I zzi - the guns are a factor though and we shouldn't demean the fears of black people in the US by pretending they aren't. Charlotte A at the top of these comments has said there are fears of the police shooting them 'by accident' and she isn't alone in saying that. Yes, armed officers can be deployed in the UK but they aren't wandering around with them when dealing with everyday incidents.

More to the point - where the police are not d*cks on a power-trip as soon as they see someone who they think they can get away with bullying... There are good police, but everyone suffers because of the bad ones, and the good ones not reporting the bad ones, are just as a bad for continuing to allow it to happen.

Not even about guns. I live in the UK and had the same rules...although my mum told be never do what your little white friends do as you are not white and they will press charges. Always the first asked when something's gone missing. Always watched in shops, even if we'll dressed and actually there to spend money. Always assume that I do drugs or have drugs...by work colleagues....the list is endless

Please counter the racists downvoting @I zzi below. He/she is sharing their own experiences, albeit in the UK. Racism knows no borders.

Guns should not be used. They are brutal, unnecessary, and often wrongly-used artefacts. In England and other countries who do not have as much access to guns, we usually do things better than places like America and don't shoot our own innocent people. I firmly believe they should be illegal, and everyone should be treated fairly. If I was taught anything at school, it was how to stand up to things that are unfair or you don't believe in, and we were very strong about this when it came to racism. Everyone should be treated fairly, no matter their colour, height, age or whatever. And they still taught this. Even though the school had only one coloured person, of whom was in foundation when I left for high school.

Like over here in England.

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Which is five countries, and in those countries when they feel the need for guns, they send in people who are more like special forces. Soldiers even in police uniforms make poor law offers. And that includes most U.S. police SWAT members.

Yeah, we humans have a tendency to treat others badly for all sorts of reasons.

@Rissie, I believe she meant something along the lines of 'the old continent', but with the third world tendencies the US are displaying with such fervor right now, I really can't find it in me to blame her. Before you begin swearing at me, let me expand. I have heard very well to do people from so-called developing countries state quite a few times that they would never want to live in Europe. And I must say that I understand them. Their standard of living is much higher! In Europe, they would have to go without the chauffeur, the cook, the gardener, the cleaner, the nanny, the housekeeper, etc. The widening income inequality in the US, the lack of comprehensive healthcare, high infant mortality rate (the CIA lists the US in 56th place, after Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Serbia), high maternal mortality ranking (the US ranks 55th, just behind Russia (17 per 100,000) and just ahead of Ukraine (19 per 100,000), Add to that the huge differences in quality of education and access to highe

(2) ...access to higher education, the "food deserts" i.e. the lack of shops selling fresh food ingredients in low income neighbourhoods, and at another parameter, the United States prisoner rate (number of prisoners per 100,000 people) is 737, the highest in the world, followed by Russia at 615. Then you can add Trump's totalitarian tendencies and it truly makes me mad that a country with such resources for a large part chooses to behave like a banana republic while steadfastly claiming that everything is The Best it can possibly be.

You say US is not first world anymore?

I highly recommend reading this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/defund-police/612682/

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First world? What the huck are you talking about?

@Stickman, The answer is yes. Maybe even more so. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/nyregion/nypd-social-distancing-race-coronavirus.html

True question, not a smart a*s one. If he was going into a prominent black area, would these rules still apply?

First world country: "Any country with little political risk and a well functioning democracy, rule of law, capitalist economy, economic stability, and high standard of living." So, you know, Europe.

Judith, the difference is that your sons wouldn't be killed for not following the rules. That could happen to a black person.

"Krivo and Peterson’s analysis of crime data in Columbus, Ohio shows that economic disadvantage, not race, is the strongest predictor of violence in a particular neighborhood. “In fact,” they conclude, “violent crime rates for extremely disadvantaged white neighborhoods are more similar to rates for extremely disadvantaged black areas than to rates for other types of white neighborhoods.” https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2018/05/03/homicide_overtime/

Race and ethnicity in the United States: White: 72.4%; Black or African American: 12.6%; Hispanic and Latino Americans, the largest ethnic minority, 18%

Murder victims: White6,088; Black 7,407; Hispanic or Latino 2,173; Total 14,123. https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender/

Unfunded fear breeds violence. An older white man, commenting somewhere on this post, describes how he was getting beaten up by the police for living in a black neighbourhood in his younger days...

Lies, lies and damn lies. FACT: Black population in the US = 13.4% https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219 FACT: Black people are 2.8 time more likely to be SHOT & KILLED by police than white people. To make matters worse; 14.8% of black people shot and killed by police were unarmed compared to 9.4% of white being unarmed. So you are 1.6 times more likely to be shot and killed as an unarmed black person than a unarmed white person. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/ FACT: It's not about crime as you can see from the image I've post from https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/ Remember, when you lie, you will get called out on it. You should consider that most people can fact check and prove you to be a liar in about 10 minutes. I have one simple question and I would like to tell the truth..... did you lie due to ignorance or racism? Socioecono...33-png.jpg

Really? Can you give a source for this. Death by cop is #5 death reason among African American men. I can't find anything about whites so I'm seriously curious what you're basing this on.

Whataboutism, comrade.

THIS IS EXACLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL MY RACIST MOTHER

Who said that he's a rapist? Or are you just assuming that because he's black? All lives matter, which is why #BlackLivesMatter.

He was contained. He was helpless. He begged for AIR. If you solidarize yourself with rape victims, who felt helpless, and begged, during their rape, how the fudge can you be so cruel and do not see the helplessness of another victim just because it was a black victim, in a similar helpless situation. Do you ask the rape victim what he or she had been wearing? Is it ok to rape because the victim has had a short skirt on? Is it ok to murder someone because the victim might or might not be guilty? Does not even a guilty person have the right on a trial in the developed country you claim to be in? Your opinion is dumb, cruel and uneducated, and i fear for every poc living with people like you, being policed by people like you.