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Grabbing coffee to-go, laughing so loud the windows tremble, and keeping your shoes on when walking into someone’s home don’t raise a single American brow. But it’s a whole different story if we are talking non-Americans who moved to the land of the free and are just getting used to things the American way.

So when one Reddit user put up a question “Non-Americans who moved to the US, what are some social customs that have been the hardest for you to get used to?” on r/AskReddit, people who left their native lands had a whole bunch of stuff to comment on.

From showing thumbs up, which is considered rude in foreign countries, to finding potluck dinners super odd, and realizing bidets are off the map, these are some of the most illuminating answers people shared.

#1

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Still blows my mind that healthcare isn't free, and people actually go bankrupt, legitimately bankrupt, from medical bills.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Medical bills are the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US. Google says it's at around 2/3 and rising.

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    #2

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To The work culture! You get so few vacation days and most people didn't use them all for fear of what it looks like. In the UK, if we don't use all our days, HR will normally ask us if everything is okay

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    YupItsMe1234
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being an American that works for a European company I'm still jealous that my employees who sit in Switzerland and Germany get almost double the days off that I do.

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    #3

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Strangers asking you what church you go to. Or the rather competitive nature of religion here. It seems less important to actually believe and more important to let people know how much you believe.

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    WilvanderHeijden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Best part is that you can have your own church, find some gullible people and live like a king on the expense of the poor fools that believe in you and you can even apply for tax exemptions. Being a televangelist is very profitable in the US.

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    #4

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Saying "I'm Irish" but they haven't been to Ireland and neither have their parents.

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    Treessimontrees
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a man where I work who claims he's 7% viking and gets really offended when anyone makes fun of him.

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    #5

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To The pride people have in being unhealthy, ignoring serious symptoms, proudly eating like crap, proudly not exercising. And yet having the most expensive health care system in the world and refusing to accept alternatives. "that's whack man"

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    #6

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To The crazy giant gaps in bathroom stalls. It drives me insane. My partner told me that it's there to prevent people from doing drugs/having sex. But I still don't understand why I need to see everyone while I poop.

    I'm from Israel.

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    #7

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Keeping my shoes on when walking into someone's home. I feel like a barbarian

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    troufaki13
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same here!! I find it so weird in movies that they're in the house with their shoes still on. I'm like, give your feet a break ffs!!

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    #8

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To There is a toot-your-own-horn culture here in my experience that I find hard to deal with, especially in the workplace. It's not usually a typical someone saying they're good at something, it's more about making themselves out to be better and top-dog.

    I'm from the UK and I'd say we are kind of modest.

    Also, writing the date, I just can't get used to writing it with the month first.

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    varwenea
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My logic - YYYY-MM-DD. Using this method, all my files in the same folder are always in the right order even if I edit older ones.

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    #9

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Tipping culture is so alien to me as an Australian. I always over-tipped because I was never sure — some people would react like I'd made their day for what I thought wasn't a big tip. Coincidentally, I forgot to tip a bartender once and I was made to feel like the worst person ever

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    B Dus
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If an employer would pay his employees a decent salary, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm from Europe and only tip when the service or food was beyond expectations.

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    #10

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Pledge of allegiance. There's literally no other country that I've ever been to that does this! This is so strange and I feel so uncomfortable whether or not I do it.

    Using the word "patriotic" in a good way. Seriously, I'd always thought it meant "blindly loving your country and think it's the best", which that definition would fit a lot of Americans better.

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    #11

    Not a social custom, but when i returned from my study abroad in Europe back to the US, I realized how enormous everything is here. The houses, cars, stores, drinks, food portions, and unfortunately many of the people.

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    Joeshar
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Big Gulp: 1Lt of beverage in a cup. And people are drinking it while driving.

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    #12

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Saying "hi how are you?" to strangers and nobody actually answering the question.

    The size of food serving when going out to eat.

    Thanksgiving and black friday.

    And lastly, the fact that every form I have to fill out, they ask my race.

    I guess these are not technically social customs, or maybe they are, but I find all of the above very strange. Ugh, I'll never get used to living here.

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    Tiari
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always wonder about that race thingy. If a person has three Caucasian grandparents and one African-American - are they supposed to check the African-American box? Why? The Caucasian box? Both? These would be logical for me. Or is it depending on their looks? But then, everyone in the family could be different.

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    #13

    The politicization of everything

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    Music Mania
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Drives a lot of people from here nuts too. I can't tell you how many times I've yelled at someone that wearing a mask isn't a political issue.

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    #14

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To That Fahrenheit nonsense. I just never bothered to learn, always converted to Celsius, and then I ended up moving to Canada. I knew it would pay off to never learn.

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    Joeshar
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Feet-Inch-Yard are the worst. The label at the back of the truck says "keep 30 feet distance" your math should be good while driving.

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    #15

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To A friend of mine is Russian. Her parents came to Russia and were still getting used to America. In Russia when you are pulled over by the police you get of the car and walk over to them. Her dad got pulled over and so he got out and started walking towards them. He didn’t know you are supposed to stay in the car. He learned that lesson very quickly.
    He didn’t die they didn’t even shoot at him. He did get arrested though.

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    Pamela24
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "They didn't even shoot at him." - That sounds like that wouldn't be surprising if that happened. That's so scary - if he was not running at them, being aggressive or had a gun on him - why should that be an option?

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    #16

    Sounding like someone cares about you or your answers when they talk, when all they really care is following their scripts, for tip, sales revenue, door sales etc. The tipping culture. Why tell a burger costs $9.99 when with tax you are supposed to pay $11.25 and are supposed to tip at least 20% to not seem like a cheapskate? When the waitstaff works for under $3 a hour... just make it $15 and pay adequately, please

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    Bill
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does one calculate what they pay in sales tax in VAT counntries?

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    #17

    My wife is an immigrant so I'll pass on that she struggled with.
    The way many American families raise their children until age 18, then send them out the door to make it or beak it in the world. In many other countries, you never stop helping your children by paying for more education (Vo-Tech or college/university) and trying to avoid student loans, they always have a place to live free of rent, and are quite involved in everyday life of the parents, even if just by phone.

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    Kisses4Katie
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't imagine not helping my child when he's over 18. I'm his mother. He can be 60 (and I'll be 77 lol) and I'll still help him.

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    #18

    I moved to Minnesota two years ago. At first I thought I would make friends super easy because people where really friendly but I soon learnt that nobody wanted to make friends. I was mistaking people’s inquisitive nature and need to overshare for genuine friendship foundation laying. I’m from the UK and usually if someone asks you for a beer and chat they want to get to know you, here in the US I’m just an interesting story to tell their real friends about. I found this upsetting at first, but I stopped caring and I did actually make a few good friends in the end.

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    Joeshar
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And fake excitements in the chat. "Woow, it's amazing, you're kidding" But most of them are fake and just to make you feel they found your story interesting which will be forgotten couple of minutes later.

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    #19

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To The alcohol laws, in the UK you can drink in private from a very young age as long as you have parental consent and can have one beer/cider/glass of wine in a restaurant as long as you have a meal with it. In America, I tried to hand a pint to my Dad from a bar and the barman started shouting at me telling me to put it down because I wasn’t 21

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    WilvanderHeijden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But you could join the army and "liberate" some country and in the process kill as many people as you want.

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    #20

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To How hard it is to make friends in the USA. It seemed pretty easy from where I came (Europe), but after 20 years in the USA, I still don't have friends here.

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    Louloubelle
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've lived here my entire life, and other than my sister, I have no real friends. Acquaintances, but no friends.

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    #21

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To I still don't know how to get invited to parties, so there's that.

    Also the drug TV ads with the long disclaimers while showing video of happy people living their lives. Really weird.

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    averageperson
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm American, and I always thought those drug ads were hilarious. "Yay, we can help you live your life again, but you may experience nausea, fevers, vomiting, death, etc..."

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    #22

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To I'm from New Zealand.

    Lack of vacation days.

    Weird health system tied to employment.

    Food portions.

    Otherwise it is a pretty easy adjustment.

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    Vorknkx
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some Americans get shocked when I tell them I have nearly 40 paid days off per year... and I end up using them all ;)

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    #23

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Pounds. Ounces. Feet. Miles. I could never get the hang of it.

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    #24

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To That fake condescending voice people use. I'm not a toddler looking for his mama; talk like a normal person.

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    WilvanderHeijden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not only an American problem. In my country it's a way of speaking that a lot of people in the medical profession use. "You may now take off your shirt so I can examine you." I always answer like: "Well thank you, your majesty, should I kneel and bow down to your mighty stethoscope? "

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    #25

    The lack of irony in general. And the way most people take themselves very very seriously. Don’t get me wrong, life is hard (especially in the US), but I’ve met VERY few people in the US who can make fun at their own expense - which is considered the norm where I’m from. Not saying one is better that the other - just the biggest difference for me

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    #26

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Town and school spirit are a very big thing here. No one takes high school sports this seriously back in my old school in India

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    WilvanderHeijden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one takes high school sports this seriously in the entire world. Being a professional cheerleader? Only in the US.

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    #27

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Sales tax not being included in the price (got pretty used to it after 4 years, but it still occasionally caught me off guard).

    Healthcare bills.

    Tailgating on highway (even people complaining about tailgaters were themselves often tailgating).

    Porch sitting, people sitting on their porch and watching passers by.

    Distances (drove coast to coast, I thought it would never end).

    Most men being pretty knowledgable about cars.

    Drive thru ATMs, never stopped being funny to me for some reason.

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    Evil Little Thing
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's weird about porch sitting and knowing about cars? One is relaxing and the other is super helpful.

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    #28

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To People saying they will pray for me. Either in aggression to insult me by saying I need to be prayed for (as sometimes I can be an a-hole or a victim of prejudice). Or, they are trying to be empathetic when told of a sad/unfortunate situation. Of course, I don't ever doubt that they'll remember.

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    #29

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Younger Ppl calling adults by (just) their first name. I'm from the Caribbean so can't help but referring to ppl as Mr or Ms. Even if Im familiar with them.

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    Music Mania
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This just depends on where you are. Where I am everyone is Sir or Ma'am, regardless of age. Calling people you are familiar with by Mr. or Ms. "their name" is up to that person, some people feel it makes them sound older than they want to feel so prefer to be called by just their first name.

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    #30

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To According to my parents, it was people giving them thumbs up.

    In their country of origin, thumbs up = middle finger in the US. So they kept jumping thinking they were being flipped off by random people. Took years for them to get used to it and understand no one was trying to insult them.

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    mntncrone
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When visiting Turkey I had to train myself to give the thumbs up, instead of the OK sign, which they consider offensive. Goes to show you - know the culture you're in, and adapt.

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    #31

    It is impossible to have a conversation about anything not being perfect in this country without people going ‘oh but in China it is so much worse’ ‘oh but it is like that everywhere in the world’, ‘we are the beacon of democratic light’, or similar.

    Most commonly from people who effectively know very little about the rest of the world, and take their own propaganda as knowledge.

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    WilvanderHeijden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't count the times that I was told by Americans that Europeans only have their social welfare system, cheap education and free healthcare because we pay at least 70% of our income on taxes and the government can come any time, day or night, and take all of our belongings away, including house, car and all our savings. The irony is that that's exactly what could happen to US citizens if they need some medical treatment.

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    #32

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Very attentive customer service. It felt almost psychotic.

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    WilvanderHeijden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because they are monitored and can lose their job in the wink of an eye. No matter how insane, unreasonable, aggressive or rude the customer is, they have to be polite and try to solve problems that can't be solved if the customer refuses to cooperate.

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    #33

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To I'm Canadian and the few times I've been to the states it surprised me how many Americans eavesdrop on conversations then insert themselves into it like they were there the whole time.

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    Treessimontrees
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes!! People in the US will also just say random things like "nice shirt" when I walk by. I think they're trying to be nice, but it's just weird.

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    #34

    My first week in the country I went to a house party where I said c*nt casually in conversation. I’m not joking when I say everyone stopped their conversations and stared at me. One girl was properly glaring at me and then told me to apologize to the person I was talking about. Cue my Australian friend starting to piss herself and both of us having to explain to a room full of people that it wasn’t meant offensively.

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    #35

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Not hugging, kissing on cheek, or handshake when saying hi to family. I’m from South America.

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    #36

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To As a woman when I first moved to the US, I felt like there was something wrong with me because I didn’t do my nails, or color my hair, or wear makeup like my friends did. The way I grew up, women who were not celebrities didn’t do stuff like that at that frequency. I felt like maybe I wasn’t feminine enough because those things seemed so tied to femininity.

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    #37

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Being extremely loud and extroverted at all times. Making sure my voice echoes loudly even when talking with someone right next to me. That's the hardest to get used to because I come from a modest place.

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    Eglė Bukauskaitė
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    why sunglasses are blurred? If face is showing through, editors could've just darken it, lol

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    #38

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Carpet everywhere. I thought at first I had that beige, slightly too fluffy standard-issue carpet in my first apartment because it was cheap and in a [crappy] area. Moved to a nicer place, still carpet. Visited relatives who have a really nice 5BR house in the best part of town: the same carpet! Add to that what someone already posted, that people don't take their shoes off, I am still bewildered. And don't get me started on the carpet at high traffic public spaces, like banks, offices, and even /airports/! What. The. Fudge.

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    Daria Z
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow and I thought it's we, Russians, who have carpets everywhere. Not in public places though, that's weird.

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    #39

    Flags everywhere.

    Asking how we're doing rhetorically and being burdened by having to listen to the answer.

    Bragging about working while being sick as a dog

    Bragging about avoiding doctors/medical care

    MLMs

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    WilvanderHeijden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Bragging about working while being sick as a dog." Because not showing up gets you fired. "Bragging about avoiding doctors/medical care." Because they can't afford it.

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    #40

    Billboards with lawyers to hire - everywhere.

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    WilvanderHeijden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once saw a comic about a car crash were the paramedics had to fight their way to the injured through masses of lawyers. I guess some of it must have some truth in it.

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    #41

    That an appetizer is an entree & an entree is a main.

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    ANDREA SERRANO MORALES
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and the actual meal is like a huge plate that i cant even finish, my grandma and my mom went to olive garden and my grandma felt as full as she would ever be with only the soup they give as a complimentary appetizer. she took everything else to go and ate leftovers for like 3-4 days straight

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    #42

    Celebratory gunfire on national holidays anyone?

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    Khadeja
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, the only TRUE American experience is having to try to figure out whether or not that bang you heard at midnight on a Sunday was a firework by some drunk teenagers or a gunshot

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    #43

    If you don't pronounce words exactly like Americans do they just flat out don't understand. My native language is English but I have to pronounce thirty in a very specific way for it not to be interpreted as fifty. In general Americans are very ignorant of phrases from other parts of the world (more so than other countries) and struggle to make the connection unless it's an American phrase.

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    #44

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Talking about the price of gas as a greeting. Just straight up walk to someone with different plates. "Oh hey. You're from Iowa? What's a gallon cost?" "2.044; better than you guys." "Well yeah, it's Cali. You're lucky to find $3.044!" Laughs.

    I'm from Canada and this is like us asking each other about the weather.. It's goddamn fascinating to watch happen.

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    Nicola Roberts
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK weather is the number one small talk topic. If you've got nothing else to say it is always hotter, colder, wetter, drier than normal!

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    #45

    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Everyone waves. Wasn’t sure why. Did they think they knew me? Did they need help?

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    Meyer Weinstock
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A 19th century holdover. If you do not wave, you might be aiming a gun...and that leads to other issues.

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    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To How it's not normal to take the piss out of your friends and even causal acceptances

    dsteere2303 , *Robert* Report

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    Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To They don't have a bidet!!!!! I don't know how all these centuries have washed their asses! I can't live without a bidet, I never realized how essential it was to my life, my hygiene, and my comfort until I arrived in the USA and I realized that they have nowhere to wash their ass !!! Of course, there is the shower but the bidet is a thousand times better

    Catebriela , wikipedia Report

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    Julie C Rose
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    New Zealand is also guilty of this. I mean, I‘d rather have Jacinda’s covid response than a bidet, but the bidet was very convenient.

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    The TV ads claiming to support your arthritis but a side effect is death.

    schantalm Report

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    WilvanderHeijden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Illegal in Europe. We do have ads for over the counter medicines, but that's it.

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