great idea.

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Lost Penny
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a decent idea, but that's all it is -- an idea. It had never nor will it ever work past that stage. Not on a global scale.

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#57

That it gets better

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CHRIS DOMRES
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The best thing I learned was that Yin/Yang symbol means everything cycles between constructive/destructive, from good/bad, happy/sad. One has to learn what to do to get through the rough part of the cycle faster or with minimum suffering.

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#58

"I'm divorced" cut to his wife blowing up my phone. It's been 4yrs pretty sure they are still married-- I'm loooooong gone.

... what sort of sick bastard introduces their impressionable pre-teen daughter to their gf when they are in fact married to her mum.

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Lene
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was sorta dating a guy for months and he'd keep telling me how his ex was an utter nutjob and that she was so jalous and wouldn't believe that he had broken up with her. One day she called me, screaming at me to leave her bf alone and that he wasn't interested in me and I simply had to understand that she was his gf -not me. I couldn't get a word into the conversation at all so I hung up on her. And then I texted the guy telling him to fork off. He did for a few months then texted me begging for a 2nd chance. I gave him that and then the gf started texting me angry texts. Eventually she understood that I had no blame in all that drama. I blocked the guy everywhere. Then a while later he was at a bar with some friends and I was there with a friend. At some point one of the guy's friends came over and said that the guy wanted to dance with me. I laughed that friend right in the face and said no. "Tell him he had his 2nd chance. There is NO 3rd chance here!"

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#59

That your opinion matters
You know how everyone is always saying ‘you should share your opinion’ while also stating that ‘you don’t need to share your opinion’
Usually when I’m expressing myself I get told that it’s ‘wrong’ because a majority believes otherwise and it just gives a crappy feeling when you feel invalidated

I once shared to some friends that I wasn’t a fan of Taylor Swift (they were) and one of them literally sent me a plethora of messages telling me that no one cares that I dislike her, I don’t need to say it
Then she had the audacity to end the rant by saying she wasn’t trying to invalidate anyone, she was just trying to say my opinion didn’t matter :D

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OmniPanda(she/they)
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a fan of Taylor Swift, but if you're not, no hate. We all have our own opinions, and I validate yours! :)

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This started happening about 15 years ago. In the midst of one of her usual hours long harangues about how I needed to smile and just get over being unhappy, since I was mired in a deep depression, my mother told me the theft of my diaries was "nothing" and that "I was making a big tragedy out of it."

All the while she was bitching at me to shape up and simply be the pleasant and happy daughter she wished for, she had been taking cell phone pictures of the pages of my handwritten journals and was texting them around to whoever she knew. When I moved out, that changed her little game, but by then other people had found it so entertaining how bothered I was when my writing got stolen that they kept it up on my mother's behalf. The stealing of my writing has become such a commonplace practice in my town that to this day, I have coworkers rummaging through my things to get at my notebooks and take pictures of the pages to pass around. I've taken extreme measures to protect my property, even buying a safe, and stopping writing entirely for a stretch. Still, whenever I am writing, I eventually slip up, drop my guard, and some of my diary pages invariably get stolen.

Having no privacy has destroyed any possibility I might have had at a social life. It's funny how your motivation to share yourself with others and form close, intimate bonds dries up when people just take it from you by force. Oh, and the celebrity I was writing about got wind of what I had written and hasn't stopped trolling me since. The only real peace I get anymore is when I'm unconscious, or, when I'm dead asleep and not dreaming.

Anyone reading this that knows me, feel free to admit it.
LOL! I know you won't, you repugnant sicko!

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Purplescales
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having your privacy invaded is indeed a horrible thing and I am sorry that you are still unable to have any peace. If you moved away from that town do you think you’d get a break from that sort of behavior?

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#61

I found greasy handprints above my ex's headboard. He kept a bottle of Baby lotion in his bedside cabinet for when we were doing the biz. The handprints weren't mine.
He said that his 4 y/o niece had done it. The prints were definitely not child sized, and considering they were above the headboard I'm quite glad.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe you’re telling us more than we really want to know here.

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#62

I once had three people try to convince me they were Swedish princesses in hiding.(we were in elementary school at the time) they all looked so much like their parents too! I finally asked one of the girls mum and she disproved it

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#63

I watched gremlins when I was little and it scared me. My older sister told me that anyone under the age of five had to stay awake for a week because if I fell asleep gremlins would come out of the ceiling and eat me alive. On the second night I cried because I couldn't stay awake and thought I was going to die.

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#64

That he nevet lies and hate every liers

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#66

Not telling me I had 15 different fish who all replace the original,Kat.(a comet goldfish)

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Many many people at my school have called me a psychopath/sociopath because I tend to keep my feelings to myself and (I will admit it) I have a very short temper and probably anger issues. I have also been told multiple times that I was ‘on dr*gs’ despite me literally BEGGING them to stop saying it because it made me uncomfortable. The dr*g comments have since stopped, but the psychopath/sociopath ones crop up every now and then.
I haven’t been tested or anything like that so I can’t say for sure if i have anger issues but it is possible. On that note, I also haven’t been tested for psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies. But I have no reason to since that is not something I am worried about. It’s not as though I have no moral compass? (I know that’s not all what it’s about but it is a very big part and that is the basic definition that the people at my school take) sorry for the slight rant but yknow, it’s a lie and it’s VERY annoying.
If someone is hyper and they’re excited for any reason, it doesn’t mean they’re on dr*gs. If someone doesn’t want you knowing every detail about their life (separate from what part of their life you’re included in), it doesn’t make them a psychopath or otherwise.

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#68

One of our friends once tried to convince us that she was abducted by aliens. You could see she made c**p up as she went along. She misinterpreted the looks on our faces for belief. It was utter disbelief as we could see her made up c**p extended to her own baffled brains. Needless to say, not friends anymore.

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#69

I love you and I'm not cheating.

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#70

The lie isn't to me but my ex's new husband. She told him that the names she picked out for their kids are her family names. They are not, the names come from my family.

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Timbob
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You mean, like Jane, and Thomas, and John? Things like that ?

#71

I was told we lost my childhood home because my mom had kidney disease and lost a kidney because of it. Later in life, my mom went into the hospital and I said she has lost a kidney. Turns out.... no she hasn't. 🤯

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Former co-worker (at the mall) who was short, red-headed, and freckled, told me she was a Native American Princess. Amongst many other obvious untruths. That one was a doozy though.

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I knew a dude who used the same bus stop as me. We would sometimes chat after school while waiting for our buses. This dude told me he was a trillionaire because he started some tech company. Not his parents. Him. All by himself. This 15 year old kid tried to convince me that he was one of the richest people in the world.

I kinda nodded along, not wanting to call him out. He obviously had some reason for such a bold lie. I did some googling though and no, he was not a 15 year old trillionaire.

It was shocking to say the least.

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#74

"I'm here for you." From my bio dad when he was trying to reconnect after 26yr absence. I asked him not to say that, he ignored me and kept right on saying it. I told him off and haven't spoken to him in 7yrs. Wonder if he gets it now.

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#75

Epstein killed himself in jail.

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#76

Enough is enough.

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#77

Someone told me that they were stabbed in the forehead while saving a baby from muggers. He had no scar, and there was nothing in the news about it on the date he gave me.

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