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Family And Friends Show No Empathy To Man Who Gets Slapped By Fiancée And Wants To Call Off Wedding
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Family And Friends Show No Empathy To Man Who Gets Slapped By Fiancée And Wants To Call Off Wedding

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Martin Luther once said, “Nothing good ever comes of violence,” and how accurate was he! For no violent battle has ever ended without maiming one side so terribly that it takes an eternity to recover from. Surprisingly, there are a few people who fail to understand the gravity of violence, no matter how small.

Just like the original poster’s (OP) fiancée who slapped him during a heated argument. However, when he threatened to call off the wedding, he faced backlash from his friends and family. They even accused him of ‘massively overreacting’. Lost in confusion, he sought advice online.

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This story is about a 28-year-old male who was supposed to get married to his 24-year-old fiancée in 6 months

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But something happened between them that made the poster reconsider his marriage to this particular woman

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One day, during a heated argument, she got angry and slapped him, which stunned him so much that he asked her to leave immediately

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This violent behavior from her made him reconsider things and he wanted to call off the wedding and end the relationship with her

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But he faced backlash from his friends and family who accused him of ‘massively overreacting’ and even called him ‘crazy’ for wanting to end things

Today, we dive into the grave story of Reddit user Educational_Tie_3335 who was stuck in a dilemma that completely rattled him. Let’s jump right into it. So, OP tells us that he was to be married to his fiancée in 6 months. However, things didn’t go as planned as the couple got into an argument about something very trivial.

The poster tried to keep things calm, however, overcome with anger, his fiancée slapped him, leaving him completely stunned. He asked her to leave but after she refused, he raised his voice and stressed, “You need to leave right now.” She obliged and went to stay with her sister. And this violent behavior made OP reconsider his decision to marry this woman.

And to be absolutely honest, nobody would want to be with a person who is capable of physically hurting them this way. However, his friends and family had a completely different opinion. This must’ve further hurt him because they all said that he was “massively overreacting” and even called him “crazy” for wanting to end things.

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When he tried to defend himself by stating what the outcome would’ve been if the roles were reversed, they replied, “You’re significantly taller than her and physically stronger, while there’s no chance she could ever physically overpower you.” Wow, that sounds so unreasonable and our heart just goes out to the poster.

But to make matters worse, he was even accused of weaponizing therapy language and appropriating the struggles of domestic cruelty victims. People even said that what happened to him was in no way comparable to what ‘genuine victims’ go through. Confused and disappointed altogether, he went online and asked for advice from the Reddit community.

They were surprised by the response that his friends and family gave because they felt that nobody should live in fear of their partner, and it doesn’t matter who is physically stronger as violence is never the answer to anything. They also stressed how domestic cruelty against men is overlooked and how unjust it can truly be. And we absolutely agree with them!

“When someone faces domestic violence from their partner, the impact can be profound. Emotionally, they can experience fear, anxiety, and depression. Their self-esteem erodes, and they may feel trapped or isolated. Long-term exposure to abuse can lead to complex trauma, affecting their overall well-being,” said Faizan Maniyar, a counselor that Bored Panda interviewed.

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As Redditors pointed out, if she did it once, she could do it again and this repetitive cruelty could develop a complex trauma in the poster.

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A study has shown that one in seven men (13.9%) will be victims of domestic cruelty in their lifetime. However, these male victims are not always taken seriously. The Center for Social Justice states, “Men are silenced by the hostility and incredulity they encounter when opening up about their experiences to the police and safeguarding services.”

And although it’s sad, it’s a truth that can be quite bitter to digest. Faizan said, “When domestic violence against men isn’t taken seriously, male victims face unique challenges. They may feel emasculated, ashamed, or hesitant to seek help due to societal norms. Lack of support can exacerbate feelings of isolation and vulnerability. It’s crucial to recognize that men can also be victims and provide them with resources and empathy.”

But the fact that he lacked basic empathy from the people he was closest to, that is his family and friends, speaks volumes about how messed up things can be with the world. Another thing that the netizens shed light on was the hurt he must have felt to go through something at the hands of someone that he loved and hoped to spend the rest of his life with. As per them, her drastic behavior was totally unjustifiable. 

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According to Faizan, “Violent behavior during arguments often stems from underlying issues. Some individuals lack healthy coping mechanisms, resorting to aggression when stressed. Insecure attachment styles, unresolved trauma, or learned behavior from their upbringing can contribute, too. Substance misuse, power dynamics, and poor communication skills also play a role.”

Well, it doesn’t matter why the fiancée did it, what matters is that she actually did it and nothing can be an excuse in this matter. The folks online supported his wish to call off the wedding and end that relationship. They also cheered him on for making this decision instead of suffering more because of it. They also advised him that his family’s and friends’ lack of support should not hamper him in his decision as it would be him, and not them, who had to live with her.

Peeps also said that if they ever had kids, who knows, she could even get aggressive with them. They also expressed that her apology could not fix what she did and that ending things would be the best solution here.

Do you agree with them? Have you, or anyone you know, experienced something similar? If yes, would you like to share your experience with us? All you have to do is scroll down and type away in the comments. We would love to hear from you!

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People online backed him up for his decision and talked about how male victims of domestic violence are overlooked and not taken seriously

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notlikeyou1971
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Listen to me. I'm a female domestic abuse survivor. This is how it starts. MEN CAN BE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE! ONCE IS ONE TIME TOO MANY! You would be a real fool to listen to anyone who condones this and wants you to stay in this. You're not overreacting or crazy. Don't even take a chance on staying with this abusive woman. Look at it this way. If you had slapped her not only would she had left you but also you'd be in handcuffs right now. Do you really want to have a life with someone like that? I would run not walk.I learned my lesson from my experience. THE FIRST TIME THEY HIT ME IS THE LAST TIME THEY SEE ME

David
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

a UK Study found that 40% of Domestic violence victims are men (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence) other studies show it a bit lower at 35%. But people forget about male victims. Violence is violence

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Colin Briggs
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's domestic abuse, regardless of who did it. had it have been you, the police would be called, you'd be charged & your relationship would be over. why is it different because it is a woman who did the abuse? shes hit you once, she'll do it again. get out now.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 5'2" mother was physically abusive towards my 5'11" father for my entire life. I used to walk in on him trying to staunch the bleeding on his arms and chest where she'd cut him with kitchen knives during her rampages. She would hit him and punch him. She would also verbally and emotionally abuse him as well, and threaten to "kill the kids" just to torture him more. He never fought back. He never so much as hit her back or shoved her. Men can be domestic abuse victims. Women can be abusers. OP's fiancé will NOT stop with this "one" slap, because now she knows she can get her way and OP won't do anything to stop her. She will then likely eventually become abusive and violent towards their children, were they to have any - ask me how I know THAT. Hint: my father wasn't the only person in the family that my mom would beat and cut with knives.

Janelle Collard
Community Member
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

GIANT red flag! OP, run as fast as you can away from her and cancel that wedding! What happens if you have kids + the kids p**s her off? Do you want that for your children? Abusers don't stop - they escalate. Anyone who tells you this is no big deal can f**k right the the hell off + you should go NC with all of them.

Saphyre Fyre
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, my GOD! Abuse is abuse!! It starts with a slap and gets worse. If she can't control her anger, she needs help. If she won't get it, leave her. DO NOT MARRY HER UNTIL SHE HAS GOTTEN HELP AND PROVES SHE WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN.

Noneofyourbusiness
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's a lot of assumptions for a one-sided story that we don't have any context for. Notice he said it was a trivial thing and didn't provide any information on what the argument was. Painting him to be perfect, if there's no one that supports him, I'm thinking there might be more to the story than he's telling us.

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C.O. Shea
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The engagement period is for just this reason... to find out who someone really is. Believe them! Trust your gut! It's the only one not lying to you.

Ryan-James O'Driscoll
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the ways in which female abusers manipulate male victims is using the fact that if they retaliate or defend themselves they are likely to be perceived as the aggressor. Another is the knowledge that many others will not believe that a man who is physically bigger and stronger can be abused by a woman.

Stacy Jones
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a woman, and I was raised a hitter. My parents and stepparents all spanked, a lot, I had a passel of siblings and stepsiblings, and we were frequently advised to solve our disputes through violence. I genuinely didn't think there was anything wrong with slapping someone on the arm when they said something stupid, or throwing a light punch to the shoulder to drive home a point. When I met my now husband, he set me straight quick, fast, and in a hurry. He invited me to think about the optics if the gender roles were reversed, and it really got through to me. IT'S NEVER OK TO HIT. NTA eta: I didn't hit my husband when we were dating, I threatened to hit him once, and that's when he set me straight.

Rebel Peewee
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You just don't hit another person of its not self-defense. Period. So obnoxious to think so many people in his life don't agree.

Noneofyourbusiness
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But if no one in his life agrees with him, I tend to think that he's not giving us the whole story. Context absolutely matters! A normally non-violent person won't go to the extreme of smacking or hitting someone as their first line of defense. He only says it was trivial, but I've seen a lot of these posts where it comes out that it is a lot more about the poster trying to make him themselves innocent, been telling the whole story. I'm not saying it's not possible that she is abusive, I'm just saying he didn't mention it, and he would have.

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tuzdayschild
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are absolutely NOT TA. If it was reversed and a man slapped a woman in the anger of an argument, people would tell her to press charges.

Angela C
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Abuse is never ok no matter who's doing it. Dude needs to leave. It'll only get worse.

Janice
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My friend was in a relationship with a woman who attacked him repeatedly. Because he was so much bigger than her and a man, he didn't see it for what it was ... Then, one day neighbors called the police because they heard yelling. She told the police he attacked her. His torn shirt, scratches on his face and arms had scratches so deep, there was blood - she had bruises on each arm where he grabbed her in defense. He was arrested and taken to jail. He has issues with being single, so he stayed with her. Attorney fees, anxiety and the fear of being convicted were enough that the idiot (my friend) took a plea deal and was sentenced to anger control classes and more. The worst part about it, like the OP, people who heard about it, thought it wasn't a big deal because she's tiny and he's a man. Abuse is abuse and it isn't limited to gender

TheBlueBitterfly
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My dad's current wife used to beat the shìt out of him, flick lit cigarettes in his face, break his glasses, etc, when she was drunk (and she was ALWAYS drunk.) He never fought back because he knew he'd be tossed in jail. What the fianceè did was assault, plain and simple. Anyone who excuses this behavior is accomplice to domestic abuse. Period. I don't care if he's a 7ft body builder who can dead lift a car, and she's 80 lbs soaking wet with the muscle tone of a two-hour-old kitten.

Mohamed Reda
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, you giving her a slap back might indeed cause her to shed some blood from her ears or something. But here's the thing, physical abuse was never about how strong or weak you are, more about the act itself. It's often said to men that they should let it slide because in most cases, you can theoretically more than defend yourself. But, this isn't a street fight with some drunk man. No, this is supposedly your future wife and life partner. Do you want to go back to this every day? Nah, run away. There are droves of men who commit suicide due to lives with these types of women. Don't underestimate the situation just because you're a man and she's a woman.

Anxious&Bored Bear
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"No Violence" is a perfectly acceptable boundary. The people excusing her behavior don't have to live with her, therefore their opinions don't matter.

Susie Elle
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A slap may not hurt much, but it won't stop there. Also, the amount of pain inflicted is no measure of whether something is abuse or not. She physically attacked you. Run while you still can.

Angela C
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And it's not just about the physical pain, it's also the emotional pain of realizing that someone you thought loved you (because if someone abuses you they do not love you no matter what they say) could intentionally hurt you

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SheamusFanFrom1987
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The double-standard of OP's sh*tty family and friends is astounding. I seriously hope OP breaks up not just with his fiance, but drops the entire contingent of people for siding with her. Remember Pandas, it starts with one slap or one wrong move. It will sure as hell escalate from there... -_-"

Donkey boi
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For once we have an AITA from Reddit that is recent (only posted 2 days ago). No further update at the moment, so we might have to wait a while for one.

john doe
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once had a GF who was about 5'0 and 110 lbs, she was very abusive, hit me constantly I'd have bruises on my shoulders where she punched me the most. I am 6'0 and 225 obviously I could take her in a fight but that's not the point, the constant hitting made me flinchy and jumpy around her whenever she moved quick or grabbed something by me, she thought it was hilarious. I was just young at the time and I didn't realize how much that sucked and how it was definitely abuse. To this day (12 years later) I still sometimes flinch when my wife who is about her size grabs near me or moves quickly in my personal space. My wife has never hit or slapped me in anyway but I still flinch away from her like she was my ex sometimes, it's abuse it took me a while to realize it and it shouldn't be tolerated by anyone.

Michelle C
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m glad you got out and you are married to someone who truly loves you now!

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Sophia Athene
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To all the sexist a$$holes who claim feminists don't support men who experience domestic abuse or some sexist issue, here we are!!! So many feminists supporting this man, acknowledging that he is a victim, and decidedly declaring the woman as the abuser. But will any of you acknowledge this about these feminists here? Absolutely not. It screws up your nice little narrative about women (obv men can't be feminists based on these A-holes' argument). For you complete idiots who claimed I wouldn't stand up for man, fu©k you! This man needs to keep his resolve to dump her and then cut out the family that doesn't support him. The family is exactly why men are afraid to report and I bet these family members are the ones who bemoan men who don't come forward about abuse b/c they think no one will believe him.

Amy Manzanares
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domestic abuse starts with the first hit. My policy is "you only get to hit me once".

Angela C
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

100%. If you're gonna cross that line you best make it count cuz that's the last you'll see of me

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Natalia
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who the f**k are the 2% that agree with his family? Out yourselves.

CatWoman1014
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men hardly ever get proper support when it comes to domestic violence. Slapping him was just the initial reaction, and test to see what she could get away with. She’ll absolutely do it again and he’s best to end it now before it gets worse.

Ephemera Image
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domestic violence is not a gender issue. Someone who slaps you in the heat of anger (or who throws something at you, or punches the wall) is a person who will not control their anger. because they don't want to. There is no excuse, EVER, from either sex, to hit anyone. It will always escalalte. Always!

BlitheSpirit
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn’t the “only” time she’s done it…it’s the first.

Michelle C
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope! If she had to defend herself or a loved one him, that would be one thing. That she cannot control her emotions enough to express disagreement with him peacefully speaks volumes about what she is capable of doing if she doesn’t change her attitude and behaviors. He has every right to protect himself from her.

Mr. Jones
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he slapped her, this would be an easy said and done and both families would have disowned him. It doesn't change just because she slapped him. F**k that.

Rebekah Fuentes
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Guarantee this is not the first time this has happened if her family is defending her actions. They were just hoping that OP would just let it slide in order to marry her off and make her someone else's problem.

Noneofyourbusiness
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not her family, it's his! And if no one in his family is supporting him, I'm guessing that he's not giving us everything. Context matters! She may be abusive, he may be more guilty in the situation than he wants to let us believe.

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Milady Blue
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Abuse is abuse - whether it is a man abusing a woman, or a woman abusing a man. End of discussion. I have known victims of domestic violence, of both genders.

Livingwithcfs
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I expect the slap was the straw that broke the camels back. A slap is not ok in any circumstances but his reaction suggests there have been other little things that may have hit him as off but maybe it's his imagination, he's overreacting, but his mind has noted these red flags and this was the one where his brain has finally yelled loud enough to run. This is what happens in abusive relationships lots of little signs tgat are easy to ignore, unfortunately domestic abuse doesn't care if your man or woman it's not ok to feel unsafe in a relationship. He's totally done the right thing

Valerie Woods
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Serious question: In the poll, who are the sick 1% that think he's overreacting and doesn't need support?

Craig Reynolds
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. It is never acceptable to hit anyone except in self-defense. Of course, as a man, if you hit her back, you are the one going to jail and she knows it. YWBTA is you don't end the relationship because it will consistently worsen if she gets away with it this time. She showed no remorse until you called it off and realized, "Oh cr@p, consequences." If she was easily violent over a minor argument she is capable of much worse. She is likely enraged now over the result, so document everything in case she becomes a stalker or files a false police report accusing you of assault. Do not meet with her privately. Don't let her back in. Pack her stuff up yourself and find someone to take it to her. Please do NOT take her back. You do NOT want children with her as she will abuse them.

elmortero
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTAH, and you know it. Doesn't even matter you are taller, stronger etc. Looks you are a decent person and they are not. Than imbalance will be used and abused, and over time even less respected by them for it. They confuse your being a decent person for being a push-over and you - in their mind - ask for it. Also, everyone has a breaking point, so in the long run you start to believe too you deserve it OR you snap, respond with violence too. And no matter what level of violence, even if it is just a push, not even a slap, it is very unlikely you will be met with the same understanding/minimizing and end up being the abuser in the eyes of people who now tell you not to exaggerated. True, she might get "better" with anger management, but that is her journey, not yours and you do NOT need to be there as a punching bag while she "improves"

Untamed Snark
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't matter that she's smaller than he is, it was still domestic abuse and he is absolutely right to leave. The family are completely wrong.

Alexia
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are more red flags in this relationship than in the Red Army. There is only one instance when her gesture might have been justifiable - if OP had attacked her first, and she had slapped him trying to defend herself. Which was not the case. OP should stick to his decision, and f***k off his crappy family & friends.

Andrew Clapperton
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a man who survive abuse from my partner, I will say leave now. I did not, and I should have. It only gets worse. This is not something that you can change in her. Forgiving her, promises from her, and even counselling will not change this dynamic. You will never be able to trust her. Be thankful you discovered it now.

Becca not Becky
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They said she's smaller and can't physically overpower him, but what if she decides to grab an object during a heated fight? Abuse is abuse.

Steve Hall
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is someone like that going to act around children in the future, if children are planned?

DarkViolet
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domestic violence is domestic violence, regardless of the gender. OP needs to put a considerable amount of distance between the GF and himself. While he's at it, he should also tell the flying monkeys to mind their own damned business. The (hopefully) STBX needs to take anger management classes and keep this in mind: some guys don't play that shìt. At. All. The next time she pulls a "Joan Crawford" on someone, she could very well end up picking up her missing teeth with broken fingers. That, or standing before her Maker. Jus' sayin'.

Tobias Reaper
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this makes me sick the double standards as he said if it was reversed nobody would say anything but somehow its perfectly fine if it happens to a man. Before anyone comments about how this happens to women all the time I know it does and this by no means lessens that its the double standards that get me.

Sophia Athene
Community Member
3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hi, Tobias, come back and read the comments now. At this exact moment, they all (but three idiots and a few hidden comments) support this man! And none of them engaged in the whataboutism, "But men/women experience abuse too."

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Crep 105
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, no, his friends/family are 100% gaslighting him here. It has all the telltale signs. They're also trying to downplay the abuse, which is an equally massive red flag.

Gale Christensen
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once brought a crowded restaurant to a screeching halt by screaming at a drunk girl for chasing her date into the lobby and hitting him in the back of the head. I was hostess, and I WENT OFF on her. I even had the cooks in the kitchen stop cooking to see WTH was going on. I tore her a new one and when my managers ran over scared to death because I can do a damn good drill instructor impresonation when I need to, and I told them what happend and to call the cops. I wasn't letting her leave. GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD YOU STUPID AH'S!!! Men can be and are victims of domestic violence all the damn time and it is NEVER okay for anyone to hit someone else!! I don't care if he's Dwayne Johnson and she's little orphan Annie!!!

Paul C
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Violence like that is not a one off. It will escalate. What happens if she loses her s**t with a child in later years? I have wanted to strangle some of my at the time current, but now ex partners over the years, but could never consider raising a hand to them. The only time it ever happened to me, I walked away and never spoke to them again. That was easier pre-Internet / mobile phones. It's still the only time I didn't listen to my father's advice to hit someone back if they hit you.

Plant Wizard
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This really depends on the argument and how it was handled by both parties. Everyone here is stating this is physical abuse but what about verbal abuse? We have no context of what the argument was about. Many people are verbally abused and are not able to fight back verbally their brains just don't work that way. For people like this they get angry and frustrated but cannot fight back in the same manner they are being attacked. The only way they can defend themselves is to slap the other person in hopes that it will stop. Verbal abuse is in many cases far worse that physical abuse because it attacks them as a person, it destroys their soul. It can make the person feel worthless and unable to function. Its also not visible. So before you judge someone because they slapped find out what was really going on.

Chris Laney
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A red flag ought to be going up, because if she is going to be violent over something "trivial," as described, what would she do if they are having more serious difficulties? Throw objects? Damage property? And if she is that quick to anger, how would she react to the children?

Melissa anderson
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he slapped her, everyone would be on her side and calling him an abuser who should be in jail. She slapped him and everyone thinks it’s ok and is even laughing about it. Why the blatant hypocrisy? Don’t people have any integrity anymore?

Sophia Athene
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least the vast, vast majority of commenters here agree with you that she's the abuser.

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LaserBrain
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Considering ending things" with someone who slapped you intead of using words? Male or female, that should be the end of things right there. Do you not realise it's only going to get worse if you get married

Ruth Watry
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

10 percent of domestic abusers are women (had a male coworker who lost a tooth, but was too embarrassed to admit that he was a victim). Definitely are reason to break off the relationship.

iseefractals
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Around 40% of domestic abuse violence is perpetrated by women, in 2021 women were responsible for 60% of reported incidences of child abuse. But we almost never hear anything about it, and when we do it's either brushed off, mocked or more often turned around "well, what did YOU do to that poor woman to drive her to do that?!" It's disgusting, and inexcusable. If this is how things are before you're married, it's only going to get worse from there...and no one will care. Unless you, as a man being abused by a woman get to the point of defending yourself....at which point you'll be labeled the abuser.

Brooklyn States
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So she slapped you in the face, she physically assaulted you,. you told her to leave and you're thinking about ending things and everybody is telling you you're overreacting and like you said , if you slapped her in the face and physically assaulted her, and she told you to leave and she was thinking about ending things with you I guarantee nobody would tell her she's overreacting in fact I can guarantee you everybody would tell her to call the police and file assault charges. Her apology does not change anything.. stand your ground here, I'm telling you this, for your sake This relationship has to end.

Gene Perry
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She slapped you. End of story. The only thing she should be hitting is the road!

Skeptie
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hope this guy ran and did not just walked away. I can't tell.you how many DV patients I admitted - men - who'd had the stuffing beat out of them by a wife, or a male partner. It is not okay to hit, or verbally, physically, or emotionally abuse others. Person to person abuse just isn't okay. The masses aren't up to the task of growth and enlightenment. Good God, we're actually looking like we're going to get the Toddler Bully in chief back representing us to the rest of the world. This poor fiancé has way too many gaslighters around him who are dumber thsn a box of hair. I think we might need to realize that civil discourse has been beaten to death by the bully gene, God help us.

deletemyaccount
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't marry a woman who hit me. In my area its always the Mans fault. I had a friend who spent the night in jail after is wife beat him. He tried to restrain her to stop it leaving her wrists red. the cops were required to arrest him even with multiple whitness telling them that he was the victim.

ThisIsMe
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Therapy. Pre-marital counseling. Something. Do not go into this marriage without reviewing what happened with a professional first.

JayWantsACat
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Abuse is abuse but there are significant differences, both literal and figurative, as to why men abusing women is looked at and handled different than women abusing men. OP is correct and should not sweep this under the rug and his friends and family doing so is a huge red flag. But if your argument is purely "wHat iF tHe gEnDeRS wERe rEveRsed" all you're doing is pointing out the obivous while completely ignoring what saying that is an issue. Be better.

AR
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ALWAYS leave if your partner physically attacks you because it will ALWAYS get worse. Gender doesn’t matter.

BK BigFish
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Before we got married, my wife and I got into a fight, she slapped me. Hasn't happened since. We've been married 10 years with 2 kids. Sometimes a slap is just a slap. But yah, go ahead and throw away the relationship over a slap. In fact, since she's obviously an abuser, she should go to jail for life. She should burn in hell for all eternity, too, while we're at it.

Ephemera Image
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well good for you.You got lucky and hse never did it again. Advocating that a slap is just a slap? I mean, WTAF? Is that what you tell your kids? Is that what she does to your kids?

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notlikeyou1971
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Listen to me. I'm a female domestic abuse survivor. This is how it starts. MEN CAN BE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE! ONCE IS ONE TIME TOO MANY! You would be a real fool to listen to anyone who condones this and wants you to stay in this. You're not overreacting or crazy. Don't even take a chance on staying with this abusive woman. Look at it this way. If you had slapped her not only would she had left you but also you'd be in handcuffs right now. Do you really want to have a life with someone like that? I would run not walk.I learned my lesson from my experience. THE FIRST TIME THEY HIT ME IS THE LAST TIME THEY SEE ME

David
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

a UK Study found that 40% of Domestic violence victims are men (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence) other studies show it a bit lower at 35%. But people forget about male victims. Violence is violence

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Colin Briggs
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's domestic abuse, regardless of who did it. had it have been you, the police would be called, you'd be charged & your relationship would be over. why is it different because it is a woman who did the abuse? shes hit you once, she'll do it again. get out now.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 5'2" mother was physically abusive towards my 5'11" father for my entire life. I used to walk in on him trying to staunch the bleeding on his arms and chest where she'd cut him with kitchen knives during her rampages. She would hit him and punch him. She would also verbally and emotionally abuse him as well, and threaten to "kill the kids" just to torture him more. He never fought back. He never so much as hit her back or shoved her. Men can be domestic abuse victims. Women can be abusers. OP's fiancé will NOT stop with this "one" slap, because now she knows she can get her way and OP won't do anything to stop her. She will then likely eventually become abusive and violent towards their children, were they to have any - ask me how I know THAT. Hint: my father wasn't the only person in the family that my mom would beat and cut with knives.

Janelle Collard
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

GIANT red flag! OP, run as fast as you can away from her and cancel that wedding! What happens if you have kids + the kids p**s her off? Do you want that for your children? Abusers don't stop - they escalate. Anyone who tells you this is no big deal can f**k right the the hell off + you should go NC with all of them.

Saphyre Fyre
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, my GOD! Abuse is abuse!! It starts with a slap and gets worse. If she can't control her anger, she needs help. If she won't get it, leave her. DO NOT MARRY HER UNTIL SHE HAS GOTTEN HELP AND PROVES SHE WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN.

Noneofyourbusiness
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's a lot of assumptions for a one-sided story that we don't have any context for. Notice he said it was a trivial thing and didn't provide any information on what the argument was. Painting him to be perfect, if there's no one that supports him, I'm thinking there might be more to the story than he's telling us.

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C.O. Shea
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The engagement period is for just this reason... to find out who someone really is. Believe them! Trust your gut! It's the only one not lying to you.

Ryan-James O'Driscoll
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the ways in which female abusers manipulate male victims is using the fact that if they retaliate or defend themselves they are likely to be perceived as the aggressor. Another is the knowledge that many others will not believe that a man who is physically bigger and stronger can be abused by a woman.

Stacy Jones
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a woman, and I was raised a hitter. My parents and stepparents all spanked, a lot, I had a passel of siblings and stepsiblings, and we were frequently advised to solve our disputes through violence. I genuinely didn't think there was anything wrong with slapping someone on the arm when they said something stupid, or throwing a light punch to the shoulder to drive home a point. When I met my now husband, he set me straight quick, fast, and in a hurry. He invited me to think about the optics if the gender roles were reversed, and it really got through to me. IT'S NEVER OK TO HIT. NTA eta: I didn't hit my husband when we were dating, I threatened to hit him once, and that's when he set me straight.

Rebel Peewee
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You just don't hit another person of its not self-defense. Period. So obnoxious to think so many people in his life don't agree.

Noneofyourbusiness
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But if no one in his life agrees with him, I tend to think that he's not giving us the whole story. Context absolutely matters! A normally non-violent person won't go to the extreme of smacking or hitting someone as their first line of defense. He only says it was trivial, but I've seen a lot of these posts where it comes out that it is a lot more about the poster trying to make him themselves innocent, been telling the whole story. I'm not saying it's not possible that she is abusive, I'm just saying he didn't mention it, and he would have.

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tuzdayschild
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are absolutely NOT TA. If it was reversed and a man slapped a woman in the anger of an argument, people would tell her to press charges.

Angela C
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Abuse is never ok no matter who's doing it. Dude needs to leave. It'll only get worse.

Janice
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My friend was in a relationship with a woman who attacked him repeatedly. Because he was so much bigger than her and a man, he didn't see it for what it was ... Then, one day neighbors called the police because they heard yelling. She told the police he attacked her. His torn shirt, scratches on his face and arms had scratches so deep, there was blood - she had bruises on each arm where he grabbed her in defense. He was arrested and taken to jail. He has issues with being single, so he stayed with her. Attorney fees, anxiety and the fear of being convicted were enough that the idiot (my friend) took a plea deal and was sentenced to anger control classes and more. The worst part about it, like the OP, people who heard about it, thought it wasn't a big deal because she's tiny and he's a man. Abuse is abuse and it isn't limited to gender

TheBlueBitterfly
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My dad's current wife used to beat the shìt out of him, flick lit cigarettes in his face, break his glasses, etc, when she was drunk (and she was ALWAYS drunk.) He never fought back because he knew he'd be tossed in jail. What the fianceè did was assault, plain and simple. Anyone who excuses this behavior is accomplice to domestic abuse. Period. I don't care if he's a 7ft body builder who can dead lift a car, and she's 80 lbs soaking wet with the muscle tone of a two-hour-old kitten.

Mohamed Reda
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, you giving her a slap back might indeed cause her to shed some blood from her ears or something. But here's the thing, physical abuse was never about how strong or weak you are, more about the act itself. It's often said to men that they should let it slide because in most cases, you can theoretically more than defend yourself. But, this isn't a street fight with some drunk man. No, this is supposedly your future wife and life partner. Do you want to go back to this every day? Nah, run away. There are droves of men who commit suicide due to lives with these types of women. Don't underestimate the situation just because you're a man and she's a woman.

Anxious&Bored Bear
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"No Violence" is a perfectly acceptable boundary. The people excusing her behavior don't have to live with her, therefore their opinions don't matter.

Susie Elle
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A slap may not hurt much, but it won't stop there. Also, the amount of pain inflicted is no measure of whether something is abuse or not. She physically attacked you. Run while you still can.

Angela C
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And it's not just about the physical pain, it's also the emotional pain of realizing that someone you thought loved you (because if someone abuses you they do not love you no matter what they say) could intentionally hurt you

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SheamusFanFrom1987
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The double-standard of OP's sh*tty family and friends is astounding. I seriously hope OP breaks up not just with his fiance, but drops the entire contingent of people for siding with her. Remember Pandas, it starts with one slap or one wrong move. It will sure as hell escalate from there... -_-"

Donkey boi
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For once we have an AITA from Reddit that is recent (only posted 2 days ago). No further update at the moment, so we might have to wait a while for one.

john doe
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once had a GF who was about 5'0 and 110 lbs, she was very abusive, hit me constantly I'd have bruises on my shoulders where she punched me the most. I am 6'0 and 225 obviously I could take her in a fight but that's not the point, the constant hitting made me flinchy and jumpy around her whenever she moved quick or grabbed something by me, she thought it was hilarious. I was just young at the time and I didn't realize how much that sucked and how it was definitely abuse. To this day (12 years later) I still sometimes flinch when my wife who is about her size grabs near me or moves quickly in my personal space. My wife has never hit or slapped me in anyway but I still flinch away from her like she was my ex sometimes, it's abuse it took me a while to realize it and it shouldn't be tolerated by anyone.

Michelle C
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m glad you got out and you are married to someone who truly loves you now!

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Sophia Athene
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To all the sexist a$$holes who claim feminists don't support men who experience domestic abuse or some sexist issue, here we are!!! So many feminists supporting this man, acknowledging that he is a victim, and decidedly declaring the woman as the abuser. But will any of you acknowledge this about these feminists here? Absolutely not. It screws up your nice little narrative about women (obv men can't be feminists based on these A-holes' argument). For you complete idiots who claimed I wouldn't stand up for man, fu©k you! This man needs to keep his resolve to dump her and then cut out the family that doesn't support him. The family is exactly why men are afraid to report and I bet these family members are the ones who bemoan men who don't come forward about abuse b/c they think no one will believe him.

Amy Manzanares
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domestic abuse starts with the first hit. My policy is "you only get to hit me once".

Angela C
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

100%. If you're gonna cross that line you best make it count cuz that's the last you'll see of me

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Natalia
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who the f**k are the 2% that agree with his family? Out yourselves.

CatWoman1014
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men hardly ever get proper support when it comes to domestic violence. Slapping him was just the initial reaction, and test to see what she could get away with. She’ll absolutely do it again and he’s best to end it now before it gets worse.

Ephemera Image
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domestic violence is not a gender issue. Someone who slaps you in the heat of anger (or who throws something at you, or punches the wall) is a person who will not control their anger. because they don't want to. There is no excuse, EVER, from either sex, to hit anyone. It will always escalalte. Always!

BlitheSpirit
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn’t the “only” time she’s done it…it’s the first.

Michelle C
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope! If she had to defend herself or a loved one him, that would be one thing. That she cannot control her emotions enough to express disagreement with him peacefully speaks volumes about what she is capable of doing if she doesn’t change her attitude and behaviors. He has every right to protect himself from her.

Mr. Jones
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he slapped her, this would be an easy said and done and both families would have disowned him. It doesn't change just because she slapped him. F**k that.

Rebekah Fuentes
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Guarantee this is not the first time this has happened if her family is defending her actions. They were just hoping that OP would just let it slide in order to marry her off and make her someone else's problem.

Noneofyourbusiness
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not her family, it's his! And if no one in his family is supporting him, I'm guessing that he's not giving us everything. Context matters! She may be abusive, he may be more guilty in the situation than he wants to let us believe.

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Milady Blue
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Abuse is abuse - whether it is a man abusing a woman, or a woman abusing a man. End of discussion. I have known victims of domestic violence, of both genders.

Livingwithcfs
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I expect the slap was the straw that broke the camels back. A slap is not ok in any circumstances but his reaction suggests there have been other little things that may have hit him as off but maybe it's his imagination, he's overreacting, but his mind has noted these red flags and this was the one where his brain has finally yelled loud enough to run. This is what happens in abusive relationships lots of little signs tgat are easy to ignore, unfortunately domestic abuse doesn't care if your man or woman it's not ok to feel unsafe in a relationship. He's totally done the right thing

Valerie Woods
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Serious question: In the poll, who are the sick 1% that think he's overreacting and doesn't need support?

Craig Reynolds
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. It is never acceptable to hit anyone except in self-defense. Of course, as a man, if you hit her back, you are the one going to jail and she knows it. YWBTA is you don't end the relationship because it will consistently worsen if she gets away with it this time. She showed no remorse until you called it off and realized, "Oh cr@p, consequences." If she was easily violent over a minor argument she is capable of much worse. She is likely enraged now over the result, so document everything in case she becomes a stalker or files a false police report accusing you of assault. Do not meet with her privately. Don't let her back in. Pack her stuff up yourself and find someone to take it to her. Please do NOT take her back. You do NOT want children with her as she will abuse them.

elmortero
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTAH, and you know it. Doesn't even matter you are taller, stronger etc. Looks you are a decent person and they are not. Than imbalance will be used and abused, and over time even less respected by them for it. They confuse your being a decent person for being a push-over and you - in their mind - ask for it. Also, everyone has a breaking point, so in the long run you start to believe too you deserve it OR you snap, respond with violence too. And no matter what level of violence, even if it is just a push, not even a slap, it is very unlikely you will be met with the same understanding/minimizing and end up being the abuser in the eyes of people who now tell you not to exaggerated. True, she might get "better" with anger management, but that is her journey, not yours and you do NOT need to be there as a punching bag while she "improves"

Untamed Snark
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't matter that she's smaller than he is, it was still domestic abuse and he is absolutely right to leave. The family are completely wrong.

Alexia
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are more red flags in this relationship than in the Red Army. There is only one instance when her gesture might have been justifiable - if OP had attacked her first, and she had slapped him trying to defend herself. Which was not the case. OP should stick to his decision, and f***k off his crappy family & friends.

Andrew Clapperton
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a man who survive abuse from my partner, I will say leave now. I did not, and I should have. It only gets worse. This is not something that you can change in her. Forgiving her, promises from her, and even counselling will not change this dynamic. You will never be able to trust her. Be thankful you discovered it now.

Becca not Becky
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They said she's smaller and can't physically overpower him, but what if she decides to grab an object during a heated fight? Abuse is abuse.

Steve Hall
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is someone like that going to act around children in the future, if children are planned?

DarkViolet
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Domestic violence is domestic violence, regardless of the gender. OP needs to put a considerable amount of distance between the GF and himself. While he's at it, he should also tell the flying monkeys to mind their own damned business. The (hopefully) STBX needs to take anger management classes and keep this in mind: some guys don't play that shìt. At. All. The next time she pulls a "Joan Crawford" on someone, she could very well end up picking up her missing teeth with broken fingers. That, or standing before her Maker. Jus' sayin'.

Tobias Reaper
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this makes me sick the double standards as he said if it was reversed nobody would say anything but somehow its perfectly fine if it happens to a man. Before anyone comments about how this happens to women all the time I know it does and this by no means lessens that its the double standards that get me.

Sophia Athene
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hi, Tobias, come back and read the comments now. At this exact moment, they all (but three idiots and a few hidden comments) support this man! And none of them engaged in the whataboutism, "But men/women experience abuse too."

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Crep 105
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, no, his friends/family are 100% gaslighting him here. It has all the telltale signs. They're also trying to downplay the abuse, which is an equally massive red flag.

Gale Christensen
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once brought a crowded restaurant to a screeching halt by screaming at a drunk girl for chasing her date into the lobby and hitting him in the back of the head. I was hostess, and I WENT OFF on her. I even had the cooks in the kitchen stop cooking to see WTH was going on. I tore her a new one and when my managers ran over scared to death because I can do a damn good drill instructor impresonation when I need to, and I told them what happend and to call the cops. I wasn't letting her leave. GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD YOU STUPID AH'S!!! Men can be and are victims of domestic violence all the damn time and it is NEVER okay for anyone to hit someone else!! I don't care if he's Dwayne Johnson and she's little orphan Annie!!!

Paul C
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Violence like that is not a one off. It will escalate. What happens if she loses her s**t with a child in later years? I have wanted to strangle some of my at the time current, but now ex partners over the years, but could never consider raising a hand to them. The only time it ever happened to me, I walked away and never spoke to them again. That was easier pre-Internet / mobile phones. It's still the only time I didn't listen to my father's advice to hit someone back if they hit you.

Plant Wizard
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This really depends on the argument and how it was handled by both parties. Everyone here is stating this is physical abuse but what about verbal abuse? We have no context of what the argument was about. Many people are verbally abused and are not able to fight back verbally their brains just don't work that way. For people like this they get angry and frustrated but cannot fight back in the same manner they are being attacked. The only way they can defend themselves is to slap the other person in hopes that it will stop. Verbal abuse is in many cases far worse that physical abuse because it attacks them as a person, it destroys their soul. It can make the person feel worthless and unable to function. Its also not visible. So before you judge someone because they slapped find out what was really going on.

Chris Laney
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A red flag ought to be going up, because if she is going to be violent over something "trivial," as described, what would she do if they are having more serious difficulties? Throw objects? Damage property? And if she is that quick to anger, how would she react to the children?

Melissa anderson
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he slapped her, everyone would be on her side and calling him an abuser who should be in jail. She slapped him and everyone thinks it’s ok and is even laughing about it. Why the blatant hypocrisy? Don’t people have any integrity anymore?

Sophia Athene
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least the vast, vast majority of commenters here agree with you that she's the abuser.

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LaserBrain
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Considering ending things" with someone who slapped you intead of using words? Male or female, that should be the end of things right there. Do you not realise it's only going to get worse if you get married

Ruth Watry
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

10 percent of domestic abusers are women (had a male coworker who lost a tooth, but was too embarrassed to admit that he was a victim). Definitely are reason to break off the relationship.

iseefractals
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Around 40% of domestic abuse violence is perpetrated by women, in 2021 women were responsible for 60% of reported incidences of child abuse. But we almost never hear anything about it, and when we do it's either brushed off, mocked or more often turned around "well, what did YOU do to that poor woman to drive her to do that?!" It's disgusting, and inexcusable. If this is how things are before you're married, it's only going to get worse from there...and no one will care. Unless you, as a man being abused by a woman get to the point of defending yourself....at which point you'll be labeled the abuser.

Brooklyn States
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So she slapped you in the face, she physically assaulted you,. you told her to leave and you're thinking about ending things and everybody is telling you you're overreacting and like you said , if you slapped her in the face and physically assaulted her, and she told you to leave and she was thinking about ending things with you I guarantee nobody would tell her she's overreacting in fact I can guarantee you everybody would tell her to call the police and file assault charges. Her apology does not change anything.. stand your ground here, I'm telling you this, for your sake This relationship has to end.

Gene Perry
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She slapped you. End of story. The only thing she should be hitting is the road!

Skeptie
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hope this guy ran and did not just walked away. I can't tell.you how many DV patients I admitted - men - who'd had the stuffing beat out of them by a wife, or a male partner. It is not okay to hit, or verbally, physically, or emotionally abuse others. Person to person abuse just isn't okay. The masses aren't up to the task of growth and enlightenment. Good God, we're actually looking like we're going to get the Toddler Bully in chief back representing us to the rest of the world. This poor fiancé has way too many gaslighters around him who are dumber thsn a box of hair. I think we might need to realize that civil discourse has been beaten to death by the bully gene, God help us.

deletemyaccount
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't marry a woman who hit me. In my area its always the Mans fault. I had a friend who spent the night in jail after is wife beat him. He tried to restrain her to stop it leaving her wrists red. the cops were required to arrest him even with multiple whitness telling them that he was the victim.

ThisIsMe
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Therapy. Pre-marital counseling. Something. Do not go into this marriage without reviewing what happened with a professional first.

JayWantsACat
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Abuse is abuse but there are significant differences, both literal and figurative, as to why men abusing women is looked at and handled different than women abusing men. OP is correct and should not sweep this under the rug and his friends and family doing so is a huge red flag. But if your argument is purely "wHat iF tHe gEnDeRS wERe rEveRsed" all you're doing is pointing out the obivous while completely ignoring what saying that is an issue. Be better.

AR
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ALWAYS leave if your partner physically attacks you because it will ALWAYS get worse. Gender doesn’t matter.

BK BigFish
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Before we got married, my wife and I got into a fight, she slapped me. Hasn't happened since. We've been married 10 years with 2 kids. Sometimes a slap is just a slap. But yah, go ahead and throw away the relationship over a slap. In fact, since she's obviously an abuser, she should go to jail for life. She should burn in hell for all eternity, too, while we're at it.

Ephemera Image
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well good for you.You got lucky and hse never did it again. Advocating that a slap is just a slap? I mean, WTAF? Is that what you tell your kids? Is that what she does to your kids?

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