"Mind your own business, plate and life and everyone will be happier." *louder for the people in the back!*

Mind your own business, plate and life and everyone will be happier....I need that stitched on a pillow

I am really glad, that (and maybe only alive because) there where people who didn't only mind their own buisnesses and lives when it was time to step up against slaveholders, women discrimination, rascism, rapists, childabusers companies like united fruit and monsanto ruining lives and landslides in SA etc. I really hope, people will realize, that the "lifestyle" of the rich countries is just outsourcing these problems to other countries, that dont have a stable enough government to prevent mayor companies from exploiting their citizens and environment from the cruelty we seem to have mostly overcome for decades if not centuries in the so called "developed" world.

I guess you never saw those videos where animals suffer day by day a horrible life and a horrible death. Yes you can be cruelty free, and that non sense about people be exploit, my goodness every company exploit people in many countries, is the SYSTEM that needs to change, so no more silly excuses be vegan is the way to go.

Came here to say this very thing. I don't mind if you're vegan. Eating plant based diet is very healthy. But for a lot of vegans, it's not about any of this. It's only about some false sense of superiority and blasting it daily from their mouth holes. To be fair, the real committed vegans that I know aren't like this. They recognize that while their diet doesn't kill animals, there is still cruelty in the industries that produced clothes they wear, their electronics etc and they try to help in those areas. They are very live and let live people.

Best quote I've read in a long time! You win the internet today!

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"Mind your own business, plate and life" she instructs everyone in general. What a dumb c**t.

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oh sweetie, stop yer BS. Meat Eaters FORCE their way down EVERYONE'S throat DAILY - have been brainwashing people forever about meat and dairy. And BTW, toots, eating meat/dairy is not only cruel to the billions of animals tortured and killed every year but it is WAYYYYYY worse for the environment, world hunger, and health than veganism is

I think that the worst thing that happened to humans was basing their diet on product that not local, that needs chemicals to go to you, that exploit the land, the people and the enviorenment you don't see and don't understand. I don't say that eating e.g. few exotic fruit a month is a crime, but if everyone just generally focused on local products, including meat, we would not have the problems with carbon, with plastic, with unjustice expoitment. Why? Because you would care that in your area children wouldn't work on farm. You would care that farm are killing forests because you want to go for a weekend somewhere. You would care that animals would be treated respectfully, because you don't want mass production nearby your home. As simple as that. :(

nope 1.5 Billion Cows, here are currently seven billion people alive. do u math ya pleb. and most vegan do act like their better than u, the very judgy. The world's farmers produce enough food to feed 1.5x the global population. That's enough to feed 10 billion (we are at 7.6 billion currently. also thousand of trees are getting planted now and land is protected better (land with forest area) since the fire in australia

Actually the biggest greenhouse gas producing activity is transportation. Flying in a plane and driving a car produces far more greenhouse gasses than farming does- and pastures where cows eat grass actually capture carbon.

Yes this is well said! 👏👏👏

No, no, and no. Most of the facts you quote are wrong. Read or watch "Sacred Cow" for a complete rebuttal to most of what you said.

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I keep thinking that veganism is another fad.. vegans tend to be self-proclaimed know-it-alls who think they're better than everybody else and that their choice not to eat animal products is morally the best. people who can't eat animal proteins because of health reasons are not that prominent and don't cause that much ruckus.

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Veganism is 100 % cruelty free, i mean a vegan world would be 100% free for animals, we have to achieve that goal, we have to go toward perfection, as long we do this we will be ok. As long we are cruel on animals we will always be cruel with each other, it's all part of the same, violence attracts violence.

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Since you never say anything else and you apparently DO feel free to pile your c**p on everyone around you, I’d say you’re being just a tad disingenuous. I would not be able to survive as a vegan. I would literally die. So take your self righteous twaddle and pound sand.

That runs both ways. Both meat and veg production can be done in sustainable ways. Grazing animals are not inherently bad for the environment. In fact, large herds of grazing animals are a critical part of grassland ecosystems. My family raises beef in reasonable quantities on pristine land in Colorado. The cows share a beautiful valley with a large herd of wild elk, and lots of other wild animals. We have been able to reintroduce native grass species. I would say that holistic grazing practices like we are using are better for the environment than any sort of plant production could be, because we do not need to displace any of the animals or insects that would eat vegetable crops. Of course, it is a relatively small-scale operation, but you should not write of livestock production as inherently bad for the environment.

I think the point here was not to say veganism is bad. but rather to put those sanctimonious vegans that look down on everyone who doesn't think like them back in their place. Nothing wrong with being a vegan. i'm not my self ( i do try to buy free range meat and eggs when ever i can, even if i have to pay a little more) but i can respect their choices. It's when they act all "holier than thou" that you start having issues. It's when you get the "being vegan is the perfect way to live". The point of the article is essentially get off your high horse. Veganism is not perfect so stop acting like it is.

Yes is so silly blaming exploitation on veganism, is the system that has to change not veganism. For almost every product in the supermarket, people is exploit. The system has to change. Excuses, excuses to keep a cruel life-style.

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So, because animals consume a lot of crops, you condemn ALL meat eating (which would include hunting for example, which involves killing animals who've usually lived off food they get for themselves, and happens in the wild anyway), but the way agriculture is ruining the land, and allowing much worse working conditions, even if not encouraging, to produce things like quinoa, which let's face it not a single gram of which is going to cows etc, is worth the price? Also, might I add, you can also have a humane meat industry, that provides for demand, the two aren't mutually exclusive, and might I finally add, COMPLETELY cutting out meat because of what the current, extremely bloated, inhumane meat industry is doing, including the meat producers, for example local farmers, who are practicing humane meat production, the same way it's been done for quite a while, in favour of agriculture that has decimated Borneo rainforests, for example, is one of the greatest overreactions I've ever seen

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a step in the right direction? direction of what, a fantasy? people have been living off of animals to survive since our existence......"step in the right direction"

Apparently it’s “bee slavery”. Clearly it was coined by someone who had not the vaguest notion of the social life of bees.

well i guess any subject has the right to debate. but i agree that the author probably never read how disastrous meat eating is on an ecological level

My thought exactly!

Probably because they're in charge of their website and they can do as they please.

Not really hating. Just picking out flaws, and pointing out problems.

Because they also share preachy vegan propaganda (though it's usually in the form of some d******d in the comments), and because free speech exists, and you're allowed to share whatever you want on this site.

What about it? Are the crops to blame? Or the system we have in this world? Think, think hard. You see? Well, no more excuses Go Vegan for your own benefit and the planet benefit too.

Much of that is what is deemed not human consumption worthy. A wast majority of animal feed is in fact soy bean by products.

Exactly

The dairy and egg industries aren't a paradise either. And why do you assume that people who care about animals don't give a damn about people? It's not either/or.

I think the point is that just because something is 'vegan' doesn't mean that it's not having a deleterious impact somewhere in the food chain. The take-home message is that even vegans need to be responsible in the choices that they make, and if we're all going to step as lightly and as kindly as possible on the planet that means that we should minimise our consumption of things like palm oil as much as we do our consumption of feed-lot beef.

Actually it would be a World with a significant overgrazing issue, dooming numerous herbivorous species